[Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log

Mel [email protected]
Mon, 8 Sep 2003 07:21:42 -0400


Actually... I know how to spell "until" also... But I make the same
mistake so often when typing... I wonder what is actually happening
mentally... There are a few other weird spellings that seem to crop up
only when I type quickly... And they aren't "mechanical"...

Actually... I wrote code for a living for about 20 years... But being a
programmer doesn't necessarily qualify us to decide what is a bug in a
user interface... It may actually introduce bias... However I believe no
user-friendly program should ever do something counter-intuitive.

BTW, if you do a save (which is what you would expect F6 to do)... Excel
WILL save the changes in progress in the current cell.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Hatheway
> Sent: September 7, 2003 21:25
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> 
> 
> I think that there is a difference between one's ability to 
> type rapidly and one's ability to spell. I know perfectly 
> well how to spell "until" and most other words for that matter.
> 
> However I think that there is room for disagreement on 
> whether what you refer to a "bug" really is or is not. I 
> disagree that it is and after having written enough code in 
> my lifetime I think I have some grounds on which to speak.
> 
> Excel, Lotus, etc all work the same way. The contents of the 
> field are not stored until you leave the cell. Logic works 
> the same way. If you refresh the form, data not stored will 
> be cleared.
> 
> Ben
> N6FM
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 16:51
> Subject: RE: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> 
> 
> > When you press F6 one would expect to post any typed 
> data... And I'm 
> > glad to see I'm not the only one who can't spell "until"... 
> I've made 
> > that exact mistake a thousand times... Thank God for spell checkers 
> > ;-)
> >
> > > the field untill you tell it that it is
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Ben Hatheway
> > Sent: September 7, 2003 19:05
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure that is a bug.  If you think about it, the data is not 
> > really "entered" into the field untill you tell it that it 
> is. This is 
> > done by means of tab, arrow, enter, whatever. F6 refreshes 
> but retains 
> > data that it knows has been entered in by means described above.
> >
> > Ben
> > N6FM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dwight Butler" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 15:11
> > Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> >
> >
> > > I have been aware of the same problem here. I wish this was 
> > > fixed....
> > >
> > > Ben Hatheway wrote:
> > >
> > > >Did you tab out of the comments field before pressing 
> F6?? I just 
> > > >tested
> > it
> > > >and, if your cursor is in a field into which you have 
> just entered 
> > > >data,
> > and
> > > >you have not tabbed out, that field will clear upon pressing F-6.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:49
> > > >Subject: RE: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>I stand partially corrected...
> > > >>
> > > >>It's just the Comments field that gets clobbered...
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [email protected] 
> > > >>[mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >>On Behalf Of Bill VanAlstyne
> > > >>Sent: September 7, 2003 10:35
> > > >>To: [email protected]
> > > >>Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> > > >>To: <[email protected]>
> > > >>Sent: 07 September, 2003 7:47 AM
> > > >>Subject: RE: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>There is an issue with doing it this way which I plan 
> to discuss 
> > > >>>with Dennis... If you hit F6, it undoes any changes 
> you have made 
> > > >>>to name/QTH/Comment... It shouldn't do this in my opinion...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>Mel,
> > > >>
> > > >>Don't know what build of LOGic 6 you are using, but my version
> > > >>(6.0.162) doesn't behave that way. It updates only the 
> date/time 
> > > >>stamp. I've tried altering all kinds of things from the 
> > > >>pre-filled-by-QRZ fields, and they all stay put except 
> date/time 
> > > >>when I hit F6.
> > > >>
> > > >>I wonder if this is a bug fix that you don't have, or if it is 
> > > >>some kind of setup option that we have set differently?
> > > >>
> > > >>Bill / W5WVO
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>That's the time I use for QSLing.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>From: [email protected] 
> > > >>>[mailto:[email protected]]
> > > >>>On Behalf Of Frank Ayers
> > > >>>Sent: September 6, 2003 19:49
> > > >>>To: [email protected]
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Hi
> > > >>>I use LOGic 5 and I'm not sure which one you're using, 
> but I set 
> > > >>>the log to have "automatically log time off". I can type in a 
> > > >>>call and get
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>all the lookup stuff, but it logs the time off when I 
> hit enter. 
> > > >>>That's the time I use for QSLing.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Frank
> > > >>>W2FCA
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>In the case of 2), let's say there's a pile-up on him, and 
> > > >>>>working
> >
> > > >>>>him
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>takes
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>some time. After about twenty minutes of trying, I 
> get through 
> > > >>>>and
> >
> > > >>>>score
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>the
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>QSO. But the time stamp in my log is twenty minutes ago. If I 
> > > >>>>remember
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>in
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>the
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>heat of the action, I go into the log and correct the time 
> > > >>>>field, but
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>sometimes
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>I forget. Bad news for QSLing!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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