From w3frg1 at gmail.com Sun Jun 4 12:10:23 2017 From: w3frg1 at gmail.com (Tom-W3FRG) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:10:23 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Auto Tune Antenna Connectors Message-ID: This is the small rectangular OEM 6 pin connector (ELP-06V), female pins included, used for the Auto Tune Antenna function on the TS-50S, TS-480, TS-570, TS-590S/SG, TS-850S ACC4, TS-990S, TS-2000, TurboTuner, LDG K-OTT and many, many, more. Mating connectors (ELR-06V) and pins available for making cable extensions. Prices: 1 - 4 $6 each; 5 - 9 $5.50 each; 10 - 15 $4.50 each; 16 and up $4.00 each. *Free Domestic Shipping* Accept PayPal, MO, Cash or Personal Check. Contact Tom: w3frg1 at gmail dot com From kenw8ek at gmail.com Wed Jun 14 20:13:53 2017 From: kenw8ek at gmail.com (Ken, W8EK) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 20:13:53 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Kenwood Filters, Cables, Mic, and more FS Message-ID: <05270c19-1763-1deb-c67b-4384e747687d@gmail.com> Kenwood Items For Sale: Crystal Filters, Cables, Microphone, manuals and more For Sale: . . Kenwood "Plug In" Crystal Filters: All are for the 8.83 MHz IF, work 100% and look like new. Paper work is included. These are "plug in filters" as opposed to the type that must be soldered in. They are used in rigs such as the TS-450, TS-570, TS-690, TS-850, TS-930, TS-940, TS-950, and others. Kenwood YK-88 C 1 Crystal Filter 500 Hz wide for CW and narrow digital. Fits rigs as listed above. $79 . . Kenwood YK-88 Crystal Filters: These are "solder in" type filters used on rigs such as the TS-120, TS-130, TS-430, TS-440, and others of this era. They work 100%, and include paper work. Kenwood YK-88 S Crystal Filter This solder in filter is 2.4 KHz wide and used for SSB. $60 . . Linear Amp Switching Cables for Kenwood Rigs: . . This cable goes from a Kenwood transceiver to a linear amplifier to switch the amp from transmit to receive. One end has a DIN connector, as is used with most Kenwood rigs. The other end has an RCA phono plug, as used by most linear amplifiers. Before using this cable, please check the switching capabilities of your transceiver, and the requirements of your amplifier. Cable for switching the T/R relay Only $15. Cable as above, but with ALC line in addition to T/R switching. $20 . . Cables for use with AEA PK-232 Digital Controller: The AEA PK-232 uses a sort of odd five pin inline plastic connector. All of these cables have that connector on one end, complete with shrink tubing, and are original AEA. PK-232 to Kenwood round 8 pin The 5 pin plug on one end, and a round 8 pin mic plug on the other, wired for Kenwood. $15 PK-232 to unterminated cable The 5 pin plug on one end, and nothing on the other end, permitting one to add their own connector. $10 PK-232 to Icom 24 pin accessory plug This 24 pin plug is used on rigs like the IC-751 plus many others. It permits one to plug into the back of the rig. Both of these connectors are somewhat rare. $20 . . Kenwood Power Cables Power Cable with 6 pin Molex plug on one end as used by most HF rigs, and many others, and stripped/tinned ends on the other end. Very good condition. $22 Kenwood PG-2 N This is the power cable that has a "T" connector on one end as is used with most 2 meter, 440 MHz and dual band rigs. This one is new, still in its original packing. HRO sells these for $18. But this one for only $13. . . Kenwood SMC-30 Speaker Microphone Used with many Kenwood HTs. Works fine, looks fine. $18 . . Original Manuals for Kenwood equipment: All manuals are in very nice condition, for Kenwood equipment. All are Operating manuals unless otherwise specified. All are original manuals only. SPECIAL: Buy 2, 3, or 4 of my books/manuals, and take 10% off. Buy 5 or more and take 20% off. TH-21 2 m HT, $8 TH-22/42 HT, cover stained, $6 TH-215/315/415 HT for 2 m, 220 MHz, 440 MHz, $10 TH-225 2 m HT, $12 TH-241/441/541 mobile FM transceivers ...For 2 m, 440 MHz, & 1200 MHz $12 TM-221/421 2 m or 440 MHz mobile $12 TM-261/461 2m or 440 MHz mobile $12 TM-V7A dual bander, $10 TR-2400 2 m HT, $12 Service manual for TR-2600 2 m HT, $12 Original Service Manual for Kenwood TR-7950/TR-7930, 2 m xcvr, $15 TS-450 "External Control" (not operating manual) $7 Service Manual for TS-820 S, Very Good Copy, in binder, $15 TW-4000 dual bander mobile, $15 Service manual for TW-4000 dual bander $20 TW-4100 dual band mobile, $15 These are original manuals only. . . Original Manuals for Kenwood Accessories: All manuals are in very nice condition, for Kenwood accessories. All are original Kenwood manuals only. BC-2 Wall Charger $2 BC-5 DC to DC quick charger $2 DC-21 Dc-DC Converter $2 LF-30A Low Pass Filter $4 MC-30 & MC-35 hand microphones $4 MS-1 mobile stand $3 PB-1, PB-2, PB-3, & PB-4 battery packs $2 PB-21 Battery Pack $2 PB-24 battery pack for TR-2400 $2 PB-25 H battery pack for TR-2500 $2 PS-6 power supply $5 PS-30 power supply $4 SC-8 / 8T Soft Case $2 SMC-24 speaker mic $2 SMC-25 speaker mic $2 SP-820 Speaker $2 These are original Kenwood manuals only. . . Original Box for Kenwood TM-221 two meter mobile transceiver. $6 . . I also have many other accessories available such as many different types of microphones, HTs, VHF and UHF rigs, HF and VHF/UHF antennas, connectors, miscellaneous accessories, etc. Just too many to list here. Please e-mail your requests. Prices do not include shipping from Florida. Thanks. 73, Ken, W8EK Ken Simpson E-mail to W8EK at FLHam.net or W8EK at arrl.net Voice Phone (352) 732-8400 . From jmlowman at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 20 22:08:58 2017 From: jmlowman at sbcglobal.net (Jim Lowman) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:08:58 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x? Message-ID: I have both of these fine transceivers and I have never done anything more than unpack them. What would be a fair selling price to ask for each? I do not have the original boxes. All are in as-new condition. Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW From clif at avvid.com Tue Jun 20 23:40:06 2017 From: clif at avvid.com (Clif Holland) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:40:06 -0500 Subject: [Kenwood] Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All I would suggest is local pickup only on the 990. It's to heavy to try and pack it yourself. And I wouldn't let UPS touch it. Clif Holland KA5IPF www.avvid.com 214-850-0973 On 6/20/2017 9:08 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > I have both of these fine transceivers and I have never done anything > more than unpack them. > > What would be a fair selling price to ask for each? I do not have the > original boxes. > > All are in as-new condition. > > Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From solidgold at optonline.net Tue Jun 20 23:58:10 2017 From: solidgold at optonline.net (RON GOLDSTEIN) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Kenwood] Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: > I have both of these fine transceivers and I have never done anything > more than unpack them. > > What would be a fair selling price to ask for each? I do not have the > original boxes. > > All are in as-new condition. > > Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Used 990's are currently going for $4500-$4900 depending on age and condition. I couldn't see paying that much for a used radio that is so complex that no one is able to fix them. I sprung for the extra 2K and got a new one with full warranty. RON .... ka2iia From K3AC at aol.com Wed Jun 21 00:24:11 2017 From: K3AC at aol.com (K3AC at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 00:24:11 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x? Message-ID: <830d3.2e4b73de.467b4eeb@aol.com> Jim, The going price for TS-990's seem to be in the $4500-5000 range, depending on age/condition. The unfortunate thing is that you did not retain the factory shipping cartons/inserts, which makes shipping such a large, heavy radio by UPS/FedEx very risky, and likely to be damaged (which is why they warn you in the 990 docs to retain all shipping materials in case it has to be returned for service (or re-sold). If it were me, I'd try to sell it locally as FedEx and UPS, in my experience, are unlikely to honor any shipping damage insurance claims if you do not ship in factory cartons. The 990 is a current model so both Kenwood CA and VA Service Centers should be providing service and parts support, but I do not believe they can provide replacement shipping cartons/foam inserts since these only come with the radio from the factory. 73, Bob, K3AC In a message dated 6/20/2017 10:09:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jmlowman at sbcglobal.net writes: I have both of these fine transceivers and I have never done anything more than unpack them. What would be a fair selling price to ask for each? I do not have the original boxes. All are in as-new condition. Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - AD6CW ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From solidgold at optonline.net Wed Jun 21 07:03:11 2017 From: solidgold at optonline.net (RON GOLDSTEIN) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 07:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Kenwood] Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x? In-Reply-To: <830d3.2e4b73de.467b4eeb@aol.com> References: <830d3.2e4b73de.467b4eeb@aol.com> Message-ID: <3b249f0d.a8844.15cca5201bf.Webtop.47@optonline.net> Jim, as Bob K3AC said, DO NOT attempt to ship the 990 without the original double boxes and Styrofoam inserts. The radio is too big & heavy to ship without them. I always keep the original boxes just in case I have to ship any radio for service or if I sell it. The boxes and Styrofoam inserts are available as service parts from East Coast Transistor, but a set of boxes and inserts will probably cost you over $150. Put ads on QRZ.COM, QTH.COM, and Eham.NET, and specify local pickup only, or will meet within a 100 mile drive. You may have to lowball the price without original boxes & packing, as most people want them. The TS-2000 on the other hand can probably be shipped without the original boxes as it is much smaller and lighter. If you do ship the TS-2000, DO NOT use Styrofoam chips for packing---They tend to flatten out and chip apart if something of considerable weight starts to move around in the box. Get some heavy duty bubble wrap--It's much better than chips. Like Bob said the 990's are going for $4500-$5000 on the used market. The TS-2000's are much less---about $900-$1400, as you can buy a basic TS-2000 for about $1600 brand new. Good luck. RON....ka2iia From K3AC at aol.com Wed Jun 21 08:33:37 2017 From: K3AC at aol.com (K3AC at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:33:37 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x? Message-ID: <1dae6d.61dea10.467bc1a1@aol.com> Jim - I agree with everything Ron advised except Kenwood has a sale right now through end of July on the TS-2000 and have them discounted for $1389, shipped, new. So I'm seeing them going used for around $900-1000. One thing I'd add regarding shipping the TS-2000, if you are near a UPS Depot (not a franchise UPS Store)- you can take the radio to their customer shipping center and have them pack it for you in their boxes. They use a liquid foam expansion system (they pop these plastic bags that mix 2 chemicals together that expand and form a semi-solid foam) that will fill in the empty spaces around the radio (makes like a 2 pc. clamshell), and if you purchase insurance, if there is damage, they should honor any damage claims since they did the packing. It's a bit expensive, but if you don't have the factory shipping cartons/inserts, worth paying for. But as said previously, I don't think I'd risk doing this with the 990. 73, Bob, K3AC In a message dated 6/21/2017 7:04:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, solidgold at optonline.net writes: Jim, as Bob K3AC said, DO NOT attempt to ship the 990 without the original double boxes and Styrofoam inserts. The radio is too big & heavy to ship without them. I always keep the original boxes just in case I have to ship any radio for service or if I sell it. The boxes and Styrofoam inserts are available as service parts from East Coast Transistor, but a set of boxes and inserts will probably cost you over $150. Put ads on QRZ.COM, QTH.COM, and Eham.NET, and specify local pickup only, or will meet within a 100 mile drive. You may have to lowball the price without original boxes & packing, as most people want them. The TS-2000 on the other hand can probably be shipped without the original boxes as it is much smaller and lighter. If you do ship the TS-2000, DO NOT use Styrofoam chips for packing---They tend to flatten out and chip apart if something of considerable weight starts to move around in the box. Get some heavy duty bubble wrap--It's much better than chips. Like Bob said the 990's are going for $4500-$5000 on the used market. The TS-2000's are much less---about $900-$1400, as you can buy a basic TS-2000 for about $1600 brand new. Good luck. RON....ka2iia ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wa1rkt at comcast.net Thu Jun 22 08:45:43 2017 From: wa1rkt at comcast.net (Rick Poole) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:45:43 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x?) In-Reply-To: <3b249f0d.a8844.15cca5201bf.Webtop.47@optonline.net> References: <830d3.2e4b73de.467b4eeb@aol.com> <3b249f0d.a8844.15cca5201bf.Webtop.47@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20170622124718.E66C21E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> At 07:03 AM 6/21/2017, RON GOLDSTEIN wrote: >Jim, as Bob K3AC said, DO NOT attempt to ship the 990 without the >original double boxes and Styrofoam inserts. The radio is too big & >heavy to ship without them. Good morning, Ron. So, what do we do if we do not have, and can not get, the original boxes? I have a TS-950SDX that needs repair. I did not get the original box when I bought it, which Just Happens (if the seller just plain doesn't have the original box, what was I supposed to do?). So I drove out to a professional packer and box maker in Portsmouth, NH with radio in hand, and had a custom box special-made for the transceiver, with 3 inches of higher-density foam on front, back, sides, top, and bottom, and a custom cutout made to fit the radio. I was going to get them to make me one of those squirt-in foam-in-place inserts, which they could have done, but the box maker talked me out of it and said what they gave me was better. In any case it's far better than anything any manufacturer ever provided. I would almost even give it to United Parcel Smashers to ship, which is really saying something (but, I said "almost"... I still won't let UPS touch it). Still, even so, the only facility in the world that I trust to fix this thing correctly will not accept it without the original box, no exceptions. That's their policy and I respect it, but the hard fact is the original box is not and will not be available. So now I have a very expensive doorstop due to what could easily be a relatively simple fix (I have a very good idea what is wrong with it but no longer have the eyesight or the finger dexterity to fix it myself). If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears, but mainly I just wanted to point out that not all of us have the luxury of original boxes, even if we did they may not be in the best of condition, and there are other options that are just as good or better, if one is willing to pay for them (custom-made boxes are not cheap). Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days From K3AC at aol.com Thu Jun 22 08:59:01 2017 From: K3AC at aol.com (K3AC at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:59:01 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... Message-ID: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> Regarding this thread, I think there's 2 lessons to be learned from all this when considering purchasing a large, heavy transceiver: 1) If you're buying one new (like a 990) - NEVER throw away the factory cartons/foam inserts. It will either be very expensive, or impossible to replace them. 2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't supply a complete set of factory cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a problem down the road, you won't be able to safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts only radio. Bob, K3AC In a message dated 6/22/2017 8:48:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wa1rkt at comcast.net writes: At 07:03 AM 6/21/2017, RON GOLDSTEIN wrote: >Jim, as Bob K3AC said, DO NOT attempt to ship the 990 without the >original double boxes and Styrofoam inserts. The radio is too big & >heavy to ship without them. Good morning, Ron. So, what do we do if we do not have, and can not get, the original boxes? I have a TS-950SDX that needs repair. I did not get the original box when I bought it, which Just Happens (if the seller just plain doesn't have the original box, what was I supposed to do?). So I drove out to a professional packer and box maker in Portsmouth, NH with radio in hand, and had a custom box special-made for the transceiver, with 3 inches of higher-density foam on front, back, sides, top, and bottom, and a custom cutout made to fit the radio. I was going to get them to make me one of those squirt-in foam-in-place inserts, which they could have done, but the box maker talked me out of it and said what they gave me was better. In any case it's far better than anything any manufacturer ever provided. I would almost even give it to United Parcel Smashers to ship, which is really saying something (but, I said "almost"... I still won't let UPS touch it). Still, even so, the only facility in the world that I trust to fix this thing correctly will not accept it without the original box, no exceptions. That's their policy and I respect it, but the hard fact is the original box is not and will not be available. So now I have a very expensive doorstop due to what could easily be a relatively simple fix (I have a very good idea what is wrong with it but no longer have the eyesight or the finger dexterity to fix it myself). If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears, but mainly I just wanted to point out that not all of us have the luxury of original boxes, even if we did they may not be in the best of condition, and there are other options that are just as good or better, if one is willing to pay for them (custom-made boxes are not cheap). Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From wa1rkt at comcast.net Thu Jun 22 09:45:10 2017 From: wa1rkt at comcast.net (Rick Poole) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 09:45:10 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... In-Reply-To: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> References: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> Message-ID: <20170622134539.366C51E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> At 08:59 AM 6/22/2017, Bob via Kenwood wrote: >2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't >supply a complete set of factory >cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a problem >down the road, you won't be able to >safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts >only radio. My problem is not that I can't safely ship it... I would be absolutely comfortable shipping it anywhere in the world in the custom box I had made... but that I can't find anyone I can trust to fix it correctly who will accept it for repair without the original box, no matter that this box is better. That's a different problem without a ready solution. Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days From clif at avvid.com Thu Jun 22 10:39:49 2017 From: clif at avvid.com (Clif Holland) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 09:39:49 -0500 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... In-Reply-To: <20170622134539.366C51E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> References: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> <20170622134539.366C51E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> Message-ID: <1dc1f603-5b5c-293b-2385-ef707a434e04@avvid.com> Rick contact me. Clif Holland KA5IPF www.avvid.com 214-850-0973 On 6/22/2017 8:45 AM, Rick Poole wrote: > At 08:59 AM 6/22/2017, Bob via Kenwood wrote: > > >> 2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't >> supply a complete set of factory >> cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a >> problem >> down the road, you won't be able to >> safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts >> only radio. > > > My problem is not that I can't safely ship it... I would be absolutely > comfortable shipping it anywhere in the world in the custom box I had > made... but that I can't find anyone I can trust to fix it correctly > who will accept it for repair without the original box, no matter that > this box is better. That's a different problem without a ready solution. > > > > Rick WA1RKT > Londonderry, NH > Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From ka9dvl1 at comcast.net Thu Jun 22 11:27:44 2017 From: ka9dvl1 at comcast.net (RITCH WILLIAMS) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:27:44 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... Message-ID: <95f5b691-d5cc-4caa-83d7-02a72a058375@riwillias-iPhone> Will they truly refuse it when it arrives?? KA9DVL Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Rick Poole To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net Sent: June 22, 2017 at 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... At 08:59 AM 6/22/2017, Bob via Kenwood wrote:>2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't>supply a complete set of factory>cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a problem>down the road, you won't be able to>safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts>only radio. My problem is not that I can't safely ship it... I would be absolutely comfortable shipping it anywhere in the world in the custom box I had made... but that I can't find anyone I can trust to fix it correctly who will accept it for repair without the original box, no matter that this box is better. That's a different problem without a ready solution. Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From jmlowman at sbcglobal.net Thu Jun 22 15:22:17 2017 From: jmlowman at sbcglobal.net (Jim Lowman) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:22:17 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... In-Reply-To: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> References: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> Message-ID: <2c630369-89de-96c9-075f-3468f0340eea@sbcglobal.net> I agree, Bob, especially in the case of a large, heavy transceiver like the TS-990S. My problem is, I have nowhere to store the boxes in this small house and garage. That's the reason that I never save them. I guess the best that I can do, is to offer to deliver the 990 within a reasonable distance of home. For an area with the population of greater LA/Orange County, there are almost no swapmeets any longer. That has always puzzled me. Worst case, I have a top-of-the line transceiver that I can put to use. The 990 was the trainwreck that I couldn't look away from at ham conventions. Even after it was first introduced, it drew surprisingly small crowds at these events. I bought it mostly on an impulse, and probably somewhat out of grief, after I lost my wife of 44 years. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 6/22/2017 5:59 AM, Bob via Kenwood wrote: > Regarding this thread, I think there's 2 lessons to be learned from all > this when > considering purchasing a large, heavy transceiver: > > 1) If you're buying one new (like a 990) - NEVER throw away the factory > cartons/foam inserts. It will either be very expensive, or impossible to > replace them. > > 2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't > supply a complete set of factory > cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a problem > down the road, you won't be able to > safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts > only radio. > > Bob, K3AC > From wa1rkt at comcast.net Thu Jun 22 16:08:47 2017 From: wa1rkt at comcast.net (Rick Poole) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:08:47 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... In-Reply-To: <95f5b691-d5cc-4caa-83d7-02a72a058375@riwillias-iPhone> References: <95f5b691-d5cc-4caa-83d7-02a72a058375@riwillias-iPhone> Message-ID: <20170622202453.8ACCF1E15C4@www3.rkt-tech.com> At 11:27 AM 6/22/2017, RITCH WILLIAMS wrote: >Will they truly refuse it when it arrives?? Good afternoon, Ritch. I don't know but I don't really want to do that. They have a policy and I have to respect that. Anyway, my guess is they're not so much worried about it arriving there in one piece, at that point they haven't touched it yet so they can't be blamed if it arrives trashed. They're probably more concerned with it arriving back here in one piece after the repairs. They don't want to get blamed if they pack it back up in my box and it gets trashed on the way back here. I get that. Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days From wa1rkt at comcast.net Thu Jun 22 18:09:50 2017 From: wa1rkt at comcast.net (Rick Poole) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 18:09:50 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and a TS-2000x?) In-Reply-To: <0d06589d-9165-55d2-cdda-14ace186d16d@idaho.net> References: <830d3.2e4b73de.467b4eeb@aol.com> <3b249f0d.a8844.15cca5201bf.Webtop.47@optonline.net> <20170622124718.E66C21E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> <0d06589d-9165-55d2-cdda-14ace186d16d@idaho.net> Message-ID: <20170622221000.6F1231E1408@www3.rkt-tech.com> At 04:47 PM 6/22/2017, John Kuklewicz N7ZN wrote: >Maybe you can find a place that offers two part foam in place >packaging. Back in the day I would receive rental electronic test >equipment packaged this way. This was equipment worth many 10s of >kilobucks. Large and heavy. The place that made my box has that capability, and talked me out of it, said what they gave me was better. Rick WA1RKT From jimw7ry at gmail.com Fri Jun 23 19:57:34 2017 From: jimw7ry at gmail.com (Jim W7RY) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:57:34 -0500 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... In-Reply-To: <20170622134539.366C51E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> References: <6f2e6.40518455.467d1915@aol.com> <20170622134539.366C51E1590@www3.rkt-tech.com> Message-ID: <3291F463CE974E6785A8104F00C30710@JimsLaptop> That?s called inflexibility. Kinda like United Airlines. Tiresome when one is not flexible and wont take other situations into count when making and enforcing rules. 73 Jim W7RY -----Original Message----- From: Rick Poole Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:45 AM To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... At 08:59 AM 6/22/2017, Bob via Kenwood wrote: >2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't >supply a complete set of factory >cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a problem >down the road, you won't be able to >safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts >only radio. My problem is not that I can't safely ship it... I would be absolutely comfortable shipping it anywhere in the world in the custom box I had made... but that I can't find anyone I can trust to fix it correctly who will accept it for repair without the original box, no matter that this box is better. That's a different problem without a ready solution. Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From K3AC at aol.com Fri Jun 23 20:56:13 2017 From: K3AC at aol.com (K3AC at aol.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 20:56:13 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... Message-ID: <473a07.584a3e91.467f12ad@aol.com> There are several private amateur radio repair techs that are willing to accept ham gear for repair as long as it's well packed (they will often provide recommendations on how they recommend you pack the radio (bubble wrapping, double boxing, etc) to minimize risk of damage. Many of them are listed on Eham, QST, etc. If you contact them in advance, they will go over their requested method of packing and their recommended shipper (UPS or FedEx). For older radios, they understand that factory shipping cartons/inserts\ are often no longer available, or have deteriorated and not sturdy enough anymore to protect the radio. . The problem I've encountered is not with the repair techs being inflexible, but rather UPS, FEDEX and USPS being inflexible in terms of honoring insurance shipping damage claims. It seems that in the past few years, most of them have set inflexible policies that if expensive electronic items are not shipped in original factory cartons, they will reject all insurance damage claims outright. For something as expensive as a TS-990, it's probably wise to purchase a new set of cartons/inserts from Kenwood before shipping it anywhere, in case there is damage. Then at least you can demonstrate with photos that it was shipped in factory cartons, etc. I have a feeling that if you send a TS-990 to Kenwood East/West Service center and it's not shipped in factory cartons, they will repair it, but when they return the radio to you they'll repack it in a set of replacement factory cartons and just add the cost of them to the bill (for a TS-990, it's not going to be cheap). 73, Bob, KAC In a message dated 6/23/2017 8:02:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jimw7ry at gmail.com writes: That?s called inflexibility. Kinda like United Airlines. Tiresome when one is not flexible and wont take other situations into count when making and enforcing rules. 73 Jim W7RY -----Original Message----- From: Rick Poole Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:45 AM To: kenwood at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... At 08:59 AM 6/22/2017, Bob via Kenwood wrote: >2) If you're buying a used radio - do NOT buy it if the seller can't >supply a complete set of factory >cartons/inserts. As one of the posters found out, if it develops a problem >down the road, you won't be able to >safely ship it anywhere for repairs - thus making it an expensive parts >only radio. My problem is not that I can't safely ship it... I would be absolutely comfortable shipping it anywhere in the world in the custom box I had made... but that I can't find anyone I can trust to fix it correctly who will accept it for repair without the original box, no matter that this box is better. That's a different problem without a ready solution. Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From chris at g3vbl.co.uk Sat Jun 24 03:09:28 2017 From: chris at g3vbl.co.uk (Chris Pedder) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 07:09:28 +0000 Subject: [Kenwood] Fwd: Re: What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... Message-ID: <594e1032.c708620a.8cf40.baba@mx.google.com> This is the best advice that you will receive. Chris G3VBL >Sender: kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net > >Rick contact me. > >Clif Holland KA5IPF >www.avvid.com >214-850-0973 From bmarx at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 24 09:00:13 2017 From: bmarx at bellsouth.net (Bill) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 09:00:13 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Fwd: Re: What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and ... In-Reply-To: <594e1032.c708620a.8cf40.baba@mx.google.com> References: <594e1032.c708620a.8cf40.baba@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8dd3fb84-abbf-f9f7-1685-2abcc83fb7f3@bellsouth.net> My experience with Clif was terrific. Nuff said! Bill W2CQ On 6/24/2017 3:09 AM, Chris Pedder wrote: > This is the best advice that you will receive. > > Chris G3VBL > > > >> Sender: kenwood-bounces at mailman.qth.net >> >> Rick contact me. >> >> Clif Holland KA5IPF >> www.avvid.com >> 214-850-0973 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Kenwood mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > From don at guthries.com Sat Jun 24 10:16:56 2017 From: don at guthries.com (Don Guthrie) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:16:56 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Fwd: Re: What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and . Message-ID: <001701d2ecf4$89730e80$9c592b80$@com> Dido about Cliff. he's the man Don VE3EVZ From K3AC at aol.com Sat Jun 24 10:35:49 2017 From: K3AC at aol.com (K3AC at aol.com) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:35:49 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Fwd: Re: What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS... Message-ID: Agreed about Cliff. He helped me get my TS-940 working again, and offered helpful advice over the phone. Bob, K3AC In a message dated 6/24/2017 10:24:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, don at guthries.com writes: Dido about Cliff. he's the man Don VE3EVZ ______________________________________________________________ Kenwood mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From marty at kj4lqx.com Sat Jun 24 12:59:26 2017 From: marty at kj4lqx.com (Marty Grove) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 12:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] Fwd: Re: What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and . In-Reply-To: <001701d2ecf4$89730e80$9c592b80$@com> References: <001701d2ecf4$89730e80$9c592b80$@com> Message-ID: <0b8583f1-58a7-4cd0-b449-9f9d66e213fa@KJ4LQX.com> I also agree that Cliff is the man. About 10 years ago I bought a used TS-440S and emailed Cliff to see if he could check it out for me. He said if it's working leave it alone. But I persisted and sent him my radio anyway. He went through the alignment on it and checked it out thoroughly.? The? radio has been working perfectly ever since.?? If I ever have a problem with any of my Kenwood radios, he will be the first person I will call. Marty - KJ4LQX ?Sent from BlueMail ? On Jun 24, 2017, 10:17 AM, at 10:17 AM, Don Guthrie wrote: >Dido about Cliff. he's the man > >Don VE3EVZ > >______________________________________________________________ >Kenwood mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kenwood >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Kenwood at mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html From kgordon2006 at frontier.com Sat Jun 24 13:21:00 2017 From: kgordon2006 at frontier.com (Kenneth G. Gordon) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:21:00 -0700 Subject: [Kenwood] No orig. boxes In-Reply-To: <0b8583f1-58a7-4cd0-b449-9f9d66e213fa@KJ4LQX.com> References: <001701d2ecf4$89730e80$9c592b80$@com>, <0b8583f1-58a7-4cd0-b449-9f9d66e213fa@KJ4LQX.com> Message-ID: <594E9F7C.5724.4A0E40@kgordon2006.frontier.com> Clif is totally honest, very kind, completely technically competent, and is the ONLY person in the entire world to whom I would ever send any Kenwood item needing repair. He has helped me with two TS-940s, one of which had been hacked (correctly, it turned out), which had been GIVEN to me, and which I am still using. All I can say is God Bless him, and I hope he is around a great while longer. Ken W7EKB P.S. I do still have a set of the original Kenwood shipping boxes for my TS-940s. The boxes are getting a bit bedraggled, but still suffice. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From wa1rkt at comcast.net Thu Jun 29 06:58:52 2017 From: wa1rkt at comcast.net (Rick Poole) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:58:52 -0400 Subject: [Kenwood] What if we have no orig. boxes? (was Re: Value of a TS-990 and . In-Reply-To: <0b8583f1-58a7-4cd0-b449-9f9d66e213fa@KJ4LQX.com> References: <001701d2ecf4$89730e80$9c592b80$@com> <0b8583f1-58a7-4cd0-b449-9f9d66e213fa@KJ4LQX.com> Message-ID: By a magic miracle, I found an original Kenwood TS-950SDX shipping box in decent condition with both of the original styrofoam inserts. And now I understand fully why the original styrofoam inserts are so important. You can get a custom made shipping box fabricated like I did, with three inches of high-density foam rubber all around, but it will put some amount of pressure on the controls of the front panel. I have no idea whether that's enough pressure to do any damage, but I think it might be, which is why the manufacturer's styrofoam inserts are designed to hold the front panel in place without touching any of the controls. Likewise the back panel... the transmit and receive antenna loop-throughs and the two cables that come up from the DSP unit both stick out a bit from the back panel and could be damaged by undue pressure. I had disconnected all of that and taped it to the back panel with gaffer's tape . . . but with the factory back panel styrofoam insert I don't have to do that. So, the radio is all packed up . . . correctly, this time . . . and will be on its way to Clif Holland this morning. If I had to ship the radio without the original box, I would still be fairly comfortable doing so with the custom-made box I have, but I would fabricate some pieces of styrofoam to space off the front and back panels and keep the controls and the cables from undue stress. Rick WA1RKT Londonderry, NH Catch me on 14.300 MHz Intercon / MMSN most days