[KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC

Alex, KU1CW ku1cw at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 7 14:38:37 EDT 2009 

 Yea, it comes to KC from SW direction every time something new or meaningful is proposed...

-2009 Pileup with new tools was 100% sucess-just for pop #1.
-2008 and 2009 was #2 and @4 in attendance ever for #2

BTW-Should we send unused pencils to TX? (he-he)



--- On Sun, 6/7/09, rick barnett <rick at crcwireless.net> wrote:

> From: rick barnett <rick at crcwireless.net>
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
> To: "'Alex, KU1CW'" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>, "'kcdxc'" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>, "'don devins'" <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>
> Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:28 PM
> Anybody hear that Popping sound?
> rick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Alex, KU1CW
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: kcdxc; don devins
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
> 
> 
> Don,
>  We have said from the beginning at last meeting-no KCDXC
> funds to be used
> to sponsor event.
>  People or organizations sharing the work should share the
> profit-you are
> right. There are probably 10 people who may be interested
> in doing
> so-everyone one of them shall find $500-1000 to invest and
> share
> responsibilities and interest. W0DXCC shall get $5000 or
> more of own money
> and work with it. There are no need to take 'someones'
> money and by the end
> blame something or someone for failure to make any $$$ or
> loss. We just have
> seen US banks failures recently as an example. KCDXC don't
> have too much
> funds anyways. Interested party should work with $$$ in
> capitalistic, not
> "other" way. I'm all for W0DXCC, but not for KCDXC
> expense!
>  KCDXC may endorse event, but shall stay away from
> being  $$$ vested. This
> is HIGH financial risk event for NON profit organization
> like us. 
>  I guess we can have a tab on the WEB for the W0DXCC to be
> endorsed by
> KCDXC-there are no risk in doing so. Bill is quite busy man
> and I will leave
> it up to him.
> 
>  Profit...was there a profit from previous events? 
> Answer probably is NO. Just tickets and accommodations for
> guest speakers
> will take $4-5K+. With 150 attending, no flea market and in
> worse possible
> time picked for the event-there will be no desired level of
> attendance or
> profit. That is why all other clubs rejected proposal and
> MN guys trying to
> push it somewhere else. As I have replied to other member
> earlier:
> "I personally would go to Dayton for REAL fun. Small budget
> of $300 will do
> it-why substitute with something else  in W0 which is
> 15% in value for
> 'only' $200? Get it?"
> 
>  Why one need to travel to small event one month after
> world biggest event
> (Dayton) to hear about two year old K-3 or hear about some
> old DX
> -peditions? Go to Dayton and get the best for the same
> prize. Can't beat
> Dayton, period. 
>   Until 2008 KCDXC had $0 in treasure by
> September/November-and that was a
> tradition. We at least brake even now and know were funds
> coming from and
> going to. Thank you for the Excel SS you have made-it
> works. 
>  KCDXC goals is to expend membership and bring young people
> into hobbie
> while DX-ing or contesting. I don't see how W0 DXCC will
> help with either
> one. 
> Thanks, Alex-KCDXC President.
> 
> P.S. I would conduct event like this along with one of the
> exising flea
> markets/ARRL sposored events. The one at Ararat temple as
> an example? Good
> timing, flea market, ARRL endorsed, Dealers present. 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 6/7/09, don devins <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: don devins <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>
> > Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
> > To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 8:17 AM
> > 
> > Alex, I have some questions since your response
> sounded so
> > negative-----here goes:
> >  
> > 1. IS the KCDXC the sponsor or maybe will be at new
> > meeting, why not use the KCDXC reflector??  I always
> > thought the sponsor was free to choose assistance from
> other
> > clubs, etc as it desires.
> > 2. Also why not have a section of KCDXC website for
> the
> > W0DXCC convention if the club is sponsoring it??
> > 3. Point blank at you---are you against the KCDXC
> > sponsoring the W0DXCC convention??  It sure sounds
> like
> > it.  If so, please explain why.
> > 4.  IF not allowed to use the monies and treasury of
> the
> > KCDXC for the convention, does that mean any profits
> from
> > the convention also do not go to the KCDXC treasury
> after
> > the convention is over??  So it sounds like the
> people
> > doing the work can share the profits---right??
> > 
> > Thanks,
> >  
> > 
> > Don Devins, WD0BWM 
> > email: wd0bwm1 at swbell.net
> > 
> > 
> > No trees were knowingly harmed in any way during the
> > production and transmission of this message. A rather
> large
> > number of electrons were somewhat inconvenienced
> however.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Bob Roske <broske at hutchtel.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Bob Roske <broske at hutchtel.net>
> > Subject: Re: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
> > To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:15 AM
> > 
> > 
> > If you involve every DXer in the 0 district, you'll
> never
> > reach consensus on 
> > anything.
> > 
> > The last thing I need is one more reflector to
> subscribe
> > to.
> > 
> > Looks like the KCDXC members need to vote on what they
> want
> > to do.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Bob Roske, N0UF
> > KCDXC Member
> > Past Vice President, KCDXC
> > President, QCWA
> > Secretary, QCWA Upper Midwest Chapter 8 in MN
> > Member QCWA Chapter 35 in KC
> > Webmaster, Ensor Farm & Museum - W9BSP
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> > To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:56 PM
> > Subject: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 and KCDXC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Guys,
> > A lot of promo talk, but until now we all heard only
> one
> > voice talking 
> > about W0DXCC-and most likely it will not work like
> that,
> > isn't obvious? That 
> > was a tradition of the W0DXCC until now, to have
> three
> > equal co-chairs and 
> > no single self claimed chair. Keep it that way, since
> it's
> > W0 regional 
> > activity and not a club. For now I would propose AC0C
> and
> > AC0KN as a 
> > co-chairs. May be extended to five members and work as
> a
> > W0DXCC committee?
> > Also-one observation and reminder-W0DXCC need to  be
> > separate from 
> > KCDXC-financially and organizationally. W0DXCC need
> to
> > include all clubs of 
> > the organizing area as well (All KC clubs) in order
> to
> > organize something 
> > meaningful, not become just another extended 'new' 
> KCDXC
> > club meeting.
> > 
> > Another W0DXCC (byrg?) reflector should be created to
> cover
> > W0DXCC 
> > activities, with involvement of all W0
> hams.   Whoever
> > is interested in this 
> > activity need to subscribe-that will be going on for
> a
> > year! Same applies to 
> > the WEB-no KCDXC WEB need to be dedicated to this
> activity.
> > I know that not 
> > all KCDXC members want to be involved. Please create
> W0DXCC
> > reflector in 
> > next 10 days or so and try not to use official KCDXC
> > reflector in the 
> > future.
> > We have said at last meeting that "NO" KCDXC finances
> will
> > be involved and 
> > I will keep it that way. KCDXC may endorse
> W0DXCC...but
> > that depends on the 
> > future developments. No KCDXC finances at any point
> > though.
> > 
> > Proposed program at this point is no more than repeat
> of
> > the 5 month of the 
> > KCDXC meetings. Is it really what W0DXCC will be
> about?
> > Bring some talent 
> > from ALL W0 clubs+ and some really new ideas.
> > We will not dedicate all future meetings  of the
> KCDXC to
> > W0DXCC 
> > activities-W0 will have to have other place and
> meetings.
> > It is obvious that 
> > not all members are interested in participating.
> > Lee, please find another time and place for the
> W0DXCC
> > meetings. First 
> > Saturday of the month at 1200 at Perkins sounds like a
> plan
> > for now.
> > 
> > Club will take care on KCDXC treasurer position in
> working
> > order, thanks 
> > for the suggestion though. I officially did not hear
> from
> > Jeff yet, I think.
> > Mike have said few times that he don't want to be
> treasurer
> > and would like 
> > to do newsletter only. That is how Jeff's nomination
> came
> > along. Will try to 
> > meet Mikes request.
> > 
> > Thanks, Alex KU1CW-KCDXC President.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Lee Ward <lee at crcltd.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Lee Ward <lee at crcltd.com>
> > > Subject: [KCDXC] W0DXCC 2010 again
> > > To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:58 PM
> > > What a great meeting! This was the
> > > let's get together and decide if we think
> > > we want to maybe host W0DXCC 2010 on July 10,
> 2010.
> > The 10
> > > present were all
> > > in favor and look forward to an official vote at
> the
> > next
> > > meeting. Please,
> > > if there are reasons that you think we should not
> do
> > it,
> > > speak up at the
> > > next club meeting and let's talk about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Those in attendance and potential jobs were:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > N0AG Printing (tickets-flyers-shirts-hats)
> > >
> > > K0LW Chair
> > >
> > > WB0DWN Co-Chair
> > >
> > > KY0O Master of Ceremonies & talk in
> > >
> > > AB0X Treasurer
> > >
> > > KC0ZNI Security
> > >
> > > KC9JH
> > >
> > > AK0A Door Stop
> > >
> > > K0THN Transportation & Asst Audio Visual
> > >
> > > AC0C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Not there, but drafted:
> > >
> > > K0VBU Real Estate (Site negotiation)
> > >
> > > AC0KN Schlepper
> > >
> > > N0EUH Audio Visual Expert
> > >
> > > AC0A Card Checking
> > >
> > > These and many many more..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This was a great turnout for a spur of the
> moment
> > meeting.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The consensus is 100% positive to include some
> > volunteering
> > > for specific
> > > assignments and some that were not present were
> > drafted
> > > into various jobs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We request about an hour at the next meeting to
> talk
> > about
> > > it with those who
> > > could not be there today and to vote yea or nay.
> If we
> > go
> > > ahead, we are
> > > going to try to have W0DXCC specific meetings on
> > > Saturdays in the future so
> > > that K4SX can attend. I think it would also be
> proper
> > > to vote for a new
> > > club treasurer (I nominate AB0X) just to stay
> legit
> > since
> > > Jeff resigned.
> > > Reason? We need Mike to be the treasurer for the
> > W0DXCC
> > > also.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73, Lee, K0LW, possible Chair of the possible
> W0DXCC
> > 2010
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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