[KCDXC] Article VIII: Amendments

Wm. LAUX n0ag at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 17 08:02:09 EST 2009 

Ladies & Gentlemen:
Bob is correct that he brought this SNAFU to our attention.  A fact that I have mentioned privately has save us untold amounts of grief and for which I was extremely grateful.  However the current snippet that Bob refers to IS NOT what is currently being considered on the KCDXC website.  That provision is:

VIII.I   This constitution may be amended by a three-quarters vote of the votes received. Proposals for amendments to the constitution shall be submitted in writing at a regular meeting and will be published in the newsletter and electronically via e-mail and the club website as amendments/changes to the constitution.  Voting for those changes will be accepted until seven (7) days prior to the next monthly meeting at which time all voting will be closed. A three quarter (3/4) majority vote of the voting members shall be considered acceptance of the amendment/amendments.  Results will be tabulated by the election committee and announced at the next regular meeting.  Results will be published in the newsletter as well as electronically via e-mail.

It specifically states that all voting will be closed seven (7) days prior to the next monthly meeting.  

Section 7 of the by-laws states: Voting to change the Constitution, remove officers or members shall be conducted by electronic voting consisting of e-mail or via the members portal on the KCDXC website.

What we (the constitutional committee) were attempting to do in this proposal was to make it difficult to change the constitution or throw somebody out of the club.  Conversely we wanted it to be relatively easy to make changes to the by-laws, in which the club conducts its day to day business.  We also wanted to make it short and simple.

I thanked Bob privately in an e-mail when he brought it to our attention and I would like to do that publicly now, but I believe we fixed the problem.
Tom...N0AG


--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Bob Roske <broske at hutchtel.net> wrote:

> From: Bob Roske <broske at hutchtel.net>
> Subject: Re: [KCDXC] KCDXC Club meeting - February 23
> To: "KC DX Club Reflector" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 1:16 AM
> KCDXC Members,
> -------------------------------------------------
> Article VIII: Amendments
> 
> VIII.I This constitution may be amended by a two-thirds
> vote of the 
> membership. Proposals for amendments shall be submitted in
> writing at a 
> regular meeting and shall be voted on at the next following
> regular meeting, 
> provided all members have been notified by newsletter or
> e-mail of the 
> intent to amend the constitution at said meeting.
> --------------------------------------------------
> This article requires a two-thirds vote of the membership,
> (NOT the members 
> present) and specifies they must be at the meeting to vote.
>  There is no 
> provision for electronic voting in this section.  With 70
> members it will 
> take 47 votes to amend this constitution.
> 
> If this is approved as it is written, it will be next to
> impossible to amend 
> the constitution, even with electronic voting it will be
> difficult.
> 
> With the verbiage currently in this section, it could be
> argued that it 
> should take 47 votes to approve the constitution as well.
> 
> This isn't a last minute red herring, I pointed this
> out a month ago.
> 
> 73,
> Bob Roske, N0UF
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex, KU1CW" <ku1cw at yahoo.com>
> To: "kcdxc" <kcdxc at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:29 PM
> Subject: [KCDXC] KCDXC Club meeting - February 23
> 
> 
> 
> KCDXC Members,
> 
> Another exiting KCDXC club meeting will be held on Feb.23
> at the JoCo 
> library. Starting 18.30 at the Carmack Meeting Room.
> Followed by pie at Perkins!
> 
> -We will vote on KCDXC club insurance, proposed by the
> Finance Committee.
> 
> -Please take a look at the proposed KCDXC constitution at: 
> http://www.kcdxclub.com/constitutionproposed.html
> and send any comments to Tom, N0AG.
> Latest version will be on the WEB by tomorrow AM.
> 
> -Also, it is time to pay dues. Please contact Mike, AB0X
> with any questions.
> 
> Now about the meeting agenda. We will have three
> interesting presentations:
> -----------------------------------------------------
> #1-TO5DX 2008 DX/contest pedition presentation. We will
> have guest speaker 
> K0RH, Jim from Wichita. Jim first licensed in 1959 and have
> been active all 
> those years chasing DX & contesting. In 2007 went to
> Grenada and operated 
> J3A multi-multi ssb. Have held the calls K0WUI, KK0SS,
> J3/K0RH, and now 
> K0RH. Midwest Div member of ARRL Contest Advisory
> Committee. 20-30min
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> #2-Tom, N0AG, will present Part 2 of the tower installation
> and safety 
> program. We will hear about 100ft tilt over Rohn 45's
> and everything you 
> will need to know about the tower installations.
> Here's Tom's short BIO:
> 
> "I was first licensed in 1980 as KAØDEG. My first
> store bought rig was a 
> Ten-Tec Century 21.  CW only, 50 watts out but she was a
> beauty.
> Work and kids intervened.  I let my license lapse.  Time
> goes by.  In 1992 
> my wife and I decided to build a house in Miami County,
> Kansas.  In 1993 the 
> house was completed.  I got the itch again.  I decided to
> pour some tower 
> footings "just in Case".
> I found a class and was introduced to the Santa Fe Amateur
> Radio Club in the 
> winter of 1994.  I was licensed a few months later as
> KBØMZG.
> I enjoy "casual contesting" and DXing.  I am a
> closet paper chaser.  My real 
> love is still antennas I never have tired of observing the
> magic when a good 
> antenna is hooked up to the radio and signals pour forth.
> My current projects include fabricating and installing a
> three tower antenna 
> system to be completed in 2009.  I am also trying to become
> familiar with 
> the digital modes." 30-40min
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> #3-Jeff, AC0C will have short intro into his future full 
> presentation-converting SB200 into legal power amplifier.
> Two GI7B, a lot of 
> thinking, some work and ...some smoke. Well let Jeff tell
> us about it.
> 
> Jeff's presentation this time will be attic
> antennas-3el 40M-10m and loaded 
> dipoles for 160/80M.
> 
> About Jeff: "Likes: Running CW, PSK and RTTY.
> Rag-chewing and tinkering with 
> amps, antennas/modeling. Working on DXCC and PSK-WAS.
> Improving my CW fist 
> after about 27 years QRT. Thanks to everyone I've
> worked and had the 
> patience to put up with my many CW sending errors.
> Rig: Yaesu FT-2000, DMU-2000 & Heathkit SB-200 amp.
> 200-500w
> Antenna: Attic-mounted 3-element trapped inverted-v wire
> beam for 20/30/40m 
> using traps at 40' (11m) apex. Switchable east/west.
> Traps on the driven 
> element for 80m also. MFJ-998 automatic ATU mounted near
> the antenna feed 
> point provides full 10-160m all band coverage." 45min
> 
> CU at the meeting!
> 73. Alex KU1CW KCDXC President.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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