[Kenwood] ALC with Kenwood TS-830S

[Renee K6FSB]

silly Question-
does the rig have a carrier level control around the outside of the mic 
control?   IIRC you can turn the output down to minimum....I could be 
wrong.....
Renée

On 3/29/21 12:49 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I wrote:
> I'll state what should be obvious... make SURE the attenuator pad in 
> the transmit path, switched out while receiving (DOH!).  There likely 
> is/was a pad already in place within the amp (unless modified for 
> non-ham use).  Perhaps it is bypassed?
>
> In the interim, grossly under driving audio would have similar 
> effects, but for CW you'll need a pad.  Unless the rig has a drive 
> level control (I haven't played with an 830) for power out control.
>
> Yes, the attenuator would stop the oops factor.
>
> 73,
> Rick NK7I
>
> On 3/29/2021 12:07 PM, Steve H wrote:
>> Rick
>>
>> I guess I need an attenuator then. It would have to be able to take 100W
>> and bring it down to 5-10w for the hf bands.
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Hearns
>> KA2PTE
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick NK7I" <rick.nk7i at gmail.com>
>> To: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Kenwood] ALC with Kenwood TS-830S
>>
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> I haven't done this. Traditional wisdom is to NOT use the ALC to 
>>> limit the amp, that causes issues like flat topping and distortion 
>>> of the audio.
>>>
>>> If you're using an audio mode, try providing less audio (less 
>>> drive). Or put an attenuator pad on the amp input so it requires 
>>> more drive (which must be able to safely dissipate that power).
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Rick NK7I
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/29/2021 11:23 AM, Steve H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Trying out this alternative to using an attenuator
>>>> with my 830S and an older linear that only needs 5-10W to excite.
>>>>
>>>> Was told to get pin 6 on the remote connector din and get a 9v 
>>>> battery with
>>>> a 225k potentiometer on it and feed the wiper as per the attached
>>>> illustration.
>>>>
>>>> Thats seems to be for the 520/820s now that I notice. Turns out all 
>>>> the
>>>> hybrids use pin 6 for the alc, but I notice they are putting the 
>>>> gnd into
>>>> pin 4 on this diagram.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mediafire.com/view/5sf9ovlmvhvkqjv/alc.jpg/file
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had tried this but used the chassis ground and pin 6
>>>> thinking that would work, but it does not have any effect. Pin 4 on 
>>>> the 830
>>>> is to the NO contact of the control relay, so I dont think this 
>>>> will work.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone used the ALC on their 830 to limit input to their linear?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>> KA2PTE
>>>>
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