[LOGic] More on remote operation

J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW k6jw at scdxc.org
Mon Dec 1 15:59:43 EST 2008 

   Well...maybe I am being overly cautious. The computer that leaked its 
smoke (you know: if the smoke leaks out, the machine won't work anymore) was 
new and hadn't been running more than a couple of hours when it happened. 
It's true that I've never seen anything like it in any "run-in" computer 
I've used over the past 25 years. Maybe I should reconsider...
   Thanks.
--Jeff, K6JW


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mel Martin" <ve2dc at videotron.ca>
To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:27
Subject: Re: [LOGic] More on remote operation


> Well that's unusual. I have been responsible for literally thousands of 
> computers over the years, always left on, and I have never seen or even 
> heard of one catching fire. I have seen them fail with some pretty funky 
> smells, but never actually catch fire. I know such things can happen... 
> but most of the fires I have heard about are to do with laptops and their 
> batteries. Perhaps you are being overly cautious. A smoke detector coupled 
> to a breaker might be a solution... such things must exist.
>
> Regarding security, my caution stands... when you power up after a long 
> interval your computer is vulnerable. It takes time for all the updates to 
> be done. The biggest risk is OS exploits which need to be patched as soon 
> as fixes are available.
>
> J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW wrote:
>> Hi, Mel!
>>   The simple answer to your question is that I once left a computer 
>> running that suddenly developed a short in the power supply and caught 
>> fire. Fortunately, I was in the house and smelled the smoke before the 
>> fire spread. It's made me a bit nervous about leaving town with a 
>> computer running. Of course, a fire could happen anytime the computer is 
>> running, but it seems to me that the risk would be reduced if it were 
>> only running when I was using it.
>>   Anti-virus updating is automatic, so that's not really an issue. The 
>> UPS is well advised.
>> 73,
>> Jeff, K6JW
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Martin" <ve2dc at videotron.ca>
>> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
>> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:51
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] More on remote operation
>>
>>
>>> Why would you not leave your computer running? This is the proper course 
>>> of action... Shutting down computers on the Internet for a long period 
>>> of time means that when you wake them up their OS patches, virus 
>>> signatures and such are out of date. Modern computers can be configured 
>>> to go into a very low state of activity after a prolonged period of 
>>> activity. I would also strongly recommend a UPS for your computer and 
>>> router.
>>>
>>> Mel, VE2DC
>>>
>>> J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW wrote:
>>>>   Glad someone opened the general topic on the reflector. I'm using 
>>>> TRX-Manager with LOGic8 for rig control with a Mark-V. CW is 
>>>> accomplished via parallel port, and sound/voice via Skype. Digital 
>>>> modes go through a RIGblaster. Remote access is through logmein.com. 
>>>> I've been researching ways to turn on the computer and rig remotely but 
>>>> haven't yet settled on a final scheme. There are several possibilities 
>>>> and commercially available devices to accomplish this. Some work 
>>>> strictly via the internet and some use telephone activation.
>>>>   Once the computer is booted, it can be used via USB porting very 
>>>> easily to trigger relays that will turn on the radio and SteppIR 
>>>> controller. The real question is that of the best way to turn on the 
>>>> computer. Does anyone on the reflector have any recommendations based 
>>>> upon actual experience with the commercially available circuit boards 
>>>> that will do this? I hate to go away and leave everything running for a 
>>>> week or two at a time with no one at home.
>>>> --Jeff, K6JW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>>>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>>>> logging program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 13:23
>>>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, then I would suggest a remote desktop application like VNC from 
>>>>> which
>>>>> you can shutdown ARCP and start TRX, or merely disconnect the ports 
>>>>> from
>>>>> each (they do that) without shutting one down.
>>>>>
>>>>> What specifically do you wish the program to do??
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>>>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:36 PM
>>>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>>>>> logging
>>>>> program
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Ben, I have TRX MGR but unfortunately it doesn't do all that
>>>>> ARCP2000 does, nor all that I need.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> K0DAN
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>>>>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>>>>> logging
>>>>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The TS-2000 only has one serial port. You can't control with two 
>>>>>> programs
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest obtaining TRX-Manager' use that instead of ARCP. It 
>>>>>> has a
>>>>>> great number of features to control the 2000 (since the author owns 
>>>>>> one)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> can be linked to Logic. That way, setting the rig in Logic will cause 
>>>>>> TRX
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> respond. Only one serial port is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>>>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:55 AM
>>>>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>>>>>> logging
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> Subject: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two rigs interfaced to LOGIC:
>>>>>> a) An FT1000MP using a derived USB-Serial port
>>>>>> b) A TS2000 using a "real" serial port
>>>>>> Right now every thing is in the hamshack, local control. All this 
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in the process of remoting the TS2000 via WIFI.
>>>>>> I'm using Kenwood's ARCP2000 control software, which requires a 
>>>>>> serial
>>>>>> port
>>>>>> to interface the rig and PC (this steals the serial port from LOGIC).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need another serial port so the TS2000 can talk to LOGIC while also
>>>>>> talking
>>>>>> to the ARCP2000 software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I searched the LOGIC archives but couldn't find any discussions on 
>>>>>> how to
>>>>>> share serial ports. Or add a USB hub plus more derived USB/Serial 
>>>>>> ports?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions for "best way" to let the rig control software and 
>>>>>> LOGIC
>>>>>> talk to the TS2000 simultaneously? ("Best way" =
>>>>>> cheap/simple/inexpensive/reliable!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tnx
>>>>>> es 73
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> K0DAN
>>>>>>
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