[Logic] Another problem with F6

Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:15:15 -0400

I agree with everything you said. I used EQF Logs for 6 year. I also 
switched to Logic because of
some of the features. EQF is very easy to use ,but I guess you can't 
have you cake........

Mel wrote:

>Actually I use Writelog for contesting... 
>
>Trouble is... I honestly find Logic the clumsiest program I've used to
>date for straightforward entry of QSO's as I operate... Which I consider
>to be a shame, because it has so many very nice features, and I'm sure
>the entry process could easily be optimized. The other programs I have
>used extensively are CT and Writelog (for contesting only) and Log-EQF,
>Win-EQF, DX4Win and DXLab.
>
>A logging program, even for everyday logging, should be very natural to
>use as you make contacts... With Logic, I'm fighting with it all the
>time... Which is particularly distracting if you are trying to copy CW
>and battle Logic simultaneously. Now, I'm sure some of this is just a
>matter of getting used to Logic's eccentricities, but overall the entry
>of QSO's as you operate could be improved a lot. It's quite likely that
>this is a result of Logic's fairly long history... It started as a DOS
>program, and has evolved thru a few Window's versions now. Sometimes
>things can get a bit "untidy" from trying to maintain backward keystroke
>compatibility from version to version... 
>
>As things stand, I might switch back to DX4Win... However, I would
>really miss some of the Logic features... So I'm really hoping Dennis
>takes a fresh look at the entry process...
>
>Cheers & Beers...
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected] 
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carl Smidt
>>Sent: September 21, 2003 11:15
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Logic] Another problem with F6
>>
>>
>>I have been reading along and following the ideas in this 
>>thread, all good and sound and very interesting.
>>
>>However, it should not be forgotten that LOGic is a general 
>>logging program, albeit, also a contesting program, but only 
>>for the casual contester, most serious contesters would 
>>insist on CT. I don't really know if it would be a good idea 
>>to try and turn this excellent general logging program into 
>>something that it is not and, perhaps, should not be.
>>
>>Just my casual thoughts.
>>
>>73,   Carl   VE9OV
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Cc: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:59 AM
>>Subject: [Logic] Another problem with F6
>>
>>
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>>>When pressing F6 to set the start time of a QSO... If 
>>>      
>>>
>>"replaces" the 
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>>>RST sent/received with 599/599 regardless of what you have 
>>>      
>>>
>>type in...
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>>>It doesn't really make sense to "preset" RST Rcvd... But typically 
>>>while waiting to work a station I will enter RST sent... 
>>>      
>>>
>>Actually "RST 
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>>>to be sent" ;-)
>>>
>>>This touches on the whole QSO entry process... So allow we 
>>>      
>>>
>>to offer an 
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>>>opinion from one who hasn't used Logic for long... But has designed 
>>>programs for a long time...
>>>
>>>The objective when entering QSO's is to make it as simple as 
>>>possible... With as few keystrokes as possible... And using 
>>>      
>>>
>>ONE hand 
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>>>as much as possible... The other one is on the key or dial...
>>>
>>>We should not have use the mouse... We should not have to use 
>>>keystrokes like Cntl-N
>>>
>>>I would suggest something along the lines of:
>>>
>>>You see something Interesting...
>>>
>>>F5 --- grabs the current spot
>>>This will load callsign to the log and set rig frequency, mode, AND 
>>>WIDTH... Presently on some Icoms it puts the rig in CW wide mode... 
>>>Not good...
>>>
>>>The DX responds...
>>>F6 --- sets the Start time... Doesn't clobber anything you have 
>>>entered or corrected...
>>>
>>>Done...
>>>F7 saves
>>>
>>>Either New QSO...
>>>F8
>>>
>>>Or go back to frequency before jumping on spot
>>>F9 or something... Doesn't matter here... Not in a hurry any more...
>>>
>>>Another mouse avoiding suggestion...
>>>Shortcut keys to jump to for RST / Name / Qth would also be 
>>>      
>>>
>>handy... 
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>>>Ie shift-ctl-R RST received, shift-ctl-N Name, shift-ctl-Q 
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>>>
>>or maybe a 
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>>>simple 2 sequential keys... F12 = go to... F12 then R 
>>>      
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>>RST... F12 then 
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>>>N Name... Etc...
>>>
>>>Mel...
>>>VE2DC
>>>
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