Jim,
You have been out since 1982 (27 years) and know about club mostly by two days in Dayton or by occasional e-mail and it's not a real thing. Are you a member of any club in Texas? Must be. Which one? I really would like to know. I would like to take a look at their WEB and see if they use 'somehow existing' as words to describe normally functioning organization with the future. "There is little doubt that the club has been loosely ran for these past many year. But the club has somehow made it through all these years." Somehow, but you know pretty much about only 7 of them. I think since I was with club 14 years locally I may see a bit more and not by e-mail or telephone.
I was talking about your e-mail to me and not to Rob.
"Let me give you a huge piece of advice. Do not get sideways with the
founders of this fine club." ... and other 'advices'.
Listen, I don't need advices like that and really don't care about it in either way. Period. Not too nice? Sorry, it is well deserved in this particular case(s). I probably may use some constructive advices from you in the future.
Why after 35 years as a club member did not care about writing history of the club for new members to learn from? They will learn it 'somehow'? Sound too loose, but we will try to fix it in next few month.
I don't know what have you done for club in last 27 years? What was it?
I really tired to push this senseless e-mails back and force just to hear other accusations. Positive action with measurable results is a better way to confirm things. Time will show.
Alex
--- On Thu, 1/8/09, jim at walkersdomain.com <jim at walkersdomain.com> wrote:
> From: jim at walkersdomain.com <jim at walkersdomain.com>
> Subject: RE: Kansas City DX Club
> To: ku1cw at yahoo.com
> Cc: woodrr at att.net, "'Wm. LAUX'" <n0ag at yahoo.com>, "'W0ZAP'" <w0zap at everestkc.net>, "'W0XK Perry McLean'" <w0xk at att.net>, W0ns at aol.com, w0mw at comcast.net, W0LHK at aol.com, w0bv at att.net, "'Tom NM0N'" <nm0n at arrl.net>, "'Tom Hammond'" <n0ss at embarqmail.com>, "'T E Isaacson'" <ikeisaacson at earthlink.net>, "'Steve Walz K0UO'" <stevew at rsicorp.com>, "'Steve Lufcy'" <k0ou at comcast.net>, "'Steve Gecewicz (MYedl)'" <lance at myedl.com>, "'rick barnett'" <rick at crcwireless.net>, pfcambel at micoks.net, NX0I at aol.com, "'N0ATH'" <n0ath at charter.net>, "'Missouri Guy'" <n0tt1 at juno.com>, "'Mike ZooLoo'" <aa0mz at yahoo.com>, "'Michael L. Bogard'" <kd0fw at att.net>, "'Marshall AA0FO'" <mrtoburen at sunflower.com>, lee at crcltd.com, "'Larry Wilson'" <K0RWL at YAHOO.COM>, "'L. Wilson'" <k0rwl at townsqr.com>, KI7WO-1 at comcast.net, "'Kevin Schavee'" <n0cwr at kc.rr.com>, "'KC0TjX Dan'" <doctordan8 at embarqmail.com>, k0lw at crcltd.com, "'John Rodgers'" <johnrodgers22 at att.net>, "'John Patterson WC0W'"
<WC0W at AOL.COM>, "'John K3FP'" <k3fp at hotmail.com>, "'John Chass W0JLC'" <johnchass at midlandradio.com>, JimRCessna at aol.com, "'Jim Smith'" <jimkirsti at ni.net.nf>, "'Jeff Blaine AC0C'" <ac0c at arrl.net>, "'Jan KC0IWK'" <janny66101 at yahoo.com>, "'James Arther W0NV'" <w6yj at pacbell.net>, "'J Brown'" <n0nut at yahoo.com>, gyantis at midtec.com, "'George Yantis'" <k0gy at swbell.net>, "'Fred N0XA'" <n0xa at embarqmail.com>, "'Dwayne K0LLS'" <K0LLS at arrl.net>, "'Dragan K0AP Davkovski'" <davkovski at yahoo.com>, "'Don Reed K0IFO'" <k0ifo at arrl.net>, "'don devins'" <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>, "'Dick Posz'" <rvposz at hotmail.com>, "'Cliff Ahrens'" <cahrens at mywdo.com>, "'Clark Stewart'" <w8tn.wv at gmail.com>, "'Charles Lovgren'" <clovgren at sunflower.com>, "'Bob Sutton N0GMG'" <N0GMG at yahoo.com>, "'Bill WS4Y'" <ws4y at arrl.net>, "'Bill Henderson'" <bill at hendersonkc.com>, "'Bernie W3UR'" <Bernie at dailydx.com>, bbrown at crcltd.com, "'barnett rick'" <barnett_rick at yahoo.com>, Arsk0jn at aol.com, "'ak0a'"
<ak0a at kc.rr.com>, k0ru at arrl.net, "'Bob Roske'" <broske at hutchtel.net>, "'Lee Ward'" <lee at crcwireless.net>, "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>, "KCDXC-for-fun" <KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:55 PM
> Alex,
>
> My email at the bottom of this thread of emails speaks for
> itself. You choose not to highlight the suggestions I make;
> instead report to others nothing in my emails are
> constructive. I will allow others in the club to reach
> their own conclusions.
>
> To reiterate the points I've made to you and Rob in
> prior emails were: most people don't like strong-arm
> tactics, most folks resist change but you don't realize
> that or choose to ignore it, the changes would be much
> better adopted and received if you got members to buy into
> your changes. Sometimes those buy-ins take time. You must
> have overlooked those comments.
>
> If you read carefully, you will find not once did I suggest
> things should remain as they have been. I was merely
> curious, if things have worked for over 35 years, why the
> rush to make changes at all cost. I just don't believe
> you are going about things correctly. It seems you have
> issues with accepting the opinions of others.
>
> That's all I have to say on the matter. The members
> can read my email to Rob at the bottom of this thread of
> emails and reach their own conclusion as to my purpose and
> intent. You will find those members who know me (not
> yourself) understand exactly where I'm coming from. You
> don' need to interpret my email for them.
>
> Jim
> KB0X
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: Kansas City DX Club
> From: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thu, January 08, 2009 8:11 pm
> To: k0ru at arrl.net, 'Bob Roske'
> <broske at hutchtel.net>, 'Lee Ward'
> <lee at crcwireless.net>, kcdxc
> <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>, KCDXC-for-fun
> <KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com>
> Cc: woodrr at att.net, "'Wm. LAUX'"
> <n0ag at yahoo.com>, 'W0ZAP'
> <w0zap at everestkc.net>, 'W0XK Perry McLean'
> <w0xk at att.net>,
> W0ns at aol.com, w0mw at comcast.net, W0LHK at aol.com,
> w0bv at att.net, 'Tom NM0N'
> <nm0n at arrl.net>, 'Tom Hammond'
> <n0ss at embarqmail.com>, 'T E Isaacson'
> <ikeisaacson at earthlink.net>, 'Steve Walz
> K0UO' <stevew at rsicorp.com>,
> 'Steve Lufcy' <k0ou at comcast.net>,
> "'Steve Gecewicz (MYedl)'"
> <lance at myedl.com>, 'rick barnett'
> <rick at crcwireless.net>,
> pfcambel at micoks.net, NX0I at aol.com, 'N0ATH'
> <n0ath at charter.net>,
> 'Missouri Guy' <n0tt1 at juno.com>, 'Mike
> ZooLoo' <aa0mz at yahoo.com>,
> "'Michael L. Bogard'"
> <kd0fw at att.net>, 'Marshall AA0FO'
> <mrtoburen at sunflower.com>, lee at crcltd.com, 'Larry
> Wilson'
> <K0RWL at YAHOO.COM>, "'L. Wilson'"
> <k0rwl at townsqr.com>,
> KI7WO-1 at comcast.net, 'Kevin Schavee'
> <n0cwr at kc.rr.com>, 'KC0TjX Dan'
> <doctordan8 at embarqmail.com>, k0lw at crcltd.com,
> 'John Rodgers'
> <johnrodgers22 at att.net>, 'John Patterson
> WC0W' <WC0W at AOL.COM>, 'John
> K3FP' <k3fp at hotmail.com>, 'John Chass
> W0JLC'
> <johnchass at midlandradio.com>, JimRCessna at aol.com,
> jim at walkersdomain.com, 'Jim Smith'
> <jimkirsti at ni.net.nf>, 'Jeff Blaine
> AC0C' <ac0c at arrl.net>, 'Jan KC0IWK'
> <janny66101 at yahoo.com>, 'James
> Arther W0NV' <w6yj at pacbell.net>, 'J
> Brown' <n0nut at yahoo.com>,
> gyantis at midtec.com, 'George Yantis'
> <k0gy at swbell.net>, 'Fred N0XA'
> <n0xa at embarqmail.com>, 'Dwayne K0LLS'
> <K0LLS at arrl.net>, 'Dragan K0AP
> Davkovski' <davkovski at yahoo.com>, 'Don Reed
> K0IFO' <k0ifo at arrl.net>,
> 'don devins' <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>, 'Dick
> Posz' <rvposz at hotmail.com>,
> 'Cliff Ahrens' <cahrens at mywdo.com>,
> 'Clark Stewart'
> <w8tn.wv at gmail.com>, 'Charles Lovgren'
> <clovgren at sunflower.com>, 'Bob
> Sutton N0GMG' <N0GMG at yahoo.com>, 'Bill
> WS4Y' <ws4y at arrl.net>, 'Bill
> Henderson' <bill at hendersonkc.com>, 'Bernie
> W3UR' <Bernie at dailydx.com>,
> bbrown at crcltd.com, 'barnett rick'
> <barnett_rick at yahoo.com>,
> Arsk0jn at aol.com, 'ak0a' <ak0a at kc.rr.com>
>
>
> I'm resident KCDXC member for last 14 years or so and
> considering myself an 'old timer'. May be an old
> timer capable of seeing how far behind KCDXC organization is
> compared to other amateur clubs and that this gap is not
> getting any smaller. For the Texan's-look at the clubs
> in Texas http://www.ctdxcc.org/ for example. If Jim W. would
> walk in and tell them to change what they have to KCDXC
> "35 year model" he would be asked to "shut
> the ... up" and go back to Kansas. I know those guys
> well.
>
> Go try it, tell us how it went, Jim. There are nothing
> progressive in your 'proposals'. Everything has
> changed in last 30 years-just look around. Do you have a
> cell phone? Why don't you get rid of it-it was not there
> 35 years ago either...
> Length of the membership is ABSOLUTELY no matter, in my
> opinion, if we are talking about change for better or
> something more constructive. EVERY member should be able to
> bring new proposals to be considered by the club members
> based on personal experience or experience of other similar
> organizations, and NOT to think about how 'old
> regime' will react on those - will accept, or reject on
> the spot with out even looking into it.
>
> Jim, KB0X, proposed no action other then 'save old
> regime' and I really don't know what the 'old
> regime' is.
> Regular Club meetings attendance increased from 10-12
> people to 20-25 in last few month and will be at the 30 by
> the end of 2009. People is free to join as well to leave any
> club(s), KCDXC included. So far they were joining the
> meetings.
> Among other things:
> ----Dayton 2008 participation was second best ever with
> only 3 behind the best.
> ----Club did not run out of money which did not happen for
> a while.
> ----People know what will happen at the meetings and can
> plan to attend or not based on their interest to the topics
> & and trust in the better organization for the years to come
> regardles of if the presedent is Alex or someone else who
> want to make positive changes, and not only 'survive for
> 30 years'.
> What's wrong with all of the above?
>
> I have received long e-mail from Jim as well and there are
> no constructive proposals in it - mainly anger against the
> change, intimidation and treats about consequences doing
> something new against 'old regime'.
>
> Jim, I have no interest in not constructive criticism and
> absolutely not intimidated by consequences of a proposed
> positive changes. Only time will show who was wrong or
> right-just re-open your e-mail in a year or two and see how
> little of your predictions have had happened.
>
> Club Members,
> I will be sending reminder and update for the Monday
> special meeting soon. Send to me or to the reflector any
> proposals to be discussed.
> 73. Alex, KU1CW. KCDXC President.
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Rob Underwood
> <runderwood6 at kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Rob Underwood <runderwood6 at kc.rr.com>
> > Subject: RE: Kansas City DX Club
> > To: k0ru at arrl.net, "'Bob Roske'"
> <broske at hutchtel.net>, "'Lee Ward'"
> <lee at crcwireless.net>, "'Alex,
> KU1CW'" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: woodrr at att.net, "'Wm. LAUX'"
> <n0ag at yahoo.com>, "'W0ZAP'"
> <w0zap at everestkc.net>, "'W0XK Perry
> McLean'" <w0xk at att.net>, W0ns at aol.com,
> w0mw at comcast.net, W0LHK at aol.com, w0bv at att.net,
> "'Tom NM0N'" <nm0n at arrl.net>,
> "'Tom Hammond'"
> <n0ss at embarqmail.com>, "'T E
> Isaacson'" <ikeisaacson at earthlink.net>,
> "'Steve Walz K0UO'"
> <stevew at rsicorp.com>, "'Steve
> Lufcy'" <k0ou at comcast.net>, "'Steve
> Gecewicz (MYedl)'" <lance at myedl.com>,
> "'rick barnett'"
> <rick at crcwireless.net>, pfcambel at micoks.net,
> NX0I at aol.com, "'N0ATH'"
> <n0ath at charter.net>, "'Missouri
> Guy'" <n0tt1 at juno.com>, "'Mike
> ZooLoo'" <aa0mz at yahoo.com>,
> "'Michael L. Bogard'"
> <kd0fw at att.net>, "'Marshall AA0FO'"
> <mrtoburen at sunflower.com>, lee at crcltd.com,
> "'Larry Wilson'" <K0RWL at YAHOO.COM>,
> "'L. Wilson'" <k0rwl at townsqr.com>,
> KI7WO-1 at comcast.net, "'Kevin Schavee'"
> <n0cwr at kc.rr.com>, KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com,
> "'KC0TjX Dan'"
> <doctordan8 at embarqmail.com>, k0lw at crcltd.com,
> "'John Rodgers'"
> <johnrodgers22 at att.net>, "'John
> Patterson WC0W'" <WC0W at AOL.COM>,
> "'John K3FP'" <k3fp at hotmail.com>,
> "'John Chass W0JLC'"
> <johnchass at midlandradio.com>, JimRCessna at aol.com,
> jim at walkersdomain.com, "'Jim Smith'"
> <jimkirsti at ni.net.nf>, "'Jeff Blaine
> AC0C'" <ac0c at arrl.net>, "'Jan
> KC0IWK'" <janny66101 at yahoo.com>,
> "'James Arther W0NV'"
> <w6yj at pacbell.net>, "'J Brown'"
> <n0nut at yahoo.com>, gyantis at midtec.com,
> "'George Yantis'" <k0gy at swbell.net>,
> "'Fred N0XA'" <n0xa at embarqmail.com>,
> "'Dwayne K0LLS'" <K0LLS at arrl.net>,
> "'Dragan K0AP Davkovski'"
> <davkovski at yahoo.com>, "'Don Reed
> K0IFO'" <k0ifo at arrl.net>, "'don
> devins'" <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>,
> "'Dick Posz'" <rvposz at hotmail.com>,
> "'Cliff Ahrens'"
> <cahrens at mywdo.com>, "'Clark
> Stewart'" <w8tn.wv at gmail.com>,
> "'Charles Lovgren'"
> <clovgren at sunflower.com>, "'Bob Sutton
> N0GMG'" <N0GMG at yahoo.com>, "'Bill
> WS4Y'" <ws4y at arrl.net>, "'Bill
> Henderson'" <bill at hendersonkc.com>,
> "'Bernie W3UR'"
> <Bernie at dailydx.com>, bbrown at crcltd.com,
> "'barnett rick'"
> <barnett_rick at yahoo.com>, Arsk0jn at aol.com,
> "'ak0a'" <ak0a at kc.rr.com>
> > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 3:08 PM
> > Jim,
> >
> > I’m sorry your seeing things this way. That’s too
> bad
> > really, because if
> > you were attending the club meetings you just might
> have
> > seen things
> > differently.
> >
> > Words of wisdom from someone who knows nothing about
> > what’s going on at the
> > meetings. On several occasion, things were brought up
> > about the direction
> > of the club and where it should go forward. And
> > Repeatedly it's been
> > Stonewalled by Lee and some friends of his.
> >
> > Hell I don’t know what’s best for the club one way
> or
> > the other, what I do
> > know is I’m a paid dues member and I have a say in
> the
> > direction of the club
> > just as anyone else does no matter how long you or
> them
> > have been a member
> > or nonmember… My vote from day one counts just like
> yours
> > from the time you
> > deposited my dues check..
> >
> > Time will tell and if those who chose to take a
> different
> > path (sad it be
> > that way instead of working things out) then maybe
> that’s
> > the best thing for
> > them and the club.
> >
> > 73 – K0RU - Rob
> >
> > From: jim at walkersdomain.com
> [mailto:jim at walkersdomain.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:32 PM
> > To: Rob Underwood
> > Subject: [FWD: RE: Kansas City DX Club]
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > I do not believe you and I have ever met in person.
> >
> > I go back with the KCDXC to 1978, 30 years ago. I was
> a
> > local member until
> > 1985 when I moved from the KC area. I was President of
> the
> > club in 1983.
> >
> > There is little doubt that the club has been loosely
> ran
> > for these past many
> > year. But the club has somehow made it through all
> these
> > years. There have
> > been times when we prospered and times when we did
> not.
> > Again, somehow we
> > made it through the hard times.
> >
> > I will not go as far as to say that the club could not
> use
> > more structure.
> > But from the outside looking in, it appears that a few
> > members want to
> > change things, change them now and the changes they
> want to
> > make are
> > monumental compared to how we have successfully ran
> this
> > club for over three
> > decades.
> >
> > So when I see someone like Alex and his supporter(s)
> come
> > along like knights
> > in shining armour not only wanting to make change but
> make
> > change at all
> > cost, it truly concerns me.
> >
> > There is a way to promote change. Its called gaining
> > approval or buy-in
> > from the members. Not ramming it down their throats.
> >
> > The recent actions concerning Alex not depositing the
> check
> > from the
> > proceeds of the radio sale have divided the membership
> at
> > best. You seem to
> > be supportive of Alex's actions in that vain.
> I've
> > not seen many, if any
> > others, who have come out in full support of
> Alex's
> > position on why he
> > didn't handle the transaction the way it should
> have
> > been handled.
> >
> > All I've seen out of Alex and yourself is a bunch
> of
> > hand-waving tactics
> > calling on the membership to rally around Alex so all
> these
> > changes can be
> > made to the constitution. Rather than focus on the
> matter
> > that actually
> > caused the ruckus to begin with.
> >
> > What is apparent to me out of all this is that Alex,
> > yourself and perhaps
> > some others who remain silent, want to point fingers
> and
> > divide the
> > membership between those who wish to have change at
> all
> > cost and those who
> > are saying, "Change, what change do we need?
> After
> > all, we've held this
> > club together for over 30 years operating the way we
> do
> > today." And you
> > know something that's an excellent point.
> >
> > What needs to happen now, is Alex needs to calm the
> waters.
> > And as they say
> > in government, he needs to extend a hand across the
> aisle.
> > Rather then
> > demonstrate discontent and perhaps mallous toward the
> old
> > regime and ways of
> > doing things, he needs to accept them. Then, as he is
> able
> > to gain buy-in
> > from the membership, he can take baby-steps to make
> the
> > changes that are
> > endorsed by the majority. But the way in which he
> handled
> > the depositing of
> > the check deal, demonstrates that he doesn't care
> > whether those who are the
> > stalwarts of this club stayed and contributed to the
> > betterment of the club,
> > or left the club.
> >
> > Hell, if I were Mike Crabtree, Lee Ward, or even Rick
> > Barnett from some of
> > the emails I have read, I would tell Alex and his
> > supporter(s) to fuck-off
> > and let him/them run the show all by
> himself/themselves.
> > If that happened,
> > I can assure you those three would only be the first
> to
> > depart with many to
> > follow. I can look down the roster and count double
> digits,
> > of the number of
> > members who are scratching their heads wondering
> what's
> > going on. Now if
> > that's what Alex and his supporter(s) want, then
> Alex
> > needs to keep on just
> > like he has. If he wants the support of the old
> regime, he
> > needs to adopt
> > different tactics.
> >
> > I saw several of the emails between Alex and Mike from
> the
> > December time
> > frame that were not distributed to the masses. I
> don't
> > know Alex that well.
> > I've met him and chatted with him. However, if I
> were
> > to form an opinion of
> > Alex simply from those emails I would have to classify
> him
> > as pompous,
> > arrogant, self-centered and tunnel-visioned without a
> trace
> > of
> > inter-personal skills. That needs to change.
> >
> > In closing I'll just reiterate the main point of
> this
> > email. There is a
> > right and wrong way to do things. More time needs to
> be
> > spent by Alex and
> > some others thinking about the right way to do things
> and
> > then revise the
> > current plan.
> >
> > That's my advice. Take it for whatever you want.
> >
> > Jim Walker
> > KBØX
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: Kansas City DX Club
> > From: "Rob Underwood"
> > <runderwood6 at kc.rr.com>
> > Date: Thu, January 08, 2009 1:32 pm
> > To: "'Bob Roske'"
> > <broske at hutchtel.net>, <k0ru at arrl.net>,
> > "'Lee Ward'"
> > <lee at crcwireless.net>, "'Alex,
> > KU1CW'" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: <woodrr at att.net>, "'Wm.
> LAUX'"
> > <n0ag at yahoo.com>, "'W0ZAP'"
> > <w0zap at everestkc.net>, "'W0XK Perry
> > McLean'" <w0xk at att.net>,
> > <W0ns at aol.com>, <w0mw at comcast.net>,
> > <W0LHK at aol.com>, <w0bv at att.net>,
> > "'Tom NM0N'" <nm0n at arrl.net>,
> > "'Tom Hammond'"
> > <n0ss at embarqmail.com>, "'T
> > E Isaacson'"
> <ikeisaacson at earthlink.net>,
> > "'Steve Walz K0UO'"
> > <stevew at rsicorp.com>, "'Steve
> > Lufcy'" <k0ou at comcast.net>,
> "'Steve
> > Gecewicz (MYedl)'" <lance at myedl.com>,
> > "'rick barnett'"
> > <rick at crcwireless.net>,
> <pfcambel at micoks.net>,
> > <NX0I at aol.com>, "'N0ATH'"
> > <n0ath at charter.net>, "'Missouri
> > Guy'" <n0tt1 at juno.com>, "'Mike
> > ZooLoo'"
> > <aa0mz at yahoo.com>, "'Michael L.
> > Bogard'" <kd0fw at att.net>,
> "'Marshall
> > AA0FO'" <mrtoburen at sunflower.com>,
> > <lee at crcltd.com>, "'Larry
> Wilson'"
> > <K0RWL at YAHOO.COM>, "'L.
> Wilson'"
> > <k0rwl at townsqr.com>,
> > <KI7WO-1 at comcast.net>, "'Kevin
> > Schavee'" <n0cwr at kc.rr.com>,
> > <KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com>, "'KC0TjX
> > Dan'" <doctordan8 at embarqmail.com>,
> > <k0ru at arrl.net>, <k0lw at crcltd.com>,
> > "'John Rodgers'"
> > <johnrodgers22 at att.net>, "'John
> Patterson
> > WC0W'" <WC0W at AOL.COM>, "'John
> > K3FP'" <k3fp at hotmail.com>,
> "'John
> > Chass W0JLC'"
> > <johnchass at midlandradio.com>,
> > <JimRCessna at aol.com>,
> > <jim at walkersdomain.com>, "'Jim
> > Smith'" <jimkirsti at ni.net.nf>,
> > "'Jeff
> > Blaine AC0C'" <ac0c at arrl.net>,
> > "'Jan KC0IWK'"
> > <janny66101 at yahoo.com>,
> > "'James Arther W0NV'"
> > <w6yj at pacbell.net>, "'J
> Brown'"
> > <n0nut at yahoo.com>,
> > <gyantis at midtec.com>, "'George
> > Yantis'" <k0gy at swbell.net>,
> "'Fred
> > N0XA'"
> > <n0xa at embarqmail.com>, "'Dwayne
> > K0LLS'" <K0LLS at arrl.net>,
> "'Dragan
> > K0AP
> > Davkovski'" <davkovski at yahoo.com>,
> > "'Don Reed K0IFO'"
> <k0ifo at arrl.net>,
> > "'don devins'"
> > <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>, "'Dick
> Posz'"
> > <rvposz at hotmail.com>,
> > "'Cliff Ahrens'"
> > <cahrens at mywdo.com>, "'Clark
> > Stewart'"
> > <w8tn.wv at gmail.com>, "'Charles
> > Lovgren'" <clovgren at sunflower.com>,
> > "'Bob
> > Sutton N0GMG'" <N0GMG at yahoo.com>,
> > "'Bill WS4Y'" <ws4y at arrl.net>,
> > "'Bill
> > Henderson'" <bill at hendersonkc.com>,
> > "'Bernie W3UR'"
> > <Bernie at dailydx.com>, <bbrown at crcltd.com>,
> > "'barnett rick'"
> > <barnett_rick at yahoo.com>,
> <Arsk0jn at aol.com>,
> > "'ak0a'" <ak0a at kc.rr.com>
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Your absolutely correct, you can be part of the
> solution or
> > part of the
> > problem going forward.
> >
> > In no way did I say he DID NOT do those things, I said
> he
> > DID NOT give
> > CREDITE to all the PEOPLE who HELPED in
> > Getting those things accomplished... There is a
> > difference...
> >
> > Maybe that’s why our United States of America
> > Constitution begins with "WE
> > THE PEOPLE" and not "I THE PERSON".
> >
> > May of people I’m sure have given a lot of wonderful
> > blood, sweat and tears
> > to the KCDX Club all of which were most like given
> > From the heart... One of which was Tom Rose...
> >
> > It all wasn't done just by LEE...
> >
> > That’s all I'm pointing out
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob - K0RU
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Roske [mailto:broske at hutchtel.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:24 AM
> > To: k0ru at arrl.net; 'Lee Ward'; 'Alex,
> > KU1CW'
> > Cc: woodrr at att.net; 'Wm. LAUX';
> 'W0ZAP';
> > 'W0XK Perry McLean'; W0ns at aol.com;
> > w0mw at comcast.net; W0LHK at aol.com; w0bv at att.net;
> 'Tom
> > NM0N'; 'Tom Hammond'; 'T
> > E Isaacson'; 'Steve Walz K0UO'; 'Steve
> > Lufcy'; 'Steve Gecewicz (MYedl)';
> > 'rick barnett'; pfcambel at micoks.net;
> NX0I at aol.com;
> > 'N0ATH'; 'Missouri Guy';
> > 'Mike ZooLoo'; 'Michael L. Bogard';
> > 'Marshall AA0FO'; lee at crcltd.com; 'Larry
> > Wilson'; 'L. Wilson'; KI7WO-1 at comcast.net;
> > 'Kevin Schavee';
> > KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com; 'KC0TjX Dan';
> > k0ru at arrl.net; k0lw at crcltd.com;
> > 'John Rodgers'; 'John Patterson WC0W';
> > 'John K3FP'; 'John Chass W0JLC';
> > JimRCessna at aol.com; jim at walkersdomain.com; 'Jim
> > Smith'; 'Jeff Blaine AC0C';
> > 'Jan KC0IWK'; 'James Arther W0NV';
> 'J
> > Brown'; gyantis at midtec.com; 'George
> > Yantis'; 'Fred N0XA'; 'Dwayne
> K0LLS';
> > 'Dragan K0AP Davkovski'; 'Don Reed
> > K0IFO'; 'don devins'; 'Dick Posz';
> > 'Cliff Ahrens'; 'Clark Stewart';
> > 'Charles
> > Lovgren'; 'Bob Sutton N0GMG'; 'Bill
> > WS4Y'; 'Bill Henderson'; 'Bernie
> W3UR';
> > bbrown at crcltd.com; 'barnett rick';
> Arsk0jn at aol.com;
> > 'ak0a'
> > Subject: Kansas City DX Club
> >
> > It's difficult to have an election when no more
> that
> > one person can be found
> >
> > to run for a position at any given time.
> >
> > I don't remember who was President before Tom
> Rose, but
> > I know Tom went to
> > the bathroom and was president when he returned. When
> Tom
> > stepped down, Lee
> >
> > was the only person to step forward. I suspect the Lee
> to
> > Alex transition
> > was about the same.
> >
> > I don't remember who was VP before me, but when
> Lee
> > asked for volunteers I
> > was the only one.
> >
> > Rick was the treasure from sometime before I joined in
> 1993
> > until moved.
> > Mike took over because no one else stepped up.
> >
> > The secretary position has been almost non-existent
> because
> > no one wanted to
> >
> > do it.
> >
> > I have no idea how long Mike has been the newsletter
> > editor.
> >
> > As you can see, there is a real pattern here. This
> pattern
> > is also the
> > reason we lost the Incoming Zero Bureau, No
> Volunteers!
> >
> > Alex has called a special meeting. You have two
> choices, be
> > part of the
> > solution or be part of the problem. I hope you select
> the
> > former.
> >
> > By the way, Lee did do all that stuff and not for
> himself
> > but for the club.
> > To suggest some other motivation indicates you may not
> know
> > Lee very well.
> >
> > I didn't see my call on the membership list, guess
> > I'd better send in my
> > dues.
> >
> > gl, 73 es cu at Dayton!
> >
> > Bob Roske, NØUF
> > Hutchinson, MN
> > Member KCDXC since 1993
> > VP KCDXC 1997 - 2005
> > President, Quarter Century Wireless Association
> > Public Information Officer, MN Section ARRL
> > 1st Place, 2008 Colorado QSO Party, Out of State -
> Phone -
> > Low Pwr - Single
> > Op - Mobile