[Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log

Sun, 7 Sep 2003 15:34:29 -0600

Mel,

OK, I've investigated this further myself. Here's what is really happening, as
best I can determine:

If you type into ANY field and leave the field "open" by leaving the cursor at
the end of the entry, pressing F6 will cause the contents of that field to
revert to the last recorded state of the field. This could be blank, or it could
be something else.

As an example pf "something else," suppose I type "EAST PODUNK" into the QTH
field, then move the cursor to a different field, then come back to the QTH
field and correct the entry to "WEST PODUNK". While the cursor is still at the
end of this line, I press F6. The QTH field will revert to "EAST PODUNK", rather
than to blank.

Basically, pressing F6 appears to force the entry form to reflect whatever has
been recorded thus far in the "soft" record, and also updates the date/time
stamp. This is all presumably in a structured array in RAM; I'm using here the
term "soft" record to differentiate the record as it exists in RAM while it's
being built, from the record as it will exist on the hard disk once it is saved.

To work around this behavior, you can simply make sure that you don't leave the
cursor at the end of an entry in a field that you have manually changed, since
you really haven't written anything to the "soft" record until you move to the
next entry field. Pressing the TAB key works, as does mouse-clicking anywhere
away from the field in question.

Obviously I'm not privy to the source code, but I have a a bit of professional
experience debugging software under development, and this entails figuring out
what the programmer might have done that could cause the behavior in question.
(Sometimes you even get it right!) Often what you're seeing is not a bug per se,
but rather a conscious design choice that perhaps has usability consequences the
programmer didn't think of.

Hope I got this right -- :-)
Bill / W5WVO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: 07 September, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log

> I stand partially corrected...
>
> It's just the Comments field that gets clobbered...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Bill VanAlstyne
> Sent: September 7, 2003 10:35
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: 07 September, 2003 7:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
>
>
> > There is an issue with doing it this way which I plan to discuss with
> > Dennis... If you hit F6, it undoes any changes you have made to
> > name/QTH/Comment... It shouldn't do this in my opinion...
>
> Mel,
>
> Don't know what build of LOGic 6 you are using, but my version (6.0.162)
> doesn't behave that way. It updates only the date/time stamp. I've tried
> altering all kinds of things from the pre-filled-by-QRZ fields, and they
> all stay put except date/time when I hit F6.
>
> I wonder if this is a bug fix that you don't have, or if it is some kind
> of setup option that we have set differently?
>
> Bill / W5WVO
>
> >
> > >That's the time I use for QSLing.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Frank Ayers
> > Sent: September 6, 2003 19:49
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Logic] How to best use QRZ lookup and Log
> >
> >
> > Hi
> > I use LOGic 5 and I'm not sure which one you're using, but I set the
> > log to have "automatically log time off". I can type in a call and get
>
> > all the lookup stuff, but it logs the time off when I hit enter.
> > That's the time I use for QSLing.
> >
> > Frank
> > W2FCA
> >
> > > In the case of 2), let's say there's a pile-up on him, and working
> > > him
> > takes
> > > some time. After about twenty minutes of trying, I get through and
> > > score
> > the
> > > QSO. But the time stamp in my log is twenty minutes ago. If I
> > > remember
> >
> > > in
> > the
> > > heat of the action, I go into the log and correct the time field,
> > > but
> > sometimes
> > > I forget. Bad news for QSLing!
> > >
> >
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