[KCDXC] Serious Financial Concern + Annual report

[Alex, KU1CW]

Same applies to the matter in Mike's letter:

Club members,
I was working in the contest this weekend and had some things to be done after RTTY fun, so had no plans to work on e-mails. Was quite a surprise in many ways to see reverse of the long private exchange into public matter and someone trying to say that I took club's money. Irresponsible, to say the least-especially without knowing details of the issues-sale in particular.  
I will call special meeting to discuss issue as soon as space available and before next club meeting.

Lee,
You should keep private e-mails in Private and if presented to others (with permission)-then without cuts of the important questions. This is not right.
Part Lee has removed from "flatly refusing" e-mail below:

  "P.S. I have asked you to help with organization and so far you have refused. You have been against better accounting? Why? Do not sound right."

Eight (!) week private effort to change things to how others club doing it is out, so let's see...  

I was told that we keep track of the annual membership by the club roaster. One who paid dues-get name on the roaster:). This issue is strictly KCDXC matter and not all of the people on CC: are on the club roaster... 
Probably another good example of possible improvement in accounting? Hope everyone agrees. 

Matter is very simple and was NOT in any way (at least when it started) related to sale of the K0ZM equipment. Equipment sale broad here to make issue a bit fuzzier just 2-3 weeks ago.
BTW-radio was delivered on Dec.22 and not 8 weeks ago. Amplifier with some burned parts was delivered last week of November and check not deposited until late December to see if it works properly. Bill and I have spent a lot of time and effort arranging a lot of things to make it happened. NO ONE HAS ASKED ME IF I HAVE MONEY and for how long-just assumed so and pulled 8 weeks from somewhere...
Thanks to Tom K0ZM (SK), again. We shall respect this last contribution and come up with a good way to make use of it, every dollar will be accounted for.
  
Now how it's all started:
After seeing in Oct.2008 newsletter treasury report (below):

“As of Sept. 30, 2008, the KCDXC Treasury shows a balance of $1080.18. This is the highest I can remember in the history of the club this late in the year. Generous donations of members, careful use of funds by the Treasurer and some corporate support from our
newsletter printer have allowed us to make great progress. A special Thanks, to Pam & Curtis Cooper at the UPS store in Shawnee and the Legends!”

...and hearing surprising verbal comment of the treasurer, that "by now we normally have no money” I have asked Mike if there are any existing document keeping records of the:
-members annual fees
-donations
-sale
-expense
-other forms of possible club income and expense. 
Data needed for financial analysis and improvement of the club financial activities and different form. Spread sheet accessible on the WEB for all club members-way the other recognized amateur radio clubs functioning.  Simple matter which may be solved in hours with Excel SS, right? 
Not so. I was told (for about 7-8 weeks by) now that such a document had never existed and my requests in different forms to create one were ignored 100% in many different ways. 
Comparisons to world worse dictators were made, freedom explanations etc, treating that 'whole world will see' how low I fell by holding club money for weeks...but nothing provided to fulfill reasonable request. The best answer was' "Why do you need it? What you going to do with information? Did I miss your accounting degree???"  
I'm not trying to go backwards with this request-just looking FORWARD and only for the good future of the Club. No degree required. Makes sense? 

As I have said well known clubs have it and KCDXC should do something to be similar in a good way.

Since privately kept issue is out-I would ask members for the ideas and tools to bring accounting of the club members to the respectful level for years to come. Any programs, SS with macros and other ideas will be looked at and discussed in opened manner.

Once again-all I’m trying to do since beginning of my presidency is make club more interesting, organized and efficient in all aspects and not necessary follow ‘it was done like that for years’ rule, were it’s not making sense anymore. 
I’m counting on support of the Club members who would like to see positive changes happened.


Sincerely,

Alex, KU1CW. KCDXC President.




--- On Sun, 1/4/09, M.Crabtree <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com> wrote:

> From: M.Crabtree <mcrabtree at kc.rr.com>
> Subject: Serious Financial Concern + Annual report
> To: woodrr at att.net, "Wm. LAUX" <n0ag at yahoo.com>, "W0ZAP" <w0zap at everestkc.net>, "W0XK Perry McLean" <w0xk at att.net>, W0ns at aol.com, w0mw at comcast.net, W0LHK at aol.com, w0bv at att.net, "Tom NM0N" <nm0n at arrl.net>, "Tom Hammond" <n0ss at embarqmail.com>, "T E Isaacson" <ikeisaacson at earthlink.net>, "Steve Walz K0UO" <stevew at rsicorp.com>, "Steve Lufcy" <k0ou at comcast.net>, "Steve Gecewicz (MYedl)" <lance at myedl.com>, "rick barnett" <rick at crcwireless.net>, pfcambel at micoks.net, NX0I at aol.com, "N0ATH" <n0ath at charter.net>, "Missouri Guy" <n0tt1 at juno.com>, "Mike ZooLoo" <aa0mz at yahoo.com>, "Michael L. Bogard" <kd0fw at att.net>, "Marshall AA0FO" <mrtoburen at sunflower.com>, lee at crcltd.com, "Lee Ward" <lee at crcwireless.net>, "Larry Wilson" <K0RWL at YAHOO.COM>, "L. Wilson" <k0rwl at townsqr.com>, KI7WO-1 at comcast.net, "Kevin Schavee" <n0cwr at kc.rr.com>, "kcdxc for fun" <KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com>, "KC0TjX Dan" <doctordan8 at embarqmail.com>, k0ru at arrl.net, k0lw at crcltd.com, "John Rodgers"
 <johnrodgers22 at att.net>, "John Patterson WC0W" <WC0W at AOL.COM>, "John K3FP" <k3fp at hotmail.com>, "John Chass W0JLC" <johnchass at midlandradio.com>, JimRCessna at aol.com, jim at walkersdomain.com, "Jim Smith" <jimkirsti at ni.net.nf>, "Jeff Blaine AC0C" <ac0c at arrl.net>, "Jan KC0IWK" <janny66101 at yahoo.com>, "James Arther W0NV" <w6yj at pacbell.net>, "J Brown" <n0nut at yahoo.com>, gyantis at midtec.com, "George Yantis" <k0gy at swbell.net>, "Fred N0XA" <n0xa at embarqmail.com>, "Dwayne K0LLS" <K0LLS at arrl.net>, "Dragan K0AP Davkovski" <davkovski at yahoo.com>, "Don Reed K0IFO" <k0ifo at arrl.net>, "don devins" <wd0bwm1 at swbell.net>, "Dick Posz" <rvposz at hotmail.com>, "Cliff Ahrens" <cahrens at mywdo.com>, "Clark Stewart" <w8tn.wv at gmail.com>, "Charles Lovgren" <clovgren at sunflower.com>, "Bob Sutton N0GMG" <N0GMG at yahoo.com>, "Bill WS4Y" <ws4y at arrl.net>, "Bill Henderson" <bill at hendersonkc.com>, "Bernie W3UR" <Bernie at dailydx.com>, bbrown at crcltd.com, "barnett rick" <barnett_rick at yahoo.com>, "B
 Roske" <broske at hutchtel.net>, Arsk0jn at aol.com, "Alex Tkatch" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>, "ak0a" <ak0a at kc.rr.com>
> Cc: "kcdxc for fun" <KCDXC-for-fun at crcltd.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 5:48 PM
> Please read the attached files which has the annual
> financial report for the KCDXC. It comes in pdf or Word
> format for your convenience.
> 
>  Please read the report carefully. 
> Thanks & 73,
> Mike AB0X