[LOGic] LOGic forum

Tue May 15 01:18:35 EDT 2012

Hank et al.,

Your post begs my original question of a few days ago, which remains 
unanswered -- Is  v8 still being updated / bugfixed? If V9 is basically at 
Alpha level (which is what I would call it, based on your description of its 
architectural evolution, and as such, should not have been released to the 
user base) -- then are known and reported problems in V8, the released 
production version, being addressed, or are we just expected to live with 
them until V9 is ready for its close-up? (Whenever that is?) And we are just 
expected to have faith that the perpetually unfixed V8 bugs are being 
addressed in V9, and will work... someday?

Now, I'm a computer old-timer, and I've always volunteered for Beta programs 
whenever given the chance -- but IMO V9 isn't even really ready for Beta, 
because it is still under active development. A Beta test is expected to 
have a Release Candidate, a version of the entire product that is believed 
to be complete and relatively bug-free based on the results of the Alpha 
stage of testing, but of course is known not to be. The Beta volunteer user 
base (not everyone cottons to the idea of testing imperfect software and 
finding bugs) tests, details, and reports the remaining bugs, and they get 
killed, one at a time and usually in triage fashion, with the highest 
priority bugs addressed first. That's fine. But SUPPORT OF THE RELEASED 
PRODUCTION CODE GOES ON during the Alpha and Beta stages of the next 
version! Otherwise, the end user is left with production code (V8) that used 
to be supported, but that isn't any more due to reassignment of 
development/support resources to the new version in Alpha or Beta test --  
which are known to be (a) incomplete or (b) imperfect vehicles, 
respectively.

If I might be allowed to put it crudely, this situation blows big-time.

Dennis needs to clarify this.

Bill W5WVO

-----Original Message----- 
From: Hank Phillips
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 16:37
To: logic at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic forum

When Microsoft notified the world in 2007 that Visual FoxPro would no longer
be supported, Dennis didn't really have a choice about continuing
development in that language.  Converting everything to .NET is not a
trivial undertaking, so I would recommend that we be patient while that
conversion process continues to take shape.

I purchased Logic9, installed it, and run it side by side with Logic8.
Logic8 continues to be my logger of choice for DXing, while I am waiting for
Logic9 to catch up.  My recommendation is to throw our support behind the
continuing development of Logic9, because it will be on a platform that has
a stated future in the Microsoft world, and just hang tight until the kinks
are worked out.

Vy 73,
Hank
AA4HP

-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of K0DAN
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:21 AM
To: logic at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic forum

I need to throw my $0.02 in too.

I much prefer this email list to the "web based" forum alternative which I
guess is now the official site? Sending/receiving LOGIC-related info is much
easier using an "email approach" than posting on a forum (in my opinion).

I too started with LOGIC 4 and  have not gone beyond LOGIC 8. It meets 99%
of my needs, and yes, has a few quirks, which I live with. I won't go into
them because it's not worth the bother.

But my questions are regarding LOGIC 9...
a) For those of you have gone from V8 to V9, what do you gain? What do you
lose?
b) I have always had trouble when upgrading LOGIC versions, in that the
default databases (especially PREFIX and DXCC tables) do not meet my needs.
In the past I have had to spend a lot of time fixing errors produced by the
upgrades, rebuilding tables to suit my needs, etc. If I were to do a
standard install of LOGIC9, then import my log files, is there a way to
simply COPY my LOGIC8 directories and files on top of the new version? Which
files & directories? What to avoid?

Glad to see there is still some life on this list!

73
dan
k0dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim
Sent: May 13, 2012 08:19 AM
To: logic at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [LOGic] How to post to the LOGic forum

Post your questions here.

Jim

> I'm K1VU and I have been using LOGic since Ver. 3 or 4. That goes back a
> ways.
>
> I really don't like this Forum method of interfacing with Dennis or other
> LOGic users !!!
>
> I've always have issues with LOGic that I could always post to this list
> and get help.
>
> I still have a lot of issues with LOGic9  BUT I  can' to seem to be able
> to make a post to the forum
>
> It seems that I I have lot of questions that are not categorized in the
> Forum and I don't where to post them.
>
> Anyway I played $90 for something that has created more problems that I
> had with LOGic8.
>
> While LOGic9 has a few of the improvements that I always wanted, there are
> more problems created
> than we had with LOGic8.
>
> 73
> Bob, K1VU
>
>
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