[Logic] Logic 7 and Win XP

Mel mel.martin at axare.mail.net
Sun Jan 2 08:15:37 EST 2005 

>let someone do it who know what is going on in here.

Geez... Who does... I'm a professional, more or less, and I'm often confused
by Windows, just less so than the average Joe... (An "expert" is someone who
knows slightly more than the person he's trying to help ;-) Worked with Unix
and minicomputers for years where I knew where I stood... But Windows is
confusing. It's made to be "easy" to set up. As a result, you can install XP
with just about zero knowledge, but when you have an issue and want to
"understand" what's going on, is almost impossible because the user
interface hides too much of the underlying workings of the OS. As a result,
the only people who actually understand this stuff are specialists... And I
don't mean those who have a few MS certifications under their belts... I
mean those who really spend a LOT of time learning the ins and outs of the
Windows OSes. Your point is well taken in a secure environment, but on the
typical home computer, the best way to learn about an OS is to play around
some. There is a lot of help on some websites dedicated to XP. I really need
to do a bit more messin' with the home computer... The importance of good
backups, however, cannot be overstated!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rich Kelly
> Sent: January 2, 2005 07:27
> To: 'LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of 
> LOGic logging program.'
> Subject: RE: [Logic] Logic 7 and Win XP
> 
> 
> Running Logic under the "administrative" login would be the easiest.
> 
>  To set folder permissions you would need to right-click on 
> the folder that you want to set the access level for. 
> 
> Then click properties, this will show you a "security" tab 
> (providing you are using win xp pro and have "simple file 
> sharing" turned off). 
> 
> >From this tab you can set the access level to this folder 
> for all users 
> >of
> the computer. You must be logged in as an administrator to do this.
> 
> If this is not enough info for you to get the job 
> done....then maybe you shouldn't be "messing" with this 
> security stuff and let someone do it who know what is going 
> on in here.
> 
> No offense intended.....
> 
> Rich Kelly - KB9RNO
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Lee Lorentz
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:34 PM
> To: mel.martin at axare.mail.net; LOGic is open to all radio 
> amateurs for discussion of LOGic logging program.
> Subject: RE: [Logic] Logic 7 and Win XP
> 
> I am the only "Admin"-level user logging in to my XP box, so 
> if it's easiest to just run Logic as the privileged user, 
> then it can be done.
> 
> It sounds like something Dennis might want to address in the 
> help system or the web site under "XP hints".
> 
> You're the second list member to suggest granting full access 
> to the Logic directory tree, but no one has yet mentioned how 
> this is done. 
> I've tried the XP on line help, but didn't find anything 
> useful.  Just one note about dragging the stuff to be shared 
> over to a shared directory, but that doesn't seem appropriate 
> for a program with it's own directory structure.
> 
> On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 17:23, Mel wrote:
> > Has anyone set up logic for use by a non-admin user?
> > 
> > Be aware that setting up what you require might involve 
> more than just 
> > setting directory permissions... I haven't tried here, as the home
> computer
> > is not particularly secure... Much home targeted software, such as 
> > games, require admin privilege to install/run so I have admin 
> > privilege.
> > 
> > To set up access to the shortcut by any user... as the admin user 
> > where
> you
> > installed the program, open "all users" on the right click of the 
> > start button and move the menu shortcut to the appropriate place... 
> > Then grant full access permissions on the Logic directory 
> tree to all. 
> > Hopefully this is all that will be necessary. Restricting 
> permissions 
> > to read only on any part of the Logic directory tree where 
> files must 
> > be opened is probably going to fail. Typically files are opened 
> > read/write, even if you do not plan to write to them (unless Dennis 
> > has gone to the extra to allow for read-only access). As a 
> result, the 
> > attempt to open the file will fail if inadequate permissions are 
> > granted.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > > [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lee Lorentz
> > > Sent: January 1, 2005 17:52
> > > To: LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of 
> > > LOGic logging program.
> > > Subject: RE: [Logic] Logic 7 and Win XP
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Would you mind giving some hint on how to do this?  I don't
> > > find anything useful in the Windows online help.
> > > 
> > > The configuration is as follows.  Windows XP Pro with SP2
> > > installed. The hard drive is set up with 2 partitions; C: is 
> > > reserved for Windoze and all the junk that Win insists MUST 
> > > be installed in the Windows directory, while d: has a 
> > > d:\apps\ (among others) directory.  Logic 7 is installed in 
> > > the d:\apps\logic7\.
> > > 
> > > I have a workgroup configured, and I want any user on the XP
> > > box to be able to use Logic (I don't care about other users 
> > > in the workgroup). 
> > > What do I need to do?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 07:28, Rich Kelly wrote:
> > > > Why don't you just give that limited user "Full" access to
> > > the Logic
> > > > folder. That may resolve some of the access permission problems 
> > > > you
> > > > are experiencing.
> > > > 
> > > > Rich Kelly - KB9RNO
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > > > [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > > > On Behalf Of Lee Lorentz
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 11:40 PM
> > > > To: logic at mailman.qth.net
> > > > Subject: [Logic] Logic 7 and Win XP
> > > > 
> > > > I just installed Logic 7 as a "privileged" user ("regular"
> > > users don't
> > > > seem to be able to install software).  Seemed to work fine
> > > under that
> > > > account.
> > > > 
> > > > Following the install, I switched back to my regular 
> user and the
> > > > first oddity I noted was that Logic did not appear on the 
> > > Start menu.
> > > > I went through the process of adding it, then encountered an 
> > > > error:
> > > > 
> > > > Error 111 "Cannot update the cursor LOG, since it is
> > > read-only," has
> > > > occurred in program DATAFORM.ADD_REC, line 62.
> > > > 
> > > > when I first tried to add a logged contact.
> > > > 
> > > > Do I need to un-install, then re-install as my "normal" user?  I
> > > > didn't find anything about special instructions for Windows 
> > > XP users
> > > > in the included manual, on-line help, or the web site.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Lee Lorentz, WB0TRA
> > > > Annandale, MN, USA
> > > > 
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