[Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter

Mel Martin [email protected]
Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:10:13 -0500 

Baud rate... obvious...
Address... that is the hex address that the radio will respond to...
Tranceive... if on, the radio emits data anytime frequency or mode is
changed, and it reponds to "broadcast" commands as well as those that are
addressed to it's address... see above
731... the radio works in 731/735 compatability mode... frequency data is
shorter by one byte, but frequencies can only go to 99.999 MHz...

This is the same as always, so 2 radios on the same bus should follow
one-another around if transceive mode is enabled on both...

You don't even need a level convertor... just connect the remote jacks
together and they should be slaved together...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julio Peralta" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:39
Subject: Re: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter


> The PRO's both I & II have 4 menu selections:
>
> CI-V Baud Rate     300-19200 and Auto
> CI-V Address        Rotation of the dial gives selections From 01h to 7Fh
> (what ever that means Hi HI)
> CI-V Transceive    ON/OFF
> CI-V with IC-731   ON/OFF This apparently changed the data rate to 4 bits
> for transceive with older Icom radios
>
> What radios are you using?
>
> Julio, W4HY
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mel Martin" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter
>
>
> > And they are both connected to the same CI-V bus? That's VERY
> interesting...
> > with the older radios, they definitely did follow each other... that is
> why
> > the setting is called "transceive"...  I wonder if there are some
> additional
> > settings in the newer rigs... I suppose it would be possible to program
> the
> > interface to ignore "broadcast" packets... I guess I'll have to trade in
> one
> > of my "classics" to find out...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Julio Peralta" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 08:59
> > Subject: Re: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter
> >
> >
> > > I just checked my rigs and both are set to CI-V Transceive ON.
Spinning
> > the
> > > knob on one does not effect the other nor does changing bands or
> anything
> > > else for that matter.
> > >
> > > Julio, W4HY
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:09 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter
> > >
> > >
> > > > What if you spin the dial on one radio... The other SHOULD follow if
> the
> > > > transceive mode is set for both...
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julio Peralta
> > > > > Sent: October 28, 2003 07:32
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My rig's don't follow each other around, and respond to
> > > > > Logic6 control depending which is selected.
> > > > >
> > > > > Julio, W4HY
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Mel" <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:36 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level Converter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > But if you tune the 706 or 756, don't the radios follow each
other
> > > > > > around? This is not always what you want...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert T.
> Devine
> > > > > > > Sent: October 27, 2003 22:34
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level
> Converter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just used a y adapter with the W1GEE interface and it
> > > > > worked with
> > > > > > > the 706 and 756.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob  KC6AWX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bradford J.
> > > > > > > Williams - N8GLS
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:09 PM
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level
> Converter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Mel,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is exactly the problem, the Icoms are not being
> > > > > polled by LOGic
> > > > > > > unless both have "CI-V Transceive" enabled.  Not a problem
when
> I
> > > > > > > only had the 746, now its a problem with both the 746 and the
> 756
> > > > > > > when using one CT-17 converter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Julio suggested setting the baud rate differently on one,
> > > > > will let
> > > > > > > you all know if that works.  If not, guess I'll either
> > > > > get the W1GEE
> > > > > > > interface or just wait for the final fix from Dennis.
> > > > > Speaking of
> > > > > > > Dennis, anyone have news on LOGic 7 ??
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks all (Julio, Darrell, and Mel) !!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 73 de Brad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On
> > > > > > > Behalf Of Mel
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 27 October, 2003 9:28 PM
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level
> Converter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This isn't addressing the problem he's reporting Darrell.
> > > > > His radios
> > > > > > > are working fine... He wants the radios not to track each
> > > > > other...
> > > > > > > But they will by Icom design if they are able to talk to
> > > > > each other
> > > > > > > and cover the same modes/frequencies. It's a limitation in the
> > > > > > > present Icom driver which relies on setting the
> > > > > "transceive" mode in
> > > > > > > the CI-V interface, unless there are some new options in the
> very
> > > > > > > latest Icom radios' firmware that I'm unaware of.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of AB2E Darrell
> > > > > > > > Sent: October 27, 2003 21:10
> > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level
> > > > > Converter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Brad,
> > > > > > > > You need to change the default software address on one of
> > > > > > > the radios.
> > > > > > > > I keep my 756ProII set on 5ch (in Logic it is just 5c)
because
> > > > > > > > that's what CT likes. You can set it in Logic to any
> > > > > address you
> > > > > > > > like (you can override the
> > > > > > > > default). It appears logic uses a setting of 56 for IC746.
> > > > > > > > Try this setting,
> > > > > > > > and make sure the CI-V address setting on your rigs matches.
> > > > > > > > As I recall,
> > > > > > > > these are not the default setting on the rigs from the
> factory.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ALso make sure your baud rate settings are the same in
> > > > > > > Logic for each
> > > > > > > > radio as in the menu on each rig. If the rig baud rate is
> > > > > > > > different than the one in Logic, it will not talk.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Email me privately if you need more help.
> > > > > > > > 73 Darrell AB2E
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >From: "Bradford J. Williams - N8GLS" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > >To: "LOGic Reflector" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:58 PM
> > > > > > > > >Subject: [Logic] Multiple Icom Rigs and CT-17 Level
Converter
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Group,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I now have two Icom rigs interfaced to LOGic through a
> > > > > > > > single Icom
> > > > > > > > > > CT-17 Level Converter.  Problem is that the frequency
> > > > > > > display in
> > > > > > > > > > LOGic will
> > > > > > > > >not
> > > > > > > > > > track either Icom radio in real time UNLESS I have CI-V
> > > > > > > Transceive
> > > > > > > > >enabled
> > > > > > > > > > on both radios (of course, with CI-V enabled, the radios
> > > > > > > > track each
> > > > > > > > >other
> > > > > > > > >as
> > > > > > > > > > they should and display in real time in LOGic), BUT, I'm
> > > > > > > > not using
> > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > >as
> > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > separate radios in "transceive" mode, just two
> > > > > > > independent radios.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is there a bug in the Icom driver for LOGic that
> > > > > prevents the
> > > > > > > > > > frequency
> > > > > > > > >from
> > > > > > > > > > tracking in real time (knob spinning) unless CI-V
> > > > > transceive
> > > > > > > > > > is enabled
> > > > > > > > >on
> > > > > > > > > > the radio(s)??
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > RIgs are IC-756Pro II and IC-746Pro, LOGic is v6.0.617.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 73 de N8GLS, Brad
> > > > > > > > > >
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