From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Sun Oct  1 12:24:44 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 16:24:44 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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All,
Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP 
Kyle

From john.ohm at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 13:07:37 2017
From: john.ohm at comcast.net (John Ohm)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 13:07:37 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Wow, congratulations on your upgrade, Kyle!

That is excellent!

73,

John? W8IS



On 10/1/2017 12:24 PM, Kyle Thornton wrote:
> All,
> Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP
> Kyle
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From ke3fl at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  1 15:10:16 2017
From: ke3fl at yahoo.com (Philip Karras)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 19:10:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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CONGRATS! 

FYI: You had it easy ;) - Us old timers had to take 8 exams, three Morse code (5wpm, 13wpm, & 20wpm for Extra) and Five written (Novice, Technician, General, Advanced, & then Extra), ah but that's water over the damn & under the bridge now. :) Aren't you glad you didn't have to do all that?!?
Well, now that you can use everything you'll need to learn Morse code so you use the code portions of the spectrum using CW. Hey, Enjoy the freedom of all the bands Kyle!

73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County OES, ORS, & VEARRL Life Member
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/list.php/author/86-PhilK

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? 1. Re: Hamfest Volunteers Needed (Peter Hiltz)
? 2. For Sale:? N3YIM's Ameritron AL-811 amplifier (James Nitzberg)
? 3. Re: For Sale:? N3YIM's Ameritron AL-811 amplifier
? ? ? (kb3vwk at gmail.com)
? 4. Extra Class License (Kyle Thornton)
? 5. Re: Extra Class License (John Ohm)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:18:38 -0400
From: Peter Hiltz <pmhiltz at gmail.com>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest Volunteers Needed
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Mark,

Thanks.? I'll put you down as assigned and see how things evolve.

Pete

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Mark Rosenthal <marksro at comcast.net> wrote:

> Pete
> I should be available.? No real burning desire to do one job over
> another.? Use me where you need me.
> Mark
> W3MSR
>
>
> > On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Peter Hiltz <pmhiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Andy gave me a list of required staff for the hamfest so this is to
> solicit
> > your help in identifying volunteers.? The positions are
> >
> > 4 people total staggered from 0600 - 1000 for selling tickets and
> directing
> > traffic.
> >
> > 2 people who will trade off sitting at a club table to sell club
> equipment
> >
> > 1 person + me to handle coordination and float between the other jobs
> >
> > 2 people for talk in (should be doable at the club tables if we have 3
> > people there between the sales and the floater).
> >
> > Prior to, Andy will need a few folks (Lets say 3) to help move stuff from
> > his basement to hamfest.? I'll help with that as I have a pickup truck.
> >
> > Since Andy is headed out shortly on a long business trip, I'll help by
> > collecting names and positions so please send both Andy and myself your
> > availability and position preference.
> >
> > Also, I'd like to try a strategy to increase attendance by alerting the
> the
> > other local clubs to what is going to be offered for sale.? If you plan
> to
> > rent a space, please let Andy and myself know and also what you plan to
> > offer.? I'll then send that list to the local club presidents for
> > distribution to their membership.
> >
> > Thanks, 73, and good DX,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > --
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:18:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: James Nitzberg <wx3b at yahoo.com>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] For Sale:? N3YIM's Ameritron AL-811 amplifier
Message-ID: <1374822712.12214894.1506615485513 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Dear CCARCers and PVRCers,

As many of you know, my good friend and former QSL manager, "DX" Joe, N3YIM has retired from HF operation and I am testing and selling some of his more interesting equipment.

Joe has an excellent condition Ameritron AL-811 for sale.? It runs on 120v and puts out 600 watts PEP on SSB with (3) 811 tubes.? Cosmetically and electronically this unit isin extremely good condition, and was used mostly to "pounce" on DX stations.
This is an easy way to generate a bigger signal with a small footprint; the amp is quiet and will boost your 100w barefoot signal almost 8dB
(that's about 1+1/2 S-Units)

The amplifier is in my basement available for testing and use prior to purchase.? While Joe used it successfully in contests, I would recommend this as a good starter amplifier, howeverI would NOT recommend it for high duty cycle operations like RTTY, AM or sustained SSB/CW CQing for long periods of time with few answers.?
Sale price is $425 or best reasonable offer.??

Please contact me via this email if you are interested.

Thank you.

73,

Jim Nitzberg? ?WX3B

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 16:26:51 -0400
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com
To: James Nitzberg <wx3b at yahoo.com>,??? Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
??? <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] For Sale:? N3YIM's Ameritron AL-811
??? amplifier
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Hey Jim can you send me an email kb3vwk at gmail.com 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2017, at 12:18 PM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Dear CCARCers and PVRCers,
> 
> As many of you know, my good friend and former QSL manager, "DX" Joe, N3YIM has retired from HF operation and I am testing and selling some of his more interesting equipment.
> 
> Joe has an excellent condition Ameritron AL-811 for sale.? It runs on 120v and puts out 600 watts PEP on SSB with (3) 811 tubes.? Cosmetically and electronically this unit isin extremely good condition, and was used mostly to "pounce" on DX stations.
> This is an easy way to generate a bigger signal with a small footprint; the amp is quiet and will boost your 100w barefoot signal almost 8dB
> (that's about 1+1/2 S-Units)
> 
> The amplifier is in my basement available for testing and use prior to purchase.? While Joe used it successfully in contests, I would recommend this as a good starter amplifier, howeverI would NOT recommend it for high duty cycle operations like RTTY, AM or sustained SSB/CW CQing for long periods of time with few answers. 
> Sale price is $425 or best reasonable offer.? 
> 
> Please contact me via this email if you are interested.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim Nitzberg? WX3B
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 16:24:44 +0000
From: Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com>
To: "k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>, K3PZN
??? <radio-k3pzn at googlegroups.com>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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All,
Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP 
Kyle

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 13:07:37 -0400
From: John Ohm <john.ohm at comcast.net>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>,
??? Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com>, K3PZN
??? <radio-k3pzn at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Wow, congratulations on your upgrade, Kyle!

That is excellent!

73,

John? W8IS



On 10/1/2017 12:24 PM, Kyle Thornton wrote:
> All,
> Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP
> Kyle
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  1 15:40:49 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 19:40:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Kyle
Nice milestone, ?keep learning the radio art.
Phil beat me to inviting you to to learn cw, aim to do this before you reach 30. Also learn more electronics and technology.
buckle down also on those college classes, keep your mind at work.?
You might as well enjoy being AE whatever order those fcc transactions go. Do research former w3gxp, likely only one person ever had it. ?Nice call on ssb or cw.
curt



Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 12:25 pm, Kyle Thornton<kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:   All,
Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP 
Kyle
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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 18:46:04 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 18:46:04 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Pre Hamfest SALE!
Message-ID: <CAORoMxBSAS3bPqjXkT5HUR+C2=Geu9BK5WvrE=Dty=GVE6TSLg@mail.gmail.com>

All,

In order to get a jump on our October 22 hamfest, here is a partial list of
the things we've for sale.  I'll call your attention to the wire as it is
priced about half retail.  The grounding kits are an exceptional bargain as
each contains a grounding strap, new roll of electrical tape, coax seal
(mastic), and cable ties.  Two-inch electrical tape is not something you
see everyday!

Sale is first come, first serve.  No refunds.  Cash or check to the CCARC
please.

I will pull lengths from the wire spools at point of sale.  I'm happy to
bring stuff the next meeting October 9, but be warned that you might lose
out to the guy who arranges to visit my QTH.

Let me know!

73,

Pete

Item    Qty.        Description
                                   Suggested Price
1    ~2 ft.      #12 green stranded wire
                             free to good home
2   ~80 ft.      #6 green stranded wire
                           $0.50 /foot
3  ~25 ft.      #6 tinned/stranded/bare wire
                         $0.50 /foot
4  ~28 ft.      #6 tinned/stranded/bare wire
                         $0.50 /foot
5    15             "8"" cable ties, ~ 15 ties"
                                   free to good home
6    3               Box -        Wiremold / Grainger V5744-2
                         $5 ea
7    4               Coax adapter UHF 90 deg.
                         $2 ea
8    12               "182102, PL259 crimp connector, LMR400"
                 $1 ea
9    1               PL259-400 (male) crimp/solder
                             $1
10    7               "SO239-400 (female), RF Parts, LM400, RG213, RG214,
9913"    $1 ea
11    3               Coax connector PL-259 crimp/solder
                     $1 ea
12    1               "Coax feed-through - 2"" UHF/F "
                           $2
13    ~200 ft.       Coax LMR-400 (BGE)
                           $.50 /ft
14    1              "Coax RG-214 jumper UHF/F-UHF/F - 12"""
                 $5
15    7              "Coax seal (roll), various amounts left on rolls"
                          $0.50 / roll
16    1               "Conduit - 1"" coupling PVC"
                              $0.25
17    1               "Conduit - 1"" steel hanger"
                              $0.25
18    3               "Conduit - 1"" strap hanger PVC"
                          $0.25 ea
19    2                "Conduit - 1"" x 45 deg. PVC"
                                $0.25 ea
20    1               "Conduit - 3/4"" box connector PVC and nut"
                   free to good home
21    5               "Conduit - 3/4"" coupling PVC"
                                $0.25 ea
22    2               "Conduit - 3/4"" x 45 deg. PVC"
                        $5.00 ea
23    3              "Conduit - 3/4"" x 90 deg. PVC"
                                $1.00 ea
24    7              "Electrical tape - 2"", various amounts left on rolls"
                   $0.50 ea
25    2               "Electrical tape - 3/4"", various amounts left on
rolls"              $1 ea
26    5              "Grounding kit Andrew #242948
                     $10 ea
27    2               Grounding kit Commscope GK-SNUV
               $10 ea
28   13               "Grounding kit Times Microwave GK-S400TT, LMR 400"
           $10 ea
29    1               "Grounding kit Times Microwave GK-S400TT LMR400,
partial      $10
30 (misc.)       "Hardware stainless steel --various sizes and quantities
   $1.00 whole bag
32    2                "Lag shield 1/4"" x 1-1/2"", remains of 20-pack"
                 $0.25 ea
33    2                "Pipe grounding clamp (1-1/2""-2"" -- one used)"
                 $5 ea
34    2                 "Pipe grounding clamp (2-1/2""-4"")"
                       $3 each, both for $5
35    2                "U bolt, Pointed"
                                   $1 for both
36    9                 Split bolt AK-2/0 (Al.)
                                  $1 ea
   2               "Pipe clamp to attach to mast to flat surface, Al."
                  $1 ea
   1               "Pipe clamp, compression as used on hoses, used"
      free to good home
36    1                Split bolt IK-4 (Cu.)
                                         $1
37 (open can)      SS-30 anti-seize
                               $5
38 (open box)     "Tapper+ (tapcons) 1-1/4"" x 1/4"""
                         $5
40 1               "Dog nail clippers, Millers Forge, 766"
                       $5
41 1               "Tool - coax trimmer, three blade, RG 8, 9, 213, 214,
LMR400"      $7
42 1                "KPC-3 + TNC, with cables, full kit"
                             $30

Each Andrews 242948 grounding kit contains   ~20"" ground strap; electrical
tape, mastic, bolt&nut, 3 cable ties".
Each Times Microwave grounding kit contains similar items.
-- 
*WV3S*
*Monitoring 146.52 MHz & the CCARC UHF Repeater*

From ngruentzel at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  1 19:00:03 2017
From: ngruentzel at hotmail.com (Nancy G)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 23:00:03 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Congrats 

Sent from my iPhone, Nancy KC3HEW


> On Oct 1, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP 
> Kyle
> ______________________________________________________________
> 
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From marksro at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 20:58:32 2017
From: marksro at comcast.net (Mark Rosenthal)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 20:58:32 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Kyle-
Good job.  A nice reward for hard work.
(Now I have to get myself going)
Mark
W3MSR


> On Oct 1, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Nancy G <ngruentzel at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Congrats 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone, Nancy KC3HEW
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP 
>> Kyle
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> 
>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From bigfoot1844 at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 21:43:25 2017
From: bigfoot1844 at comcast.net (Wayne)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 21:43:25 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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	<DM5PR2001MB1002D9B7BEA19226A15CEFA6CD7C0@DM5PR2001MB1002.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
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Kyle, congrats and nice to meet you today at the hamfest.
Wayne N3UN


From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Mon Oct  2 08:36:49 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 12:36:49 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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	<DM5PR2001MB1002D9B7BEA19226A15CEFA6CD7C0@DM5PR2001MB1002.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
	<0F3B5C66-B646-413C-838F-72BE0C12FFA9@comcast.net>,
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Thanks everyone! It was certainly a surprise because I wasn?t passing the practice tests. It looks like it takes 18-21 days for the vanity call signs to go through. Which means I probably won?t be an extra in the system until the end of the month. The VE is supposed to email me and tell me how all that is going to work after she calls the FCC so we will see.
Kyle
KC3FMP

On Oct 1, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Wayne <bigfoot1844 at comcast.net<mailto:bigfoot1844 at comcast.net>> wrote:

Kyle, congrats and nice to meet you today at the hamfest.
Wayne N3UN

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From ab3wr at outlook.com  Mon Oct  2 09:13:14 2017
From: ab3wr at outlook.com (Richard Krell)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 13:13:14 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Congratulations Kyle

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Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License

All,
Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP Kyle ______________________________________________________________

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From ab3wr at outlook.com  Mon Oct  2 09:13:16 2017
From: ab3wr at outlook.com (Richard Krell)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 13:13:16 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Congratulations Kyle!  
Rich,
AB4WR

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Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2017 12:25 PM
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Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License

All,
Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP Kyle ______________________________________________________________

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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Mon Oct  2 10:36:47 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 14:36:47 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License
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Thanks everyone!
Good news! The lady from the VE just emailed me and said the vanity application has not yet appeared in the FCC data base. They are going fourth and putting the upgrade towards my current license. She said it should appear in a few hours.

On Oct 2, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Richard Krell <ab3wr at outlook.com<mailto:ab3wr at outlook.com>> wrote:

Congratulations Kyle!
Rich,
AB4WR

-----Original Message-----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net> [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kyle Thornton
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Subject: [K3PZN-List] Extra Class License

All,
Thursday night I decided I was going to cram study to take my extra class exam at the CARA fest today. Well I passed. However I made things complicated and had applied for a vanity callsign (W3GXP) before I undertook this task. So it may be a while before I can actually use those segments with out /AE. At any rate though I'm finally done with license exams and can finally use everything! But for now I'm still KC3FMP Kyle ______________________________________________________________

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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Wed Oct  4 22:33:22 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 02:33:22 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] My HF Station
Message-ID: <DM5PR1401MB19465CD774236DB62096C63FEF700@DM5PR1401MB1946.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

All,
I was noticing tonight that ive got a weird output power with my 891. If got my power meter (Yaesu YS-60) connected to the antenna side of the system so I can see what the tuner is seeing SWR rise and so I can see reflected power from the antenna and output power out of the tuner. It was kinda weird. I was doing PSK31 and had the radio set to 30watts output. The power output out of the radio according to the power meter was right about 30 watts with peaks of 50 watts. On the antenna side how ever its showing about 50 watts output with peaks of 75 watts and a reflected power of about 30-50 watts with an SWR of 2-2.5:1 on the antenna side. The radios SWR meter is showing about a 1.5:1 going into the tuner which should be correct. Whats going on here? Why is there so much power amplification going on inside the tuner? My antenna is cut right for 40m 33ft each side and is up about 20ft in an inverted vee. Im worried about the radio and cooking the insides. This was tested using PSK31 so I?m not sure if that?s a factor of it.
Thanks
Kyle
KC3FMP


From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  5 23:07:15 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 03:07:15 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] My HF Station
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Kyle
I am thinking that your meter on the outside of the tuner may be reading high because of the higher SWR at that end. The power meter is most accurate whenIt experiences a match close to 50 ohms. ?It would be worthwhile to improve your antenna swr. ?Likely your antenna is too long. ?See if SWR gets better as you tune lower in frequency! As this will confirm antenna?is long. ?Often its the case when ends are close to ground. ?No worry, just shorten wire about 6 inches at a time, and watch it improve. ?Even with a nice tuner its best to reduce antenna swr.
yes you are not creating power in the antenna, its not possible. ?
Curt



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  On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:33 pm, Kyle Thornton<kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:   All,
I was noticing tonight that ive got a weird output power with my 891. If got my power meter (Yaesu YS-60) connected to the antenna side of the system so I can see what the tuner is seeing SWR rise and so I can see reflected power from the antenna and output power out of the tuner. It was kinda weird. I was doing PSK31 and had the radio set to 30watts output. The power output out of the radio according to the power meter was right about 30 watts with peaks of 50 watts. On the antenna side how ever its showing about 50 watts output with peaks of 75 watts and a reflected power of about 30-50 watts with an SWR of 2-2.5:1 on the antenna side. The radios SWR meter is showing about a 1.5:1 going into the tuner which should be correct. Whats going on here? Why is there so much power amplification going on inside the tuner? My antenna is cut right for 40m 33ft each side and is up about 20ft in an inverted vee. Im worried about the radio and cooking the insides. This was tested using PSK31 so I?m not sure if that?s a factor of it.
Thanks
Kyle
KC3FMP

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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Fri Oct  6 11:03:56 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 15:03:56 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] My HF Station
In-Reply-To: <1550386943.2526157.1507259235865@mail.yahoo.com>
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6.2 is the lowest in that range with an SWR of 2.6 and an R of 100

On Oct 5, 2017, at 11:07 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
I am thinking that your meter on the outside of the tuner may be reading high because of the higher SWR at that end. The power meter is most accurate whenIt experiences a match close to 50 ohms.  It would be worthwhile to improve your antenna swr.  Likely your antenna is too long.  See if SWR gets better as you tune lower in frequency! As this will confirm antenna is long.  Often its the case when ends are close to ground.  No worry, just shorten wire about 6 inches at a time, and watch it improve.  Even with a nice tuner its best to reduce antenna swr.
yes you are not creating power in the antenna, its not possible.
Curt



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 On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:33 pm, Kyle Thornton<kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:   All,
I was noticing tonight that ive got a weird output power with my 891. If got my power meter (Yaesu YS-60) connected to the antenna side of the system so I can see what the tuner is seeing SWR rise and so I can see reflected power from the antenna and output power out of the tuner. It was kinda weird. I was doing PSK31 and had the radio set to 30watts output. The power output out of the radio according to the power meter was right about 30 watts with peaks of 50 watts. On the antenna side how ever its showing about 50 watts output with peaks of 75 watts and a reflected power of about 30-50 watts with an SWR of 2-2.5:1 on the antenna side. The radios SWR meter is showing about a 1.5:1 going into the tuner which should be correct. Whats going on here? Why is there so much power amplification going on inside the tuner? My antenna is cut right for 40m 33ft each side and is up about 20ft in an inverted vee. Im worried about the radio and cooking the insides. This was tested using PSK31 so I?m not sure if that?s a factor of it.
Thanks
Kyle
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From bigfoot1844 at comcast.net  Fri Oct  6 17:32:04 2017
From: bigfoot1844 at comcast.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 17:32:04 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Sykesville VHF
Message-ID: <7efc9f31-5b44-7ac8-b69e-26c0043cd81e@comcast.net>

Has the repeater changed frequencies or is it PL now? Using same radio
and antenna, unable to access it. I have no PL as there was never a PL
on it, so that could be problem.

74 Wayne N3UN

From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 18:23:01 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 18:23:01 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Sykesville VHF
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Wayne,

The Sykesville repeater does have a PL.  Try 147.285, -, 107.2.

I just tested it and it works, and is linked to the UHF repeater in
Westminster also.

Pete

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Wayne <bigfoot1844 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Has the repeater changed frequencies or is it PL now? Using same radio
> and antenna, unable to access it. I have no PL as there was never a PL
> on it, so that could be problem.
>
> 74 Wayne N3UN
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From wo3l at comcast.net  Fri Oct  6 19:04:27 2017
From: wo3l at comcast.net (Andrew Leeds)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 19:04:27 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Sykesville VHF
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Offset is +600 for 147.285. Typically its - below 147.000 and + above 
with 147.000 a toss up.

Andy


On 10/6/2017 6:23 PM, Peter Hiltz wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> The Sykesville repeater does have a PL.  Try 147.285, -, 107.2.
>
> I just tested it and it works, and is linked to the UHF repeater in
> Westminster also.
>
> Pete
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Wayne <bigfoot1844 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Has the repeater changed frequencies or is it PL now? Using same radio
>> and antenna, unable to access it. I have no PL as there was never a PL
>> on it, so that could be problem.
>>
>> 74 Wayne N3UN
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Fri Oct  6 19:17:03 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 19:17:03 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Sykesville VHF
In-Reply-To: <5106e5aa-21ad-f5de-19b0-03f80dae34e3@comcast.net>
References: <7efc9f31-5b44-7ac8-b69e-26c0043cd81e@comcast.net>
	<CAORoMxA1JvXtTqMA0a09h0v57bcHhCAMHcJ=hmFR8HdLu5JUDA@mail.gmail.com>
	<5106e5aa-21ad-f5de-19b0-03f80dae34e3@comcast.net>
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Yes!  I looked at notes, and not the radio.

I'll correct the notes.

Thanks,

Pete

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Andrew Leeds <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:

> Offset is +600 for 147.285. Typically its - below 147.000 and + above with
> 147.000 a toss up.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On 10/6/2017 6:23 PM, Peter Hiltz wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> The Sykesville repeater does have a PL.  Try 147.285, -, 107.2.
>>
>> I just tested it and it works, and is linked to the UHF repeater in
>> Westminster also.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Wayne <bigfoot1844 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has the repeater changed frequencies or is it PL now? Using same radio
>>> and antenna, unable to access it. I have no PL as there was never a PL
>>> on it, so that could be problem.
>>>
>>> 74 Wayne N3UN
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>
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From ke3fl at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  7 12:36:49 2017
From: ke3fl at yahoo.com (Philip Karras)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2017 16:36:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] My HF Station
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Kyle,
I concur with Curt, DO NOT MEASURE power between the tuner and antenna. All power readings should be taken between the radio and tuner. Tune the antenna/tuner with lowest power possible, then increase it and tune again. Now take the power measurement at the power output you intend to use.

Also, you should tune using CW setting so you can see the true output power.
When shortening the antenna there are two ways to do it. One is to cut the ends off, the other is to strip the ends & fold them over clamp & solder (DO NOT tie the wire together, yet). Once the best length is found then tie & solder for real or just cut it to that length. With the fold over method if you make it too short you can undo it & try a smaller change. This does take longer to do but you ALWAYS get much closer to the best length this way. With the cutting method we sometimes cut too much off & either have to settle for that or try to fix it with soldering more wire back on with a good tie point.

If you need to see what the antenna is doing, without the tuner, over the entire band of interest we can use my MFJ graphic antenna analyzer. Call me on my cell 301-471-2596 when you're free & would like me to stop by with the analyzer, if you want. Also, I've got appointments till late Wednesday the 11th & probably won't be able to stop by till sometime Thursday and/or later.
?73 de KE3FL,
Phil

     Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 03:07:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Curt Milton <wb8yyy at yahoo.com>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] My HF Station

Kyle
I am thinking that your meter on the outside of the tuner may be reading high because of the higher SWR at that end. The power meter is most accurate when It experiences a match close to 50 ohms. It would be worthwhile to improve your antenna swr. Likely your antenna is too long. See if SWR gets better as you tune lower in frequency! As this will confirm antenna is long. Often its the case when ends are close to ground. No worry, just shorten wire about 6 inches at a time, and watch it improve. Even with a nice tuner its best to reduce antenna swr.

Yes, you are not creating power in the antenna, it's not possible.
Curt
---------------------------------------
Frm: Kyle Thornton<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>

All,

I was noticing tonight that ive got a weird output power with my 891. If got my power meter (Yaesu YS-60) connected to the antenna side of the system so I can see what the tuner is seeing SWR rise and so I can see reflected power from the antenna and output power out of the tuner. It was kinda weird. I was doing PSK31 and had the radio set to 30watts output. The power output out of the radio according to the power meter was right about 30 watts with peaks of 50 watts. On the antenna side how ever its showing about 50 watts output with peaks of 75 watts and a reflected power of about 30-50 watts with an SWR of 2-2.5:1 on the antenna side. The radios SWR meter is showing about a 1.5:1 going into the tuner which should be correct. Whats going on here? Why is there so much power amplification going on inside the tuner? My antenna is cut right for 40m 33ft each side and is up about 20ft in an inverted vee. Im worried about the radio and cooking the insides. This was tested using P
SK31 so I?m not sure if that?s a factor of it.

Thanks
Kyle
KC3FMP

   

From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Sun Oct  8 19:06:46 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 23:06:46 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
Message-ID: <E3100BBE-4A72-4C08-84C9-9B333CDE4C77@outlook.com>

All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 

Thanks
Kyle 
KC3FMP 

From blackberryfan at gmail.com  Sun Oct  8 19:45:11 2017
From: blackberryfan at gmail.com (Dave Garrett)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 19:45:11 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <E3100BBE-4A72-4C08-84C9-9B333CDE4C77@outlook.com>
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Kyle,

Sorry about your R5.  What's not working on your 40m dipole?  Can I help you at all?  I'm only a few minutes away.

Another option to consider if you're on a budget: http://www.hamuniverse.com/fourdollarspecialw1gfh.html  - The $4 Special Antenna.

73,
Dave, N3ZPC


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To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas

All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 

Thanks
Kyle 
KC3FMP 
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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  8 19:45:59 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 23:45:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
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References: <E3100BBE-4A72-4C08-84C9-9B333CDE4C77@outlook.com>
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Kyle
glad the R5 has done you some good -- and let's not assume it's dead.? 

bent metal damage -- this can be fixed with a vise - -and those radial things do not have to be perfectly straight.? I don't have a picture of your feedpoint damage -- I need a little more data or a picture.? 

i wasn't thrilled with your R5 installation anyway -- and I am more glad there seems to be no damage to the house!? 

let's re-group -- and get your dipole fixed.? I suggest ZERO spending on an antenna.? please let us know what you need to fix your dipole.? 

catch your breath and let's work this.? 

BTW - the ONLY magic of the R5 is its ability to match all those bands - as a radiator it is NO better than any other piece of metal - except for its ability to accept the RF on all those bands.? a pair of dipoles (even as inverted V) can beat it on 20 and 40 meters - the best bands right now.? 

Curt
 

    On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:07 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
 

 All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 

Thanks
Kyle 
KC3FMP 
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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Sun Oct  8 21:04:30 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 01:04:30 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <1020419561.3883713.1507506359216@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<1020419561.3883713.1507506359216@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Dave ill look into that!

Curt,
I never liked how it was set up either but its the only thing im able to do because of the HOA we have. I wish I had the space and height for a wire because I think thats part of the problem. The dipole has been cut EXACTLY for 40m but its resonate (1:1swr) at right around 60m which I havent used and really dont plan to use it. I like the verticals because I can leave it up and I can get 4 or 5 bands out of them. The dipole doesn?t have a ballon on it so maybe thats the problem? I need to get some fiberglass poles that just slide into each other that I could put up 40ft and string the 40m wire off that as an inverted V. Would a balon solve that issue with the dipole and make it resonate on 40m? Right now its got about a 3:1 SWR across the whole band. 
Kyle 

> On Oct 8, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Kyle
> glad the R5 has done you some good -- and let's not assume it's dead.  
> 
> bent metal damage -- this can be fixed with a vise - -and those radial things do not have to be perfectly straight.  I don't have a picture of your feedpoint damage -- I need a little more data or a picture.  
> 
> i wasn't thrilled with your R5 installation anyway -- and I am more glad there seems to be no damage to the house!  
> 
> let's re-group -- and get your dipole fixed.  I suggest ZERO spending on an antenna.  please let us know what you need to fix your dipole.  
> 
> catch your breath and let's work this.  
> 
> BTW - the ONLY magic of the R5 is its ability to match all those bands - as a radiator it is NO better than any other piece of metal - except for its ability to accept the RF on all those bands.  a pair of dipoles (even as inverted V) can beat it on 20 and 40 meters - the best bands right now.  
> 
> Curt
> 
> 
>    On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:07 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All,
> So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 
> 
> The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 
> 
> I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 
> 
> So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 
> 
> I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 
> 
> What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 
> 
> Thanks
> Kyle 
> KC3FMP 
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From ke3fl at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  9 08:11:35 2017
From: ke3fl at yahoo.com (Philip Karras)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:11:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1340.1507504013.29347.k3pzn-list@mailman.qth.net>
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Kyle,
I'm on the road right now but will try to help more later. My R5 fell over about a year ago. I had to straighten a radial, and replace a piece. I "manufactured" the replacement piece out of stock Al I found at Tractor supply & all is well.
Bring the pieces over and let's look at them together. One way or another I'll bet we can get it up & running again.?73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County OES, ORS, & VEARRL Life Member
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/list.php/author/86-PhilK

     Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 23:06:46 +0000
From: Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas

All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 

Thanks
Kyle 
KC3FMP 


   

From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  9 08:27:09 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:27:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
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	<0BCD3590-F014-4C98-ADF6-00488A8BDFBD@outlook.com>
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Kyle
I am suspicious there may be a connection problem with your dipole -- no way does a center fed with each leg at 33 feet not have a good SWR somewhere near 7 MHz.? when you cited 2.6 minimum SWR, I have seen this kind of number when one side is not connected to the coax.? 

Balun.? maybe lots of opinions here -- but practically for a dipole close to the earth - its pattern will not greatly change when using a balun.? I confess I have never used a balun on an HF dipole.? (I would on something like a 20m dipole up at 40 feet).? 

let me know what you think is broken on the R5.? if you look inside the box at the base you will see there are too large toroid coils in there.? hopefully those are not cracked -- but even if they are -- they could be glued back together with epoxy.? of course the wires connected these to the coax connector need to be intact -- honestly nothing else in there.? everything else is just a metal-to-metal connection.? 

I am remembering the wire rods at the base are rather flimsey - and should have survived.? any bent metal on the rods at the top could likely be straightened in a vise - or if not too badly bent - you may not notice any change in performance.? these rods add capacitance near the top of the antenna - maybe doing a little more than merely making the antenna look more cool (as the antenna is a bit short on 20m -- these rods likely do bring the resonance down lower in frequency).? 

hang in there -- antenna damage does happen --see if you can find why the dipole may not be connected to coax on both sides.? while this can be done visually, perhaps, if you have a DVM measure continuity from each wire to the feed end of the coax, to see if indeed you have an open.? Alert us if you are short anything material wise.? 

Curt
 

    On Sunday, October 8, 2017 9:04 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
 

 Thanks Dave ill look into that!

Curt,
I never liked how it was set up either but its the only thing im able to do because of the HOA we have. I wish I had the space and height for a wire because I think thats part of the problem. The dipole has been cut EXACTLY for 40m but its resonate (1:1swr) at right around 60m which I havent used and really dont plan to use it. I like the verticals because I can leave it up and I can get 4 or 5 bands out of them. The dipole doesn?t have a ballon on it so maybe thats the problem? I need to get some fiberglass poles that just slide into each other that I could put up 40ft and string the 40m wire off that as an inverted V. Would a balon solve that issue with the dipole and make it resonate on 40m? Right now its got about a 3:1 SWR across the whole band. 
Kyle 

> On Oct 8, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Kyle
> glad the R5 has done you some good -- and let's not assume it's dead.? 
> 
> bent metal damage -- this can be fixed with a vise - -and those radial things do not have to be perfectly straight.? I don't have a picture of your feedpoint damage -- I need a little more data or a picture.? 
> 
> i wasn't thrilled with your R5 installation anyway -- and I am more glad there seems to be no damage to the house!? 
> 
> let's re-group -- and get your dipole fixed.? I suggest ZERO spending on an antenna.? please let us know what you need to fix your dipole.? 
> 
> catch your breath and let's work this.? 
> 
> BTW - the ONLY magic of the R5 is its ability to match all those bands - as a radiator it is NO better than any other piece of metal - except for its ability to accept the RF on all those bands.? a pair of dipoles (even as inverted V) can beat it on 20 and 40 meters - the best bands right now.? 
> 
> Curt
> 
> 
>? ? On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:07 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All,
> So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 
> 
> The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 
> 
> I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 
> 
> So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 
> 
> I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 
> 
> What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 
> 
> Thanks
> Kyle 
> KC3FMP 
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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Mon Oct  9 08:55:55 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:55:55 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
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Curt,
I will open that up after class today and take a look inside. I?ve found 1:1 baluns on eBay for $40 or so wasn?t sure if those would help. When the hurricane passes I will finish taking the dipole down and open it up (hopefully). The one leg is still up on the tower when I was trying it out as a sloper. I don?t have the coax actually cut. There?s an SO239 inside the PVC casing I made (and cemented together) and one leg goes from the center pin and the other goes from one of the screws on the SO239 it?s self. Last time I tried to strip coax I went through a whole 25ft section (radio shack coax so it?s fine) when I string the legs out I try and get them as tout as possible. Is that necessary or just pull them out and just lay them on the ground. I?ve been staking them down.
Kyle

On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
I am suspicious there may be a connection problem with your dipole -- no way does a center fed with each leg at 33 feet not have a good SWR somewhere near 7 MHz.  when you cited 2.6 minimum SWR, I have seen this kind of number when one side is not connected to the coax.

Balun.  maybe lots of opinions here -- but practically for a dipole close to the earth - its pattern will not greatly change when using a balun.  I confess I have never used a balun on an HF dipole.  (I would on something like a 20m dipole up at 40 feet).

let me know what you think is broken on the R5.  if you look inside the box at the base you will see there are too large toroid coils in there.  hopefully those are not cracked -- but even if they are -- they could be glued back together with epoxy.  of course the wires connected these to the coax connector need to be intact -- honestly nothing else in there.  everything else is just a metal-to-metal connection.

I am remembering the wire rods at the base are rather flimsey - and should have survived.  any bent metal on the rods at the top could likely be straightened in a vise - or if not too badly bent - you may not notice any change in performance.  these rods add capacitance near the top of the antenna - maybe doing a little more than merely making the antenna look more cool (as the antenna is a bit short on 20m -- these rods likely do bring the resonance down lower in frequency).

hang in there -- antenna damage does happen --see if you can find why the dipole may not be connected to coax on both sides.  while this can be done visually, perhaps, if you have a DVM measure continuity from each wire to the feed end of the coax, to see if indeed you have an open.  Alert us if you are short anything material wise.

Curt


   On Sunday, October 8, 2017 9:04 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


Thanks Dave ill look into that!

Curt,
I never liked how it was set up either but its the only thing im able to do because of the HOA we have. I wish I had the space and height for a wire because I think thats part of the problem. The dipole has been cut EXACTLY for 40m but its resonate (1:1swr) at right around 60m which I havent used and really dont plan to use it. I like the verticals because I can leave it up and I can get 4 or 5 bands out of them. The dipole doesn?t have a ballon on it so maybe thats the problem? I need to get some fiberglass poles that just slide into each other that I could put up 40ft and string the 40m wire off that as an inverted V. Would a balon solve that issue with the dipole and make it resonate on 40m? Right now its got about a 3:1 SWR across the whole band.
Kyle

On Oct 8, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
glad the R5 has done you some good -- and let's not assume it's dead.

bent metal damage -- this can be fixed with a vise - -and those radial things do not have to be perfectly straight.  I don't have a picture of your feedpoint damage -- I need a little more data or a picture.

i wasn't thrilled with your R5 installation anyway -- and I am more glad there seems to be no damage to the house!

let's re-group -- and get your dipole fixed.  I suggest ZERO spending on an antenna.  please let us know what you need to fix your dipole.

catch your breath and let's work this.

BTW - the ONLY magic of the R5 is its ability to match all those bands - as a radiator it is NO better than any other piece of metal - except for its ability to accept the RF on all those bands.  a pair of dipoles (even as inverted V) can beat it on 20 and 40 meters - the best bands right now.

Curt


    On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:07 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it.

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point.

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard.

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon.

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust.

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it.

Thanks
Kyle
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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  9 12:30:47 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:30:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
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Kyle
okay your reputation assembling coax is in question -- I rest my case that your dipole may be broken.? 

cheapest way to build a dipole is to use a short piece of PVC pipe.? take the coax through a hole you drill in the PVC - for mechanical support.? do the same with the antenna wires.? provide sound mechanical construction, so that you can solder the coax to the antenna wires.? with patience and reasonable tools, anyone can assemble a dipole.? 

no need to spend $40 for a balun for your application.? if you scrounge the hamfest maybe you can buy a center insulator with SO239 and screw lugs for the wires -- then it means putting a PL259 at each end of the coax.? either PVC pipe or a manufactured gizmo works as well.? 

in the fewer words -- a balun intends to keep RF from leaking back onto the coax - particularly the outside of the coax.? it most of the RF radiates from the wires, a little radiating from the coax won't even be noticed.? many so-called baluns may not work well anyway -- there are special antennas (like many beams) that need them - but usually not a dipole unless it is very well elevated.? 

Curt
 

    On Monday, October 9, 2017 8:56 AM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
 

 Curt,
I will open that up after class today and take a look inside. I?ve found 1:1 baluns on eBay for $40 or so wasn?t sure if those would help. When the hurricane passes I will finish taking the dipole down and open it up (hopefully). The one leg is still up on the tower when I was trying it out as a sloper. I don?t have the coax actually cut. There?s an SO239 inside the PVC casing I made (and cemented together) and one leg goes from the center pin and the other goes from one of the screws on the SO239 it?s self. Last time I tried to strip coax I went through a whole 25ft section (radio shack coax so it?s fine) when I string the legs out I try and get them as tout as possible. Is that necessary or just pull them out and just lay them on the ground. I?ve been staking them down.
Kyle

On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
I am suspicious there may be a connection problem with your dipole -- no way does a center fed with each leg at 33 feet not have a good SWR somewhere near 7 MHz.? when you cited 2.6 minimum SWR, I have seen this kind of number when one side is not connected to the coax.

Balun.? maybe lots of opinions here -- but practically for a dipole close to the earth - its pattern will not greatly change when using a balun.? I confess I have never used a balun on an HF dipole.? (I would on something like a 20m dipole up at 40 feet).

let me know what you think is broken on the R5.? if you look inside the box at the base you will see there are too large toroid coils in there.? hopefully those are not cracked -- but even if they are -- they could be glued back together with epoxy.? of course the wires connected these to the coax connector need to be intact -- honestly nothing else in there.? everything else is just a metal-to-metal connection.

I am remembering the wire rods at the base are rather flimsey - and should have survived.? any bent metal on the rods at the top could likely be straightened in a vise - or if not too badly bent - you may not notice any change in performance.? these rods add capacitance near the top of the antenna - maybe doing a little more than merely making the antenna look more cool (as the antenna is a bit short on 20m -- these rods likely do bring the resonance down lower in frequency).

hang in there -- antenna damage does happen --see if you can find why the dipole may not be connected to coax on both sides.? while this can be done visually, perhaps, if you have a DVM measure continuity from each wire to the feed end of the coax, to see if indeed you have an open.? Alert us if you are short anything material wise.

Curt


? On Sunday, October 8, 2017 9:04 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


Thanks Dave ill look into that!

Curt,
I never liked how it was set up either but its the only thing im able to do because of the HOA we have. I wish I had the space and height for a wire because I think thats part of the problem. The dipole has been cut EXACTLY for 40m but its resonate (1:1swr) at right around 60m which I havent used and really dont plan to use it. I like the verticals because I can leave it up and I can get 4 or 5 bands out of them. The dipole doesn?t have a ballon on it so maybe thats the problem? I need to get some fiberglass poles that just slide into each other that I could put up 40ft and string the 40m wire off that as an inverted V. Would a balon solve that issue with the dipole and make it resonate on 40m? Right now its got about a 3:1 SWR across the whole band.
Kyle

On Oct 8, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
glad the R5 has done you some good -- and let's not assume it's dead.

bent metal damage -- this can be fixed with a vise - -and those radial things do not have to be perfectly straight.? I don't have a picture of your feedpoint damage -- I need a little more data or a picture.

i wasn't thrilled with your R5 installation anyway -- and I am more glad there seems to be no damage to the house!

let's re-group -- and get your dipole fixed.? I suggest ZERO spending on an antenna.? please let us know what you need to fix your dipole.

catch your breath and let's work this.

BTW - the ONLY magic of the R5 is its ability to match all those bands - as a radiator it is NO better than any other piece of metal - except for its ability to accept the RF on all those bands.? a pair of dipoles (even as inverted V) can beat it on 20 and 40 meters - the best bands right now.

Curt


? ? On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:07 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it.

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point.

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard.

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon.

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust.

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it.

Thanks
Kyle
KC3FMP
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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Mon Oct  9 12:39:01 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 16:39:01 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
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So the problem is I assembled it wrong so really only one wire is radiating?

On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
okay your reputation assembling coax is in question -- I rest my case that your dipole may be broken.

cheapest way to build a dipole is to use a short piece of PVC pipe.  take the coax through a hole you drill in the PVC - for mechanical support.  do the same with the antenna wires.  provide sound mechanical construction, so that you can solder the coax to the antenna wires.  with patience and reasonable tools, anyone can assemble a dipole.

no need to spend $40 for a balun for your application.  if you scrounge the hamfest maybe you can buy a center insulator with SO239 and screw lugs for the wires -- then it means putting a PL259 at each end of the coax.  either PVC pipe or a manufactured gizmo works as well.

in the fewer words -- a balun intends to keep RF from leaking back onto the coax - particularly the outside of the coax.  it most of the RF radiates from the wires, a little radiating from the coax won't even be noticed.  many so-called baluns may not work well anyway -- there are special antennas (like many beams) that need them - but usually not a dipole unless it is very well elevated.

Curt


   On Monday, October 9, 2017 8:56 AM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


Curt,
I will open that up after class today and take a look inside. I?ve found 1:1 baluns on eBay for $40 or so wasn?t sure if those would help. When the hurricane passes I will finish taking the dipole down and open it up (hopefully). The one leg is still up on the tower when I was trying it out as a sloper. I don?t have the coax actually cut. There?s an SO239 inside the PVC casing I made (and cemented together) and one leg goes from the center pin and the other goes from one of the screws on the SO239 it?s self. Last time I tried to strip coax I went through a whole 25ft section (radio shack coax so it?s fine) when I string the legs out I try and get them as tout as possible. Is that necessary or just pull them out and just lay them on the ground. I?ve been staking them down.
Kyle

On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net><mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
I am suspicious there may be a connection problem with your dipole -- no way does a center fed with each leg at 33 feet not have a good SWR somewhere near 7 MHz.  when you cited 2.6 minimum SWR, I have seen this kind of number when one side is not connected to the coax.

Balun.  maybe lots of opinions here -- but practically for a dipole close to the earth - its pattern will not greatly change when using a balun.  I confess I have never used a balun on an HF dipole.  (I would on something like a 20m dipole up at 40 feet).

let me know what you think is broken on the R5.  if you look inside the box at the base you will see there are too large toroid coils in there.  hopefully those are not cracked -- but even if they are -- they could be glued back together with epoxy.  of course the wires connected these to the coax connector need to be intact -- honestly nothing else in there.  everything else is just a metal-to-metal connection.

I am remembering the wire rods at the base are rather flimsey - and should have survived.  any bent metal on the rods at the top could likely be straightened in a vise - or if not too badly bent - you may not notice any change in performance.  these rods add capacitance near the top of the antenna - maybe doing a little more than merely making the antenna look more cool (as the antenna is a bit short on 20m -- these rods likely do bring the resonance down lower in frequency).

hang in there -- antenna damage does happen --see if you can find why the dipole may not be connected to coax on both sides.  while this can be done visually, perhaps, if you have a DVM measure continuity from each wire to the feed end of the coax, to see if indeed you have an open.  Alert us if you are short anything material wise.

Curt


  On Sunday, October 8, 2017 9:04 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com><mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


Thanks Dave ill look into that!

Curt,
I never liked how it was set up either but its the only thing im able to do because of the HOA we have. I wish I had the space and height for a wire because I think thats part of the problem. The dipole has been cut EXACTLY for 40m but its resonate (1:1swr) at right around 60m which I havent used and really dont plan to use it. I like the verticals because I can leave it up and I can get 4 or 5 bands out of them. The dipole doesn?t have a ballon on it so maybe thats the problem? I need to get some fiberglass poles that just slide into each other that I could put up 40ft and string the 40m wire off that as an inverted V. Would a balon solve that issue with the dipole and make it resonate on 40m? Right now its got about a 3:1 SWR across the whole band.
Kyle

On Oct 8, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net><mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:

Kyle
glad the R5 has done you some good -- and let's not assume it's dead.

bent metal damage -- this can be fixed with a vise - -and those radial things do not have to be perfectly straight.  I don't have a picture of your feedpoint damage -- I need a little more data or a picture.

i wasn't thrilled with your R5 installation anyway -- and I am more glad there seems to be no damage to the house!

let's re-group -- and get your dipole fixed.  I suggest ZERO spending on an antenna.  please let us know what you need to fix your dipole.

catch your breath and let's work this.

BTW - the ONLY magic of the R5 is its ability to match all those bands - as a radiator it is NO better than any other piece of metal - except for its ability to accept the RF on all those bands.  a pair of dipoles (even as inverted V) can beat it on 20 and 40 meters - the best bands right now.

Curt


    On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:07 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com<mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com><mailto:kyle.3599 at outlook.com>> wrote:


All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it.

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point.

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard.

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon.

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust.

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it.

Thanks
Kyle
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From k3fpe at verizon.net  Mon Oct  9 15:30:01 2017
From: k3fpe at verizon.net (Benjamin Horton)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 19:30:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antennas
In-Reply-To: <E3100BBE-4A72-4C08-84C9-9B333CDE4C77@outlook.com>
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Take it apart and put everything, screws, bolts, fittings and all into storage bins, mailing tubes and/or other containers. ?You can work around input fittings and fasteners that may be cosmetically damaged, but can be bent into shape or re-manufactured. ?Unless metal has been ripped apart, it is a fixable unit. ?Just store it away for the moment and go back to it later. ?You have a lot of resources available and all is not lost. ?Take it to the hamfest and let the folks look it over and make some suggestions about low cost fixes. ?Regards, Joe ?K3FPE

    On Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:06 PM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
 

 All,
So last Thursday was a pretty good day until I came down the hill behind my house going into my neighborhood. I usually always look over at my antennas just because why not. Well when I looked over this time I noticed the R5 Vertical had fallen and was hanging partly on the gutter and partly on the VHF tower right next to it. 

The minute I got home I didn?t bother to do my homework because I was more concerned about what kind of damage I was looking at. I decided I was going to try and pull the R5 back up so I could safely take it down. But If anyone knows what kind of luck I have knows that didn?t happen as it was supposed to. The minute I put my hand on it, it came off the gutter and the tower and hit the rot iron railing and then onto the ground. One of the top radials is bent to about a 90 degree angle and since it was a permanent installation the coax was tight and it bent the SO-239 on the feed point. 

I am not strong enough to unbend the radial. I took everything apart to see what other damage done that there was. Took the feed point off and the screws preceded to fall out and theres no real way with out undoing the rivets to get them back in. I have a feeling the feed point is no longer good as it hit the railing pretty hard. 

So needless to say it wasn?t a very good day after that. My 40m wire is also not working the way it should but thats going to be worked out soon. 

I was looking into replacing the R5 but after I looked at the bank account I figured I should make a budget first because that was another scary scene. I financially can not afford to replace the antenna no matter how bad I want to. It just wont happen. I was going to wait and get a QSO King but I have a very strong feeling thats not going to be feasible either. So now I have a VERY nice 891 thats collecting dust. 

What does everyone suggest the next step should be? Ill probably be out of the hobby until I can get this done and I really don?t do VHF that much except to talk to mike. Everything is just to expensive and with out a job theres really nothing I can do. Im really not happy about any of this because I liked that R5 A LOT! Made TONs of good QSOs with it. 

Thanks
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From marksro at comcast.net  Mon Oct  9 20:44:32 2017
From: marksro at comcast.net (Mark Rosenthal)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:44:32 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Minutes of General Meeting CCARC
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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Mon Oct  9 22:16:02 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 22:16:02 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Google Groups
Message-ID: <CAORoMxAKxM=GPbtF7PfRiepfE4VUBApB1h-cPQEaXzCF1ze_Lg@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I've just learned another characteristic of Google groups and that is that
the group does not process requests to join the group from non group
members.

To remedy this, to get on the group in advance of the shift, please send an
email to the club's email ccarc.k3pzn at gmail.com.  We'll get you on asap.


73,

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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 10 09:40:51 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:40:51 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Fwd: CARA - New Public Service Event - Patapsco Valley
	50K Ultramarathon
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All,

For any interested, I just received this from Andy Protigal, President of
the CARA club.  It presents another opportunity to support the community
and learn how to do these things.
I encourage you to volunteer and if I'm town I intend to help.

Please feel free to respond directly to Andy.

73,

Pete
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andy Protigal <awprotigal at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:29 AM
Subject: CARA - New Public Service Event - Patapsco Valley 50K Ultramarathon
To:


All -

The organizers of the Patapsco Trail Fest running event have asked that we
support another one of their Patapsco events - the Patapsco Valley 50K on
Saturday October 28th.  This event is very similar to the MD HEAT event and
the course follows many of the same trails in the Avalon, Orange Grove and
Hilton areas.   Given your past support to the Patapsco events we have
supported, I thought I would reach out to you directly to see if you would
be interested in supporting this event.

Some details as follows:
- Refer to the following link for additional event information -
https://whiteoakrunning.com/events/patapsco-50k/.
- Start/Finish will be at Pavilion 105 in the Avalon area - same as for the
MD HEAT
- Four Aid Stations will be set up - one is the same location as Aid
Station 3 for the MD HEAT, one will be at the Start / Finish and the others
will be at vehicle accessible locations along the perimeter of the park.
- Though our focus will be manning the Aid Stations, there are many
opportunities to operate on the trail - to include some of the locations we
have placed folks for the MD HEAT, and other new locations.
- Anticipate 300 participants
- Event will run 07:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M., and I believe there are cut off
times (given day light conditions)

I will add that we were asked to support this event given how we have
supported the Patapsco Trail Fest events of the past two years.  So, I
think we should all be very happy about that recognition.

Refer to the following link if you are interested in supporting this event.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScYlIkZzrUt9XXB8_
oBSrDjLLPWS5Cp9mhuaabPX-uTYC-1uQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks

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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 10 11:53:55 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:53:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Seeking Keyer and Straight Key
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Jeff
fantastic news on your willingness to pursue CW.? its a fun mode - and there are cool, small, inexpensive rigs also that major in CW.? 

key.? my own experience, I send just as well on a J38 replica (maybe $20-40 market value) versus something more exotic.? 

paddle.? in my experience, it is better to spend a little more to get what you can send well with.? you may wish to gather new prices on Bencher, Kent and any other 'common' moderate priced units - so you will recognize a good used deal.? I would spend a little more if you can.? 

electronic keyer.? these are now very inexpensive.? 4stateQRP may have a nice keyer kit - with built in memories.? don't overspend here -- likely for a while the keyer inside your TS480 will do just fine !? 

have fun with this.? if you are willing to sometimes use a straight key -- the straight key century club (SKCC) typically have several CW ops in training on our chat page - folk will QRS to give you some practice.? 

Curt
 

    On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:20 AM, KC3HWU via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
 

 In advance of our upcoming Hamfest I thought I would put this out for
our club members. Just trying to shop local. 

I am seeking a keyer paddle with a 3.5 mm 3-conductor plug. The paddle
is for a Kenwood TS-480 with an internal electronic keyer. Alternatively
I can use an electronic keyer with a 2-conductor plug (also 3.5 mm). The
external electronic keyer must have a positive keying output. I am also
looking for a straight key with a 3.5 mm 2-conductor plug. 

Being my first dabble into CW I am looking for a modest start. Thanks.

73 de KC3HWU 

Jeff
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From k4cgy at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 10 13:53:56 2017
From: k4cgy at yahoo.com (James Owen)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 17:53:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Seeking Keyer and Straight Key
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Hi Jeff,??? Being a former member of CCARC? I still read the email.? I have an un-needed Bencher Chrome Paddle.? It's in good shape but does have a few marks on the chrome but otherwise great condition and it has the optional plastic cover to keep out the dust.? It looks like the newest ones now made by MFJ go for $205.00!? I will let this one go for $100.00 including shipping to you and will put on a 3.5mm plug to replace the 1/4" one now on it.

73 Jim
?James C. Owen, III K4CGY

      From: KC3HWU via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
 To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:20 AM
 Subject: [K3PZN-List] Seeking Keyer and Straight Key
   
In advance of our upcoming Hamfest I thought I would put this out for
our club members. Just trying to shop local. 

I am seeking a keyer paddle with a 3.5 mm 3-conductor plug. The paddle
is for a Kenwood TS-480 with an internal electronic keyer. Alternatively
I can use an electronic keyer with a 2-conductor plug (also 3.5 mm). The
external electronic keyer must have a positive keying output. I am also
looking for a straight key with a 3.5 mm 2-conductor plug. 

Being my first dabble into CW I am looking for a modest start. Thanks.

73 de KC3HWU 

Jeff
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Tue Oct 10 15:45:26 2017
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (kb3vwk at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:45:26 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Seeking Keyer and Straight Key
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	<650343607.5164494.1507658036665@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi James 

The club may have a bencher keyer you could borrow 

Ray Kc3rw 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:53 PM, James Owen via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeff,    Being a former member of CCARC  I still read the email.  I have an un-needed Bencher Chrome Paddle.  It's in good shape but does have a few marks on the chrome but otherwise great condition and it has the optional plastic cover to keep out the dust.  It looks like the newest ones now made by MFJ go for $205.00!  I will let this one go for $100.00 including shipping to you and will put on a 3.5mm plug to replace the 1/4" one now on it.
> 
> 73 Jim
>  James C. Owen, III K4CGY
> 
>      From: KC3HWU via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
> To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:20 AM
> Subject: [K3PZN-List] Seeking Keyer and Straight Key
> 
> In advance of our upcoming Hamfest I thought I would put this out for
> our club members. Just trying to shop local. 
> 
> I am seeking a keyer paddle with a 3.5 mm 3-conductor plug. The paddle
> is for a Kenwood TS-480 with an internal electronic keyer. Alternatively
> I can use an electronic keyer with a 2-conductor plug (also 3.5 mm). The
> external electronic keyer must have a positive keying output. I am also
> looking for a straight key with a 3.5 mm 2-conductor plug. 
> 
> Being my first dabble into CW I am looking for a modest start. Thanks.
> 
> 73 de KC3HWU 
> 
> Jeff
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From hamster749 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 11 17:02:18 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:02:18 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
Message-ID: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>

All:

 

Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday party, I
managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant in Hampstead.
Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.  We
will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if you will
be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.

 

John, AK3Z


From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Wed Oct 11 17:03:29 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 21:03:29 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
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John,
I?ll be there. Not bringing any guests.
Kyle
KC3FMP

On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:02 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net<mailto:hamster749 at comcast.net>> wrote:

All:



Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday party, I
managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant in Hampstead.
Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.  We
will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if you will
be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.



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From ddodson at simpleitcare.com  Wed Oct 11 19:00:29 2017
From: ddodson at simpleitcare.com (David Dodson)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 23:00:29 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
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David Dodson - 2 people total
KC3AZQ

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2017, at 6:02 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net<mailto:hamster749 at comcast.net>> wrote:

All:



Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday party, I
managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant in Hampstead.
Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.  We
will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if you will
be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.



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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 20:32:17 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 20:32:17 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
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John,

Definitely one for me (Pete, WV3S) and possibly two depending.

Pete

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:02 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> All:
>
>
>
> Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday party,
> I
> managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant in Hampstead.
> Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.  We
> will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if you will
> be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> John, AK3Z
>
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From donald.gerkin at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 08:08:31 2017
From: donald.gerkin at gmail.com (Donald Gerkin Jr.)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:08:31 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
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I'll be in attending W3DVG

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 17:02, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
> 
> 
> Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday party, I
> managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant in Hampstead.
> Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.  We
> will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if you will
> be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> John, AK3Z
> 
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> 
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From hamster749 at comcast.net  Thu Oct 12 10:33:38 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:33:38 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxAM3CZshimfkBfaFEYG-Um-2qsQx1+-b5_nTcmUBheDfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>
	<CAORoMxAM3CZshimfkBfaFEYG-Um-2qsQx1+-b5_nTcmUBheDfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004e01d34367$188c59a0$49a50ce0$@net>

Pete,

Is that 1 AND 2 (total 3) or is it 1 OR 2?  Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Hiltz
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:32 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM

John,

Definitely one for me (Pete, WV3S) and possibly two depending.

Pete

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:02 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> All:
>
>
>
> Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday 
> party, I managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant 
> in Hampstead.
> Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.  
> We will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if 
> you will be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> John, AK3Z
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 10:48:10 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:48:10 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
In-Reply-To: <004e01d34367$188c59a0$49a50ce0$@net>
References: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>
	<CAORoMxAM3CZshimfkBfaFEYG-Um-2qsQx1+-b5_nTcmUBheDfA@mail.gmail.com>
	<004e01d34367$188c59a0$49a50ce0$@net>
Message-ID: <CAORoMxBTRKwsH_ffghZ9rzyzXDVLrGmXpvWWHHj-ARJNpTN7Bw@mail.gmail.com>

1 OR 2.  Probably 1 as the xyl does not like to go out after dark and is
not interested in the ham radio group.   I'll keep pestering her.

Pete

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:33 AM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Pete,
>
> Is that 1 AND 2 (total 3) or is it 1 OR 2?  Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Hiltz
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:32 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
>
> John,
>
> Definitely one for me (Pete, WV3S) and possibly two depending.
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:02 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> >
> >
> > Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday
> > party, I managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant
> > in Hampstead.
> > Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.
> > We will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me if
> > you will be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > John, AK3Z
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> >
> > 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > K3PZN-List mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/k3pzn-list
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
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From hamster749 at comcast.net  Thu Oct 12 10:52:00 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:52:00 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxBTRKwsH_ffghZ9rzyzXDVLrGmXpvWWHHj-ARJNpTN7Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>	<CAORoMxAM3CZshimfkBfaFEYG-Um-2qsQx1+-b5_nTcmUBheDfA@mail.gmail.com>	<004e01d34367$188c59a0$49a50ce0$@net>
	<CAORoMxBTRKwsH_ffghZ9rzyzXDVLrGmXpvWWHHj-ARJNpTN7Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007501d34369$a996dd60$fcc49820$@net>

Got it.

-----Original Message-----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Hiltz
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:48 AM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM

1 OR 2.  Probably 1 as the xyl does not like to go out after dark and is
not interested in the ham radio group.   I'll keep pestering her.

Pete

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 10:33 AM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Pete,
>
> Is that 1 AND 2 (total 3) or is it 1 OR 2?  Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Hiltz
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:32 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
>
> John,
>
> Definitely one for me (Pete, WV3S) and possibly two depending.
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:02 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > All:
> >
> >
> >
> > Since we all enjoyed the atmosphere and food at last year's holiday 
> > party, I managed to reserve the room for this year at J&P Restaurant 
> > in Hampstead.
> > Right now we are scheduled for Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM.
> > We will need to give them a headcount shortly.  So please email me 
> > if you will be attending and how many guests you will be bringing.
Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > John, AK3Z
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> >
> > 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > K3PZN-List mailing list
> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/k3pzn-list
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> >
>
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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 16:08:03 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 16:08:03 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Education Committee
Message-ID: <CAORoMxD7PM82oZC6YJJ7+gzgxQE9=O3bv0ANz6SRTv3Q_ECnKg@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I'm very happy to announce that Nancy, KC3HEW, has volunteered to lead the
Education Committee.

As it stands, the committee is Nancy and as required by the bylaws, me,
giving two folks.  Look for an email from her asking if anyone else wants
to jump on board before the work researching a plan starts.

73,

Pete

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From kb3imt at gmx.com  Thu Oct 12 17:47:40 2017
From: kb3imt at gmx.com (Sean Shaffer)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 23:47:40 +0200
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Google Groups
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxAKxM=GPbtF7PfRiepfE4VUBApB1h-cPQEaXzCF1ze_Lg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAORoMxAKxM=GPbtF7PfRiepfE4VUBApB1h-cPQEaXzCF1ze_Lg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <trinity-cda9eeb7-cea1-4540-a961-06b5ba69482f-1507844860451@3c-app-mailcom-bs09>

> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 4:16 AM
> From: "Peter Hiltz" <pmhiltz at gmail.com>

> I've just learned another characteristic of Google groups and that is that
> the group does not process requests to join the group from non group
> members.
> 
> To remedy this, to get on the group in advance of the shift, please send an
> email to the club's email ccarc.k3pzn at gmail.com.  We'll get you on asap.

Pete is there a way to have Google Groups insert a tag into the subject line like the qth list does ?

I like being able to see when a message is forwarded by the list as opposed to a message sent privately, but since the email address of the sender is displayed by both the subject line is a good indicator.

I notice the email from Mark about the roster does indicate that it is from Google Docs but I don't recall seeing that from Google Groups. Also because I am having trouble with the google group that could also be why but still like the indicator in the subject line.

Sean KB3IMT

From wo3l.andy at gmail.com  Mon Oct 16 15:49:21 2017
From: wo3l.andy at gmail.com (Andrew Leeds)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:49:21 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
Message-ID: <362a40a8-8eb7-a126-7847-aa89598a0139@gmail.com>

This Sunday is the hamfest. Always looking for volunteers to help during 
the event BUT if you can't be there Sunday here is another opportunity - 
we are going to park a truck next to the dumpster and tell people to not 
put radio stuff in the dumpster but that means Monday we'll to make a 
dump run (does anyone have their one of their free dump passes left that 
they won't use?). I'll be on a plane for my next work trip so I can't do 
it, is there someone available during dump hours on Monday?

Andy


From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Mon Oct 16 15:56:22 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:56:22 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
In-Reply-To: <362a40a8-8eb7-a126-7847-aa89598a0139@gmail.com>
References: <362a40a8-8eb7-a126-7847-aa89598a0139@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAORoMxA=v1N14hpebM4-a0qvLHLj5mBXWx-Yn0JQwseJHJHe8g@mail.gmail.com>

Andy,

I'm good for that.  I'll have my truck up there and have a pass, and am
happy to separate trash from recycleables.

Pete

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Andrew Leeds <wo3l.andy at gmail.com> wrote:

> This Sunday is the hamfest. Always looking for volunteers to help during
> the event BUT if you can't be there Sunday here is another opportunity - we
> are going to park a truck next to the dumpster and tell people to not put
> radio stuff in the dumpster but that means Monday we'll to make a dump run
> (does anyone have their one of their free dump passes left that they won't
> use?). I'll be on a plane for my next work trip so I can't do it, is there
> someone available during dump hours on Monday?
>
> Andy
>
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>
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From hamster749 at comcast.net  Tue Oct 17 08:48:57 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:48:57 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Holiday Dinner List Weekly Update
Message-ID: <000601d34746$4cc33260$e6499720$@net>

All,

 

Below is a list of those who have contacted me so far.  If you plan to
attend on December 10th please let me know.  Even if you are not sure (or if
you are not sure of the total number) please let me know as we have to have
adequate space reserved for the event.  Thanks!

 


Name

Call

Number Attending


John Chesley

AK3Z

1


Kyle Thornton

KC3FMP

1


Phil Karras

KE3FL

1


David Dodson

KC3AZQ

2


Pete Hiltz

WV3S

2


Donald Gerkin

W3DVG

1


Pete Morton

W3GVX

2


John Ohm

W8IS

1


Mike Fisher

N3VOP

1

 

 

John, AK3Z


From john_k3kwo at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 17 10:37:26 2017
From: john_k3kwo at hotmail.com (John Hart)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:37:26 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Holiday Dinner List Weekly Update
In-Reply-To: <000601d34746$4cc33260$e6499720$@net>
References: <000601d34746$4cc33260$e6499720$@net>
Message-ID: <CY4PR01MB325698F5A1935AF8BBDF3A40B84C0@CY4PR01MB3256.prod.exchangelabs.com>

John,
Sorry for the delay, but put me down for (1) for now and maybe one more.
John Hart, K3KWO


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:49 AM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> 
> Below is a list of those who have contacted me so far.  If you plan to
> attend on December 10th please let me know.  Even if you are not sure (or if
> you are not sure of the total number) please let me know as we have to have
> adequate space reserved for the event.  Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Name
> 
> Call
> 
> Number Attending
> 
> 
> John Chesley
> 
> AK3Z
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Kyle Thornton
> 
> KC3FMP
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Phil Karras
> 
> KE3FL
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> David Dodson
> 
> KC3AZQ
> 
> 2
> 
> 
> Pete Hiltz
> 
> WV3S
> 
> 2
> 
> 
> Donald Gerkin
> 
> W3DVG
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Pete Morton
> 
> W3GVX
> 
> 2
> 
> 
> John Ohm
> 
> W8IS
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Mike Fisher
> 
> N3VOP
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John, AK3Z
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> 
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From marksro at comcast.net  Tue Oct 17 12:09:09 2017
From: marksro at comcast.net (Mark Rosenthal)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 12:09:09 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Holiday Dinner List Weekly Update
In-Reply-To: <000601d34746$4cc33260$e6499720$@net>
References: <000601d34746$4cc33260$e6499720$@net>
Message-ID: <4392BD0F-B876-4733-B600-655DDC5A9986@comcast.net>

Mark Rosenthal
W3MSR
One attending
thanks


> On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:48 AM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> 
> Below is a list of those who have contacted me so far.  If you plan to
> attend on December 10th please let me know.  Even if you are not sure (or if
> you are not sure of the total number) please let me know as we have to have
> adequate space reserved for the event.  Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Name
> 
> Call
> 
> Number Attending
> 
> 
> John Chesley
> 
> AK3Z
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Kyle Thornton
> 
> KC3FMP
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Phil Karras
> 
> KE3FL
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> David Dodson
> 
> KC3AZQ
> 
> 2
> 
> 
> Pete Hiltz
> 
> WV3S
> 
> 2
> 
> 
> Donald Gerkin
> 
> W3DVG
> 
> 1
> 
> 
> Pete Morton
> 
> W3GVX
> 
> 2
> 
> 
> John Ohm
> 
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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 20:51:20 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 20:51:20 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING
Message-ID: <CAORoMxCs0zHkJ+DR7sdq1jAbYHkJMP-_nZC0_X2S5gr8yChFXA@mail.gmail.com>

All,

This is a last call to let me know, if you are taking a table or tailgate
space, what you will be bringing , in general terms, so I can advertise it
both on the website and on a flyer I intend to send to the other ham club's
leadership.

If you will be selling something we share the same goal: getting customers
to come and buy your treasures.

I will be finalizing the flyer at 0900 tomorrow, Wednesday morning.

Thanks, and I hope to see you Sunday.

73,

Pete

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From n3vop at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 17 22:05:00 2017
From: n3vop at hotmail.com (Michael Fisher)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 02:05:00 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxCs0zHkJ+DR7sdq1jAbYHkJMP-_nZC0_X2S5gr8yChFXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAORoMxCs0zHkJ+DR7sdq1jAbYHkJMP-_nZC0_X2S5gr8yChFXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR15MB1868E596878CFFBAB8408F59FB4D0@DM5PR15MB1868.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

As you know - I sell LMR400 solid & flex and LMR240 solid & flex.  I also have 2m/450 J-pole antennas. I also have Laser pens in green, red, & blue.

Mike Fisher    Fisher Cable


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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:51 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING

All,

This is a last call to let me know, if you are taking a table or tailgate
space, what you will be bringing , in general terms, so I can advertise it
both on the website and on a flyer I intend to send to the other ham club's
leadership.

If you will be selling something we share the same goal: getting customers
to come and buy your treasures.

I will be finalizing the flyer at 0900 tomorrow, Wednesday morning.

Thanks, and I hope to see you Sunday.

73,

Pete

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From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 22:10:02 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:10:02 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING
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Mike,

I'll add a note that you will be there as a cable vendor.  Last chance of
the season.

Pete

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Michael Fisher <n3vop at hotmail.com> wrote:

> As you know - I sell LMR400 solid & flex and LMR240 solid & flex.  I also
> have 2m/450 J-pole antennas. I also have Laser pens in green, red, & blue.
>
> Mike Fisher    Fisher Cable
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net <k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
> qth.net> on behalf of Peter Hiltz <pmhiltz at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING
>
> All,
>
> This is a last call to let me know, if you are taking a table or tailgate
> space, what you will be bringing , in general terms, so I can advertise it
> both on the website and on a flyer I intend to send to the other ham club's
> leadership.
>
> If you will be selling something we share the same goal: getting customers
> to come and buy your treasures.
>
> I will be finalizing the flyer at 0900 tomorrow, Wednesday morning.
>
> Thanks, and I hope to see you Sunday.
>
> 73,
>
> Pete
>
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From bigfoot1844 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 18 09:48:14 2017
From: bigfoot1844 at comcast.net (Wayne)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 09:48:14 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
In-Reply-To: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>
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Message-ID: <30ec08d5-cc69-08bc-3280-57de6d652ab7@comcast.net>

John,

Wayne N3UN 1 attending

From wo3l at comcast.net  Wed Oct 18 19:36:02 2017
From: wo3l at comcast.net (Andrew Leeds)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:36:02 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
Message-ID: <cb52054e-b376-2522-5a79-220c294c1171@comcast.net>

The weather for Sunday looks great, 74 and sunny.

We'll need people from 6-11AM to sell spots and help direct people 
around. Also someone will need to wander around and collect from the 
early birds who get in way too early for us.

If we have multiple people available that will let us each spend less 
time at the gate and get a chance to walk around and enjoy the event.

Andy


From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 19:55:47 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 19:55:47 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
In-Reply-To: <cb52054e-b376-2522-5a79-220c294c1171@comcast.net>
References: <cb52054e-b376-2522-5a79-220c294c1171@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAORoMxDjy7krkPgs8-ySfpfE4vRQdDV18VOrnDMKcMiiCrM_Mg@mail.gmail.com>

Andy,

I can be there at 6.

Pete

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Leeds <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:

> The weather for Sunday looks great, 74 and sunny.
>
> We'll need people from 6-11AM to sell spots and help direct people around.
> Also someone will need to wander around and collect from the early birds
> who get in way too early for us.
>
> If we have multiple people available that will let us each spend less time
> at the gate and get a chance to walk around and enjoy the event.
>
> Andy
>
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From marksro at comcast.net  Wed Oct 18 23:04:02 2017
From: marksro at comcast.net (Mark Rosenthal)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 23:04:02 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxDjy7krkPgs8-ySfpfE4vRQdDV18VOrnDMKcMiiCrM_Mg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <E56E9D3A-9AA6-49D7-9592-2F9CCDF66F91@comcast.net>

I should be there at 6 as well
Mark

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Peter Hiltz <pmhiltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Andy,
> 
> I can be there at 6.
> 
> Pete
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Leeds <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> The weather for Sunday looks great, 74 and sunny.
>> 
>> We'll need people from 6-11AM to sell spots and help direct people around.
>> Also someone will need to wander around and collect from the early birds
>> who get in way too early for us.
>> 
>> If we have multiple people available that will let us each spend less time
>> at the gate and get a chance to walk around and enjoy the event.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> 
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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Thu Oct 19 10:50:51 2017
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:50:51 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
In-Reply-To: <30ec08d5-cc69-08bc-3280-57de6d652ab7@comcast.net>
References: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>
	<30ec08d5-cc69-08bc-3280-57de6d652ab7@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC4C@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hello John, 

Pat N8PK for one (1) attending our Holiday Party on Sun Dec 10, possibly a second to RSVP, will know for sure after the AMSAT symposium at the end of this month.  

Cheers,

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne [mailto:bigfoot1844 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:48 AM
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM

John,

Wayne N3UN 1 attending


From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Thu Oct 19 10:54:45 2017
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:54:45 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxDjy7krkPgs8-ySfpfE4vRQdDV18VOrnDMKcMiiCrM_Mg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cb52054e-b376-2522-5a79-220c294c1171@comcast.net>
	<CAORoMxDjy7krkPgs8-ySfpfE4vRQdDV18VOrnDMKcMiiCrM_Mg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC65@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hi Andy,

I hope to arrive at our hamfest by about 7:00 AM to help.  Please send any needed communications to me at Patrick.L.Kilroy at nasa.gov, otherwise I will just show up willing and ready to work with the guys!  

I'm not sure how long I can stay, likely at least until 10, maybe through 11 AM?  I will know by 7.  

73 de Pat N8PK

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Hiltz [mailto:pmhiltz at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:56 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest

Andy,

I can be there at 6.

Pete

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Leeds <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:

> The weather for Sunday looks great, 74 and sunny.
>
> We'll need people from 6-11AM to sell spots and help direct people around.
> Also someone will need to wander around and collect from the early 
> birds who get in way too early for us.
>
> If we have multiple people available that will let us each spend less 
> time at the gate and get a chance to walk around and enjoy the event.
>
> Andy
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Thu Oct 19 11:14:16 2017
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:14:16 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxCVupMM3zm-LzFT_AXmp8G5gQweXWJ31ijUE_o2MuBgZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAORoMxCs0zHkJ+DR7sdq1jAbYHkJMP-_nZC0_X2S5gr8yChFXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<DM5PR15MB1868E596878CFFBAB8408F59FB4D0@DM5PR15MB1868.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAORoMxCVupMM3zm-LzFT_AXmp8G5gQweXWJ31ijUE_o2MuBgZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC8B@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hey Mike N3VOP, 

Are your J-poles single band or dual band?   If the latter, and you have one cut for 2m/440 MHz (as opposed to /450 MHz), then save one for me!  No reply needed.  See you there.  

BTW, I hope all hams in our club are converting their fixed stations to LMR-400 cable, and phasing out their RG-8, RG-213 and Belden 9913 cables because today the mechanical and electrical properties of LMR-400 are so much improved.  (I have!)  

Thank you for providing such a good product, good service and good prices for us.  

To another great Mason-Dixon hamfest!  

Cheers,

Pat N8PK

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Hiltz [mailto:pmhiltz at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:10 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] LAST CALL for HAMFEST ADVERTISING

Mike,

I'll add a note that you will be there as a cable vendor.  Last chance of the season.

Pete

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Michael Fisher <n3vop at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> As you know - I sell LMR400 solid & flex and LMR240 solid & flex.  I 
> also have 2m/450 J-pole antennas. I also have Laser pens in green, red, & blue.
>
> Mike Fisher    Fisher Cable
>
[snip]


From hamster749 at comcast.net  Thu Oct 19 13:02:40 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:02:40 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC4C@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <004501d342d4$3a03e4b0$ae0bae10$@net>	<30ec08d5-cc69-08bc-3280-57de6d652ab7@comcast.net>
	<93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC4C@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <003901d348fc$1327f2e0$3977d8a0$@net>

Ok, Pat.  I have you down for two......for now.

-----Original Message-----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kilroy, Patrick L.
(GSFC-5680)
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 10:51 AM
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM

Hello John, 

Pat N8PK for one (1) attending our Holiday Party on Sun Dec 10, possibly a
second to RSVP, will know for sure after the AMSAT symposium at the end of
this month.  

Cheers,

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne [mailto:bigfoot1844 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 9:48 AM
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Party Sunday December 10 @ 5:00 PM

John,

Wayne N3UN 1 attending

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From mwwalker at gmail.com  Thu Oct 19 20:24:10 2017
From: mwwalker at gmail.com (Matt Walker)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 00:24:10 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC65@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <cb52054e-b376-2522-5a79-220c294c1171@comcast.net>
	<CAORoMxDjy7krkPgs8-ySfpfE4vRQdDV18VOrnDMKcMiiCrM_Mg@mail.gmail.com>
	<93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357CC65@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <CAC7Jax_xL1pA6U7bTqtymm40MhUVSuyzKUW_qUbyT3_LzFvdNQ@mail.gmail.com>

I plan to be there at 7 and will help with whatever is needed.

-Matt K3WAZ

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <
patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> I hope to arrive at our hamfest by about 7:00 AM to help.  Please send any
> needed communications to me at Patrick.L.Kilroy at nasa.gov, otherwise I
> will just show up willing and ready to work with the guys!
>
> I'm not sure how long I can stay, likely at least until 10, maybe through
> 11 AM?  I will know by 7.
>
> 73 de Pat N8PK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Hiltz [mailto:pmhiltz at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:56 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest
>
> Andy,
>
> I can be there at 6.
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Andrew Leeds <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The weather for Sunday looks great, 74 and sunny.
> >
> > We'll need people from 6-11AM to sell spots and help direct people
> around.
> > Also someone will need to wander around and collect from the early
> > birds who get in way too early for us.
> >
> > If we have multiple people available that will let us each spend less
> > time at the gate and get a chance to walk around and enjoy the event.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
> >
> > 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Fri Oct 20 08:40:38 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:40:38 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Call sign change
Message-ID: <DM5PR1401MB19461421FDD507957EC1C5BDEF430@DM5PR1401MB1946.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

All,
My quest for Amateur Extra is officially complete. This morning I was officially granted the vanity call sign W3GXP. I hope this new call brings lots of luck with contesting. I plan on keeping it for a very long time. Now I have to go through and change all my accounts. That won?t be as fun.
Kyle
W3GXP

From hamster749 at comcast.net  Fri Oct 20 08:59:05 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 08:59:05 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Dinner Attendee Update
Message-ID: <001d01d349a3$366b60a0$a34221e0$@net>

All:

 

Here is the list as of today.  We currently have a total of 24 on the list.
If you have not sent me the total number of seats you will need  please let
me know ASAP.  Within the next week or so I will be speaking with the
restaurant and reserving a preliminary number of seats so I want to be sure
we have adequate space.  And if I missed anyone I apologize.  Thanks!

 


Name

Call

Number Attending


John Chesley

AK3Z

1


Kyle Thornton

W3GXP

1


Phil Karras

KE3FL

1


David Dodson

KC3AZQ

2


Pete Hiltz

WV3S

2


Donald Gerkin

W3DVG

1


Pete Morton

W3GVX

2


John Ohm

W8IS

1


Mike Fisher

N3VOP

1


Tony Krauth

KF3AK

1


Andy Leeds

WO3L

1


John Hart

K3KWO

2


Wayne Wilson

N3UN

1


Mark Rosenthal

W3MSR

1


Mike Coughlin

W3MBC

1


Pat Kilroy

N8PK

2


Larry Solarczyk

WX3F

1


Steve Beckman

N3SB

2

 


From ddrake10 at verizon.net  Fri Oct 20 09:07:03 2017
From: ddrake10 at verizon.net (Douglas Drake)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:07:03 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Dinner Attendee Update
Message-ID: <o7w97iacenjyvl7c9nkvm0fw.1508504823371@email.android.com>

Add me to the list please.

Doug Drake
K3CTT

On October 20, 2017, at 08:59, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net> wrote:

All:

 

Here is the list as of today.  We currently have a total of 24 on the list.
If you have not sent me the total number of seats you will need  please let
me know ASAP.  Within the next week or so I will be speaking with the
restaurant and reserving a preliminary number of seats so I want to be sure
we have adequate space.  And if I missed anyone I apologize.  Thanks!

 


Name

Call

Number Attending


John Chesley

AK3Z

1


Kyle Thornton

W3GXP

1


Phil Karras

KE3FL

1


David Dodson

KC3AZQ

2


Pete Hiltz

WV3S

2


Donald Gerkin

W3DVG

1


Pete Morton

W3GVX

2


John Ohm

W8IS

1


Mike Fisher

N3VOP

1


Tony Krauth

KF3AK

1


Andy Leeds

WO3L

1


John Hart

K3KWO

2


Wayne Wilson

N3UN

1


Mark Rosenthal

W3MSR

1


Mike Coughlin

W3MBC

1


Pat Kilroy

N8PK

2


Larry Solarczyk

WX3F

1


Steve Beckman

N3SB

2

 

______________________________________________________________

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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 20 10:08:44 2017
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:08:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Call sign change
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR1401MB19461421FDD507957EC1C5BDEF430@DM5PR1401MB1946.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DM5PR1401MB19461421FDD507957EC1C5BDEF430@DM5PR1401MB1946.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1449599227.1114830.1508508524713@mail.yahoo.com>

Kyle
FB.? I did a quick google search on your new call, and it was used in contests in the past - but maybe a long time ago.? It's previous holder was a member of the Frankford Radio Club up in Pennsylvania, but this was about 4 decades ago.? 

Yes hang your callsign out there in contests, DXing and other operating - and see where it goes.? 

Have you managed to connect your new rig to a contest logger such as N1MM, and have you connected N1MM to the cluster via telnet?? This gives you real time spots on your bandmap - a huge help in search and pounce.? I do suggest avoiding the big pile-ups and trying to sneak up on new signals before they are spotted (now harder to do with automated spotting).? Try this out in DXing before using it in a contest!? 

Enjoy the spectrum.? 

Curt
 

    On Friday, October 20, 2017 8:41 AM, Kyle Thornton <kyle.3599 at outlook.com> wrote:
 

 All,
My quest for Amateur Extra is officially complete. This morning I was officially granted the vanity call sign W3GXP. I hope this new call brings lots of luck with contesting. I plan on keeping it for a very long time. Now I have to go through and change all my accounts. That won?t be as fun.
Kyle
W3GXP
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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Sun Oct 22 17:16:14 2017
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 21:16:14 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest > An Outstanding Success Today!
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D1357E223@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

https://www.facebook.com/groups/k3pzn/

Hi all,

Please upload your favorite photos of the highly successful Mason-Dixon Hamfest to our K3PZN Facebook page today!  

And don't forget to click the link above or below to VISIT our club FB page.  You are empowered to support it as much as you like.  Please do!  

For ALL club events, announcements and activities!  

Cheers, 

DE Pat N8PK
Sykesville

https://www.facebook.com/groups/k3pzn/





From ccarc.k3pzn at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 16:46:25 2017
From: ccarc.k3pzn at gmail.com (ccarc k3pzn)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:46:25 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest and CW
Message-ID: <CAO-oGr=tKE2yDoktmkiBM1hRAKpq0CdUPjQy+PVMd5q3JF-7mg@mail.gmail.com>

All,

First, thanks to all who worked today to make the hamfest a success.  For
some, work started way before the show, and getting to Sportsman's Hall at
6 am was not something for the faint of heart.  Gatekeepers, club table
attendees, liaison with Sportsman's Hall, trash collectors, and, of course,
finance, all played a part.  The attendance looked larger than last year's
and we turned a number of unneeded club treasures into cash.  More to come
when the accounting is done.

Second, I've gotten positive comments about the idea of doing something
that encourages and improves our CW.  I heard a number of good options
today for ways to tackle the opportunity, and we've got two volunteers
(Jeff, KC3HWU, and Steve, N3SB) to work the issue.  One challenge is
inclusivity, that is, of the many potential options, which gives the
easiest entry for the most folks, whether related to cost, equipment, or
both.

To get started, we need to know your thoughts on how you would
participate.  For example, if you only have an HT, then QSO's on HF would
not work for you.  Likewise, if you don't have a 2-m rig that can send
code, anything on VHF might be a challenge.

What is the easiest way for you to send CW, including, for example,
tone-based CW over an FM channel?

Any other thoughts or suggestions would be welcome.

Once we have some sense of the membership, I'm sure Jeff and Steve will be
reaching out to plan the next, or maybe first, steps.

73,

Pete

-- 
Carroll County Amateur Radio Club, Inc.
k3pzn.net

From pmhiltz at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 09:09:47 2017
From: pmhiltz at gmail.com (Peter Hiltz)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 09:09:47 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest and CW
Message-ID: <CAORoMxA-2m7o+6AY5KusXBKk_ym=QpHw_C69J+LWPU-yk9BHhQ@mail.gmail.com>

All,

My apologies if you're already gotten this.

First, thanks to all who worked today to make the hamfest a success.  For
some, work started way before the show, and getting to Sportsman's Hall at 6
am was not something for the faint of heart.  Gatekeepers, club table
attendees, liaison with Sportsman's Hall, trash collectors, and, of course,
finance, all played a part.  The attendance looked larger than last year's
and we turned a number of unneeded club treasures into cash.  More to come
when the accounting is done.

Second, I've gotten positive comments about the idea of doing something
that encourages and improves our CW.  I heard a number of good options
today for ways to tackle the opportunity, and we've got two volunteers
(Jeff, KC3HWU, and Steve, N3SB) to work the issue.  One challenge is
inclusivity, that is, of the many potential options, which gives the
easiest entry for the most folks, whether related to cost, equipment, or
both.

To get started, we need to know your thoughts on how you would
participate.  For example, if you only have an HT, then QSO's on HF would
not work for you.  Likewise, if you don't have a 2-m rig that can send
code, anything on VHF might be a challenge.

What is the easiest way for you to send CW, including, for example,
tone-based CW over an FM channel?

Any other thoughts or suggestions would be welcome.

Once we have some sense of the membership, I'm sure Jeff and Steve will be
reaching out to plan the next, or maybe first, steps.

73,

Pete

-- 
*WV3S*
*Monitoring 146.52 MHz & the CCARC UHF Repeater*

From kyle.3599 at outlook.com  Mon Oct 23 16:15:34 2017
From: kyle.3599 at outlook.com (Kyle Thornton)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 20:15:34 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Antenna Update
Message-ID: <BN3PR14MB0786234D59E640D45586E5AEEF460@BN3PR14MB0786.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

All,
Great things are happening at W3GXP. Still haven?t put together the R5 again but the 40m wire works great! I?ve just confirmed that I can fit an 80m wire in my yard. So that being said before the SSB Sweepstakes Contest in November there will be an 80, 40, and 20m wires up. Before the end if the year there will be a 10m wire as well giving me an antenna on all of the contesting bands. 40m wire is good on 15m being the 3rd harmonic so that?s taken care of.

This is a BIG step forward for my station! I wish I could fit a 160m antenna but that just won?t be possible.

Next year my goal is to have a power amplifier as well. I?d like to get the highest power output I can on 120vac. 1k watts is preferred but 800watts will also do. Very happy with how the station is coming along.

I?m looking into getting a v71a for my car so I can have a cleaner install and not hurt the seat cushion like I?m currently doing. I found one cheap on eBay I?m bidding on. 1k watts out of a mono band antenna should display great results even if it is warming the clouds. That?s not a big concern of mine right now as I?ve got limited space and working with what I?ve got.

Right now next on the list that?s guaranteed is QSL cards. I also think I?m going to see if I can find a coax duplexer so I can have a dedicated radio on 40m. I?ve got the 706 and the 891. The 891 will probably stay there as the 706 is all band all mode until I can get another HF radio. Maybe another 891 or maybe a 950 as the prices are starting to come down on those. Only time will tell!
73
Kyle
W3GXP

From k3taz at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 24 11:46:07 2017
From: k3taz at hotmail.com (Fred Merker)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:46:07 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest and CW..................
In-Reply-To: <CAORoMxA-2m7o+6AY5KusXBKk_ym=QpHw_C69J+LWPU-yk9BHhQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BLUPR16MB04503B6A09A65AC44FCC98FBF8470@BLUPR16MB0450.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>

All:

           For the CW side of things: I could easily use modulated CW on 2 meter FM. I have a Code practice oscillator and 2 meter base rig.



Fred      K3TAZ






________________________________
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net <k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Peter Hiltz <pmhiltz at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 9:09 AM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Hamfest and CW

All,

My apologies if you're already gotten this.

First, thanks to all who worked today to make the hamfest a success.  For
some, work started way before the show, and getting to Sportsman's Hall at 6
am was not something for the faint of heart.  Gatekeepers, club table
attendees, liaison with Sportsman's Hall, trash collectors, and, of course,
finance, all played a part.  The attendance looked larger than last year's
and we turned a number of unneeded club treasures into cash.  More to come
when the accounting is done.

Second, I've gotten positive comments about the idea of doing something
that encourages and improves our CW.  I heard a number of good options
today for ways to tackle the opportunity, and we've got two volunteers
(Jeff, KC3HWU, and Steve, N3SB) to work the issue.  One challenge is
inclusivity, that is, of the many potential options, which gives the
easiest entry for the most folks, whether related to cost, equipment, or
both.

To get started, we need to know your thoughts on how you would
participate.  For example, if you only have an HT, then QSO's on HF would
not work for you.  Likewise, if you don't have a 2-m rig that can send
code, anything on VHF might be a challenge.

What is the easiest way for you to send CW, including, for example,
tone-based CW over an FM channel?

Any other thoughts or suggestions would be welcome.

Once we have some sense of the membership, I'm sure Jeff and Steve will be
reaching out to plan the next, or maybe first, steps.

73,

Pete

--
*WV3S*
*Monitoring 146.52 MHz & the CCARC UHF Repeater*
______________________________________________________________

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From hamster749 at comcast.net  Tue Oct 24 13:59:35 2017
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:59:35 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Holiday Dinner Attendee Update
Message-ID: <007001d34cf1$db0dcb60$91296220$@net>

All:

 

Here is the attendance list as of today:

 


Name

Call

Number Attending


John Chesley

AK3Z

1


Kyle Thornton

W3GXP

1


Phil Karras

KE3FL

1


David Dodson

KC3AZQ

2


Pete Hiltz

WV3S

2


Donald Gerkin

W3DVG

1


Pete Morton

W3GVX

2


John Ohm

W8IS

1


Mike Fisher

N3VOP

1


Tony Krauth

KF3AK

1


Andy Leeds

WO3L

1


John Hart

K3KWO

2


Wayne Wilson

N3UN

1


Mark Rosenthal

W3MSR

1


Mike Coughlin

W3MBC

1


Pat Kilroy

N8PK

2


Larry Solarczyk

WX3F

1


Steve Beckman

N3SB

2


Doug Drake

K3CTT

1


Henry Edwards

N2VAK

2

 

 

If you have not contacted me yet and wish to attend please do so ASAP as I
will be contacting the restaurant within the next week with a total
headcount.

 

Thanks!

John, AK3Z


