[Kenwood] www.powerham.com
Bob Wilder
[email protected]
Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:21:53 -0600
The first clue that this is a scam is that the Kenwood site has not even released
any data on the TL-933 which is supposed to be released some time next year.
At 04:04 AM 12/16/2003 -0800, Kiernan Burr wrote:
>hi all i was just at the Power ham site and was noseing around the funny thing is that it looks too good to be true but they need to do their home work better:
>Kenwood: TL-933 SPECIFICATIONS
>
>- Operational frequency: 1.8 - 30 MHz Amateur bands, 4630kHz and 50 - 54MHz Amateur band
>- Rated output power: 1kW (at the time of AC200V), 500W (at the time of AC100V) however, as for 50MHz band, with AC200V and AC100V 500W setting (when shipping)
>- Output matched impedance range: 50 ohms unbalanced VSWR max. 3.:01 (16.7 - 150 ohm) however, as for 50MHz band, VSWR max. 2.0:1 (25 - 100 ohm)
>- Spurious emissions: - Below 50dB * 1 (HF band), - below 60dB * 1 (50MHz band)
>- 3rd-order intermodulation (IP3): - Below 40dB * 2 (1.8 - 24.9MHz band), - below 38dB * 2 (28MHz band), - below 33dB * 2 (50MHz band)
>- Input impedance: 50 ohms unbalanced VSWR < 1.5 (at the time of PA ON)
>- RF drive power: 120W max. (automatic tuning: > 30W)
>- Frequency change time: Less than of 0.5 seconds
>- Power source voltage: AC100V - AC240V and single-phase 50/60Hz
>- Electric power consumption: 3kVA (at 1kW output)
>- Input power source power factor: 95% or more (at the time of rated output)
>- Category temperature range: - 10 - +40�C
>- External size: 233 (width) x 444 (height) x 450 (depth) mm (at the time of vertical ranging, projections not being included)
>- Weight: Approximately 28kg
>please look at the following items
>-Rated output power that whole line seems wrong as well as
>-"operational frequency" and the frequency 4630khz? is that not the alaska emerg freq? not sure but just a guess
>-the dimentions METRIC if you look in
>-contact info there is an area code 509 number listed i think that is the US logic states that the dimentions would be in STANDARD as well with the weight in metric
>-external size and specifically "(at time of vertical ranging, projections not included)"
>-"category temprature range"???? ummm operational temprature range makes better sense to me
>as well there Secure order form is not secure at all and there is no option to use credit cards nor any other online payment method.... real shady to me as well there are glaring gramatical errors and spelling errors (sorry for mine lol) as well the reference to the public safety and commercial side of the industry was not followed up with a link hope nobody gets stung by this site
>
>73
>Kiernan
>ve7ktb
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Traian <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected], [email protected],kenwood <[email protected]>
>Subject: [Kenwood] www.powerham.com
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:23:08 +0200
>
>Hi all Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood list members,
>
>The Mobifon is a mobile phone service company here in YO and also an important
>ISP.
>This mean that the www.powerham.com is a scam 100% and maybe they are the
>same
>as the two years ago "Wilfrid" company which said to be in Munchen DL.
>A warning message regarding them was put on qth.com site also.
>Please take care about.
>You have attached below some info I already sent to some.
>
>Merry Christmas to all ahd have a Happy New Year,
>73,
>Traian, YO9FZS
>
>
>
>Dear OM's,
>
>A post regarding the www.powerham.com site and that company I found also on
>a local YO site (http://f16.parsimony.net/forum27192/messages/6882.htm).
>I was suspected them from the first time I saw their site.
>They seem to be the same person(s) that scammed many hams two years ago
>using the so called "Wilfrid" company which said to be in Munich, DL.
>I almost to lost my $, but fortunately I gave up and did not sent the $, as
>soon as they
>told me that their company have low prices because they are not paying
>taxes!!!...
>But they scamed many other hams, all over the world, some of which are owning
>very
>well known callsigns.
>They are acting only on this period of the year as this is the top of demands!
>
>[I have made search on YO callbook at that time for the name I was given, for
>finding more info as the ones scamed to may get their $ back, but did not find
>that name
>in the YO callbook here (they seemed to be aware of ham technology and the
>specific language).]
>
>I already placed warning on some YO sites
>(http://f16.parsimony.net/forum27192/messages/6904.htm,
> http://www.hamradio.ro/swap/vand.php)
>
>Please post regular (daily) warnings on the swap sites about them, on the "For
>sale"
>announcements. Please don't let the swap sites users to be scamed!
>
>The "Wilfrid" guys phone number posted two years ago was a valid one and
>someone could be contacted at, giving "info" about the rigs but avoided any
>further info, especially regarding direct contact.
>You may check if the new phone numbers displayed on the powerham site are
>valid/actual ones and if direct contact is ok or not, maybe you may contact
>the
>authorities there and to caught someone and OM's to get their $ back.
>
>Please pass to me any further info about.
>
>I am sorry about, they put the rest of us YO hams on an embarrassing
>situation.
>Thank you for your help to the ham community.
>
>Merry Christmas to all and have a Happy New Year,
>73,
>Traian, YO9FZS/p
>Bucharest, Romania
>
>
>
>Joined: 15 Dec 2003
>Posts: 1
>
> Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:28 pm Post subject: Powerham scam
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>This operator of this Romanian website:
>http://www.powerham.com
>claims to have the Icom IC-7800 for sale. This radio has not been released
>(Icom claims spring 2004)
>
>When asked for "terms", he requests a "wire transfer". Very bad.
>
>He came to www.eham.net and registered as several different users (even
>bootlegging a legitimate US call) and posted several
>Classifieds for high-end equipment (FT-1000MP MkV, IC-7800, PW-1, etc)
>
>We are keeping a close eye out for him. I suggest you do the same.
>
>Regards,
>Mike N2MG
>webmaster at eham.net
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Icom] Who is PowerHam??
>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:57:22 -0500
>> From: Peter A Markavage <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>> U. S. Business search turned up zero data on PowerHam and Power Radio.
>> Here's the info on the DOMAIN NAME:
>>
>> Domain name: powerham.com
>>
>> Registrant Contact:
>> MobiFon SA
>> CONNEX Hostmaster ([email protected])
>> +40.213022222
>> Fax: none
>> 3, Nerva Traian Street
>> Bucharest, 7000
>> RO
>>
>> Administrative Contact:
>> MobiFon SA
>> CONNEX Hostmaster ([email protected])
>> +40.213022222
>> Fax: none
>> 3, Nerva Traian Street
>> Bucharest, 7000
>> RO
>>
>> Technical Contact:
>> MobiFon SA
>> CONNEX Hostmaster ([email protected])
>> +40.213022222
>> Fax: none
>> 3, Nerva Traian Street
>> Bucharest, 7000
>> RO
>>
>> Billing Contact:
>> MobiFon SA
>> CONNEX Hostmaster ([email protected])
>> +40.213022222
>> Fax: none
>> 3, Nerva Traian Street
>> Bucharest, 7000
>> RO
>>
>> Status: registrar-lock
>>
>> Name Servers:
>> ns6.dr.myx.net
>> dnsbck.dr.myx.net
>>
>> Creation date: 10 Dec 2003 05:37:39
>> Expiration date: 10 Dec 2004 05:37:39
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:33:22 -0800 Adam Farson <[email protected]> writes:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > Neither the IC-7800 nor the Kenwood TL-933 has received FCC
>> > equipment
>> > certification. These guys could be facing federal prosecution for
>> > advertising equipment for sale before it has received an FCC ID
>> > code.
>> >
>> > Also, they do not show up on Icom America's dealer list.
>> >
>> > Thus, one may draw one's own conclusions...
>> >
>> > "If it looks too good to be true, it probably is..." Incidentally,
>> > they did
>> > me the favour of "borrowing" my AltaVista translation of the Kenwood
>> > TL-933
>> > site without pubs credit. Oh well...
>> >
>> > Cheers for now, 73,
>> > Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]]On
>> > Behalf Of KENT HUFFORD
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 09:56
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Cc: Mike Newland; Bob Donnelly; 'Denis Catalano'; [email protected]
>> > Subject: [Icom] Who is PowerHam??
>> >
>> >
>> > Who is PowerHam? Anybody ever get anything from them?
>> >
>> > Their address is in Kennewick WA.
>> >
>> > The price for the 756PRO2 is real cheap! So is $3700 for a PW-1!!
>> >
>> > The 7800 is "on stock", what ever that is.
>> >
>> > "ICOM IC-7800 HF on stock for $11,000.00" That price is not too
>> > good,tho.
>> > However, don't know what good is yet<g>
>> >
>> >
>> > This place is too good to be true..
>> >
>> > Kent
>> > KQ4KK
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > On
>> > Behalf Of John SUGGS
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:03 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [Icom] Check This Out Brand New 756PRO2 $1950
>> >
>> > Some new guys on the block .... check them out at ---->
>> > http://www.powerham.com/
>> >
>> > $1950 for a brand new 756PRO2 They are also selling the IC7800
>> > .. with
>> > factory warranty...
>> >
>> > Interesting ??!!
>> >
>> > John .. KC3QL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, [email protected]
>> > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.315 MHz
>> > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, [email protected]
>> > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.315 MHz
>> > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>> >
>> >
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