[Kenwood] New rig rumors??

Rob Atkinson, K5UJ k5uj at mc.net
Sun Jan 9 14:50:59 EST 2005


what R&D--there is nothing here that is being invented--everything i have
mentioned is practically off the shelf.

judging by pro III and IC7800 sales, i'd say the market is there.

73,
rob/k5uj


----- Original Message -----
From: "peter A Markavage" <manualman at juno.com>
To: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] New rig rumors??


> Quote - in fact, if they took the 870, added a 200 w. pa, and the 850's
> great AM
> performance they would pretty much have it.  Throw in a TFT bandscope
> display and built-in p.s. and they would clean up.
>
> Your assumption here is that the market is big enough to support the
> research and development expense to design and market this type of rig.
> Maybe Kenwood doesn't feel that strongly.
>
> I think they should design a "Kachina" type of transceiver, based on the
> learning curve of the TS-2000/B2000 designs and also get the TL-933
> cleaned up for "type acceptance" for sale in the U.S. Downloaded firmware
> upgrades would be great icing on this design. The traditional box and
> knob design shows following the crowd and even worse, third man out.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:06:13 -0600 "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj at mc.net>
> writes:
> > john, is the TL933 currently in production?  is it a legal limit HF
> > amp?
> >
> > the reason i am asking is i have not heard of it so i'm interested
> > in
> > finding out more.
> >
> > i think kw should go for the market that simply wants a good HF SSB
> > ragchew
> > rig.  it should be designed for good casual SSB and AM operation
> > with decent
> > audio.
> >
> > in fact, if they took the 870, added a 200 w. pa, and the 850's
> > great AM
> > performance they would pretty much have it.  Throw in a TFT
> > bandscope
> > display and built-in p.s. and they would clean up.
> >
> > what mfrs seem to miss is that not everyone is obsessed with digging
> > weak
> > ones out of the mud and so on.
> > if I can't hear someone on my 870, to bad for him.  i find someone
> > else to
> > talk to.
> >
> > 73,
> > rob/k5uj
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj at mc.net>; <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Kenwood] New rig rumors??
> >
> >
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > Go see www.rigpix.com, under Kenwood.  They have a
> > > TL933 amp that is not imported into the US for some
> > > reason (Type acceptance?)  It is a great looking amp
> > > also. Resembles a tower computer.
> > >
> > > I think that Kenwood is having problems finding a
> > > niche right now, so they have jumped on the mobile
> > > direction instead.  Most people would agree that Yaesu
> > > currently has the best contesting rigs-and if you look
> > > at the QST reviews, they have less sensitivity, but
> > > better IMD and blocking numbers.  Icom seems to have
> > > grabbed the DXing market-better sensitivity, slightly
> > > less good receive numbers.
> > >
> > > I think Kenwood is going after the VHF market.  The
> > > TS2000 is the best VHF/UHF rig out there, and many of
> > > their past VHF monoband rigs are some of the best
> > > rated (TS60, TM255, TR851A).  The F6A is probably one
> > > of the best multiband HTs out there, although the
> > > receiver isn't too good once you get outside the ham
> > > bands.
> > >
> > > Will be interesting to see what direction they go.
> > >
> > > 73s John NE0P
> > >
> > > --- "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj at mc.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > john, i have heard nothing definite.  i hate to be
> > > > pessimistic and i hope i
> > > > am wrong, but what i have heard seems to be wishful
> > > > thinking.  one reason i
> > > > bought my 870 last year was that i had a feeling it
> > > > might be the last fixed
> > > > station type rig from kenwood.  i have a feeling
> > > > they are moving toward
> > > > mobile, HT, and TS2000 production and that's it.
> > > > one reason i think that
> > > > is that unlike yaesu and icom, they no longer
> > > > manufacture a full line of
> > > > station accessories such as a linear amp.  i think
> > > > if they had plans to
> > > > continue to compete with Y and I in the "big rig"
> > > > area, they'd still be
> > > > selling a complete line.  however, my comments are
> > > > just more speculation
> > > > from another uninformed ham and should be taken as
> > > > such.
> > > >
> > > > rob/k5uj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:06 AM
> > > > Subject: [Kenwood] New rig rumors??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Now that the TS870 has been discontinued, and
> > > > Kenwood
> > > > > is left without a high end rig, has anyone been
> > > > > hearing rumors about Kenwood's next rig?  Maybe
> > > > > something to introduce at Dayton 2005?
> > > > >
> > > > > 73s John NE0P
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