[KCDXC] To Lee_Re: Serious Financial Concern + Annual report

[Alex, KU1CW]

Lee,
You should stop creating issues and spill all of this dirt on club reflector. Private is private.
Alex



--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Lee Ward <v31lw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Lee Ward <v31lw at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] Serious Financial Concern + Annual report
> To: "KCDXC" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 7:05 AM
> Alex,
> 
> Do you have the K0ZM money?
> 
> Are you going to turn it over to the Treasurer?
> 
> The club awaits your answers.
> 
> Club business should never be considered private.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> AK> Same applies to the matter in Mike's letter:
> 
> AK> Club members,
> AK> I was working in the contest this weekend and had
> some things
> AK> to be done after RTTY fun, so had no plans to work
> on e-mails. Was
> AK> quite a surprise in many ways to see reverse of the
> long private
> AK> exchange into public matter and someone trying to
> say that I took
> AK> club's money. Irresponsible, to say the
> least-especially without
> AK> knowing details of the issues-sale in particular.  
> AK> I will call special meeting to discuss issue as soon
> as space
> AK> available and before next club meeting.
> 
> AK> Lee,
> AK> You should keep private e-mails in Private and if
> presented
> AK> to others (with permission)-then without cuts of the
> important
> AK> questions. This is not right.
> AK> Part Lee has removed from "flatly
> refusing" e-mail below:
> 
> AK>   "P.S. I have asked you to help with
> organization and so far
> AK> you have refused. You have been against better
> accounting? Why? Do
> AK> not sound right."
> 
> AK> Eight (!) week private effort to change things to
> how others
> AK> club doing it is out, so let's see...  
> 
> AK> I was told that we keep track of the annual
> membership by the
> AK> club roaster. One who paid dues-get name on the
> roaster:). This
> AK> issue is strictly KCDXC matter and not all of the
> people on CC:
> AK> are on the club roaster... 
> AK> Probably another good example of possible
> improvement in
> AK> accounting? Hope everyone agrees. 
> 
> AK> Matter is very simple and was NOT in any way (at
> least when
> AK> it started) related to sale of the K0ZM equipment.
> Equipment sale
> AK> broad here to make issue a bit fuzzier just 2-3
> weeks ago.
> AK> BTW-radio was delivered on Dec.22 and not 8 weeks
> ago.
> AK> Amplifier with some burned parts was delivered last
> week of
> AK> November and check not deposited until late December
> to see if it
> AK> works properly. Bill and I have spent a lot of time
> and effort
> AK> arranging a lot of things to make it happened. NO
> ONE HAS ASKED ME
> AK> IF I HAVE MONEY and for how long-just assumed so and
> pulled 8
> AK> weeks from somewhere...
> AK> Thanks to Tom K0ZM (SK), again. We shall respect
> this last
> AK> contribution and come up with a good way to make use
> of it, every
> AK> dollar will be accounted for.
>   
> AK> Now how it's all started:
> AK> After seeing in Oct.2008 newsletter treasury report
> (below):
> 
> AK> “As of Sept. 30, 2008, the KCDXC Treasury shows a
> balance of
> AK> $1080.18. This is the highest I can remember in the
> history of the
> AK> club this late in the year. Generous donations of
> members, careful
> AK> use of funds by the Treasurer and some corporate
> support from our
> AK> newsletter printer have allowed us to make great
> progress. A
> AK> special Thanks, to Pam & Curtis Cooper at the
> UPS store in Shawnee
> AK> and the Legends!”
> 
> AK> ...and hearing surprising verbal comment of the
> treasurer,
> AK> that "by now we normally have no money” I
> have asked Mike if there
> AK> are any existing document keeping records of the:
> AK> -members annual fees
> AK> -donations
> AK> -sale
> AK> -expense
> AK> -other forms of possible club income and expense. 
> AK> Data needed for financial analysis and improvement
> of the
> AK> club financial activities and different form. Spread
> sheet
> AK> accessible on the WEB for all club members-way the
> other
> AK> recognized amateur radio clubs functioning.  Simple
> matter which
> AK> may be solved in hours with Excel SS, right? 
> AK> Not so. I was told (for about 7-8 weeks by) now that
> such a
> AK> document had never existed and my requests in
> different forms to
> AK> create one were ignored 100% in many different ways.
> 
> AK> Comparisons to world worse dictators were made,
> freedom
> AK> explanations etc, treating that 'whole world
> will see' how low I
> AK> fell by holding club money for weeks...but nothing
> provided to
> AK> fulfill reasonable request. The best answer was'
> "Why do you need
> AK> it? What you going to do with information? Did I
> miss your
> AK> accounting degree???"  
> AK> I'm not trying to go backwards with this
> request-just looking
> AK> FORWARD and only for the good future of the Club. No
> degree
> AK> required. Makes sense? 
> 
> AK> As I have said well known clubs have it and KCDXC
> should do
> AK> something to be similar in a good way.
> 
> AK> Since privately kept issue is out-I would ask
> members for the
> AK> ideas and tools to bring accounting of the club
> members to the
> AK> respectful level for years to come. Any programs, SS
> with macros
> AK> and other ideas will be looked at and discussed in
> opened manner.
> 
> AK> Once again-all I’m trying to do since beginning of
> my
> AK> presidency is make club more interesting, organized
> and efficient
> AK> in all aspects and not necessary follow ‘it was
> done like that for
> AK> years’ rule, were it’s not making sense anymore.
> 
> AK> I’m counting on support of the Club members who
> would like to see positive changes happened.
> 
> 
> AK> Sincerely,
> 
> AK> Alex, KU1CW. KCDXC President.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
> Kansas City DX Club
> Does anyone read this stuff?
> KCDXC mailing list
> KCDXC at mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/kcdxc