[Laser] sensor vs focal plane
Jim Moss
n9jim-6 at pacbell.net
Sat Mar 26 01:29:54 EST 2005
Note that the fresnel lenses usually do not focus quite as well as some of the
full size lenses. The result is a smearing of the focus, resulting in slightly
larger area.
Another attribute to the fresnel, is that they have a fair amount of chromatic
distortion. (focal point varies with light color or frequency) Be carefull to
focus the correct color to the sensor.
Jim
N9JIM/6
--- TWOSIG at ol.com wrote:
> In a previous post, Tim Toast stated:
>
> ",,,I had read somewhere that under-illuminated diodes (when the focal spot
> is smaller than the total area of the diode) would have more noise than if
> you
> used the whole surface area -..."
>
> I am wondering if anyone has more information on the issue of trying to
> illuminate a "large" area of a photo sensor. Tim, if you can find a
> reference on
> under-illumination, I would like to check into it further.
>
> As I see it, if you put the photo sensor at the focal plane, the incoming
> signal forms a small dot that is limited by the apparent size of the source
> and
> the quality of the optics in the collector. If you move the sensor forward
> or aft of the image plane, then the dot gets bigger. As long as the dot
> still falls entirely on the sensor, you still capture all of the photons.
>
> The first question I have under those conditions is: does the photo sensor
> work better, worse, or the same, when the same number of photons are
> clustered
> together into a small dot, or if they are spread out over most of the surface
>
> of the sensor.
>
> If your signal has neighboring noise sources in your field of view, there
> may be a way to use the sensor off of the focal plane to capture all of the
> signal photon, but reduce the noise photons. Consider two types of noise
> sources, point sources and area sources. In what follows, consider an area
> source
> to be a large number of proportionately weaker point sources scattered over
> the area.
>
> First take the case of a single point source. Removing the noise should be
> as simple as shifting the direction of the optic path so that the offender
> is
> no longer in the field of view. Shifting the sensor out of the focal plane
> is not needed.
>
> That does not work if you have multiple point sources that come into the
> field of view as you move some of them out of the field of view. To deal
> with
> this problem, one thing that you can do is to reduce the field of view,
> either
> by increasing the effective focal length of the optical path, or masking off
>
> part of the sensor. Either way the device will be harder to aim. It may be
>
> that if the photo sensor is more effective at converting the photons into
> electricity when they are bunched together, then it will be the better way
> to
> attack the problem of neighboring noise sources.
>
> On the other hand, if the photo sensor is more effective when the photons
> are dispersed over most of its surface, the there are two advantages placing
> the
> sensor further away from the objective lens. If the signal source is
> expanded to an area nearly equal to the sensor, then a noise source will be
> expanded to a similar size, and unless it is very close to the desired
> signal, some
> of its photons will fall beyond the boundaries of the sensor. Hence, the
> noise power will be reduced. The increased distance from the objective will
>
> result in a proportional increase in the spacing of the signal source from
> the
> noise source on the sensor area. That in turn will increase the spill over
> of the noise without increasing the loss of signal. There will be a small
> narrowing of the field of view,, but it will not be as dramatic as masking
> the
> sensor or increasing the focal length.
>
> There is another advantage to moving the sensor away from the focal plane.
> The larger dot will transition across the boundary of the sensor slower. If
>
> the system has a sharp focus, the photons in the signal will be more likely
> to be completely on or completely off the sensor. A large dot, is more
> likely
> to have some of the photons spill off the sensor, resulting in a fade
> instead of a sharp signal loss.
>
> There is still one more way to make use of a sensor that is further away
> from the objective. That is to put an adjustable iris at the focal plane.
> To
> acquire the signal you open it up so that you have maximum field of view.
> Once the system is locked onto the signal source, you stop down the iris,
> which
> will limit the field of view. You can then use fine adjustments to point
> the
> system more accurately at the target, and perhaps stop down the iris even
> further, to eliminate more noise. The noise that this system will eliminate
>
> probably will not cause problems finding and tracking the signal, but would
> limit the data transfer rate.
>
> In all of this discussion, I would probably prefer to use a bigger objective
>
> lens (more signal received) and longer focal length (smaller field of view,
> less noise), and more accurate pointing (needed because the field of view is
>
> more limited), to improve signal to noise characteristics. However, these
> ideas may be able to squeeze a little more performance out of a system that
> cannot be modified in size and focal length.
>
>
> James
> N5GUI
>
>
>
>
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