[KCDXC] Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
rick barnett
rick at crcwireless.net
Sat Jul 4 11:55:40 EDT 2009
I am surprised you could read Russian.
-----Original Message-----
From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Tom NM0N
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:40 AM
To: kcdxc at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
Wow. Not only is Judy in 100% violation, but she has excelled and gone
above the call of duty to achieve 1000% violation of the club's rules! Wow,
Judy, I'm impressed. Way to give 1000 percent! :)
Happy INDEPENDENCE Day everyone!
73,
Tom, NM0N
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Tom Baugh <tbaugh at kcweb.net> wrote:
> INTRESTING
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Alex, KU1CW
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:55 PM
> To: 'J Brown'; rick barnett; kcdxc
> Cc: 'kcdxcforfun'
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
>
>
> !!! 1000% violation of any independent comitee rules.!!!
>
> Judy has certainly violated all possible rules. What a shame. This
comitee
> can not be functioning anymore.
>
> By her 'independent' behavior she certainly deserved to be removed from
> being officer of the club.
> No DX-ing, no contesting, no input on the future and 100% dependent in
her
> opinion...
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/3/09, rick barnett <rick at crcwireless.net> wrote:
>
> > From: rick barnett <rick at crcwireless.net>
> > Subject: RE: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> > To: "'J Brown'" <n0nut at yahoo.com>, "'Alex, KU1CW'" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "'kcdxcforfun'" <kcdxcforfun at byrg.net>
> > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 9:22 PM
> >
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> > Way to go Judy, keep him from
> > screwing anything else up until
> > the real vote. I am glad he was elected under the old rules
> > of only one year in
> > office and not the new rules of a two year
> > office.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > $15
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: J Brown
> > [mailto:n0nut at yahoo.com]
> >
> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 8:53 PM
> >
> > To: Alex, KU1CW
> >
> > Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You obivously
> > don't know how to use your computer correctly, or know
> > what c/c means. What is
> > my problem with them being on the email? There not officers
> > of the club. Do you
> > post all of your emails to the club, no you just use those
> > 2 select few. And
> > why don't I send the minutes to you for approval,
> > because I don't trust you!
> > You will add your condescending remarks that aren't
> > needed to the minutes just
> > to try and save face. The club is trying to handle this
> > matter in a polite
> > manner by not adding a bunch of extra crap that's not
> > needed. To save your face
> > and the club's.
> >
> >
> >
> > BTW, I am sending this email to a select few of the people
> > in the club I like,
> > so they can see what is going on behind the scenes
> > too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > From: "Alex, KU1CW"
> > <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> >
> > To: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > Cc: Tom Laux <n0ag at yahoo.com>
> >
> > Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 4:35:23 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Judy,
> >
> > These people ARE committee members and Tom put them on
> > email to begin with on
> > 'Minutes' e-mail, not me.
> >
> >
> >
> > What is your problem with them being on e-mail?
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > P.S. You should of send minutes to me for approval-just
> > like before. Why you
> > have done it differently?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 7/3/09, J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> > > To: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 3:09 PM
> >
> > > Well since you have decided
> >
> > > once again to email this to people WHO ARE NOT
> > OFFICERS OF
> >
> > > THE CLUB, then I'm going to put the email on the
> >
> > > reflector for all to see and get there opinion also.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Comments welcome to anybody who can read this!!
> >
> > >
> >
> > > From:
> >
> > > "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > To: Tom
> >
> > > <n0ag at yahoo.com>;
> > M.Crabtree
> >
> > > <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>;
> > J
> > Brown
> >
> > > <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > Cc: Bill
> >
> > > Henderson <bill at hendersonkc.com>;
> > Duncan MacLachlan
> >
> > > <ku0dm.ks at gmail.com>
> >
> > > Sent: Friday,
> >
> > > July 3, 2009 10:56:49 AM
> >
> > > Subject: Re:
> >
> > > Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Judy,
> >
> > > The fact is-first motion was WITHDRAWN by AC0KN
> > and not
> >
> > > modified, than second motion was made and seconded by
> > the
> >
> > > same people. This fact need to be reflected
> > accurately, just
> >
> > > like constitution asks for.
> >
> > > "Many people" statement should not be
> > there, but
> >
> > > calls or names must to, if needed.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > To your wrongdoing comment. There are actually
> > no
> >
> > > wrongdoing by president per constitution or any other
> > moral
> >
> > > reason to remove. That was 'let's just
> > remove
> >
> > > with NO reason' motion. Looks like commission
> > first need
> >
> > > to look into legality of the motion to begin with.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I would ask commission to look at the content
> > and legality
> >
> > > of this motion.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Secretary don't need to come up with
> > witnesses, but
> >
> > > need accurately record what happened, president shall
> >
> > > approve notes. Other business was discussed as well.
> > Minutes
> >
> > > should be accurate or no minutes at all.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Alex
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > From: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> > > > To: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>,
> >
> > > "Tom" <n0ag at yahoo.com>,
> >
> > > "M.Crabtree" <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
> >
> > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:35 PM
> >
> > > > Actually Alex, I think I
> >
> > > > can come up with more than enough witnesses to
> > the
> >
> > > meeting
> >
> > > > that the original motion by AC0KN, (not AC0RN
> > which
> >
> > > that
> >
> > > > call sign does not exist),witnesses who were for
> > and
> >
> > > against
> >
> > > > the motion will testify too, the motion was
> > modified
> >
> > > from
> >
> > > > the original
> >
> > > motion to reflect the proper wording needed to
> >
> > > > send it to a vote. That was the reason for the
> > vote
> >
> > > that we
> >
> > > > had at the meeting.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Also as many many people mentioned the other
> > nite,
> >
> > > where in
> >
> > > > writing does it say that to make a motion to
> > impeach
> >
> > > a
> >
> > > > officer of the club you have to have a reason.
> > Yes for
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > > moral standards a reason would be nice, but
> > nowhere
> >
> > > does it
> >
> > > > say they have to. I think in future to keep
> > things up
> >
> > > and
> >
> > > > up, there will be some sort of electronic
> > recording
> >
> > > device
> >
> > > > at the meetings to keep things in perspective and
> > to
> >
> > > be
> >
> > > > referenced to if needed later, even if
> > it's
> >
> > > just for
> >
> > > > the simplest things. Or if members of the club
> > who do
> >
> > > not
> >
> > > > attend would like to here what was actually said.
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > From:
> >
> > > > "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > To: Wm.
> >
> > > LAUX
> >
> > > > <n0ag at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > Cc: Bill
> >
> > > > Henderson <bill at hendersonkc.com>;
> >
> > > Duncan
> >
> > > > <ku0dm at arrl.net>;
> >
> > > Judy Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>;
> >
> > > > Mike Crabtree <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
> >
> > > > Sent:
> >
> > > > Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:08:09 PM
> >
> > > > Subject: Re:
> >
> > > > Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Tom,
> >
> > > > We never put minutes on the WEB-was always
> > send
> >
> > > to
> >
> > > > official reflector-why different now? Should do
> >
> > > business
> >
> > > > just like before.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > We had discussed more than that-field day,
> >
> > > video of the FD
> >
> > > > and info from other FD positions. Lee had
> > proposed
> >
> > > some
> >
> > > > assignments, committees and information and told
> > club
> >
> > > that
> >
> > > > info will be sent to reflector. Need to be
> > reflected.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > First motion was made to impeach president
> > and
> >
> > > it was
> >
> > > > seconded as well, than it was withdrawn as no
> > reason
> >
> > > for
> >
> > > > impeachment was found. That MUST be reflected in
> >
> > > minutes.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I have opened and adjourned meeting as
> > well.
> >
> > > Per
> >
> > > > constitution VP conducts meetings when president
> > is
> >
> > > not
> >
> > > > present-president was present.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Also, I was approving all minutes
> > before-why
> >
> > > different
> >
> > > > now? Who decided so and why?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Alex
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Wm. LAUX <n0ag at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > From: Wm.
> >
> > > > LAUX <n0ag at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > > Subject: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> > > > > To: "Alex Tkatch" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > > Cc: "Bill Henderson" <bill at hendersonkc.com>,
> >
> > > > "Duncan" <ku0dm at arrl.net>,
> >
> > > > "Judy Brown" <n0nut at yahoo.com>,
> >
> > > > "Mike Crabtree" <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
> >
> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:32 PM
> >
> > > > > Alex:Attached are the minutes
> >
> > > > > from Monday nite. These will not be
> > posted
> >
> > > on
> >
> > > > the
> >
> > > > > reflector or the website until
> >
> > > Monday or Tuesday (I
> >
> > > > would
> >
> > > > > like to have them
> >
> > > > on the website first).
> >
> > > > > I would like to make the point that the
> >
> > > > > committee is not an arbitrating body.
> > We
> >
> > > are
> >
> > > > simply trying
> >
> > > > > to make sure the vote for your retention or
> >
> > > removal is
> >
> > > > fair
> >
> > > > > and beyond reproach.73, Tom...N0AG
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, J Brown
> >
> > > > > <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > From: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > > Subject: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> >
> > > > > To: "Tom" <n0ag at yahoo.com>
> >
> > > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:34 AM
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > KCDX
> >
> > > > > CLUB
> >
> > > > > Meeting
> >
> > > Minutes
> >
> > > > > 6/29/2009
> >
> > > > > I. Call to order
> >
> > > > > Alex KU1CW called to order the regular
> > meeting of
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > > KCDX
> >
> > > > > Club at 1835 hrs on 6/29/2009 in Johnson
> > Co.
> >
> > > > Library.
> >
> > > > > II. Roll call
> >
> > > > > NØNUT
> >
> > > > > AB0X
> >
> > > > > K0THN
> >
> > > > > K0VGB
> >
> > > > > KC9JH
> >
> > > > > AC0KN
> >
> > > > > W7KU
> >
> > > > > K0VXU
> >
> > > > > K0VBU
> >
> > > > > N0EUH
> >
> > > > > K0BRO
> >
> > > > > N0AG
> >
> > > > > KC0ZNI
> >
> > > > > WD0BWM
> >
> > > > > W0ROO
> >
> > > > > KA0BKT
> >
> > > > > K0LW
> >
> > > > > KU0DM
> >
> > > > > KU1CW
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > III. Approval of minutes from last meeting
> >
> > > > > IV. Open issues
> >
> > > > > a) Feasibility Committee established for
> > the
> >
> > > purpose
> >
> > > > to
> >
> > > > > look at the possibility of organizing and
> > hosting
> >
> > > the
> >
> > > > W0DXCC
> >
> > > > > convention next year is feasible for the
> > KCDX
> >
> > > Club.
> >
> > > > Members
> >
> > > > > of
> >
> > > the Committee are- K0LW, WD0DWM are co- chair,
> >
> > > > AB0X,
> >
> > > > > AC0KN, and K0VBU. They will report back to
> > the
> >
> > > club
> >
> > > > with
> >
> > > > > their findings.
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > V. New business
> >
> > > > > c) A motion was made
> >
> > > > > by AC0KN and seconded to
> >
> > > > > remove Alex (KU1CW) as president of the
> > KCDX
> >
> > > Club. In
> >
> > > > > accordance with By-Laws, a quorum being
> > present,
> >
> > > a
> >
> > > > vote
> >
> > > > > was
> >
> > > > > taken, 8 FOR & 6 AGAINST. And a
> >
> > > majority
> >
> > > > voted to
> >
> > > > > present the issue to the full KCDX Club
> >
> > > membership for
> >
> > > > a
> >
> > > > > vote. As specified in the
> >
> > > > > constitution under article III.VI and By-Law
> >
> > > 7
> >
> > > > a 3/4
> >
> > > > > majority of the votes received from the
> > club
> >
> > > members
> >
> > > > is
> >
> > > > > required to remove an officer of the club.
> > A
> >
> > > committee
> >
> > > > was
> >
> > > > > formed to oversee
> >
> > > the voting procedure and that
> >
> > > > committee
> >
> > > > > will report to the Secretary. The committee
> > will
> >
> > > > be
> >
> > > > > chaired
> >
> > > > > by Tom (N0AG) VP and have the following
> > members:
> >
> > > Bill
> >
> > > > > (K0VBU), Duncan (KU0DM), Mike (AB0X) TREAS
> > and
> >
> > > Judy
> >
> > > > > (N0NUT)
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > VI. Adjournment
> >
> > > > > N0AG adjourned the meeting at 2100 hrs.
> >
> > > > > Minutes submitted by: NØNUT
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> > > > > Minutes approved by: N0AG
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