[KyARES] RE: [KYHAM] National Disaster Response Plan Needed?

Fred Flowers fred_flowers at bellsouth.net
Mon Sep 26 22:37:43 EDT 2005


You are right, however we all know what the reaction would be, if the two 
ton Federal gorilla came stomping in every time the wind got up.

What piece of equipment are you going to fuel up?  Who know what is needed 
until it is needed?

Disaster plans (assuming they are read) are like war plans, great until the 
first shot is fired.

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Subject: Re: [KyARES] RE: [KYHAM] National Disaster Response Plan Needed?


>> The locals still have to ask for it.  It looks like in this case disaster
>> relief & law enforcement are one and the same.
>
> That is a matter of which law you are looking at for different purposes.
>
> The Posse Comitatus Act PROHIBITS the use of the military for domestic law
> enforcement.  It says nothing about other federal resources and nothing
> about other uses of the military.
>
> The problem with other uses of federal resources isn't that they are
> prohibited but rather that they are generally not authorized (and
> specifically that they are not funded).  There is a vast difference 
> between
> prohibited, unauthorized, and unfunded.
>
> The Stafford Act specifically authorizes the use of federal resources (and
> provides a funding mechanism, but not direct funding) for disaster relief
> operations when requested by the state and personally approved by the
> President.
>
> There are a number of other general and specific authorities, plus a 
> number
> of ways for federal action within existing laws that do not require state
> action -- short of invoking the Insurrection Act.
>
> Nothing in current law prevents positioning of any federal resources in
> anticipation of use in a disaster -- but the costs incurred come out of 
> the
> respective agency existing budget (nearly non-existent in late August and
> September).
>
> So, yes, the process (under the Stafford Act) requires a state request and
> the way that process is implemented requires the state request to be for
> specific resourses that exceed the capabilities of the state; but that
> doesn't mean that federal authorities HAVE TO sit on their hands waiting 
> for
> the state to remember to ask for a 48-foot MilVan with a tractor, a 
> driver,
> an assistant driver, and 350 gallons of diesel fuel before they can assign 
> a
> driver and assistant to go perform before operations maintenance, fuel up
> the tractor, and hook up the trailer (from a legal standpoint it just 
> means
> that the Army is paying for the driver, the vehicle, and the fuel out of 
> its
> regular operations budget until someone gets around to dotting all the i's
> and crossing all the t's.
>
>
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