[LOGic] ? Logic9

Mel Martin ve2dc at videotron.ca
Mon Mar 23 07:42:20 EDT 2009


I think you have hit on Logic's Achilles' Heel... its less than stellar 
ergonomics. I have gone back to my previous logging program because its 
data entry doesn't require I ever touch the mouse. Much as I like 
Logic... I have always found it clumsy to use. It's not the worst by any 
means... but it could be a lot better. Writelog, for example, has a very 
quick interface. Barely have to look at the screen. I also have had 
problems with the live mouse wheel inadvertently changing fields. The 
accuracy of my logbook data declined while using Logic.

Logic has more features than I need... at this point I would prefer 
Dennis look at streamlining, the user interface.

If you want a good example of the difference in ergonomics, look at how 
the master call lookup works... then compare it to Writelog or DX4Win.


J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW wrote:
>    I guess I've said this a number of times on the reflector, but I think 
> LOGic is due for a major revamping of its architecture, perhaps breaking it 
> into several functional modules. As it currently is, it simply requires too 
> many steps in too many places to accomplish things. Think, for example, 
> about the multiplicity of setup screens between the main menu bar and the 
> data entry window.  Since I've addressed some of the related issues 
> previously, I won't do it again, here, but a restructuring with better 
> ergonomics would be welcome in my shack. I'd also like to see a 
> rules-setting structure for the spot log that was the equal of the one in 
> CommCat. Finally, I'd like to see the program be compatible with a larger 
> range of digital mode software. Of course, if Dennis went to a modular 
> approach as I've suggested, maybe he could create his own digital module...
>    Still, I think LOGic is the best of the programs I've used over the years 
> for its wide set of capabilities with the exception of contesting, for which 
> I like N1MM.
> 73,
> Jeff, K6JW
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "W5GA" <w5ga at arrl.net>
> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
> loggingprogram'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 15:52
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] ? Logic9
> 
> 
>> Had no thought of turning it into a contest program, there's too many good
>> ones out there.  But contest mode does a couple of dumb things, like 
>> losing
>> the call you just typed in depending on what you do next.  If you're
>> contesting VERY casually, it's ok.  If you're at all serious, it's really
>> inadequate...even if you're not serious enough to justify doing the 
>> contest
>> in something like N1MM.
>>
>> Another feature I'd like to see is a user enabled cluster or telnet "spot 
>> on
>> enter", so you don't have to fuss with doing it manually.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of Mel
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:00 PM
>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>> program
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] ? Logic9
>>
>> Dennis would be crazy to try and turn it into a Contest program. There are
>> already good ones out there and they require a LOT of maintenance... Same
>> for Digital modes. An interface with DM780 would be preferred. MixW 
>> already
>> works quite well with it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "W5GA" <w5ga at arrl.net>
>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] ? Logic9
>>
>>
>>> It'd be nice to have a native RTTY and PSK capability.  The contest mode
>>> could use some work, but I guess with N1MM out there it's really moot.
>>>
>>> 73 Doug W5GA
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>> On Behalf Of Mel Martin
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:05 PM
>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>>> program
>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] ? Logic9
>>>
>>> What's the rush? Logic 8 is being continuously updated and has almost
>>> too many features... what's missing? It must be getting hard for Dennis
>>> to think of new things for the software to do...
>>>
>>> Jennifer wrote:
>>>> Logic8 came out in Feb 2006, is Logic9 coming out soon?  Because, it
>>>> has been over three years and one month from Logic8 release date?  Any
>>> idea?
>>>> WA4CVV
>>>> Jennifer
>>>>
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