[KCDXC] Fwd: K.C.DX Club Dues:

Tue Feb 23 10:14:11 EST 2010

OH WOW, here we go again. Where does he get this stuff. Cartoon channel?
rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex, KU1CW [mailto:ku1cw at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:31 PM
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Cc: KCDX RealQTH; Jeff Blaine
Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Fwd: K.C.DX Club Dues:

Jeff,
 As a carrying public servant you should of count in opinion of the KCDXC
members, when important decisions are made. Club members have deserved more
details, ALL of them and not only a dozen (25% at best), who was present at
the given club meeting. Members don't have to attend all meetings, and it's
hard to justify going to one with no agenda.
Please use e-mail and reflector for communications and notifications. 
 Interesting, but seems that you don't remember anything about this only
proposal...when it happened, who was there, who was for and against
proposal, why more funds is needed and what are the 'new' ideas club will
use funds for. One was able to learn a lot of Chinese language in last few
years, but no recollection of simple details about club meeting...? :)

 Why meeting minutes are not send to club members anymore, why no
presentations and new materials are available as well?
 Most important-what are those new costly ideas club members will have to
pay for? Could you collaborate on NEW ideas for 2010 and 2011? Tell us a bit
about volunteering and 'public service portfolio'. So far nothing is in the
portfolio... As far as I remember, volunteering is free of charge, right?

 As a treasurer you have inherited club with strongest bank account EVER-
$4,496.81 and 66 members, in July 2009. Normally club would have no funds by
September and no one would be able to say where it's all gone...
 Please read KCDXC Constitution and follow it up. Treasurer have to tell
members about club funds monthly, if I remember right. 

 You have mentioned W0DXCC. It was decided that W0DXCC will go under KCDXC
supervision, but will not be sponsored by KCDXC, right? 
 K4SX was offering $2K(?) to sponsor event and K0RU have promised to
contribute $1K+, under some 'secret condition'. Nothing heard about either
contribution in WB0WBM W0DXCC reporting Mike have forwarded(?) to the club.
W0DXCC minutes are none existent, as well.  
 Without at least five other serious W0 clubs participation, W0DXCC is a
waste of time and money. Show for about 50 people KCDXC members have to work
for for few years. KCDXC should not participate along.

 Topic of membership dues and luck of communications/accountability was
raised by few members by now with no answers. Something needs to be done
about internal communications and way decisions are made in KCDXC.

 I will vote with my time, money and ideas. No clown show on leaving and
re-joining the club, this role is taken already :) One may guess what this
decision would be...

 There are plenty of Clubs to join, with agenda and ideas. 

 Good luck. Alex

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Jeff Blaine <Jeff.Blaine at epak.com> wrote:

> From: Jeff Blaine <Jeff.Blaine at epak.com>
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Fwd: K.C.DX Club Dues:
> To: "J Brown" <ks1ang at yahoo.com>, "KCDX 4FUN" <kcdxcforfun at byrg.net>,
"KCDX RealQTH" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 5:37 PM
> Barry,
> 
> It is my fault for making the motion that the dues should
> be increased.  This was raised and approved quite some
> number of months prior - I forget when - but last
> fall.  
> 
> I am the treasurer and the keeper of the few coins the club
> has.  The bank balance has been published in the
> newsletter from time to time.  I'm sure as an observant
> guy you have seen it.
> 
> You are right, the clubs costs - assuming it did nothing
> new - are about unchanged, if not slightly less.
> 
> However, the club also has many interests to expand both
> the club activities vs. the past - and to push our club up a
> step in both membership and visibility.  
> 
> These things necessarily will create some costs.  You
> can see the flurry of W0DXCC activity as just the first of
> these endeavors.
> 
> Another way to look at - $5/year comes down to something
> like a penny per day.  
> 
> Another way to look at it - dues have been unchanged for 30
> years yet the devaluation of the dollar in inflation
> adjusted terms has taken a toll - so I am pretty sure that
> $20 we are paying now probably has less actual buying power
> than $15 did 30 years ago. 
> 
> Another way to look at it - in the event the $5 is proving
> a hardship for a member, we have several individual who have
> already volunteered to step in and provide assistance should
> that be needed.
> 
> Lastly, if you would like to get more involved on the
> expense and funding side, I would very much welcome a
> volunteer such as yourself.  A guy with the public
> service portfolio you have may be interested in just such an
> added adventure?  If so, let me know!!!
> 
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of J Brown
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 17:18
> To: KCDX 4FUN; KCDX RealQTH
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Fwd: K.C.DX Club Dues:
> 
> Well Judy WON'T be bringing it up at the next meeting. I
> think EVERYBODY had there chance to voice there concerns and
> vote. Not my fault if people don't attend the meetings or
> keep up with what is going on, information was provided to
> everybody. 
> 
>  Judith Brown
> KS1ANG, KCDXC Secretary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "W0LHK at aol.com"
> <W0LHK at aol.com>
> To: ks1ang at yahoo.com;
> n0ag at yahoo.com; ac0n at arrl.net
> Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 2:28:39 PM
> Subject: Fwd: K.C.DX Club Dues:
> 
> Hi Bob:
>  
> I have some Issues with the Increase in the Membership 
> Dues !
>  
> It had been $ 15.00 for 30 plus years and this 
> Included the Newsletter being Mailed to all current 
> members.
>  
> I personally feel the Dues should be kept the same as 
> it had been.
>  
> There is Zero expense for Postage since there are no 
> more mailings of the Newsletter.
>  
> Perhaps the club should have a ( Associate Membership 
> ) no voting privileges but still listed on the roaster and
> access to the 
> Internet newsletter.
>  
> There should also be a treasures report put on line so 
> the members can see how much is in the Club account and
> what 
> expenses.
>  
> You and Judy should bring this Issue up at the next 
> meeting.
>  
> 73's,
>  
> Barry 
> 
> 
>       
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