[LOGic] More on remote operation

Mon Dec 1 14:34:30 EST 2008

This is true, but all of the high current stuff is shut down when the
computer is turned off. I really doubt a 5 VDC stanby voltage would cause a
fire, as described by Jeff. 

I will also say that what Jeff experienced in my opinion is very rare, and I
have only seen something like it once in all the years I have worked with
computing hardware.

73

Rich, AJ3G

-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of N6FM Ben
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:21 PM
To: 'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
program'
Subject: RE: [LOGic] More on remote operation

Well, most power supplies are not really turned off if the computer is
merely shut down. You would either have to unplug it or turn off the power
switch on the back (if it even has one). 5v must be available for the on/off
button to work to turn the computer back on. 

-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:12 AM
To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
program
Subject: Re: [LOGic] More on remote operation

Hi, Mel!
   The simple answer to your question is that I once left a computer running

that suddenly developed a short in the power supply and caught fire. 
Fortunately, I was in the house and smelled the smoke before the fire 
spread. It's made me a bit nervous about leaving town with a computer 
running. Of course, a fire could happen anytime the computer is running, but

it seems to me that the risk would be reduced if it were only running when I

was using it.
   Anti-virus updating is automatic, so that's not really an issue. The UPS 
is well advised.
73,
Jeff, K6JW

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mel Martin" <ve2dc at videotron.ca>
To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:51
Subject: Re: [LOGic] More on remote operation

> Why would you not leave your computer running? This is the proper course 
> of action... Shutting down computers on the Internet for a long period of 
> time means that when you wake them up their OS patches, virus signatures 
> and such are out of date. Modern computers can be configured to go into a 
> very low state of activity after a prolonged period of activity. I would 
> also strongly recommend a UPS for your computer and router.
>
> Mel, VE2DC
>
> J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW wrote:
>>   Glad someone opened the general topic on the reflector. I'm using 
>> TRX-Manager with LOGic8 for rig control with a Mark-V. CW is accomplished

>> via parallel port, and sound/voice via Skype. Digital modes go through a 
>> RIGblaster. Remote access is through logmein.com. I've been researching 
>> ways to turn on the computer and rig remotely but haven't yet settled on 
>> a final scheme. There are several possibilities and commercially 
>> available devices to accomplish this. Some work strictly via the internet

>> and some use telephone activation.
>>   Once the computer is booted, it can be used via USB porting very easily

>> to trigger relays that will turn on the radio and SteppIR controller. The

>> real question is that of the best way to turn on the computer. Does 
>> anyone on the reflector have any recommendations based upon actual 
>> experience with the commercially available circuit boards that will do 
>> this? I hate to go away and leave everything running for a week or two at

>> a time with no one at home.
>> --Jeff, K6JW
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging

>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 13:23
>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>
>>
>>> Well, then I would suggest a remote desktop application like VNC from 
>>> which
>>> you can shutdown ARCP and start TRX, or merely disconnect the ports from
>>> each (they do that) without shutting one down.
>>>
>>> What specifically do you wish the program to do??
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:36 PM
>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>>> program
>>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks Ben, I have TRX MGR but unfortunately it doesn't do all that
>>> ARCP2000 does, nor all that I need.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> K0DAN
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>>> logging
>>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:30 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>
>>>
>>>> The TS-2000 only has one serial port. You can't control with two 
>>>> programs
>>>> at
>>>> the same time.
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest obtaining TRX-Manager' use that instead of ARCP. It has

>>>> a
>>>> great number of features to control the 2000 (since the author owns 
>>>> one)
>>>> and
>>>> can be linked to Logic. That way, setting the rig in Logic will cause 
>>>> TRX
>>>> to
>>>> respond. Only one serial port is required.
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:55 AM
>>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>>>> program
>>>> Subject: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>>
>>>> I have two rigs interfaced to LOGIC:
>>>> a) An FT1000MP using a derived USB-Serial port
>>>> b) A TS2000 using a "real" serial port
>>>> Right now every thing is in the hamshack, local control. All this works
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of remoting the TS2000 via WIFI.
>>>> I'm using Kenwood's ARCP2000 control software, which requires a serial
>>>> port
>>>> to interface the rig and PC (this steals the serial port from LOGIC).
>>>>
>>>> Need another serial port so the TS2000 can talk to LOGIC while also
>>>> talking
>>>> to the ARCP2000 software.
>>>>
>>>> I searched the LOGIC archives but couldn't find any discussions on how 
>>>> to
>>>> share serial ports. Or add a USB hub plus more derived USB/Serial 
>>>> ports?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions for "best way" to let the rig control software and 
>>>> LOGIC
>>>> talk to the TS2000 simultaneously? ("Best way" =
>>>> cheap/simple/inexpensive/reliable!)
>>>>
>>>> Tnx
>>>> es 73
>>>> Dan
>>>> K0DAN
>>>>
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