[LOGic] More on remote operation

Mon Dec 1 13:13:23 EST 2008

Hi Jeff...

Ref your power on/off issue, I suppose it depends on the rig. I am in the 
process of remoting a Kenwood TS2000. Its software (ARCP2000) has a power 
on/off function which can be remoted...nice!

In the absence of a rig/software that can support this, I would probably use 
some kind of X10 appliance device on the power line...which has interfaces 
for DTMF over telco, internet server, etc. For years I have used X10 for 
lighting & security control, and it works well. There are plenty of 
peripheral devices you can add for interface, status & control, noise 
filtering, extending range, etc. Visit www.smarthome.com,  www.x10.com, or 
GOOGLE "x10", you'll find tons of stuff.

With my remote base project, I am copying another ham's approach, which uses 
Kenwood's ARCP2000 software. Unlike TRX, the software is pretty much a 
virtual screen of the physical radio. All the functions are up front and 
visible, not buried in menus which may be overlooked or forgotten. As it is, 
the TS2000 has so many bells & whistles, it has a rather steep learning 
curve regardless how it's operated.

The remote layer will be Ultra-VNC, and VOIP via Skype or whatever.

If I add virtual COM ports, I want to have LOGic in there for logging the 
remote radio. LOGic does not need to control the radio, altho it needs to be 
aware of freq/mode. Not sure what conflict the two software apps will have 
on the one radio. Maybe none. Maybe I won't know without trying...unless 
someone one the group has been there & done that?

I've asked the group, so far most replies come back to use TRX...great 
program, I have it, but prefer ARCP2000 for my application.

73
dan
k0dan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.A. Wolf, MD, K6JW" <k6jw at scdxc.org>
To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:38 PM
Subject: [LOGic] More on remote operation

>   Glad someone opened the general topic on the reflector. I'm using 
> TRX-Manager with LOGic8 for rig control with a Mark-V. CW is accomplished 
> via parallel port, and sound/voice via Skype. Digital modes go through a 
> RIGblaster. Remote access is through logmein.com. I've been researching 
> ways to turn on the computer and rig remotely but haven't yet settled on a 
> final scheme. There are several possibilities and commercially available 
> devices to accomplish this. Some work strictly via the internet and some 
> use telephone activation.
>   Once the computer is booted, it can be used via USB porting very easily 
> to trigger relays that will turn on the radio and SteppIR controller. The 
> real question is that of the best way to turn on the computer. Does anyone 
> on the reflector have any recommendations based upon actual experience 
> with the commercially available circuit boards that will do this? I hate 
> to go away and leave everything running for a week or two at a time with 
> no one at home.
> --Jeff, K6JW
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging 
> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 13:23
> Subject: RE: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>
>
>> Well, then I would suggest a remote desktop application like VNC from 
>> which
>> you can shutdown ARCP and start TRX, or merely disconnect the ports from
>> each (they do that) without shutting one down.
>>
>> What specifically do you wish the program to do??
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:36 PM
>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>> program
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>
>> Thanks Ben, I have TRX MGR but unfortunately it doesn't do all that
>> ARCP2000 does, nor all that I need.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Dan
>> K0DAN
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "N6FM Ben" <n6fm at oregonfast.net>
>> To: "'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>> program'" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:30 PM
>> Subject: RE: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>
>>
>>> The TS-2000 only has one serial port. You can't control with two 
>>> programs
>>> at
>>> the same time.
>>>
>>> I would suggest obtaining TRX-Manager' use that instead of ARCP. It has 
>>> a
>>> great number of features to control the 2000 (since the author owns one)
>>> and
>>> can be linked to Logic. That way, setting the rig in Logic will cause 
>>> TRX
>>> to
>>> respond. Only one serial port is required.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>> On Behalf Of K0DAN
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:55 AM
>>> To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging
>>> program
>>> Subject: [LOGic] LOGic - Remote control and port sharing
>>>
>>> I have two rigs interfaced to LOGIC:
>>> a) An FT1000MP using a derived USB-Serial port
>>> b) A TS2000 using a "real" serial port
>>> Right now every thing is in the hamshack, local control. All this works
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> I'm in the process of remoting the TS2000 via WIFI.
>>> I'm using Kenwood's ARCP2000 control software, which requires a serial
>>> port
>>> to interface the rig and PC (this steals the serial port from LOGIC).
>>>
>>> Need another serial port so the TS2000 can talk to LOGIC while also
>>> talking
>>> to the ARCP2000 software.
>>>
>>> I searched the LOGIC archives but couldn't find any discussions on how 
>>> to
>>> share serial ports. Or add a USB hub plus more derived USB/Serial ports?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for "best way" to let the rig control software and LOGIC
>>> talk to the TS2000 simultaneously? ("Best way" =
>>> cheap/simple/inexpensive/reliable!)
>>>
>>> Tnx
>>> es 73
>>> Dan
>>> K0DAN
>>>
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