[KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC Meeting-JoCo Library.
Alex, KU1CW
ku1cw at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 24 23:21:04 EDT 2009
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--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Jeff Blaine <Jeff.Blaine at epak.com> wrote:
> From: Jeff Blaine <Jeff.Blaine at epak.com>
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC Meeting-JoCo Library.
> To: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>, "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:49 PM
> Alex,
>
> 1. Please refer to the dictionary and consider the
> definition of the word "condescending." Your mails
> drip with it; perhaps you are not aware.
>
> 2. Why did you say the future meetings will be held at K0GQ
> and not at the library? I've asked this question 3
> times now...
>
> 3. Why did you decide just today to have the meeting at
> K0GQ and not Monday? Is that the action of a guy
> considering the convenience of the membership?
>
> 3. Regarding Rob, let me help you here:
>
> Your position as a great leader would be "yes, it's
> unfortunate he decided to leave - it's a great loss to the
> club. And I wish him well." That is a reply with
> style and grace.
>
> On the other hand, your personal opinion of him - SHOULD
> NEVER BE EXPRESSED. A leader needs to remain neutral
> about the personalities of his membership. This does
> not mean you need to love the guy. Even if you may
> have 0.0% good things to say.
>
> Stop talking smack about other people. It makes you
> look weak, insecure and hurts your ability to lead because
> this negatively impacts your reputation and the trust the
> club members have. This is not the first time I've
> told you this. It's not the way people like to be
> treated.
>
> 4. Yes the club is growing. And getting better.
> This is driven by the new location and the fact that there
> are some programs being presented giving people a reason to
> go. Good job there. And please do give me a
> break about "not noticing any improvement" - I've given two
> of these presentations myself.
>
> 5. On the Treasurer role. I believe you are asking me
> if I remain comfortable with the financial and legal
> obligations of stewarding the clubs finances - when I
> personally believe the club president has an agenda that is
> not aligned with the best interests of the club? No,
> of course not. If the direction continues, it won't be
> long before a battle ensues over the club $$ and I don't
> want to be in the middle of that mess.
>
> 6. So yes, a new vote to extend Mike's role as Treasurer
> should be held at the next meeting with the proper notice as
> required by the constitution. We are lucky that he has
> agreed to serve till the end of the year.
>
> 7. Are you confident of universal love and admiration for
> your leadership? Excellent. Put your fate in the
> hands of the membership. Call for a vote of
> confidence, as the Brits do, and then you will know if you
> do have the membership's support.
>
> If you are successful, then I will be happy to take my
> leave of the KCDX club and be a bother no more. With
> full apologies for waiting bandwidth and time. And in
> the event you are not successful, the VP of the club can
> assume the Presidential role until elections are arranged in
> a few more months.
>
> We are having a crisis of leadership, Alex. And as
> the president, you should be looking at what you can do to
> improve the situation. Assigning blame to others,
> making personal decisions in a vacuum, and avoiding
> responsibility - it's at the heart of this issue. Look
> inward for the answer. It's a shame to have this
> discussion in a public forum but you simply ignore personal
> appeals. Of course, I could be wrong - and I may be
> the only guy in the entire club with this position.
>
> 73/Jeff/ac0c
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex, KU1CW [mailto:ku1cw at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:00 PM
> To: kcdxc; Jeff Blaine
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC Meeting-JoCo Library.
>
>
>
> Jeff,
> I hope that you know that ARRL Field Day is the main
> league event of the year and more club members participate
> in it is better, for many reasons. FD activities start
> Friday and end on Sunday, for many people. With meeting
> being following Monday it's too much. To understand about
> K0GQ location you should of read e-mail to the end were RARC
> original invitation is.
>
> In general-Jeff as usual...firework of words and
> excitement, but when it comes to do something little for the
> Club (treasurer) you are not there. I'm most likely
> busier than you are with work and still do plenty of stuff
> for the club. BTW-Rob was member of the club for few month
> of the last 15 years I'm with KCDXC-don't blame me for his
> character. Had issues with other clubs and reflectors just
> recently as well.
> You have been with a club for about a year yourself and
> you really did not see club growing and improving in any
> way? Strange.
> About W0DXCC-I stated my position clearly more than
> once-multiple W0 clubs and investors must be involved in
> order for this event to be successful. Anyways-you was busy
> for the club-will you find some time for the W0DXCC?
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Jeff Blaine <Jeff.Blaine at epak.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Jeff Blaine <Jeff.Blaine at epak.com>
> > Subject: Re: [KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC Meeting-JoCo
> Library.
> > To: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>,
> "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:51 PM
> > Alex,
> >
> > You my friend are one hell of a great contest op.
> > Zero question about that. I know of none better.
> > But when it comes to leading this club, your personal
> > aspirations and management style are causing your
> supporters
> > to question the legitimacy of this support. I am
> > struggling with this issue myself...
> >
> > With all due respect to you and the club, I just
> cannot
> > believe the ongoing nonsense. This is not the Alex
> > club. It's the KCDX club, with Alex as
> > president. The president serves the club; the club
> > does not serve the president.
> >
> > It is the responsibility of the club president as the
> #1
> > leader to ensure communications. To seek everyone's
> > participation. To work with club members in groups
> and
> > individually to develop a consensus. And to give
> each
> > and every member of this club, regardless of one's
> personal
> > opinion of that person, the feeling that they are a
> valued
> > and important part of the group.
> >
> > As club president, you have a higher standard of
> > performance expectation. And must conduct your
> affairs
> > in a more neutral manner than any other member of the
> > club. You come up with ideas and initiatives, and
> then
> > promote these ideas to get the endorsement of the
> > club. Not all ideas will be approved. But that's
> > the way this kind of thing is supposed to work.
> >
> > This ability is not the normal complement of skills a
> > top-grade engineer and intense competitive contest
> > op. So I am not attacking you for
> > shortcomings of personality, but simply pointing out
> the
> > implication of the direction we are moving. And
> > hopefully illustrating my point with a couple of
> > examples...
> >
> > How can the decision to move the meeting place be
> made
> > without the agreement of the club?
> >
> > If changing the location is a good idea, you should be
> on
> > the reflector stating your position, your reasons and
> trying
> > to get others to support it. The meeting location
> is
> > not some minor detail - it is a critical part of the
> clubs
> > business and not subject to change without the club's
> > endorsement.
> >
> > The idea of committing to use the K0GQ QTH follow on
> > location has not been explained either... Maybe
> this
> > is something that everyone in the club knows about and
> I am
> > the last in the line? Possible!
> >
> > The gang involved in the W0DXCC group has been talking
> to
> > anyone who will listen about drumming up support for
> this by
> > the club. As the clubs president, you should be
> > encouraging them to promote this discussion to the
> entire
> > club. To get the entire club comments. Below you
> > suggest it's some gang-of-10. Maybe there are 10
> guys
> > actively promoting that - but none of them are the
> club
> > president. Why is it that only now the subject is
> > getting some comment on the board? Why are you not
> out
> > at the front working on this issue - making your
> pro/con
> > arguments to the club as a whole?
> >
> > The announcement to the ARRL on the computer-only
> policy at
> > Dayton was made prior to the discussion at the
> club.
> > Another executive decision that should have involved
> the
> > club discussion? That mess caused the loss of the
> club
> > of one of the most suitable Elmer's in the area.
> Rob
> > is a combative SOB and I sure can imagine him wanting
> to
> > argue to the death. But as president, you cannot be
> > dragged down into the fight. And you should be
> taking
> > steps to pull this guy and others we may have lost
> back into
> > active participation in the club. We cannot lose a
> > single guy over personality issues related to the
> club
> > leadership.
> >
> > It is my observation that your personal agenda is
> causing
> > you to make choices that are not necessarily supported
> by
> > the club. And your instinct to belittle those who
> > disagree with you in email and personal discussions is
> very
> > unprofessional. You must be setting the standard
> for
> > proper conduct. Performing in a manner that the
> rest
> > of the club members can observe and say - "that is how
> I
> > should behave in this club."
> >
> > None of these things are happening. The club
> > membership is becoming more and more fragmented. We
> > have such great potential but the direction you are
> taking
> > us is away from unity. Not toward unity.
> >
> > Please do consider what your ultimate personal goals
> are,
> > and how they integrate with the club. And start
> acting
> > as a consolidating and unifying voice or consider
> resigning
> > your position. These are the only two actions that
> are
> > consistent with the club, it's membership and the
> vision
> > that we all share.
> >
> > Perhaps I am wrong in my facts, or in my
> > interpretation. If so, then I would stand corrected
> > and beg the membership's forgiveness for my
> ill-informed
> > pontification.
> >
> > But that's the way it looks from here.
> >
> > With respect to the club and to the president,
> >
> > 73/Jeff/ac0c
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > On Behalf Of Alex, KU1CW
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:52 PM
> > To: kcdxc
> > Subject: Re: [KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC Meeting-JoCo
> Library.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nancy Pickard study room was reserved today for the
> June
> > 29th meeting.
> >
> > Info/documents on W0DXCC should be available to
> all KCDXC
> > members, preferably via W0DXCC reflector, not only to
> 10
> > members in verbal form...
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Lee Ward <lee at crcltd.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Lee Ward <lee at crcltd.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC
> Meeting-JoCo
> > Library.
> > > To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 5:40 PM
> > > Alex,
> > >
> > > So are you saying that the room near the
> temporary
> > door is
> > > reserved for the
> > > KCDXC meeting on the 29th?
> > >
> > > If so, then we should have the meeting there.
> > >
> > > I believe our member with special needs can walk
> to
> > that
> > > room.
> > >
> > > And, you are wrong, there was plenty of
> information at
> > the
> > > W0DXCC meeting we
> > > had that you refused to acknowledge or attend.
> > >
> > > $15,
> > >
> > > Lee, K0LW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > > [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Alex, KU1CW
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:25 PM
> > > To: KCDXC at mailman.qth.net
> > > Subject: [KCDXC] June 29th KCDXC Meeting-JoCo
> > Library.
> > >
> > >
> > > Smaller room (Nancy Pickard room) at the JoCo
> > library was
> > > scheduled for the
> > > Monday June 29th KCDXC meeting-6.30-8.30pm.
> > >
> > > Agenda:
> > > -Field Day info
> > > -Discuss if and how KCDXC would like to be
> involved
> > with
> > > W0DXCC 2010.
> > >
> > > I still think that W0DXCC shall be organized
> by
> > few W0
> > > clubs and not only
> > > KCDXC- best talent need to be involved, working
> > committees
> > > organized, small
> > > investors involved etc, etc. So far-no
> information,
> > > hopefully we will see it
> > > next month after next W0DXCC.
> > > Thanks, Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, ku1cw at yahoo.com
> > > <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: ku1cw at yahoo.com
> > > <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: [KCDXC] June KCDXC Meeting-Raytown
> > Amateur
> > > Radio Club Field Day
> > > Invitation
> > > > To: "KCDXC at mailman.qth.net"
> > > <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>,
> > > "DR"
> > > <kg0us at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 9:10 PM
> > > >
> > > > KCDXC Members,
> > > > Field Day gathering at K0GQ (Sat. noon)
> will
> > be
> > > our
> > > > official meeting for the month of June. I
> was
> > waiting
> > > for
> > > > another location info, but K0GQ will be
> location
> > for
> > > the
> > > > KCDXC to meet together this year.
> > > > Please consider being there on Saturday
> > morning,
> > > but
> > > > Friday and Saturday nights probably will be
> even
> > > better and
> > > > will have more space for operators.
> > > > If you come on Saturday- at noon burgers
> and
> > hot
> > > dogs will
> > > > be cooked at noon-you have to operate 3
> hours SSB
> > and
> > > 1 HR
> > > > CW for it (hi-hi).
> > > >
> > > > Common over and operate from this fine FD
> > position-
> > > meet
> > > > our friend from RARC.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please contact Barbara or I if you have
> any
> > > questions.
> > > >
> > > > Very 73's and have some fun during ARRL
> Field
> > Day!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.arrl.org/contests/announcements/fd/
> > > >
> > > > Alex, KU1CW-KCDXC President.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sat, 6/20/09, DR <kg0us at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: DR <kg0us at sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > Subject: [KCDXC] Raytown Amateur Radio
> Club
> > Field
> > > Day
> > > > Invitation
> > > > > To: "KCDXC at mailman.qth.net"
> > > > <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > > Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 1:41 AM
> > > > >
> > > > > Please join us for the Field Day fun
> this
> > > weekend,
> > > > June
> > > > > 27th and 28th behind Raytown City Hall
> at
> > 10000
> > > East
> > > > 59th
> > > > > Street in Raytown, Missouri.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Field Day setup lunch will be 11:00
> AM
> > on
> > > Friday,
> > > > June
> > > > > 26th, at Las Chili's Mexican
> Restaurant
> > located
> > > at
> > > > 6210
> > > > > Raytown Trafficway in Raytown,
> Missouri.
> > The
> > > Field
> > > > Day
> > > > > setup will begin at 1 PM following
> lunch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Field Day operations will run
> continuously
> > from 1
> > > PM
> > > > on
> > > > > Saturday until 1 PM on Sunday. Field
> Day
> > teardown
> > > will
> > > > begin
> > > > > after 1 PM on Sunday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please use the Field Day Station
> Locator at
> > the
> > > > following
> > > > > link:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.arrl.org/contests/announcements/fd/locator.php
> > > > >
> > > > > Please enter "K0GQ" in the "Location
> or
> > Call
> > > Sign"
> > > > text
> > > > > box. Afterwards, click on the "Search
> for
> > Field
> > > Day
> > > > > Stations" command button. Detailed
> > information
> > > will
> > > > appear
> > > > > to the right of the map if you click on
> a
> > given
> > > > marker.
> > > > > The map allows the user to zoom in or
> out
> > and one
> > > can
> > > > even
> > > > > switch to satellite view.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please see the following links for our
> 2005
> > and
> > > 2007
> > > > > soapbox submittal with photographs at
> the
> > bottom
> > > of
> > > > each
> > > > > page:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.arrl.org/contests/soapbox/index.html?con_id=133&call=k0gq
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.arrl.org/contests/soapbox/index.html?con_id=90&call=k0gq
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope to see you or otherwise hear you
> on
> > the
> > > > bands during
> > > > > Field Day weekend,
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Barbara Rich, KGØUT
> > > > > President, Raytown Amateur Radio Club
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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