[LOGic] Digital operating with Logic (long)

[ei9es]

Hi Wes

I use Logic and Mixw for the same reason you did so I could paste whole
QSO's into notes and Bio. I have the same problems Logic freezes and won't
allow pasting and needs a computer restart to clear the problem. I also get
the overwriting previous QSO problem. I have never managed to go more than
10 digital QSO's without a problem. 

Sorry I don't have an answer for you but it doesn't seem to be your setup, I
have a modern computer 2.8Ghz P4 with 2GB of RAM and still get the problems.
Incidentally since Mixw started to support Winkey I use it for CW integrated
to Logic and have never had a problem I cut and paste the received CW into
notes and Bio with out any trouble using four or five times the TX power
than digital modes.

73

Peter
EI9ES  

-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Wesley Cosand
Sent: 13 May 2005 02:00
To: Logic email reflector
Subject: [LOGic] Digital operating with Logic (long)


I have used Logic for my logging for at least 15 years primarily because  I
want to be able to take extensive notes during a QSO and then to have them
immediately available during the next QSO with the same station. I find that
necessary to be able to really get to know the other party over time.  So I
make a lot of use of both the Bio and the Notes field.  I do a lot of
digital operating and I often cut paragraphs from the received text and
paste it into the logging program.



But digital operating is simpler with other packages that integrate digital
mode software with a logging program.  So every few years I go on a campaign
to see what else is available.  This week I spent hours working with the
DXLabs / DXKeeper package but I finally decided that it  would not meet my
needs.  (I never did figure out how to export Logics Bio field.)



I would be very interested in how other hams use Logic for RTTY operating.
For years I kept Logic plus digital operating software open on my computer
at the same time.  In the DOS days, I think I may have used two computers
simultaneously for Logic and AEA PK-RATT.  I eventually spent money for a
HAL ST-8000 but because it speaks Baudot to the COM port I plugged it into
my PK-232 as an external modem.  Then I had to plug the
PK-232 into the COM port and I communicated with the PK-232 using the Logic
terminal facility.  But operating the PK-232 in the dumb terminal mode was
"clunky" even with a third party keyboard macro program like Keyboard 
Express.   Eventually Hal brought out a Windows RTTY software package that 
spoke Baudot to the hardware (like Writelog also does) so I removed the
PK-232 from  the system and once again had Logic and my digital system
entirely separate.



But when Dennis introduced the Hamscope interface to Logic, I was seduced by
the ease with which I could enter the other stations call, etc, into the log
from the incoming text.  The only problem was that the entire installation
was problematical.  Software would freeze at the most inopportune times.  I
thought that the Logic / MixW installation might be more robust and as MixW
became more popular I felt that any bugs in the software would be rapidly
fixed.  That was a couple years ago and I still have problems.  I have tried
the configuration with the radio and rotor interfaced to Logic, then moved
them to MixW, and recently I have moved them back to Logic.  But although
software components continue to freeze up at times, the biggest problem I
experience is with MixW overwriting logging entries in Logic.  On Saturday
morning I often work a string of European RTTY stations and I often spend
almost as much time going back and repairing the Logic log from the MixW
receive text file as I did making the contacts.  I am certain these are
largely attributable to operator error but suffice it to say the
installation gets very complicated.



I usually have good computer equipment so I am not limited by hardware.  I
am using USB to COM converters that seem to work well.  I am surprised how
many CPU cycles are consumed each time Logic reads data from the Orion so I
usually have it update only once every 10 seconds.  I usually have
Microsofts Encarta Atlas open since I consider it an extremely valuable ham
tool.  And I may also have IE open to the QRZ site and the Logic telnet and
spot collector tools running on dual monitors.  But I am using only a fairly
modest fraction of the computers resources.



So folks, how are you setting up Logic for digital operations?  What have
you found to be an effective software environment?  After many years I dont
have a satisfactory solution.  After 15 years I am back to running both
Logic and MixW without the interconnection and manually typing all of the
information into Logic.  That is where started years ago in DOS except now
there is only one keyboard!

Wes, WZ7I



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