[LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
Dennis
pdainc at hosenose.com
Thu Dec 20 12:44:34 EST 2007
Hi Dan:
Glad you found a USB adapter to your liking.
Our SSB=>RS232 adapters are $22, and I don't see them going up in
price. We looked at a two-port unit that would cost about the same, but it
did not work with Vista, 64-bit, etc., and even getting it to work on XP was
far from plug-and-play.
Have a great Xmas.
73 & tnx for using LOGic.
Dennis
On 3 Dec 2007 at 19:13, K0DAN wrote:
> Hi Dennis...
>
> Well since I started this thread, several things happened.
>
> a) I found out the USB-serial boxes are not all that cheap (certainly not in
> the $40 range as I'd hoped). But they are available if one needs one.
> b) Serial cards are still available for PC's with PCI bus. These too are not
> as cheap as I'd expected either...I think the prices are rising again, as
> serial becomes more rare. But they are available if one needs one.
> c) My hamshack PC (about 1 year old) has one serial port on the motherboard,
> but no more. It has served me well with Logic, but now, with two rigs, I
> need more I/O.
> d) I decided to order a 2-port PCI serial card from one of my suppliers
> (around $35), as it's the cheapest solution. Have not yet received it, but
> it should let me add at least one more COM port, and if I'm lucky (and it's
> configurable), maybe two more COM ports. It'll do the job...for now.
>
> Interesting how the I/O interfaces seem to grow for ALL devices! It's a hard
> life for programmers, eh?
>
> Tnx es 73
> Dan
> K0DAN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis" <dh at hosenose.com>
> To: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> Cc: <aj4f at comcast.net>; <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>
>
> > Hi Dan:
> >
> > RS-232 will be a while in disappearing. Even "USB" GPS units appear to
> > software as an RS-232 device.
> >
> > I imagine that the next thing that will happen is that some menufacturer
> > will
> > put a USB port on the rig, and ship a driver disk that will set up an
> > RS-232
> > interface in Windows, like GPSs do.
> >
> > Meanwhile, thank God for USBV=>RS232 adapters! However, the last
> > motherboard I got actually had one RS-232 port on it.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> > To: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> > Date sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:35:31 -0600
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> >
> >> Hi Robie...
> >>
> >> Thanks for yur comments. I just sent some more questions to Jack K4WSB,
> >> CC'd
> >> to the reflector, so will not duplicate here. But they all relate to
> >> possible changes in operating habits using LOGIC, concessions, etc., when
> >> the complexity of two rigs is added.
> >>
> >> It's hard to find more than one serial port on a PC anymore...sometimes
> >> no
> >> COM port at all! Soon they will be gone entirely. I only use a laptop
> >> with
> >> LOGIC when running Field Day or other contest scenario, but the laptops
> >> are
> >> notorious for no longer having COM ports. Yours & Jack's suggestion to
> >> use a
> >> USB-derived serial interface sounds like the best future-looking
> >> solution,
> >> even though it's a bit pricey. It's surprising that transceiver mfgrs are
> >> still using a serial bus, when USB, Bluetooth, firewire, and even WIFI
> >> are
> >> available to them. Yes, it costs them money to develop something new,
> >> but......
> >>
> >> I appreciate your (and others') insights into solving my new problem. I
> >> still have to think through antenna, amplifier, and soundcard switching.
> >> New
> >> rig = highclass problems!
> >>
> >> Tnx es 73
> >>
> >> Dan
> >> K0DAN
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
> >> To: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> >>
> >>
> >> > Dan,
> >> >
> >> > Several others have commented already, but here is my bit! With a
> >> > kenwood
> >> > and a yaesu you will need two ports, one for each radio. You can use
> >> > two
> >> > native serial ports on your mother board (assuming you have them!),
> >> > serial
> >> > ports on an expansion board, USB to serial converters etc. I have
> >> > successfully used all of the above at one time or another. I have
> >> > heard
> >> > that some individuals have had problems with serial ports on lap top
> >> > computers. Personally, I have never used Logic on a lap top, so I have
> >> > no
> >> > first hand experience. Currently, I use one native serial port
> >> > connected
> >> > to a CI-V interface for my IC746 and a USB to serial converter
> >> > connected
> >> > to my Elecraft K2. Both work well. My computer is an old generic AMD
> >> > running Windows XP.
> >> >
> >> > I hope this helps!
> >> >
> >> > Robie - AJ4F
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> >> > To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
> >> > logging
> >> > program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> >> > Cc: <aj4f at comcast.net>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:57 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Robie...
> >> >>
> >> >> So is this bottom line that I need a separate serial port for each
> >> >> radio?
> >> >>
> >> >> Barring availability of multiple serial ports on the hamshack PC, do I
> >> >> have
> >> >> an option to look for one of the multi-serial kludge devices and/or
> >> >> USB-to-serial black boxes?
> >> >>
> >> >> Seting up each rig in LOGIC is easy and obvious, altho the interface
> >> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> outside world is a little more mysterious.
> >> >>
> >> >> One rig is a Yaesu, one's and Kenwood.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tnx es 73
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan
> >> >> K0DAN
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
> >> >> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic
> >> >> logging
> >> >> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:56 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Dan,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In a nut shell, you must set up each rig with its own port using the
> >> >>> setup
> >> >>> menu. You will see a seperate "rig" display for each rig in Logic.
> >> >>> You
> >> >>> can select the rig from which Logic will collect data on the Main log
> >> >>> form.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you have multiple ICOM rigs I believe it is possible to use only
> >> >>> one
> >> >>> port and simply specivy different addresses for each rig.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Robie - AJ4F
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> >> >>> To: <logic at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:55 PM
> >> >>> Subject: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>I just added another transceiver to the hamshack and now have two HF
> >> >>>>stations on the air simultaneously. Can't find anything in the HELP
> >> >>>>index
> >> >>>>for setting up two rigs with LOGIC.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> What options do I have in order to connect both to LOGIC?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It'd be preferable to have both rigs simultaneously interfaced with
> >> >>>> LOGIC, but I could live with fast switching between the two rigs
> >> >>>> (but
> >> >>>> prefer not to have to swap cables and change setup menu each time).
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Has this topic been sent to the archives?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Tnx es 73
> >> >>>> Dan
> >> >>>> K0DAN
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