FW: [KL7AA] RE: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
John Wolfe
[email protected]
Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:47:47 -0600
Hi John,
Ray's call is K5 V V A. A common mistake I think. Cc to him.
I passed my 20 WPM, but I'm not a big code fanatic. In fact, I rarely use
it because I prefer voice and digital modes. If I want to do CW, I have a
machine that can do it for me, hi.
However, I like the idea of hams learning the theory and rules instead of
passing the tests by memorizing the question pool. Maybe there isn't even a
need for learning the theory anymore in this age of ready-made gear. I can
only speak for myself when I say that the effort I put forth to take the
tests and learn the code added value to my ham license.
73,
John/AA0NN
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
Behalf Of John E Lynn Jr
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:19 PM
To: David KL7EB Stevens (E-mail); Reflector KL7AA (E-mail)
Cc: 'John Wolfe'; '[email protected]'
Subject: [KL7AA] RE: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
It seems to me that if I don't know Morse code, then my character is in
serious doubt
I am insulted by such a rash and uninformed generalization!
I suspect that these vocal few will go the way of the phonograph and
8-track, it's kinda sad really...
I respect them and their abilities, I don't begrudge them a CW segment in
each band.
and by the way, no one should not be allowed to use a computer unless they
can program in machine code and do hex to decimal conversions in their head
and read 0-2-9 punch cards by eye and operate their computer from the
command line prompt
KL7CY, started out at 50KW at 650 KHz, have worked all the way to 16 GHz
without no stinking HAM license. I also hold what used to be a First Class
Radiotelephone license and is now called a "General Class Radiotelephone
License"
-----Original Message-----
From: John Wolfe [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:15 PM
To: [email protected]; EARS Club Members
Subject: [KL7AA] FW: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
Folks,
Some opinions from the deep south. What do you think? Perhaps it would
be
a good idea to let your section manager know.
73,
John/AA0NN
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert (Bob) Ray [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 11:58 AM
To: Robert (Bob) Ray
Subject: Fw: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
AREA HAM'S EMAIL LIST
See the below emails for opinions regarding the ARRL's license
recommendations. I must admit that their recommendations caught me and
others completely by surprise. This indicates that the ARRL may be out of
touch with its membership.
The objection that most people have is to the ARRL's recommendation that
all
Tech licensees be "given" the General license. That blows my mind. I
thought they would recommend combining the Novice and various Tech licenses
into a new beginner class license. The entry level Tech and Novice license
material is/should be much more alike/comparable than the non-entry level
General material. The ARRL is trying to sell the idea that the Tech
material and General material are alike/comparable, therefore the licenses
can be combined, which is absurd. They have cheapened the General license
that has always been the foundation of the entire licensing structure. I
can remember when there wasn't a Tech license, or an Advanced license, or
an
Extra license, but I can't remember when there wasn't a General license or
a
Novice license. I also disagree with Joel, the Tech license has been
dumbed
down. Every school that I have attended thought it was cheating if you
knew
in advance the questions that would appear on your test. The "old" study
material did NOT include the questions that would appear on your test;
thereby, requiring that you understand the concepts, theories, formulas,
etc. to solve problems rather than just memorizing the answers.
The problem was the Morse code requirement and the lack of HF privileges at
the entry level.. The ARRL's recommendation has solved a problem that
doesn't exist. Most people don't object to taking the General written
exam.
In fact, in anticipation of a FCC ruling in January eliminating the code
requirement for the General license, I had about 30 people lined up to
attend a General License class scheduled for February. Now nobody wants to
take the course because the ARRL is going to "give" them the General
License
and you can't blame them. When given the opportunity to make
recommendations to the FCC, the ARRL did nothing. Instead, the ARRL has
waited until January (the month that the FCC is to make it's decision on
the
code issue) to come up with an entirely different recommendation.
This is unfortunate and not good for ham radio.
Bob, K 5 V V A
----- Original Message -----
From: Floyd Gerald
To: Rick Roderick
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:25 AM
Subject: Fw: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
I know some folks (see below) that are not exactly thrilled with the latest
"decision" made by the ARRL BOD ......
I AM the Messenger.....
So.. if you agree, or do not agree, do Not shoot at me!
My ARRL Membership expires 1-30-03...so you can tell what I think!
-73-
Floyd
N5FG
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Gardner
To: Doug Epps
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
This is an open reply to Doug's email. Please read and form your own
opinion. Mine is set.
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Hi Doug,
To heck with it, I am out. No more ARRL. I have had it. I have resigned
as
ASM and will not renew my membership. It is time for a new organization
that is for ham radio, not CB ! I am all for starting a grass roots
organization that supports the true meaning of amateur radio. I will not
support this "money-Hungary" group that is headed up by David Sumner and
Joel Harrison. They are supposed to support the membership, which I feel
if
the members voted, it would be a landslide election in favor of increasing
the regulations to become an amateur operator, not decreasing them.
Anyone out there for forming a new national organization? Amateur's
definitely need a new voice, because apparently, the ARRL is not
listening.... just doing what the hierarchy wants to do. To heck with
them.
73 de Rob - WJ5K
EX- Assistant ARRL Section Mgr. - MS
I am forwarding this to all my fellow amateurs that are on my mailing list.
I will not support the ARRL until they come to their senses. If the ARRL
gets this passed, ham radio is NO MORE. It will be CB City. 10-4 Good
Buddy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Epps
To: Steve KU4IU ; Sam K4SWM ; Rob Gardner WJ5K ; Michael KG4EMV ; Lee
AD5IS ; Joe Clark AA5IL ; Jerry KF4DPF ; Jeff KU4WW ; Jack Ellis KI5QV ;
Hansel KD5DQU ; Joe N4XPZ ; Barney W4HX ; Charles N4OFM ; Danny W4PIG ;
Dennis K4DRA ; Doc KQ4L ; Gerald K4TPC ; Jerry W4RLP ; Jim K4JRS ; Joe
W4JSM
; Johnny W4JTH ; Mike KS4WZ ; Milton N4DA ; Phil K4DPK ; Rex ; Rod ; TOM
HIX
W4TH ; Tony G. W1YP ; Tony KE4PK ; Tom Ivey KU5V ; Pepper ; Mark WD5GHW ;
Joe KC5Q ; John K5PGW ; George KD4KAW ; Bill KE4LK ; Billy Jones KA5GNM ;
Bobby W4BVQ ; Clem W4MXI ; Clem W4MXI ; Dan W4GQF ; Dr. Cliff K9JTS ; Gene
WB4GB ; Harold Brown ; Jim W4SGH ; Jim W7JRW ; JIM WRIGHT W7JRW ; Ken KI5ZY
; LEW KD4DX ; Mike K5WIM ; Paul N4PC ; Red W4RED ; Terry W5TF ; Wallace
K4QVC ; Wayne W4BE
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Fw: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
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From: john king
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected] ; roy ezell ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ;
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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:30 PM
Subject: DISMAY AND DISGUST WITH ARRL AND DAVID SUMNER
Please go to www.arrl.org and look at the new proposal the ARRL has made
to the FCC to allow no-code operators on the HF bands. ARRL has
recommended
that the doors to the HF bands be opened up with little more than it takes
to get on the so-called Citizen's Band.
I was an ARRL member for years and had applied for life membership a
number of years ago when at the direction of David Sumner, the ARRL decided
to lower the standards of Amateur Radio and let RIF RAFF from 27 mhz into
Amateur Radio with watered down requirements for license. Everyone knows it
was intended to swell the membership of ARRL, sell more "appliances" so the
Japanese manufacturers would buy more full page adds in the covers of QST.
More revenue from advertising meant more operating money to pay Sumner a
higher salary. David Sumner is an egotistical, self centered, parasite to
our hobby. He has never worked in his life and has lived with his mousy
little bespeckeled pin head in the Amateur Radio Trough. He has never held
a
"real job" in "the real world". He is the single most detrimental and
dangerous threat to American Amateur Radio!!!!!!
I let my application for life membership lapse along with my membership
and subscription to QST because of the position David Sumner and ARRL had
taken to turn the Amateur Radio bands into "The Good Buddy Society of
Ignorant, Uncouth, Booger Pickin and Crotch Scratchin, Jerks".
The sad part is that I rejoined the Arrl in November 2003 just in time
for
David Sumner to direct "The Directors" of the ARRL to shoot our hobby in
the
foot "once again". This is most likey a "Gut Shot" and will probably result
in a slow and agonizing death for Amateur Radio.
David Sumner can't hide behind the skirt tails of the clodhopper
"directors" because we all know who DIRECTS the DIRECTORS. We know that the
directors are the fall guys of Sumner and that they are all wanna-be
Democrat Politicians who would sell their sister to get the a little
recognition and ego bolstering fantasies of being "leaders of men".
I am not going to cancel my membership at this time and leave our hobby
to
the mercy of David Sumner and the "lacky boy" yes persons who have been
elected to the ARRL by Default. It is time that EVERY officer of the ARRL
down to the SCMs have opposition at the next elections to remove David
Sumner's puppets from all ARRL offices resulting in the removal of Sumner
from the ARRL and hopefully the hobby of Amateur Radio. I ask each of you
to
actively recruit men and women with principle to be nominated to run for
every office as election time arises. I will contribute financially to the
campaigns of those who vow to fight to preserve the hobby and return to and
maintain the standards that existed when I was licensed in 1958.
Please send this email to every Amateur you know who is dedicated to
holding up the standards of our wonderful hobby. Please encourage them to
join the ARRL, qualify to vote, get nominated and lets' take the ARRL back
from those who are in it for personal gain, such as David Sumner, and those
small time ego maniacs who are elected and serve David Sumner.
Let's send men and women OF PRINCIPLE to Newington!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA and GOD SAVE AMATEUR RADIO!! But remember, God helps
those who help themselves and provides the strength and ability to do the
job. DO YOUR PART and resolve today to help save our hobby!! 73, John W.
King, K5PGW, Attorney at Law, B.A., CSW., J.D.
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