[KCDXC] Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
Tom Baugh
tbaugh at kcweb.net
Sat Jul 4 11:19:11 EDT 2009
INTRESTING
-----Original Message-----
From: kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:kcdxc-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Alex, KU1CW
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:55 PM
To: 'J Brown'; rick barnett; kcdxc
Cc: 'kcdxcforfun'
Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
!!! 1000% violation of any independent comitee rules.!!!
Judy has certainly violated all possible rules. What a shame. This comitee
can not be functioning anymore.
By her 'independent' behavior she certainly deserved to be removed from
being officer of the club.
No DX-ing, no contesting, no input on the future and 100% dependent in her
opinion...
--- On Fri, 7/3/09, rick barnett <rick at crcwireless.net> wrote:
> From: rick barnett <rick at crcwireless.net>
> Subject: RE: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
> To: "'J Brown'" <n0nut at yahoo.com>, "'Alex, KU1CW'" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'kcdxcforfun'" <kcdxcforfun at byrg.net>
> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 9:22 PM
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> Way to go Judy, keep him from
> screwing anything else up until
> the real vote. I am glad he was elected under the old rules
> of only one year in
> office and not the new rules of a two year
> office.
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> Rick
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> From: J Brown
> [mailto:n0nut at yahoo.com]
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> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 8:53 PM
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> To: Alex, KU1CW
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> Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
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> You obivously
> don't know how to use your computer correctly, or know
> what c/c means. What is
> my problem with them being on the email? There not officers
> of the club. Do you
> post all of your emails to the club, no you just use those
> 2 select few. And
> why don't I send the minutes to you for approval,
> because I don't trust you!
> You will add your condescending remarks that aren't
> needed to the minutes just
> to try and save face. The club is trying to handle this
> matter in a polite
> manner by not adding a bunch of extra crap that's not
> needed. To save your face
> and the club's.
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> BTW, I am sending this email to a select few of the people
> in the club I like,
> so they can see what is going on behind the scenes
> too.
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> From: "Alex, KU1CW"
> <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
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> To: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
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> Cc: Tom Laux <n0ag at yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 4:35:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
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> Judy,
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> These people ARE committee members and Tom put them on
> email to begin with on
> 'Minutes' e-mail, not me.
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> What is your problem with them being on e-mail?
>
> Alex
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> P.S. You should of send minutes to me for approval-just
> like before. Why you
> have done it differently?
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> --- On Fri, 7/3/09, J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> > From: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
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> > Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
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> > To: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
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> > Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 3:09 PM
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> > Well since you have decided
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> > once again to email this to people WHO ARE NOT
> OFFICERS OF
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> > THE CLUB, then I'm going to put the email on the
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> > reflector for all to see and get there opinion also.
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> >
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> > Comments welcome to anybody who can read this!!
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> >
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> > From:
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> > "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
>
> > To: Tom
>
> > <n0ag at yahoo.com>;
> M.Crabtree
>
> > <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>;
> J
> Brown
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> > <n0nut at yahoo.com>
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> > Cc: Bill
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> > Henderson <bill at hendersonkc.com>;
> Duncan MacLachlan
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> > <ku0dm.ks at gmail.com>
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> > Sent: Friday,
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> > July 3, 2009 10:56:49 AM
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> > Subject: Re:
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> > Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
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> > Judy,
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> > The fact is-first motion was WITHDRAWN by AC0KN
> and not
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> > modified, than second motion was made and seconded by
> the
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> > same people. This fact need to be reflected
> accurately, just
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> > like constitution asks for.
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> > "Many people" statement should not be
> there, but
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> > calls or names must to, if needed.
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> >
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> >
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> > To your wrongdoing comment. There are actually
> no
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> > wrongdoing by president per constitution or any other
> moral
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> > reason to remove. That was 'let's just
> remove
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> > with NO reason' motion. Looks like commission
> first need
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> > to look into legality of the motion to begin with.
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> >
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> > I would ask commission to look at the content
> and legality
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> > of this motion.
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> >
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> > Secretary don't need to come up with
> witnesses, but
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> > need accurately record what happened, president shall
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> > approve notes. Other business was discussed as well.
> Minutes
>
> > should be accurate or no minutes at all.
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> >
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> > Alex
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> >
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> > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
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> > wrote:
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> >
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> > > From: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
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> > > Subject: Re: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
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> > > To: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>,
>
> > "Tom" <n0ag at yahoo.com>,
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> > "M.Crabtree" <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
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> > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:35 PM
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> > > Actually Alex, I think I
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> > > can come up with more than enough witnesses to
> the
>
> > meeting
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> > > that the original motion by AC0KN, (not AC0RN
> which
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> > that
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> > > call sign does not exist),witnesses who were for
> and
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> > against
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> > > the motion will testify too, the motion was
> modified
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> > from
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> > > the original
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> > motion to reflect the proper wording needed to
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> > > send it to a vote. That was the reason for the
> vote
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> > that we
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> > > had at the meeting.
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> > >
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> > > Also as many many people mentioned the other
> nite,
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> > where in
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> > > writing does it say that to make a motion to
> impeach
>
> > a
>
> > > officer of the club you have to have a reason.
> Yes for
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> > the
>
> > > moral standards a reason would be nice, but
> nowhere
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> > does it
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> > > say they have to. I think in future to keep
> things up
>
> > and
>
> > > up, there will be some sort of electronic
> recording
>
> > device
>
> > > at the meetings to keep things in perspective and
> to
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> > be
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> > > referenced to if needed later, even if
> it's
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> > just for
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> > > the simplest things. Or if members of the club
> who do
>
> > not
>
> > > attend would like to here what was actually said.
>
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> > >
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> > > From:
>
> > > "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
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> > > To: Wm.
>
> > LAUX
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> > > <n0ag at yahoo.com>
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> > > Cc: Bill
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> > > Henderson <bill at hendersonkc.com>;
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> > Duncan
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> > > <ku0dm at arrl.net>;
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> > Judy Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>;
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> > > Mike Crabtree <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
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> > > Sent:
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> > > Thursday, July 2, 2009 11:08:09 PM
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> > > Subject: Re:
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> > > Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > Tom,
>
> > > We never put minutes on the WEB-was always
> send
>
> > to
>
> > > official reflector-why different now? Should do
>
> > business
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> > > just like before.
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> > >
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> > > We had discussed more than that-field day,
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> > video of the FD
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> > > and info from other FD positions. Lee had
> proposed
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> > some
>
> > > assignments, committees and information and told
> club
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> > that
>
> > > info will be sent to reflector. Need to be
> reflected.
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> >
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> > >
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> > > First motion was made to impeach president
> and
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> > it was
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> > > seconded as well, than it was withdrawn as no
> reason
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> > for
>
> > > impeachment was found. That MUST be reflected in
>
> > minutes.
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> > >
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> > > I have opened and adjourned meeting as
> well.
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> > Per
>
> > > constitution VP conducts meetings when president
> is
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> > not
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> > > present-president was present.
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> > >
>
> > > Also, I was approving all minutes
> before-why
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> > different
>
> > > now? Who decided so and why?
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> > >
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> > > Alex
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Wm. LAUX <n0ag at yahoo.com>
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> > > wrote:
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> > >
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> > > > From: Wm.
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> > > LAUX <n0ag at yahoo.com>
>
> > > > Subject: Fw: 6/29/2009 Minutes
>
> > > > To: "Alex Tkatch" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
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> > > > Cc: "Bill Henderson" <bill at hendersonkc.com>,
>
> > > "Duncan" <ku0dm at arrl.net>,
>
> > > "Judy Brown" <n0nut at yahoo.com>,
>
> > > "Mike Crabtree" <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
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> > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:32 PM
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> > > > Alex:Attached are the minutes
>
> > > > from Monday nite. These will not be
> posted
>
> > on
>
> > > the
>
> > > > reflector or the website until
>
> > Monday or Tuesday (I
>
> > > would
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> > > > like to have them
>
> > > on the website first).
>
> > > > I would like to make the point that the
>
> > > > committee is not an arbitrating body.
> We
>
> > are
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> > > simply trying
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> > > > to make sure the vote for your retention or
>
> > removal is
>
> > > fair
>
> > > > and beyond reproach.73, Tom...N0AG
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> > > >
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> > > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, J Brown
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> > > > <n0nut at yahoo.com>
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> > > wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > > From: J Brown <n0nut at yahoo.com>
>
> > > > Subject: 6/29/2009 Minutes
>
> > > > To: "Tom" <n0ag at yahoo.com>
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> > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:34 AM
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> > > >
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> > > > KCDX
>
> > > > CLUB
>
> > > > Meeting
>
> > Minutes
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> > > > 6/29/2009
>
> > > > I. Call to order
>
> > > > Alex KU1CW called to order the regular
> meeting of
>
> > the
>
> > > KCDX
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> > > > Club at 1835 hrs on 6/29/2009 in Johnson
> Co.
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> > > Library.
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> > > > II. Roll call
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> > > > NØNUT
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> > > > AB0X
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> > > > K0THN
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> > > > K0VGB
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> > > > KC9JH
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> > > > AC0KN
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> > > > W7KU
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> > > > K0VXU
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> > > > K0VBU
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> > > > N0EUH
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> > > > K0BRO
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> > > > N0AG
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> > > > KC0ZNI
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> > > > WD0BWM
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> > > > W0ROO
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> > > > KA0BKT
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> > > > K0LW
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> > > > KU0DM
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> > > > KU1CW
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> > > >
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> > > > III. Approval of minutes from last meeting
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> > > > IV. Open issues
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> > > > a) Feasibility Committee established for
> the
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> > purpose
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> > > to
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> > > > look at the possibility of organizing and
> hosting
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> > the
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> > > W0DXCC
>
> > > > convention next year is feasible for the
> KCDX
>
> > Club.
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> > > Members
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> > > > of
>
> > the Committee are- K0LW, WD0DWM are co- chair,
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> > > AB0X,
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> > > > AC0KN, and K0VBU. They will report back to
> the
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> > club
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> > > with
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> > > > their findings.
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> > > >
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> > > > V. New business
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> > > > c) A motion was made
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> > > > by AC0KN and seconded to
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> > > > remove Alex (KU1CW) as president of the
> KCDX
>
> > Club. In
>
> > > > accordance with By-Laws, a quorum being
> present,
>
> > a
>
> > > vote
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> > > > was
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> > > > taken, 8 FOR & 6 AGAINST. And a
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> > majority
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> > > voted to
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> > > > present the issue to the full KCDX Club
>
> > membership for
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> > > a
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> > > > vote. As specified in the
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> > > > constitution under article III.VI and By-Law
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> > 7
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> > > a 3/4
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> > > > majority of the votes received from the
> club
>
> > members
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> > > is
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> > > > required to remove an officer of the club.
> A
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> > committee
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> > > was
>
> > > > formed to oversee
>
> > the voting procedure and that
>
> > > committee
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> > > > will report to the Secretary. The committee
> will
>
> > > be
>
> > > > chaired
>
> > > > by Tom (N0AG) VP and have the following
> members:
>
> > Bill
>
> > > > (K0VBU), Duncan (KU0DM), Mike (AB0X) TREAS
> and
>
> > Judy
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> > > > (N0NUT)
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> > > >
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> > > > VI. Adjournment
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> > > > N0AG adjourned the meeting at 2100 hrs.
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> > > > Minutes submitted by: NØNUT
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> > > > Minutes approved by: N0AG
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