[Laser] AM versus PAM
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Wed Feb 22 20:11:33 EST 2006
Yves
Thank you for responding to my questions.
I have considered a system using frequency modulation of a pulse stream. It
would seem to have a lot of potential, but I have not found a practical
circuit for me to build - transmit or receive. The suggestion of 10 KHz pulse
rate seems to require very sharp filtering of the voice input, so I would
probably try 20 - 30 KHz. I will keep it in mind for the future.
I am not familiar with a boxcar averager. Can you describe what it does and
what sort of circuit is needed?
I understand ( at least a little bit ) that the more bandwidth that my
receiver has, the more noise I will get in. I do not see how that will help me
choose the modulation technique ( given choice of AM, PAM, or PWM ) for a set
power output at the transmitter. I am using a Ramsey receiver for now (
basically a phototransistor followed by a 300 to 6000 Hz bandpass filter driving
an IC audio amp. I doubt that I can create anything significantly more
sophisticated. I might change the filter frequencies, or sharpness, or use a more
sensitive detector, but it will still be a very broad bandwidth detector
followed by audio filtering. In that, it would seem the noise bandwidth is
completely independent of the modulation method that I choose to use on the
transmitter.
The system does work well with both PWM and AM, but I currently have no way
to compare the PWM system that uses a laser pointer with the AM system that
uses and LED. I was thinking about modifying the AM to operate either PAM or
AM at similar power. Today I had another idea that might also provide PWM
with the same basic circuit and try to match the power. With the same audio
drive and light emitter current ( for now LED, but it should also work with a
modified laser pointer that I have, though AM may be limited linearity ) I
should be able to compare the three modulation schemes. Should I expect them to
perform the same?
I had thought that I could use a simple addition the the receive circuit to
improve the performance of PAM over AM. As long a the received pulses are
stronger than the ambient light noise, stretching the pulses into the "off" time
should improve the performance so the audio filter "sees" more power. What
I was thinking is to use a peak detector with a bleed off resistor. By
capturing the peak input the pulse will stretch into the "off" time. If the peak
detector stays up, we lose information on the next pulse. However, letting
the output of the detector bleed off, with a time constant long compared to the
pulse width, but short compared to the audio modulation, the distortion
should be acceptable.
Thank you again.
James
N5GUI
In a message dated 2/21/2006 11:29:36 AM Central Standard Time,
F1AVYopto at aol.com writes:
With LED or lasers the pulse modulations give the same problems.
One can easily pulse a LED at low duty cycle and 1 to 10 watts peak power
can be output.
But ....if the pulses have T duration, the bandwidth must to be 1/2T to get
the full pulse amplitude in a linear mode RX.
If we increase the bandwidth, we increase the noise.
A threshold detector can detect the pulse and a boxcar averager can
increase
the S/N from a pulse constant rate but the AM modulation from pulses is not
extract with these devices.
To use the real energy from a short pulse we have to use a none linear
quantum detection with APD in Geiger mode operation.
The system works like photons detector and can be triggered at the photons
peaks.
The pulse rate could be modulated with a FM sub carrier or with a numerical
coding frame.
The PWM (pulsed width modulation) with a LED is a good system to get a good
modulation linearity. It needs a low pass filter to reject the commutation
frequency.
For the noise rejection in your experiment, it seems to me the best will be
to use a 10 KHz FM sub carrier to modulate your LED diode and to use an IC
demodulator in the RX.
All the parasitic AM noise received will be rejected.
Yves F1AVY
http://pageperso.aol.fr/yvesf1avy/
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