[LOGic] Frequency in Logbook

[Mel Martin]

 >I'm sure if it made more since Dennis would have changed it a long 
time ago.

I beg to differ. In fact, Dennis has made many many improvements to the 
program based on user feedback. One of the things that I like about 
Dennis is he's flexible and doesn't think he has all the answers... 
unlike my last logging program where the programmer made a few peculiar 
design choices and absolutely refused to change his mind in the face of 
a lot of complaints by users. As a result, the program has rapidly 
diminished in popularity...

In this case, Lloyd, I'm pretty sure that the way Logic handles input 
with the tab key pre-dates Windows because it strongly resembles the 
type of user interaction on the old terminals... ie tab from field to 
field and enter to commit the transaction.

At this point, Logic's quirky input is probably an artifact of it's long 
history.

Lloyd S. Smith wrote:
> Stan:
> First of all Logic is not a good contest logging program and Dennis has 
> never claimed it to be one.  You can use it for one but there are lots 
> of other programs that are better for contests. I for instance use 
> Writelog which is an excellent contest logging program for all modes. 
> After the contest is over I export in ADIF format and import into Logic. 
> There is nothing that even comes close to Logic for everything else it 
> does.  Why don't you give Dennis a call and he will explain to you why 
> the mouse does not enter the radio info when you change fields.  I'm 
> sure if it made more since Dennis would have changed it a long time ago.
> 
> Also all you have to do is enter the call sign in logic and press the 
> tab key for the initial logging and after that you can use your mouse to 
> your hearts content.  Although if you use one of the contest logging 
> forms you will find it a lot easier to tab to the next field that is due 
> rather than taking the extra time to use the mouse.
> 
> 73' Lloyd, NX4W
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan" <k9iuq at verizon.net>
> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] Frequency in Logbook
> 
> 
>>
>>   Unrealistic?  i  think  not,  since that is the way most other logging
>>   programs  work.  The freq and mode in the log should always follow the
>>   radio.
>>
>>   My problem I think, is Logic 8 is "different" from the way it operates
>>   compared  to  other  loggers I have used. It appears I have to use the
>>   tab key. In other loggers I
>>   used  the mouse to jump from field to field. As I found out, this will
>>   not work with Logic as Logic doesn't read the mode and freq unless you
>>   tab key from field to field.
>>   Since  I  hope  to  use Logic 8 in the ARRL CW contest next weekend, I
>>   hope I can re-program myself to use Logic correctly.
>>   Thanks
>>   Stan K9IUQ
>>   Ben N6FM wrote:
>>
>> I would think that the easiest key to press would be the TAB key since it
>> sets into motion callbook lookup, time stamps, etc. My response was to 
>> his
>> statement that sounded like that he expected the frequency entry in 
>> the log
>> to follow the radio window when he stated:
>>
>> " The little rig window is realtime. I can spin my radio's vfo and the 
>> rig
>>
>>
>> control window frequency changes. BUT the freq in the log form does not
>> change. Same with mode change from radio.
>> The log form doesn't catch a mode change or freq change in "real time".
>> At least it doesn't on my setup."
>>
>>
>> I think that kind of change is unrealistic and it has not worked that way
>> since Logic 4 that I know of. Perhaps in an earlier DOS version it might
>> have, but that would be like comparing apples to oranges.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
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