[Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?

Tue Jan 11 11:49:59 EST 2005

So how does the TS570SG work on CW?  Looks like a good
CW rig, although the narrow DSP filtering looks a
little confusing at first.  Does it really narrow down
the bandpass without any ringing?

73s John NE0P

--- Cyrus Turner <w5dxe at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Really!!
> I agree with Clif. Where is the reflector moderator?
> I thought this 
> reflector dealt with subject matter retaining to
> Kenwood amateur products 
> and Kenwood amateur products alone. Not the politics
> of Pros and Cons of CW. 
> Let's keep non KW subject matter off the reflector
> and respond to each other 
> directly.This isn't a public soap box guys. There.
> That's my 2 cents worth.
> Cy/W5DXE
> 
> >From: "Clif Holland" <clif at avvid.com>
> >To: "KU4YP" <ku4yp at verizon.net>, "Leigh S. Jones"
> <kr6x at kr6x.com>
> >CC: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
> >Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
> >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:37:33 -0600
> >
> >I'm outa here, this isn't a CW discussion group.
> >
> >Clif Holland, KA5IPF
> >www.avvid.com
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "KU4YP"
> <ku4yp at verizon.net>
> >To: "Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com>
> >Cc: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:14 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
> >
> >
> >>agreed and well said OM.
> >>
> >>73 KU4YP
> >>
> >>Leigh S. Jones wrote:
> >>>This debate has howled on so long that I guess
> I'd be doing
> >>>amateur radio a disservice if I didn't add my
> comments.
> >>>
> >>>First, I need to make it very clear that I hold
> in low regard
> >>>anyone who uses language such as "outdated" to
> describe
> >>>Morse code.  The truth is very simple.  If
> everyone had the
> >>>skill needed to communicate in Morse code, then
> no one
> >>>would ever describe the code as "outdated".  The
> code
> >>>may, some day, perhaps within this century,
> become
> >>>outdated.  "Outdated" is an excuse -- a slander. 
> When someone calls the 
> >>>code outdated, he means that he, personally, does
> not possess the skill 
> >>>needed to communicate in the code.  He issues the
> false claim that
> >>>he is more modern than the code, thus he is above
> it.
> >>>The code can only be outdated when there is
> nothing to
> >>>be gained by its use by anyone.
> >>>
> >>>I see the relationship between amateur radio and
> the code in a different 
> >>>light.  To me, the code is like instrumental
> music.  One can learn to 
> >>>sing and to make music without instruments.  Song
> in its purest form is a
> >>>thing of beauty, but the world doesn't need to be
> limited
> >>>to acappella song.  There can also be
> instrumental music.
> >>>Amateur Radio is the grandeur of such music. 
> Some
> >>>will only sing, while others will gain the skills
> needed to
> >>>make music with an instrument.
> >>>
> >>>I also believe in separate subbands for the
> modes, really as a 
> >>>convenience but also for more practical reasons.
> >>>The modes are best kept apart.  It would take a
> very long time to explain 
> >>>why, and one major idea per post
> >>>is a sensible plan.
> >>>
> >>>KR6X
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger"
> <johngeig at yahoo.com>
> >>>To: <k4pdm at yahoo.com>; <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
> >>>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:59 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Kenwood] CW Outdated Mode?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>--- Paul Manuel <k4pdm at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>To my ear, the novice CW bands are little-used
> (and
> >>>>>should be refarmed
> >>>>
> >>>>No, the technician license should be eliminated,
> and
> >>>>the novice license brought back as the point of
> entry
> >>>>into amateur radio.
> >>>>
> >>>>73s John NE0P
> >>>>
> >>>
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