From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun  1 12:23:37 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:23:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] ARRL Field Day 2014 June 28th-29th Chairman Wanted
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Yeah they might seek to have us all committed.? Whatever suits your fancy.? 

Actually I am always impressed when NY3A shows up about an hour before start time and quickly deploys enough radiator to reach KH6.? 

Last year I thought we did a decent job but I long for the day when we don't erect those low tech mil masts that take 4 people to raise and more time to adjust.? Ok at least our monster generator on a trailer is gone. 

73 Curt

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sun Jun  1 12:27:08 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] ARRL Field Day 2014 June 28th-29th Chairman Wanted
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Yeah they might seek to have us all committed.? Whatever suits your fancy.? 

Actually I am always impressed when NY3A shows up about an hour before start time and quickly deploys enough radiator to reach KH6.? 

Last year I thought we did a decent job but I long for the day when we don't erect those low tech mil masts that take 4 people to raise and more time to adjust.? Ok at least our monster generator on a trailer is gone. 

73 Curt

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From wx3f at juno.com  Mon Jun  2 10:32:47 2014
From: wx3f at juno.com (Lawrence Solarczyk)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 14:32:47 GMT
Subject: [K3PZN-List] ARRL Field Day 2014 June 28th-29th Chairman Wanted
Message-ID: <20140602.103247.28443.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com>

Curt,

It only takes 2 people to set up and adjust one of those "low tech military masts," if only someone would have read the manual :-)

73,
Larry WX3F

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Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] ARRL Field Day 2014 June 28th-29th Chairman Wanted
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT)

Yeah they might seek to have us all committed.? Whatever suits your fancy.? 

Actually I am always impressed when NY3A shows up about an hour before start time and quickly deploys enough radiator to reach KH6.? 

Last year I thought we did a decent job but I long for the day when we don't erect those low tech mil masts that take 4 people to raise and more time to adjust.? Ok at least our monster generator on a trailer is gone. 

73 Curt

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun  2 11:41:08 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] ARRL Field Day 2014 June 28th-29th Chairman Wanted
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Larry

well since you are still well into your prime, please recruit your competent helper (no its clearly not me ...) and please install TWO of those masts wherever TBD FD chair requests.? (music to country song 'I'm not as good as I once was' playing in the background, use your imagination as this reflector server does not permit attachments .... gee I need to increase the font size here as I can barely see what I am typing ....)


I remember one year we had a team of Boy Scouts visiting -- this chore literally kept them busy while we were still preparing stations to get them on the air.? I think I remember a half dozen very capable young men and a couple capable scout leaders readily pulling off this assignment.? They were dreadfully competent with this and only struggled when Kerri put a microphone in front of each one of them.? 


Let's see what we need ..... maybe I need to reprogram my feeble OS what fun is or can be.? Actually Ray and Kerri are steady machines in installing the AB-570-something masts and ditto for the K1RH crew .... I keep waiting to hear his New England accent.? Maybe we should aim to get each call district represented in our FD event -- 1, 3, 8 and KH6 are likely represented).? The other category is operators that don't readily qualify for QCWA .... maybe I don't join since I still want to be unqualified.? 


73 Curt



On Monday, June 2, 2014 10:45 AM, Lawrence Solarczyk <wx3f at juno.com> wrote:
 


Curt,

It only takes 2 people to set up and adjust one of those "low tech military masts," if only someone would have read the manual :-)

73,
Larry WX3F

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To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] ARRL Field Day 2014 June 28th-29th Chairman Wanted
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT)

Yeah they might seek to have us all committed.? Whatever suits your fancy.? 

Actually I am always impressed when NY3A shows up about an hour before start time and quickly deploys enough radiator to reach KH6.? 

Last year I thought we did a decent job but I long for the day when we don't erect those low tech mil masts that take 4 people to raise and more time to adjust.? Ok at least our monster generator on a trailer is gone. 

73 Curt

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun  2 13:54:01 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 10:54:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Antenna Lessons Learned (we hope ....)
Message-ID: <1401731641.19663.YahooMailNeo@web162903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

A few other notes to the team from last year's experience:

(1) At the KB3VWK shelter we were SUCCESSFUL in sharing ONE mast between 20m SSB and 40/15m CW.? An inverted V for the latter was hung not many feet below the Yagi.? The rigs (FT-3000 and K2) coexisted without any interference.? Getting two stations on ONE mast highly successful.? 


(2) I remember 3 rigs last year in the K1RH shelter -- but I don't remember how many masts or how they shared them?? 


General rule #1 -- with decent-enough rigs we can share masts if they are on DIFFERENT bands.? 


(note if we instead host 15m SSB at KB3VWK we won't be doing 15m CW there ....)

(3) Unfortunately yours truly located the two big Yagi antennas much too close together last year.? As we wished to use them for CW and SSB on the same band at the same time, the result was not pretty.? We need greater separation between the Yagis (or even wire antennas for that matter) that would operate on the same band.? Whatever that spacing was I think we should aim to double it.? (Maybe someone has intel from another large operation on what works here?)

(4) One operator insisted in having his own mast .... I remember this resulting in a couple extra masts to erect.? (not fun -- read by traffic with Larry).? The 80m SSB was strung between those masts as I remember.? I can't remember how we deployed the wire for 40m SSB ?? 


FD without trees .... is this called uncivilized or what ??? Ok its part of the emergency operations exercise to deal with what you have.? 


CUL maybe I am done thinking about FD for this year's operation.? 


Curt

From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 17:36:26 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 17:36:26 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Antenna Lessons Learned (we hope ....)
In-Reply-To: <1401731641.19663.YahooMailNeo@web162903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Curt you guys have way more experience in knowing what will work and
what will not. I plan on bring all the mast the club has stored here and we
can assemble what is needed and what is not and leave the rest on the
trailer.  We will be bringing the RV and 6x6 with eagle one for eye
catching but probably not needed for operations.   As always thank you all
for any information you can help me with

ray



On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> A few other notes to the team from last year's experience:
>
> (1) At the KB3VWK shelter we were SUCCESSFUL in sharing ONE mast between
> 20m SSB and 40/15m CW.  An inverted V for the latter was hung not many feet
> below the Yagi.  The rigs (FT-3000 and K2) coexisted without any
> interference.  Getting two stations on ONE mast highly successful.
>
>
> (2) I remember 3 rigs last year in the K1RH shelter -- but I don't
> remember how many masts or how they shared them?
>
>
> General rule #1 -- with decent-enough rigs we can share masts if they are
> on DIFFERENT bands.
>
>
> (note if we instead host 15m SSB at KB3VWK we won't be doing 15m CW there
> ....)
>
> (3) Unfortunately yours truly located the two big Yagi antennas much too
> close together last year.  As we wished to use them for CW and SSB on the
> same band at the same time, the result was not pretty.  We need greater
> separation between the Yagis (or even wire antennas for that matter) that
> would operate on the same band.  Whatever that spacing was I think we
> should aim to double it.  (Maybe someone has intel from another large
> operation on what works here?)
>
> (4) One operator insisted in having his own mast .... I remember this
> resulting in a couple extra masts to erect.  (not fun -- read by traffic
> with Larry).  The 80m SSB was strung between those masts as I remember.  I
> can't remember how we deployed the wire for 40m SSB ?
>
>
> FD without trees .... is this called uncivilized or what ??  Ok its part
> of the emergency operations exercise to deal with what you have.
>
>
> CUL maybe I am done thinking about FD for this year's operation.
>
>
> Curt
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun  2 21:14:50 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:14:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Antenna Lessons Learned (we hope ....)
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Well I only know this because we learned the hard way!? 


FD is a bit unusual since we do multiple modes at the same time on the same bands - so even the multi-multi contests typically don't have this problem.? 


Likely the PVRC gang has this down pat ... I have heard things like them arranging all the beams in a straight line, but separating antennas on the same band is essential because each transmitter, no matter how clean it is, outputs broad band noise within the operating band.? 


I also brought this up as when our FD chairs assigns bands/modes per shelter -- we can't have two transmitters sharing the same antenna space on the same band.? Hence we can't co-locate 15m SSB and 15m CW for example.? 


A plan will emerge as the operation and its operators emerge.? Where is everyone else?? Ok back to some RTTY action .... 


73 Curt



On Monday, June 2, 2014 5:36 PM, Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com> wrote:
 


Thanks Curt you guys have way more experience in knowing what will work and
what will not. I plan on bring all the mast the club has stored here and we
can assemble what is needed and what is not and leave the rest on the
trailer.? We will be bringing the RV and 6x6 with eagle one for eye
catching but probably not needed for operations.?  As always thank you all
for any information you can help me with

ray




On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> A few other notes to the team from last year's experience:
>
> (1) At the KB3VWK shelter we were SUCCESSFUL in sharing ONE mast between
> 20m SSB and 40/15m CW.? An inverted V for the latter was hung not many feet
> below the Yagi.? The rigs (FT-3000 and K2) coexisted without any
> interference.? Getting two stations on ONE mast highly successful.
>
>
> (2) I remember 3 rigs last year in the K1RH shelter -- but I don't
> remember how many masts or how they shared them?
>
>
> General rule #1 -- with decent-enough rigs we can share masts if they are
> on DIFFERENT bands.
>
>
> (note if we instead host 15m SSB at KB3VWK we won't be doing 15m CW there
> ....)
>
> (3) Unfortunately yours truly located the two big Yagi antennas much too
> close together last year.? As we wished to use them for CW and SSB on the
> same band at the same time, the result was not pretty.? We need greater
> separation between the Yagis (or even wire antennas for that matter) that
> would operate on the same band.? Whatever that spacing was I think we
> should aim to double it.? (Maybe someone has intel from another large
> operation on what works here?)
>
> (4) One operator insisted in having his own mast .... I remember this
> resulting in a couple extra masts to erect.? (not fun -- read by traffic
> with Larry).? The 80m SSB was strung between those masts as I remember.? I
> can't remember how we deployed the wire for 40m SSB ?
>
>
> FD without trees .... is this called uncivilized or what ??? Ok its part
> of the emergency operations exercise to deal with what you have.
>
>
> CUL maybe I am done thinking about FD for this year's operation.
>
>
> Curt
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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From wo3l at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 08:24:00 2014
From: wo3l at comcast.net (wo3l)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 08:24:00 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Antenna Lessons Learned (we hope ....)
Message-ID: <8er9xy72isxnlwc7hs5obeal.1401798240714@email.android.com>

The co-band interference is one of the reasons I have advocated a max of 1 multi mode station per band. The difficulty is that makes the radio setup a little more complex as you have to accomodate modes you may not operate much or at all.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> 
Date:06/02/2014  21:14  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] FD Antenna Lessons Learned (we hope ....) 


Well I only know this because we learned the hard way!? 


FD is a bit unusual since we do multiple modes at the same time on the same bands - so even the multi-multi contests typically don't have this problem.? 


Likely the PVRC gang has this down pat ... I have heard things like them arranging all the beams in a straight line, but separating antennas on the same band is essential because each transmitter, no matter how clean it is, outputs broad band noise within the operating band.? 


I also brought this up as when our FD chairs assigns bands/modes per shelter -- we can't have two transmitters sharing the same antenna space on the same band.? Hence we can't co-locate 15m SSB and 15m CW for example.? 


A plan will emerge as the operation and its operators emerge.? Where is everyone else?? Ok back to some RTTY action .... 


73 Curt



On Monday, June 2, 2014 5:36 PM, Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com> wrote:



Thanks Curt you guys have way more experience in knowing what will work and
what will not. I plan on bring all the mast the club has stored here and we
can assemble what is needed and what is not and leave the rest on the
trailer.? We will be bringing the RV and 6x6 with eagle one for eye
catching but probably not needed for operations.?? As always thank you all
for any information you can help me with

ray




On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> A few other notes to the team from last year's experience:
>
> (1) At the KB3VWK shelter we were SUCCESSFUL in sharing ONE mast between
> 20m SSB and 40/15m CW.? An inverted V for the latter was hung not many feet
> below the Yagi.? The rigs (FT-3000 and K2) coexisted without any
> interference.? Getting two stations on ONE mast highly successful.
>
>
> (2) I remember 3 rigs last year in the K1RH shelter -- but I don't
> remember how many masts or how they shared them?
>
>
> General rule #1 -- with decent-enough rigs we can share masts if they are
> on DIFFERENT bands.
>
>
> (note if we instead host 15m SSB at KB3VWK we won't be doing 15m CW there
> ....)
>
> (3) Unfortunately yours truly located the two big Yagi antennas much too
> close together last year.? As we wished to use them for CW and SSB on the
> same band at the same time, the result was not pretty.? We need greater
> separation between the Yagis (or even wire antennas for that matter) that
> would operate on the same band.? Whatever that spacing was I think we
> should aim to double it.? (Maybe someone has intel from another large
> operation on what works here?)
>
> (4) One operator insisted in having his own mast .... I remember this
> resulting in a couple extra masts to erect.? (not fun -- read by traffic
> with Larry).? The 80m SSB was strung between those masts as I remember.? I
> can't remember how we deployed the wire for 40m SSB ?
>
>
> FD without trees .... is this called uncivilized or what ??? Ok its part
> of the emergency operations exercise to deal with what you have.
>
>
> CUL maybe I am done thinking about FD for this year's operation.
>
>
> Curt
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 11:07:05 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 08:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)
Message-ID: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,

First...I have a confession to make: ?there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!! ? ?

This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.

The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW. ?I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out. ?

Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!

PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna. ?Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".

If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation. ?Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.

So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band. ?I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.

73!

Jim ? WX3B

From mortonph at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 11:47:55 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:47:55 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)
In-Reply-To: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>

I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD 
operation.

I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.  How about Yaesu, Icom and 
Kenwood?

Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
>
> First...I have a confession to make:  there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
>
> This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.
>
> The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.  I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out.
>
> Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!
>
> PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.  Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
>
> If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.  Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
>
> So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band.  I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.
>
> 73!
>
> Jim   WX3B
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>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 14:01:00 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and 20m CW band (Field Day Commentary)
In-Reply-To: <538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
References: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1401818460.7332.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi Pete and Group,

I actually asked Frank W3LPL about this earlier today. ?

On the PVRC list of planned Transceivers this year:

1. ?Yaesu FT-1000mp/1000mp Mark V/1000mp Mark V field
2. ?Elecraft K3
3. ?Yaesu FTDX-5000

There was also a comment that mobile and other low end radios were excluded from consideration.

In the past, they have used Kenwood 850's....and I believe 930/940....and a brave person might have brought a Ten Tec Orion out there.

One year when Icom sponsored Field day there were some 7800's floating around.

I am not aware of any definitive "phase noise on transmit" reports for these or other radios.

73,

Jim ? WX3B


________________________________
 From: Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
To: James Nitzberg <wx3b at yahoo.com>; Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,	and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)
 

I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD 
operation.

I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.? How about Yaesu, Icom and 
Kenwood?

Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
>
> First...I have a confession to make:? there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
>
> This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.
>
> The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.? I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out.
>
> Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!
>
> PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.? Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
>
> If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.? Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
>
> So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band.? I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.
>
> 73!
>
> Jim?  WX3B
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 14:22:44 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC field Day:  Team N3SB/WX3B requests 20m CW,
	40m SSB
Message-ID: <1401819764.20446.YahooMailNeo@web161504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Dear CCARC Field Day Enthusiasts,

I am pleased to confirm that the N3SB/WX3B field day tent plans to host 20m CW and 40m SSB this year.
Both stations will be capable of transmitting on either CW or SSB, and we plan an NY3A style suite of two dipoles
to be used on a Fiberglass mast for our stations. ?We will seek to create maximum distance ?- sideways - to the?
other 20m and 40m stations being operated at the site.

For those of you interested in either band/mode, please contact me directly as I will maintain the somewhat informal schedule.

As is generally the case in field day, the hours we will need the MOST help operating are:

Saturday evening - after 9:00pm - and ANY time Sunday!!

73!


Jim ?WX3B

From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 14:28:04 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 14:28:04 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and 20m CW band (Field Day Commentary)
In-Reply-To: <1401818460.7332.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
	<1401818460.7332.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALhMAA5vRKvikYE6NkYtnoSY9Ewr+raU_GbDMFUjhJfje=Ttgw@mail.gmail.com>

forgive me everyone but what is PVRC


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Hi Pete and Group,
>
> I actually asked Frank W3LPL about this earlier today.
>
> On the PVRC list of planned Transceivers this year:
>
> 1.  Yaesu FT-1000mp/1000mp Mark V/1000mp Mark V field
> 2.  Elecraft K3
> 3.  Yaesu FTDX-5000
>
> There was also a comment that mobile and other low end radios were
> excluded from consideration.
>
> In the past, they have used Kenwood 850's....and I believe 930/940....and
> a brave person might have brought a Ten Tec Orion out there.
>
> One year when Icom sponsored Field day there were some 7800's floating
> around.
>
> I am not aware of any definitive "phase noise on transmit" reports for
> these or other radios.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim   WX3B
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
> To: James Nitzberg <wx3b at yahoo.com>; Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <
> k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,   and one CW band (Field Day
> Commentary)
>
>
> I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD
> operation.
>
> I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.  How about Yaesu, Icom and
> Kenwood?
>
> Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
> On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> > Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
> >
> > First...I have a confession to make:  there is a very good possibility
> that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and
> operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made
> for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all
> those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day
> enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
> >
> > This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will
> remain open for someone else to lead.
> >
> > The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are
> teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.  I would
> like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to
> round our effort out.
> >
> > Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to
> solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone
> enjoys!
> >
> > PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type
> of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the
> antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.  Much of the radio equipment
> and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the
> interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them
> "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
> >
> > If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful
> for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible
> from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna
> side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.  Finally, working out an
> operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a
> good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
> >
> > So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW
> band.  I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB
> and CW if the need arises.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Jim   WX3B
> > ______________________________________________________________
> >
> > 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From kf3ak at arrl.net  Tue Jun  3 15:08:34 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:08:34 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day EMCOMM Digital Station
Message-ID: <000601cf7f5f$3819cf70$a84d6e50$@arrl.net>

Dave KB3QMO and I plan to set up a emcomm digital capability as we did last
year, configured as two VHF/UHF stations (one for radiograms and one for
winlink) situated in Dave's trailer.   It gets points for sending
radiograms, at least.  

 

We can also offer the digital messaging training again (last year, we had
one "taker" and claimed points credit accordingly).

 

Anyone who wants to help is welcome.  We plan to start our set-up around
noon on Saturday.

 

73,

Tony KF3AK


From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 15:26:48 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 12:26:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)
In-Reply-To: <538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
References: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1401823608.97622.YahooMailNeo@web162903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>


JIm

cool conversation.? indeed a smaller FD is much easier to plan, that much I know.? 


like Pete, I am thinking that our rigs (FT-3000, K2, K3) have acceptable phase noise -- that the only problem we experienced is yours truly putting the beams too close last year. ?? those of us EE types (and many other hams) know the RF reduces 4X when the distance is doubled.? I did not do the math, but likely we had space in rules and at the sight to greatly improve our situation.? 


I am suspicious we can come up with a satisfactory arrangement for running 4-6 stations.? Thanks for volunteering to consult with TBD field day chair on our station arrangement.? 


I do believe we can run at least 2 rigs on different bands on the same mast, at least it works fine for a FT-3000 and K2.? Did you not do the same with 2 or 3 MP's last year?? 


Very possibly we can minimize our simultaneous band operations if we have a small enough number of rigs.? 


Great to find N3SB who has been missed recently due to other commitments and opportunities. ?? 


73 Curt
mere participant in FD 2014






On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:54 PM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
 


I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD 
operation.

I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.? How about Yaesu, Icom and 
Kenwood?

Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
>
> First...I have a confession to make:? there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
>
> This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.
>
> The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.? I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out.
>
> Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!
>
> PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.? Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
>
> If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.? Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
>
> So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band.? I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.
>
> 73!
>
> Jim?  WX3B
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 16:53:25 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Mr Bill Mellema via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)
In-Reply-To: <538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
References: <1401808025.72114.YahooMailNeo@web161505.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<538DEE2B.2070105@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1401828805.90567.YahooMailNeo@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Pete,

Hope all is well there in Finksburg. I'm in the process of installing my new vertical..will be finished in a few weeks. I have three project going on at the sametime.

A great site to check out for receiver specs is Sherwood Engineering. They manufacture receiver filters etc. The link is Receiver Test Data

 
 Receiver Test Data
Device Under Test Noise Floor (dBm) AGC Thrshld (uV) dB 100kHz Blocking (dB) Sensitivity (uV) LO Noise (dBc/Hz) Spacing kHz Front End Selectivity Filter Ultimate (dB) Dynamic Range Wide Spaced (dB)   
View on www.sherweng.com Preview by Yahoo  
?The K3 is near the top of the list for close in dynamic range (2 KHz). That's how the list is compelled. 

Best 73's

Bill N3WM

 


On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:54 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
  


I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD 
operation.

I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.? How about Yaesu, Icom and 
Kenwood?

Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
>
> First...I have a confession to make:? there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
>
> This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.
>
> The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.? I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out.
>
> Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!
>
> PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.? Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
>
> If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.? Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
>
> So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band.? I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.
>
> 73!
>
> Jim?  WX3B
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Tue Jun  3 17:20:53 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 21:20:53 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130C10A1@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

I will volunteer to head up the satellite station 
if you don't mind that many of my components 
that I want to use this time are fairly new and 
will require substantial set up time and a 
possibly "clunky" break-in period to get stuff 
up and running that I'd like to use (or abuse) 
FD for.  In fact, it sure would be nice if we 
could make a real satellite contact in the 
contest too!  8-)  

I would welcome a full time assistant or two.  
I'd be glad to teach the ropes in the process.  

I have all the gear for portable operation 
but require a FD area reasonably "clear" 
of large metal objects like buildings and 
portable housing.  So, ... 

WILL WE HOLD a group site visit one 
evening soon so that all us station captains 
can start staking our claim to the prime 
real estate???  

Thoughts?  

Thanks,

Pat Kilroy
N8PK


Mr. Pat Kilroy
Integration and Test (I&T) Lead Engineer
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Building 5, Mail Code 568
Greenbelt, Maryland  20771-5860
W: 301-286-1984
E: Patrick.L.Kilroy at nasa.gov



________________________________________
From: Curt Milton via K3PZN-List [k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:26 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,   and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)

JIm

cool conversation.  indeed a smaller FD is much easier to plan, that much I know.


like Pete, I am thinking that our rigs (FT-3000, K2, K3) have acceptable phase noise -- that the only problem we experienced is yours truly putting the beams too close last year.    those of us EE types (and many other hams) know the RF reduces 4X when the distance is doubled.  I did not do the math, but likely we had space in rules and at the sight to greatly improve our situation.


I am suspicious we can come up with a satisfactory arrangement for running 4-6 stations.  Thanks for volunteering to consult with TBD field day chair on our station arrangement.


I do believe we can run at least 2 rigs on different bands on the same mast, at least it works fine for a FT-3000 and K2.  Did you not do the same with 2 or 3 MP's last year?


Very possibly we can minimize our simultaneous band operations if we have a small enough number of rigs.


Great to find N3SB who has been missed recently due to other commitments and opportunities.


73 Curt
mere participant in FD 2014






On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:54 PM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:



I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD
operation.

I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.  How about Yaesu, Icom and
Kenwood?

Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
>
> First...I have a confession to make:  there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
>
> This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.
>
> The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.  I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out.
>
> Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!
>
> PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.  Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
>
> If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.  Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
>
> So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band.  I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.
>
> 73!
>
> Jim   WX3B
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 18:56:59 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:56:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
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Pat

Very very cool.? There is no shortage of sky at the Gamber site.? Please alert us to the number of clear square feet desired.? Could we also arrange for some high antennas to also make some non satellite qsos between passes?? 

Yes we can arrange for a large enough crew during the passes.

How about a short primer at June meeting?

Curt
Mere fd partipant

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From hamster749 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 19:47:43 2014
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:47:43 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
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Guys,

This is great.  It sounds like we already have a lot of Field Day "chairmen"
making and plans and talking about options.  Now all we need is a JOTA
station or maybe a low power solar station?  W3JJH usually sets this up.
And I am sure Mike (N3VOP) can supply us with a 6m station?

John, AK3Z

-----Original Message-----
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Curt Milton via K3PZN-List
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:57 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station

Pat

Very very cool.? There is no shortage of sky at the Gamber site.? Please
alert us to the number of clear square feet desired.? Could we also arrange
for some high antennas to also make some non satellite qsos between passes??


Yes we can arrange for a large enough crew during the passes.

How about a short primer at June meeting?

Curt
Mere fd partipant

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 21:16:48 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 18:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and one CW band (Field Day Commentary)
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Bill

great to hear from you!? hope your vertical gets radiating soon.? I worked an HS0 station for my more recent new country using one of my verticals on 12m.? its about 30 feet of radiator on this band -- too tall per the theory but don't tell that to the ions that made the QSO.? 


I took a look at the Sherwood numbers -- all the rigs IC-756pro2, FT-3000, K3, K2 and even that antique FT-1000mp are all within a few dB of each other.? (all pointing blame to me, not to anyone's fine rig).? 


However - that is the receive noise floor.? The transmit noise floor can be different -- somebody with too much time on their hands can look up the ARRL numbers for some of these rigs as they measure transmit noise.? In our case we are interested in noise that is 50-200 kHz from the carrier.? 50 kHz is closer than a SSB and CW will be most of the time when they are the same band.? 


if I have too much time on my hands in the near future I might calculate the separation needed between two Yagi antennas to make the transmit noise lower than the receivers own noise.? its not hard it just takes a little patience.? 


hopefully you can do FD with the gang down there.? I run into K4CGY every once in a while, and he even called me when I was running stations on CW.??

it would be a real hoot if WX3B does FD only with a wire antenna -- no it can't happen.? Rumor has it N3SB will be spending serious time at our FD.? he may need his ARRL badge so we will know who he is.? 


sometimes on the repeater I talk to a KH6 and an ex WP4 -- all kinds of aliens like W8 also around here.??

I really would like to make some QRP battery contacts at FD to get this out of my wish list.? Usually Phil or John get that privilege the joy of being 3rd string.? Actually both of these guys are still MIA.? 


CUL Curt



On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:57 PM, Mr Bill Mellema via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
 


Hi Pete,

Hope all is well there in Finksburg. I'm in the process of installing my new vertical..will be finished in a few weeks. I have three project going on at the sametime.

A great site to check out for receiver specs is Sherwood Engineering. They manufacture receiver filters etc. The link is Receiver Test Data


Receiver Test Data
Device Under Test Noise Floor (dBm) AGC Thrshld (uV) dB 100kHz Blocking (dB) Sensitivity (uV) LO Noise (dBc/Hz) Spacing kHz Front End Selectivity Filter Ultimate (dB) Dynamic Range Wide Spaced (dB)? 
View on www.sherweng.com Preview by Yahoo? 
?The K3 is near the top of the list for close in dynamic range (2 KHz). That's how the list is compelled. 

Best 73's

Bill N3WM




On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:54 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
? 


I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD 
operation.

I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.? How about Yaesu, Icom and 
Kenwood?

Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
>
> First...I have a confession to make:? there is a very good possibility that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
>
> This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will remain open for someone else to lead.
>
> The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.? I would like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to round our effort out.
>
> Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone enjoys!
>
> PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.? Much of the radio equipment and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
>
> If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.? Finally, working out an operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
>
> So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW band.? I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB and CW if the need arises.
>
> 73!
>
> Jim?? WX3B
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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From himself at wjjhoge.net  Tue Jun  3 21:55:28 2014
From: himself at wjjhoge.net (John Hoge)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 20:55:28 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
In-Reply-To: <005901cf7f86$377d0880$a6771980$@net>
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Yes. I'll be there with a solar powered rig. Either an Argonaut V or a  
K2. Rather than impose on the operating time for the big rigs, I  
suggest it be set up for 10m CW and Phone.

73 de W3JJH

Quoting John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>:

> Guys,
>
> This is great.  It sounds like we already have a lot of Field Day "chairmen"
> making and plans and talking about options.  Now all we need is a JOTA
> station or maybe a low power solar station?  W3JJH usually sets this up.
> And I am sure Mike (N3VOP) can supply us with a 6m station?
>
> John, AK3Z
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Curt Milton via K3PZN-List
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
>
> Pat
>
> Very very cool.? There is no shortage of sky at the Gamber site.? Please
> alert us to the number of clear square feet desired.? Could we also arrange
> for some high antennas to also make some non satellite qsos between passes??
>
>
> Yes we can arrange for a large enough crew during the passes.
>
> How about a short primer at June meeting?
>
> Curt
> Mere fd partipant
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 22:28:46 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:28:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,
	and 20m CW band (Field Day Commentary)
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Ray

your gladly forgiven!? we have been trying to hide this group from you up until now, as PVRC is a group of hams addicted to contesting.? even WB8YYY has some symptoms of this, but they are largely under control.? 


Potomac Valley Radio Club.? see pvrc.org

interesting thing about the club is the distance it spans -- we even have members in NC!? 


oh yes -- the W3AO FD is a joint venture between CARA and PVRC, although I suspect it is mostly PVRC folk.? 


73 Curt
PVRC misfit (don't tell them I build and sometimes operate QRP rigs pssst).




On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:05 PM, Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com> wrote:
 


forgive me everyone but what is PVRC


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Hi Pete and Group,
>
> I actually asked Frank W3LPL about this earlier today.
>
> On the PVRC list of planned Transceivers this year:
>
> 1.? Yaesu FT-1000mp/1000mp Mark V/1000mp Mark V field
> 2.? Elecraft K3
> 3.? Yaesu FTDX-5000
>
> There was also a comment that mobile and other low end radios were
> excluded from consideration.
>
> In the past, they have used Kenwood 850's....and I believe 930/940....and
> a brave person might have brought a Ten Tec Orion out there.
>
> One year when Icom sponsored Field day there were some 7800's floating
> around.
>
> I am not aware of any definitive "phase noise on transmit" reports for
> these or other radios.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim?  WX3B
>
>
> ________________________________
>? From: Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
> To: James Nitzberg <wx3b at yahoo.com>; Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <
> k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,?  and one CW band (Field Day
> Commentary)
>
>
> I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD
> operation.
>
> I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.? How about Yaesu, Icom and
> Kenwood?
>
> Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
> On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> > Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
> >
> > First...I have a confession to make:? there is a very good possibility
> that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and
> operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made
> for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all
> those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day
> enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
> >
> > This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will
> remain open for someone else to lead.
> >
> > The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are
> teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.? I would
> like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to
> round our effort out.
> >
> > Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to
> solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone
> enjoys!
> >
> > PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type
> of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the
> antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.? Much of the radio equipment
> and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the
> interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them
> "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
> >
> > If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful
> for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible
> from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna
> side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.? Finally, working out an
> operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a
> good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
> >
> > So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW
> band.? I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB
> and CW if the need arises.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Jim?  WX3B
> > ______________________________________________________________
> >
> > 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
> > ______________________________________________________________
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun  3 22:32:02 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
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Wow what a pile-up on the virtual K3PZN machine .... who next, maybe KE3FL will emerge?? I think almost everyone else has been QRV this week.? 




On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:01 PM, John Hoge <himself at wjjhoge.net> wrote:
 


Yes. I'll be there with a solar powered rig. Either an Argonaut V or a? 
K2. Rather than impose on the operating time for the big rigs, I? 
suggest it be set up for 10m CW and Phone.

73 de W3JJH

Quoting John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net>:

> Guys,
>
> This is great.? It sounds like we already have a lot of Field Day "chairmen"
> making and plans and talking about options.? Now all we need is a JOTA
> station or maybe a low power solar station?? W3JJH usually sets this up.
> And I am sure Mike (N3VOP) can supply us with a 6m station?
>
> John, AK3Z
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Curt Milton via K3PZN-List
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
>
> Pat
>
> Very very cool.? There is no shortage of sky at the Gamber site.? Please
> alert us to the number of clear square feet desired.? Could we also arrange
> for some high antennas to also make some non satellite qsos between passes??
>
>
> Yes we can arrange for a large enough crew during the passes.
>
> How about a short primer at June meeting?
>
> Curt
> Mere fd partipant
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun  4 10:21:57 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Smith Dave via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day EMCOMM Digital Station
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Tony,

I can bring a radio, power supply, kantronics box and anything else you think I can bring.

?
Dave
KB3QMO / AAR3DL



On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:27 PM, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:
 


Dave KB3QMO and I plan to set up a emcomm digital capability as we did last
year, configured as two VHF/UHF stations (one for radiograms and one for
winlink) situated in Dave's trailer.?  It gets points for sending
radiograms, at least.? 



We can also offer the digital messaging training again (last year, we had
one "taker" and claimed points credit accordingly).



Anyone who wants to help is welcome.? We plan to start our set-up around
noon on Saturday.



73,

Tony KF3AK

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From kf3ak at arrl.net  Wed Jun  4 10:49:40 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:49:40 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day EMCOMM Digital Station
In-Reply-To: <1401891717.34446.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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	<1401891717.34446.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Dave.  

Please add a Signalink (and cables) and a laptop/netbook, with RMS Express
and Fldigi installed, to your list.  Your list is growing...Hi

TNX, 
TK

-----Original Message-----
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Smith Dave via K3PZN-List
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:22
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Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Field Day EMCOMM Digital Station


Tony,

I can bring a radio, power supply, kantronics box and anything else you
think I can bring.

?
Dave
KB3QMO / AAR3DL



On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:27 PM, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:
 


Dave KB3QMO and I plan to set up a emcomm digital capability as we did last
year, configured as two VHF/UHF stations (one for radiograms and one for
winlink) situated in Dave's trailer.?  It gets points for sending
radiograms, at least.? 



We can also offer the digital messaging training again (last year, we had
one "taker" and claimed points credit accordingly).



Anyone who wants to help is welcome.? We plan to start our set-up around
noon on Saturday.



73,

Tony KF3AK

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From mortonph at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 14:39:06 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:39:06 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Transmitter keying spectrum and composite-noise test
	results
Message-ID: <538F67CA.3010205@comcast.net>

I read the QST reviews for the following transceivers and tabulated 
parameters that are important to operating multiple transceivers at a 
Field Day site on the same band.

Below is a list of common transceivers followed my three parameters:

The first column is the keying spectrum at +4 KHz from the carrier, 
measured with a spectrum analyzer having a 10 Hz resolution bandwidth.  
These numbers are important for determining the amount of key-click 
heard when operating nearby.

The second column is the composite noise at 20 KHz from the carrier.  
Units are dBc/Hz.

The third column is composite noise 100 KHz from the carrier. Units are 
dBc/Hz.  This parameter is important when operating two transmitters, 
one phone and one CW, on the same band.

Note that the Elecraft K3 outperforms all those in the list.  I sorted 
the list from best to worst on the third column, composite noise at 100 
KHz offset.

K3/100      -90   -147  -155
TS-590      -88   -135  -138
IC-7700     -83   -135  -137
FT-DX5000D  -81   -130  -130
IC-7200     -88   -121  -121
FT-450D     -70   -112  -121
FT-DX3000   -81   -119  -119
FT-1000MP    NA   -133   NA

WX3B and W3LPL like the FT-1000MP so I've included it in the list.  The 
keying spectrum and 100KHz composite noise data were not available in 
the QST review.   I can conclude that the first four in the list are 
probably acceptable for FD use when comparing with the FT-1000MP, based 
on composite noise 20 KHz offset data. This, of course, does not imply 
that the others are not acceptable.

I find the FT-DX3000 numbers disappointing.

-Pete, W3GVX


From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun  4 18:13:17 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 15:13:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Transmitter keying spectrum and composite-noise
	test	results
In-Reply-To: <538F67CA.3010205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1401919997.27069.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web162901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Cool data.? 

Lets not be too disappointed with the ft3000.? That might matter more if we were doing rtty 20 khz from cw.? CW to phone separation is more like 100 kHz on 20m and 70 kHz on 40m.? Any of these rigs would be fine on 20m ssb.? We can at least double separation from the wb3vwk and wx3b antennas and all will be well.? If I end up supplying a cw rig my k2 may be better than my ft950.? The k2 uses similar synthesizer to the k3 and we ran it with too close antennas last year.? Actually we were on 40m most of the time and we may have been too close to AK3Z ts590.? No issues that I know of.? 

You will find many of us with rig preferences in regard to knobs and buttons.? Meanwhile I try to operate every different rig I can.? 

We have access to enough fine rigs all should be well with proper antenna positioning.? 

73 Curt

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun  4 19:35:51 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:35:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Picture Thus Far
Message-ID: <1401924951.7606.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

So far what I see is this -- all looking nice!? The following is very preliminary except for the WX3B/N3SB + KF3AK+N8PK offer:? 


KF3AK/partner traffic station (ok I promise I will learn his call)


N8PK satellite station (I think we should also contact K3YTL and others on 2m/440 SSB if we can a little)


40 SSB WX3B wire antenna


20 SSB KB3VWK presumed, Ray just has to put up his nice rocket launcher if he has a beam to put on it?

80 SSB TBD but presumed next SSB station we would set up .... 


CW#1 N3SB maybe 20 and 80m ? co-located with 40m SSB


CW#2 WB8YYY or TBD,? could be colocated with 20m SSB if I invited or TBD,? could be 40/15m on wire antenna
(only if if we decide we have enough CW ops for 2 rigs)


RTTY anyone???

we did well last year with different-band colocation to reduce the number of shelters needed.? ditto for antenna structures and generators.? 


since some of us have old XP laptops these would work fine off the 'grid'? I suffered last year making SSB contacts without a PC -- clunker PCs are ok if they run N1MM.? I might be able to provide a couple lap tops, one with a Winkeyer for CW#2.? 


73 Curt

mere FD consultant (I am scarce in June until very close to FD)

From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 20:12:25 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:12:25 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Picture Thus Far
In-Reply-To: <1401924951.7606.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CALhMAA6VW9mK83=E0LvXjp5N7Z1cP-m8weV7u4qNxU8fcbm0DQ@mail.gmail.com>

currently the 577 has a mosley ta33 for 20/15/10 3 element.  but I was
thinking of bringing two 577 stringing a carolina windom up but if you
think the beam is better can bring that also


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> So far what I see is this -- all looking nice!  The following is very
> preliminary except for the WX3B/N3SB + KF3AK+N8PK offer:
>
>
> KF3AK/partner traffic station (ok I promise I will learn his call)
>
>
> N8PK satellite station (I think we should also contact K3YTL and others on
> 2m/440 SSB if we can a little)
>
>
> 40 SSB WX3B wire antenna
>
>
> 20 SSB KB3VWK presumed, Ray just has to put up his nice rocket launcher if
> he has a beam to put on it?
>
> 80 SSB TBD but presumed next SSB station we would set up ....
>
>
> CW#1 N3SB maybe 20 and 80m ? co-located with 40m SSB
>
>
> CW#2 WB8YYY or TBD,  could be colocated with 20m SSB if I invited or TBD,
> could be 40/15m on wire antenna
> (only if if we decide we have enough CW ops for 2 rigs)
>
>
> RTTY anyone?
>
> we did well last year with different-band colocation to reduce the number
> of shelters needed.  ditto for antenna structures and generators.
>
>
> since some of us have old XP laptops these would work fine off the 'grid'
> I suffered last year making SSB contacts without a PC -- clunker PCs are ok
> if they run N1MM.  I might be able to provide a couple lap tops, one with a
> Winkeyer for CW#2.
>
>
> 73 Curt
>
> mere FD consultant (I am scarce in June until very close to FD)
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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From kf3ak at arrl.net  Thu Jun  5 08:56:27 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:56:27 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
Message-ID: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>

A heads-up.

 

YOUR help is needed on Saturday August 2nd to support the Carroll County
Health Department with testing of its POD Go kits.   Reserve Saturday
morning, August 2nd, for public service and come out and help (and have some
radio fun, too).  The drill will start at 9 and conclude NLT 11.

 

As a minimum, ten operators are needed, but twenty are much better (it's
more fun and better training with two at a station).  Please share this
information with other hams (and prospective hams, too).

 

Thanks for your support,

Tony KF3AK

 


From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun  6 05:30:58 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Philip Karras via K3PZN-List)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 02:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3834.1401973012.15074.k3pzn-list@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1402047058.34790.YahooMailBasic@web122405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Tony,

Thanks for the heads up. I'm planning on being there I believe that Sat is "free."

73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County
OES, ORS, & VE
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner

--------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:56:27 -0400
From: "Tony KF3AK" <kf3ak at arrl.net>
To: "CCARC Reflector" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd

A heads-up.

YOUR help is needed on Saturday August 2nd to support the Carroll County Health Department with testing of its POD Go kits.   Reserve Saturday morning, August 2nd, for public service and come out and help (and have some radio fun, too).  The drill will start at 9 and conclude NLT 11.

As a minimum, ten operators are needed, but twenty are much better (it's more fun and better training with two at a station).  Please share this information with other hams (and prospective hams, too).

Thanks for your support,
Tony KF3AK



From kf3ak at arrl.net  Fri Jun  6 06:42:22 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 06:42:22 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <1402047058.34790.YahooMailBasic@web122405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.3834.1401973012.15074.k3pzn-list@mailman.qth.net>
	<1402047058.34790.YahooMailBasic@web122405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001cf8174$00d5e140$0281a3c0$@arrl.net>

Thanks, Phil.  Gotcha down.  

One change (already)... our event will start at 10 am (and run NLT noon).
The Health Dept. has a mass vaccination event happening at a couple of the
schools on the 2nd and our drill is being "dovetailed" with that.

Stay tuned for later developments.

Thanks again,
Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Philip Karras via K3PZN-List
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 05:31
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August
2nd

Tony,

Thanks for the heads up. I'm planning on being there I believe that Sat is
"free."

73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County
OES, ORS, & VE
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 6/5/14, k3pzn-list-request at mailman.qth.net
<k3pzn-list-request at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 08:56:27 -0400
From: "Tony KF3AK" <kf3ak at arrl.net>
To: "CCARC Reflector" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd

A heads-up.

YOUR help is needed on Saturday August 2nd to support the Carroll County
Health Department with testing of its POD Go kits.   Reserve Saturday
morning, August 2nd, for public service and come out and help (and have some
radio fun, too).  The drill will start at 9 and conclude NLT 11.

As a minimum, ten operators are needed, but twenty are much better (it's
more fun and better training with two at a station).  Please share this
information with other hams (and prospective hams, too).

Thanks for your support,
Tony KF3AK


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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun  6 16:19:34 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Philip Karras via K3PZN-List)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 13:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <000001cf8174$00d5e140$0281a3c0$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <1402085974.16881.YahooMailBasic@web122402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Right will do. Will I be at the school here in Mt Airy or are we meeting elsewhere? Any news when you get it would be appreciated.

My next article is due in August QST in the Hints & Kinks section

tnx & 73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County
OES, ORS, & VE
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 6/6/14, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
 To: "'Philip Karras'" <ke3fl at yahoo.com>, "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Friday, June 6, 2014, 6:42 AM
 
 Thanks, Phil.? Gotcha
 down.? 
 
 One change
 (already)... our event will start at 10 am (and run NLT
 noon).
 The Health Dept. has a mass
 vaccination event happening at a couple of the
 schools on the 2nd and our drill is being
 "dovetailed" with that.
 
 Stay tuned for later developments.
 
 Thanks again,
 Tony
 
 -----Original
 Message-----
 From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
 On Behalf Of
 Philip Karras via K3PZN-List
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 05:31
 To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed
 -- Health Dept drill August
 2nd
 
 Tony,
 
 Thanks for the heads up. I'm planning on
 being there I believe that Sat is
 "free."
 
 73 de KE3FL,
 Phil
 AEC Carroll County
 OES, ORS,
 & VE
 http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
 Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner
 
 --------------------------------------------
 On Thu, 6/5/14, k3pzn-list-request at mailman.qth.net
 <k3pzn-list-request at mailman.qth.net>
 wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 05 Jun
 2014 08:56:27 -0400
 From: "Tony
 KF3AK" <kf3ak at arrl.net>
 To: "CCARC Reflector" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
 Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed --
 Health Dept drill August 2nd
 
 A heads-up.
 
 YOUR help is needed on Saturday August 2nd to
 support the Carroll County
 Health Department
 with testing of its POD Go kits.???Reserve
 Saturday
 morning, August 2nd, for public
 service and come out and help (and have some
 radio fun, too).? The drill will start at 9
 and conclude NLT 11.
 
 As a
 minimum, ten operators are needed, but twenty are much
 better (it's
 more fun and better
 training with two at a station).? Please share this
 information with other hams (and prospective
 hams, too).
 
 Thanks for your
 support,
 Tony KF3AK
 
 
 ______________________________________________________________
 
 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
 ______________________________________________________________
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 http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/k3pzn-list
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 17:25:52 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 17:25:52 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN Satellite Station
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130C10A1@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130C10A1@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <CALhMAA493zd_pC9btN2tEXaY_BJiODpy2yVt15hmeUeJ9f2mRQ@mail.gmail.com>

HI Pat hey asked that Army friend of mine for the url for ballon launch he
said goggle on West Point Balloon Sat and its  a u-tube the But the link is
on there somewhere     Ray


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <
patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov> wrote:

> I will volunteer to head up the satellite station
> if you don't mind that many of my components
> that I want to use this time are fairly new and
> will require substantial set up time and a
> possibly "clunky" break-in period to get stuff
> up and running that I'd like to use (or abuse)
> FD for.  In fact, it sure would be nice if we
> could make a real satellite contact in the
> contest too!  8-)
>
> I would welcome a full time assistant or two.
> I'd be glad to teach the ropes in the process.
>
> I have all the gear for portable operation
> but require a FD area reasonably "clear"
> of large metal objects like buildings and
> portable housing.  So, ...
>
> WILL WE HOLD a group site visit one
> evening soon so that all us station captains
> can start staking our claim to the prime
> real estate???
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat Kilroy
> N8PK
>
>
> Mr. Pat Kilroy
> Integration and Test (I&T) Lead Engineer
> NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
> Building 5, Mail Code 568
> Greenbelt, Maryland  20771-5860
> W: 301-286-1984
> E: Patrick.L.Kilroy at nasa.gov
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Curt Milton via K3PZN-List [k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:26 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] WX3B wants 40m SSB,   and one CW band (Field Day
> Commentary)
>
> JIm
>
> cool conversation.  indeed a smaller FD is much easier to plan, that much
> I know.
>
>
> like Pete, I am thinking that our rigs (FT-3000, K2, K3) have acceptable
> phase noise -- that the only problem we experienced is yours truly putting
> the beams too close last year.    those of us EE types (and many other
> hams) know the RF reduces 4X when the distance is doubled.  I did not do
> the math, but likely we had space in rules and at the sight to greatly
> improve our situation.
>
>
> I am suspicious we can come up with a satisfactory arrangement for running
> 4-6 stations.  Thanks for volunteering to consult with TBD field day chair
> on our station arrangement.
>
>
> I do believe we can run at least 2 rigs on different bands on the same
> mast, at least it works fine for a FT-3000 and K2.  Did you not do the same
> with 2 or 3 MP's last year?
>
>
> Very possibly we can minimize our simultaneous band operations if we have
> a small enough number of rigs.
>
>
> Great to find N3SB who has been missed recently due to other commitments
> and opportunities.
>
>
> 73 Curt
> mere participant in FD 2014
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 1:54 PM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm a bit curious about which radios the PVRC deems acceptable for FD
> operation.
>
> I suspect the K3 is on the acceptable list.  How about Yaesu, Icom and
> Kenwood?
>
> Any data on transmitter phase-noise for various radios?
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
> On 6/3/2014 11:07 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List wrote:
> > Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,
> >
> > First...I have a confession to make:  there is a very good possibility
> that Rob K1RH and his family are going to participate as helpers and
> operators this year rather than the herculean effort they have always made
> for the last (7+) years of hauling their motor home around, putting up all
> those towers, and supplying electricity for a good portion of field day
> enthusiasts while hosting up to 3 operations...on their own!!
> >
> > This means that the traditional 20m SSB (and15m SSB) band slots will
> remain open for someone else to lead.
> >
> > The second rumor...and it is a credible one, is that N3SB and I are
> teaming up to do (2) band modes this year, one SSB and one CW.  I would
> like 40m SSB myself, and I am guessing N3SB will pick a CW band/mode to
> round our effort out.
> >
> > Regarding the interference between stations, the reason it is so hard to
> solve is due to our relaxed and non-centralized approach, which everyone
> enjoys!
> >
> > PVRC/CCARC field day eliminates most interference by mandating the type
> of Tranceiver that is acceptable, the type of antenna, the spacing of the
> antenna and the ORIENTATION of the antenna.  Much of the radio equipment
> and antennas CCARC enjoys are on the forbidden list BECAUSE of the
> interference potential....and it would ruin people's fun to tell them
> "leave your radio (or antenna) at home".
> >
> > If there are multiple band captains for different modes, it is helpful
> for those that like "running stations" to set up as far away as possible
> from other stations on the same band, and if possible, orient their antenna
> side ways to maximize side lobe attenuation.  Finally, working out an
> operational plan on the fly (you do the odd hours/I'll do even hours) is a
> good way to work out an unsolvable interference problem.
> >
> > So...sign me up for 40m SSB this year and one yet to be determined CW
> band.  I can promise that both of our stations will be bi-lingual in SSB
> and CW if the need arises.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Jim   WX3B
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> >
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From bigfoot1844 at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 17:39:08 2014
From: bigfoot1844 at comcast.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 17:39:08 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>
References: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <539234FC.2040305@comcast.net>

Tony,

My calendar for Aug 10 is clear as of now.  I would agree to assist 
someone who knows what they are doing, working "lifting and toting" 
under their direction.

Wayne N3UN

From bigfoot1844 at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 17:57:22 2014
From: bigfoot1844 at comcast.net (Wayne)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 17:57:22 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>
References: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <53923942.5090609@comcast.net>

Sorry make that August 2, 2014!

From kf3ak at arrl.net  Sat Jun  7 07:43:40 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 07:43:40 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <1402085974.16881.YahooMailBasic@web122402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <000001cf8174$00d5e140$0281a3c0$@arrl.net>
	<1402085974.16881.YahooMailBasic@web122402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000b01cf8245$ba861f20$2f925d60$@arrl.net>

Phil,

At the moment, I am only giving a "heads up".

As the sites are spread out over the county, we don't meet as a group, but
deploy directly to assigned sites.  Operator/site assignments will come
later (but preferences are noted now).

The sites to be staffed are:
Carroll Community College
Carroll Hospital Center (NCS)
Century High
New Windsor Elementary
North Carroll Middle
Northwest Middle
Parrs Ridge Elementary
Springfield Hospital
Winters Mill High
New Windsor EOC (to determine connectivity with the POD sites)

Thanks for signing up and please stay tuned.

73,
Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Philip Karras via K3PZN-List
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 16:20
To: 'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'; Tony KF3AK
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August
2nd

Right will do. Will I be at the school here in Mt Airy or are we meeting
elsewhere? Any news when you get it would be appreciated.

My next article is due in August QST in the Hints & Kinks section

tnx & 73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County
OES, ORS, & VE
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 6/6/14, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August
2nd
 To: "'Philip Karras'" <ke3fl at yahoo.com>, "'Carroll County Amateur Radio
Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
 Date: Friday, June 6, 2014, 6:42 AM
 
 Thanks, Phil.? Gotcha
 down.? 
 
 One change
 (already)... our event will start at 10 am (and run NLT  noon).
 The Health Dept. has a mass
 vaccination event happening at a couple of the  schools on the 2nd and our
drill is being  "dovetailed" with that.
 
 Stay tuned for later developments.
 
 Thanks again,
 Tony
 
 -----Original
 Message-----
 From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
 On Behalf Of
 Philip Karras via K3PZN-List
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 05:31
 To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed
 -- Health Dept drill August
 2nd
 
 Tony,
 
 Thanks for the heads up. I'm planning on  being there I believe that Sat is
"free."
 
 73 de KE3FL,
 Phil
 AEC Carroll County
 OES, ORS,
 & VE
 http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
 Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner
 
 --------------------------------------------
 On Thu, 6/5/14, k3pzn-list-request at mailman.qth.net
 <k3pzn-list-request at mailman.qth.net>
 wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 05 Jun
 2014 08:56:27 -0400
 From: "Tony
 KF3AK" <kf3ak at arrl.net>
 To: "CCARC Reflector" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
 Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed --  Health Dept drill August 2nd
 
 A heads-up.
 
 YOUR help is needed on Saturday August 2nd to  support the Carroll County
Health Department  with testing of its POD Go kits.???Reserve  Saturday
morning, August 2nd, for public  service and come out and help (and have
some  radio fun, too).? The drill will start at 9  and conclude NLT 11.
 
 As a
 minimum, ten operators are needed, but twenty are much  better (it's  more
fun and better  training with two at a station).? Please share this
information with other hams (and prospective  hams, too).
 
 Thanks for your
 support,
 Tony KF3AK
 
 
 ______________________________________________________________
 
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From k3taz at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  7 19:04:11 2014
From: k3taz at hotmail.com (Fred Merker)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 19:04:11 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>
References: <001401cf80bd$909baf10$b1d30d30$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <BAY173-W407B0E0EE8DF5C2F69667AF82F0@phx.gbl>

Tony and everyone:

                 I would like to volunteer for the August 2nd Health Department Test. However, that weekend is a busy one for me. Could I please request a site close to Finksburg?  Actually,  a site close to Sykesville would also be good. Our Grand Daughter is having a birthday party and my son will be visiting from North Carolina.

Thanks for your understanding,           Fred Merker




> From: kf3ak at arrl.net
> To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 08:56:27 -0400
> Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
> 
> A heads-up.
> 
>  
> 
> YOUR help is needed on Saturday August 2nd to support the Carroll County
> Health Department with testing of its POD Go kits.   Reserve Saturday
> morning, August 2nd, for public service and come out and help (and have some
> radio fun, too).  The drill will start at 9 and conclude NLT 11.
> 
>  
> 
> As a minimum, ten operators are needed, but twenty are much better (it's
> more fun and better training with two at a station).  Please share this
> information with other hams (and prospective hams, too).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your support,
> 
> Tony KF3AK
> 
>  
> 
> ______________________________________________________________
> 
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun  7 21:42:22 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (eric blade via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 18:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <000b01cf8245$ba861f20$2f925d60$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <1402191742.28049.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

kb3rpp and a helper.? We did Century last time, would love to try Springfield now that I have antenna placement figured out for Century.? That U shaped courtyard in the front of Century points the wrong way. Use the side door!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun  7 21:42:25 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (eric blade via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 18:42:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <000b01cf8245$ba861f20$2f925d60$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <1402191745.46428.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

kb3rpp and a helper.? We did Century last time, would love to try Springfield now that I have antenna placement figured out for Century.? That U shaped courtyard in the front of Century points the wrong way. Use the side door!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun  7 21:42:19 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (eric blade via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 18:42:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <000b01cf8245$ba861f20$2f925d60$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <1402191739.10432.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

kb3rpp and a helper.? We did Century last time, would love to try Springfield now that I have antenna placement figured out for Century.? That U shaped courtyard in the front of Century points the wrong way. Use the side door!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From kf3ak at arrl.net  Sat Jun  7 22:04:10 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 22:04:10 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August 2nd
In-Reply-To: <1402191739.10432.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <000b01cf8245$ba861f20$2f925d60$@arrl.net>
	<1402191739.10432.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125503.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000401cf82bd$f0c5d300$d2517900$@arrl.net>

Thanks, Eric.  Gotcha on the list and Springfield preference noted.

Also, thanks for the helpful antenna placement info ... it will be passed on
the Century crew.

73, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
eric blade via K3PZN-List
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 21:42
To: 'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Your help is needed -- Health Dept drill August
2nd

kb3rpp and a helper.? We did Century last time, would love to try
Springfield now that I have antenna placement figured out for Century.? That
U shaped courtyard in the front of Century points the wrong way. Use the
side door!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Mon Jun  9 16:53:18 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 20:53:18 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Meeting Tonight?
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC604@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

I just got back in town after what seems like 
a month on the road.  Are we flip-flopping 
between the non-profit center in Westminster 
and the emergency center in New Windsor?  

Which one tonight?  Will someone be 
monitoring the repeater to advise?  

Thanks,

Pat
N8PK

From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Mon Jun  9 17:10:58 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:10:58 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Meeting Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC604@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC604@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC627@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

I've just been told at the non-profit center on 
Clifton Blvd in Westminster, not far from the 
Denny's (Englar Rd and MD 140), and 
walking distance from the Panera Bread 
and Comcast location.  

Hope this description helps, even though I 
don't have the address numbers.  You may 
see also: 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5837366,-76.986814,17z

Hope to see y'all tonight at 7:30 PM EDT.  

Cheers,

Pat
N8PK

________________________________________
From: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:53 PM
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: CCARC Meeting Tonight?

I just got back in town after what seems like
a month on the road.  Are we flip-flopping
between the non-profit center in Westminster
and the emergency center in New Windsor?

Which one tonight?  Will someone be
monitoring the repeater to advise?

Thanks,

Pat
N8PK

From kf3ak at arrl.net  Mon Jun  9 17:38:42 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:38:42 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Meeting Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC627@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC604@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
	<93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC627@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <000001cf842b$2f3cfd20$8db6f760$@arrl.net>

Thanks, Pat.  

I think the address is 255 Clifton Blvd.  If it is not the actual address,
it's close enough for GPS's...the NP Center is the large building next door
to Comcast.

73, Tony KF3AK

-----Original Message-----
From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 17:11
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Meeting Tonight?

I've just been told at the non-profit center on 
Clifton Blvd in Westminster, not far from the 
Denny's (Englar Rd and MD 140), and 
walking distance from the Panera Bread 
and Comcast location.  

Hope this description helps, even though I 
don't have the address numbers.  You may 
see also: 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5837366,-76.986814,17z

Hope to see y'all tonight at 7:30 PM EDT.  

Cheers,

Pat
N8PK

________________________________________
From: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:53 PM
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: CCARC Meeting Tonight?

I just got back in town after what seems like
a month on the road.  Are we flip-flopping
between the non-profit center in Westminster
and the emergency center in New Windsor?

Which one tonight?  Will someone be
monitoring the repeater to advise?

Thanks,

Pat
N8PK
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 17:39:15 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:39:15 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC Meeting Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC604@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CC604@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <CALhMAA6hFShvr=Do9Y0FVxhFmsBWgicenAqv4-dPF+NNheuYSw@mail.gmail.com>

non-profit center tonight hope the white board works :)


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <
patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov> wrote:

> I just got back in town after what seems like
> a month on the road.  Are we flip-flopping
> between the non-profit center in Westminster
> and the emergency center in New Windsor?
>
> Which one tonight?  Will someone be
> monitoring the repeater to advise?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
> N8PK
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 12:40:07 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:40:07 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Additional transceiver tx spectrum data
Message-ID: <539734E7.2060608@comcast.net>

Following the meeting last night where co-location of radios at Field 
Day was discussed, I researched additional QST product reviews and added 
more transceivers to the list emailed previously.

The data below lists three parameters:  Keying sideband 4 KHz from the 
carrier, important for determining how "clicky" a radio transmitter is 
when receiveing at nearby frequencies; composite noise at 20 KHz offset 
from the carrier; and composite noise 100 KHz from the carrier. 
Composite noise is the hash heard in a receiver when a transmitter is 
operating key-down, and can be particularly strong when both are 
operating on the same band. Normally CW and SSB operation on the same 
band are separated by 100 KHz.

We use bandpass filters to reduce composite noise and harmonics when 
operating on different bands but these filters are ineffective when 
operating on the same band.

I sorted the list on the 20 KHz offset composite noise for comparison.  
Older QST reviews do not include the keying sideband and 100 KHz offset 
composite noise data.

The Yaesu FT-1000 seems to be the norm transceiver used by contesters 
and has worked well at collocated sites.  So, use the FT-1000 data for 
comparison.

The more negative a data number is, the better the performance. (Some of 
the newer rigs allow control of the keying rise and fall times which 
will affect the keying sideband data.)



                  keying   composite  composite
                 sideband  noise at   noise at
                 at 4 KHz   20 KHz    100 KHz
                  offset    offset     offset
Radio             (dBc)   (dBc/Hz)   (dBc/Hz)
---------------  -------  ---------  ---------
K3/100             -90       -147       -155
TS-950SDX MF/H      NA       -143        NA
TS-590S            -88       -135       -138
IC-7700            -83       -135       -137
TS-990S            -87       -133       -140
FT-1000MP           NA       -133        NA
OMNI VI Plus MF/HF  NA       -133        NA
FT-DX5000D         -81       -130       -130
FT-DX9000MP        -80       -128       -128
FT-857              NA       -128        NA
FT-897              NA       -128        NA
FT-950             -83       -125       -125
IC-7200            -88       -121       -121
FT--DX3000         -81       -119       -119
FT-450D            -70       -112       -121
Omni-VII HF/6      -84       -105       -127


From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun 10 18:14:04 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Additional transceiver tx spectrum data
In-Reply-To: <539734E7.2060608@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1402438444.39034.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Pete

I was nearly brain dead from working on test specs this afternoon so I did some of same research.? Each qst review has a plot of transmit noise.? 
The case of operating 2 trsnsmitters on the same band only occurs when 2 hams live real close to each other and at field day.? A friend of mine runs an ft2000 into a 1200 watt amp into a large beam at 100 feet.? Yes nearby hams do notice his noise level.? 

I am changing my opinion some now that I see the numbers.? Some og these rigs have transmitted noise 10 dB or more higher than other rigs.? This means received noise is then 10 dB higher.? 

Last year the noise came from a rig running ssb so keying is not a factor here.? I will do some calculations versus antenna spacing if you don't beat me to it.? Meanwhile if we ran my ft950 on ssb things might not be so good for cw op on same band.? Let me calculate how far it needs to be away to not cause qrm.? 

Note many fine rigs are excellent for normal operating.?? But when stations are too close for amount of noise power being transmitted we notice.? 

73 Curt

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 11 12:50:59 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:50:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + +
Message-ID: <1402505459.16150.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

That's our current configuration, a few humble thoughts on our operation - pending official communication from our club secretary.? Having only 4 HF rigs (thus far) should make our mutual use of the spectrum quite pleasing.? But we do wish to have enough operating seats around the tables - so stay tuned and let us know your availability as FD approaches.? 


Explaining:? 


1. 40m SSB WX3B
2. 20/80m CW N3SB? (co-located with station 1)
3. 20/15m SSB KB3WAV?
4. 40/15m CW WB8YYY (co-located with station 3, but not using 15m at the same time)

+ N3VOP VHF
+ N8PK satellite
+ KF3AK/KB3QMO traffic and training


KEY THEME -- Flexible Rapid Timely Deployment.? we have no other choice!? we are sharing the site with a flea market saturday morning that will linger into the early afternoon.? Our club trustee Andy has directed we not attempt any setup prior to 9 am saturday, and even this appears questionable we can do much.? 


At the moment I am capturing a need for 5 HF antennas (or maybe as low as 4)

20m tribander for station 3 on rocketlauncher
40/15m dipole on same for station 4


40m wire for station 1

all-band windom for station 2

80m TBD wire for SSB operation -- this can be deployed later in the day if used

Suggested Optional Concept --? origin is osmosis from much club discussion!? 


Part 1:? mitigate 20m co-site QRM

- start KB3WAV station on 15m if we have some propagation, transition later to 20m
- start N3SB station on 20m, transition to 80m opposite of Kerri (and maybe even use 10m if there is propagation)

Part 2: manage sharing of 15m
- start WB8YYY on 40m, only use 15m when Kerri is not using it (but always on the same dipole)

Part 3: co-existence on 40m
- we really must optimize orientation of our antennas!? while planning an inverted V at WB8YYY, need to assess what is our best approach -- and ideally run some tests before we start operating.? 


Part 4.? 80m is not so hard -- the atmosphere will be noisy enough -- just deploy any 80m SSB radiator far from Steve's windom.??

N1MM is preferred logging package that all 4 of us are using, it allows operators to not need training for each rig.? 


These are mere recommendations that may reflect everyone's thinking.??

Oh yes -- we are going to need some kind of welcome station to great on-lookers who may be still here when we deploy -- to answer 'what are these crazy people doing?'? 'does being around all this RF so long cause this kind of behavior?'? 73


Curt
unofficial communicator

From himself at wjjhoge.net  Wed Jun 11 13:30:01 2014
From: himself at wjjhoge.net (John Hoge)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:30:01 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + +
In-Reply-To: <1402505459.16150.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1402505459.16150.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20140611123001.zxjzj5m8cos88s04@webmail.opentransfer.com>

Curt,

I'll show up with a solar-powered QRP rig for the natural power  
points. I'm planning on using an Argonaut VI. I suggest that we run it  
on 10 m phone and CW. Would that make us 5A?

73 de W3JJH
John

Quoting Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>:

> That's our current configuration, a few humble thoughts on our   
> operation - pending official communication from our club secretary.?  
>  Having only 4 HF rigs (thus far) should make our mutual use of the   
> spectrum quite pleasing.? But we do wish to have enough operating   
> seats around the tables - so stay tuned and let us know your   
> availability as FD approaches.?
>
>
> Explaining:?
>
>
> 1. 40m SSB WX3B
> 2. 20/80m CW N3SB? (co-located with station 1)
> 3. 20/15m SSB KB3WAV?
> 4. 40/15m CW WB8YYY (co-located with station 3, but not using 15m at  
>  the same time)
>
> + N3VOP VHF
> + N8PK satellite
> + KF3AK/KB3QMO traffic and training
>
>
> KEY THEME -- Flexible Rapid Timely Deployment.? we have no other   
> choice!? we are sharing the site with a flea market saturday morning  
>  that will linger into the early afternoon.? Our club trustee Andy   
> has directed we not attempt any setup prior to 9 am saturday, and   
> even this appears questionable we can do much.?
>
>
> At the moment I am capturing a need for 5 HF antennas (or maybe as low as 4)
>
> 20m tribander for station 3 on rocketlauncher
> 40/15m dipole on same for station 4
>
>
> 40m wire for station 1
>
> all-band windom for station 2
>
> 80m TBD wire for SSB operation -- this can be deployed later in the   
> day if used
>
> Suggested Optional Concept --? origin is osmosis from much club discussion!?
>
>
> Part 1:? mitigate 20m co-site QRM
>
> - start KB3WAV station on 15m if we have some propagation,   
> transition later to 20m
> - start N3SB station on 20m, transition to 80m opposite of Kerri   
> (and maybe even use 10m if there is propagation)
>
> Part 2: manage sharing of 15m
> - start WB8YYY on 40m, only use 15m when Kerri is not using it (but   
> always on the same dipole)
>
> Part 3: co-existence on 40m
> - we really must optimize orientation of our antennas!? while   
> planning an inverted V at WB8YYY, need to assess what is our best   
> approach -- and ideally run some tests before we start operating.?
>
>
> Part 4.? 80m is not so hard -- the atmosphere will be noisy enough   
> -- just deploy any 80m SSB radiator far from Steve's windom.??
>
> N1MM is preferred logging package that all 4 of us are using, it   
> allows operators to not need training for each rig.?
>
>
> These are mere recommendations that may reflect everyone's thinking.??
>
> Oh yes -- we are going to need some kind of welcome station to great  
>  on-lookers who may be still here when we deploy -- to answer 'what   
> are these crazy people doing?'? 'does being around all this RF so   
> long cause this kind of behavior?'? 73
>
>
> Curt
> unofficial communicator
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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73 de W3JJH
John

From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Wed Jun 11 14:21:03 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:21:03 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Site Visit
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CE466@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hi Mike N3VOP and all,

Anybody want to meet me at the Gamber
FD site next week, Tuesday, June 17 at
7:00 PM or shortly after, to consider
more options for the layout of our
station locations?

On the club net last night the guys
remarked about a "new structure" near
the 26 x 12 foot amphitheater that I
ought to consider using for the satellite
station shelter.  I'd like to look at it
again with new eyes.

Can we find out before then if the
little building is even available for us
to use?  Or off limits totally?

Exactly which existing structures did
we use for shelter in previous Field
Days?

Thanks,

Pat N8PK





From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Tue Jun 17 14:04:45 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:04:45 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Site Visit > TONIGHT
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CEF13@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hello Mike and all,



I am running out to our club Field Day

site tonight to look it over with new eyes.



In particular I would like to settle on an

optimum location for the satellite station,

hoping we can get existing shelter near

the little amphitheater, if possible.



Who gives us access to those locked

grey shelters, and when might we

know which ones we can use?



I'll take some more photos.  See you

tonight at 7:00 PM or shortly after,

behind the Gamber volunteer fire

house.



Cheers,



Pat

N8PK



________________________________

From: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:21 PM
To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
Subject: FD Site Visit

Hi Mike N3VOP and all,

Anybody want to meet me at the Gamber
FD site next week, Tuesday, June 17 at
7:00 PM or shortly after, to consider
more options for the layout of our
station locations?

On the club net last night the guys
remarked about a "new structure" near
the 26 x 12 foot amphitheater that I
ought to consider using for the satellite
station shelter.  I'd like to look at it
again with new eyes.

Can we find out before then if the
little building is even available for us
to use?  Or off limits totally?

Exactly which existing structures did
we use for shelter in previous Field
Days?

Thanks,

Pat N8PK

-----------------------------------------

From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 17:44:10 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:44:10 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Site Visit > TONIGHT
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CEF13@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130CEF13@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <CALhMAA5MzaRv7VHs1wODrL6TLp2Gmfk589A=ze+OyPH79q8x1w@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry Pat
civil Air patrol meeting tonight so kerri and I will not be able to come
over but please post your thoughts after your visit.

ray



On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <
patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hello Mike and all,
>
>
>
> I am running out to our club Field Day
>
> site tonight to look it over with new eyes.
>
>
>
> In particular I would like to settle on an
>
> optimum location for the satellite station,
>
> hoping we can get existing shelter near
>
> the little amphitheater, if possible.
>
>
>
> Who gives us access to those locked
>
> grey shelters, and when might we
>
> know which ones we can use?
>
>
>
> I'll take some more photos.  See you
>
> tonight at 7:00 PM or shortly after,
>
> behind the Gamber volunteer fire
>
> house.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Pat
>
> N8PK
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:21 PM
> To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: FD Site Visit
>
> Hi Mike N3VOP and all,
>
> Anybody want to meet me at the Gamber
> FD site next week, Tuesday, June 17 at
> 7:00 PM or shortly after, to consider
> more options for the layout of our
> station locations?
>
> On the club net last night the guys
> remarked about a "new structure" near
> the 26 x 12 foot amphitheater that I
> ought to consider using for the satellite
> station shelter.  I'd like to look at it
> again with new eyes.
>
> Can we find out before then if the
> little building is even available for us
> to use?  Or off limits totally?
>
> Exactly which existing structures did
> we use for shelter in previous Field
> Days?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat N8PK
>
> -----------------------------------------
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 19:09:32 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 19:09:32 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
Message-ID: <CALhMAA4ftuq_OdF-Pit2whx2UdYVxaQZx+RiTEVBosQDg9rkeQ@mail.gmail.com>

The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have nothing
for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that was
hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
old yasue 840 good to still up and running.

ray kb3vwk sniff sniff

From wo3l at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 20:04:06 2014
From: wo3l at comcast.net (wo3l)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 20:04:06 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
Message-ID: <fou78hl70uni5p8t3n197ybo.1403222646347@email.android.com>

Club 850 is not spoken for....?


Sent from my Galaxy S?III

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:06/19/2014  19:09  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net </div><div>Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night </div><div>
</div>The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have nothing
for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that was
hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
old yasue 840 good to still up and running.

ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 22:06:39 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 22:06:39 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Message-ID: <CALhMAA7bWa=orSRiG07Di175fhz2trpsEKxEriYXwh+n2BR5FQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am not sure what Curt had planned for the RV but lets keep the club 850
as a back up ..... I do still have a ft-840 older rig.  Funny it was in the
same cabinet and took no ill effects of the storm.  -thanks  andy


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, wo3l <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:

> Club 850 is not spoken for....
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S?III
>
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ray Wright <
> kb3vwk at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:06/19/2014  19:09  (GMT-05:00)
> </div><div>To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net </div><div>Subject:
> [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night </div><div>
> </div>The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
> nothing
> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that was
> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>
> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun 20 09:32:08 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 06:32:08 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Ray

sorry to hear of your loss and it has some of us who own rigs spooked.? I think you are saying that only the electrical power was hooked to it - no antennas.? 


plan?? Curt who?? 


i am mostly away from the internet these days but here just now.? 


given you are bringing shelter and the heavy metal I am suspicious some rigs will emerge from somewhere.? I could supply a rig for one of your phone stations, but maybe something even newer will emerge.? and that TS-850 mentioned is a nice option.? 


73 Curt WB8YYY/8



On Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:15 PM, Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com> wrote:
 


I am not sure what Curt had planned for the RV but lets keep the club 850
as a back up ..... I do still have a ft-840 older rig.? Funny it was in the
same cabinet and took no ill effects of the storm.? -thanks? andy


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, wo3l <wo3l at comcast.net> wrote:

> Club 850 is not spoken for....
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S?III
>
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ray Wright <
> kb3vwk at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:06/19/2014? 19:09? (GMT-05:00)
> </div><div>To: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net </div><div>Subject:
> [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night </div><div>
> </div>The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
> nothing
> for FD gang.? they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that was
> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.? Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>
> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
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>
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 10:02:24 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:02:24 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Message-ID: <53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>

Ray-

I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC 
supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the 
battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).

I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 
rig.  I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues 
at last year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so 
you'd have to find another computer to run N1MM.

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
> The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have nothing
> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that was
> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>
> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
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>
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 20:53:28 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:53:28 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
In-Reply-To: <53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
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	<53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
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Hi Pete

so both radios were hooked up to two separate alinco power supplies which
were also hooked up to two other radios.   Just now we think we have found
out where the surge came from the doublet up at 100 ft shows signs of a hit
of some sort wires are melted.  still have good swr's on the antenna    But
yeah Pete didnt we have the k3 in the RV last year?

ray




On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ray-
>
> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>
> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>  I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at last
> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd have
> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
>
> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>
>> The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>> nothing
>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>> was
>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>
>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Sat Jun 21 00:48:40 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:48:40 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
In-Reply-To: <CALhMAA79T=VO1K2R4AWP0FSFQHr5Kf0nmA1xApS9pKJCxVDv1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALhMAA4ftuq_OdF-Pit2whx2UdYVxaQZx+RiTEVBosQDg9rkeQ@mail.gmail.com>	<53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
	<CALhMAA79T=VO1K2R4AWP0FSFQHr5Kf0nmA1xApS9pKJCxVDv1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53A50EA8.1020602@comcast.net>

So, what was the doublet connected to?  Ground, or a radio, or nothing?

Last year you and Keri used my FT-DX3000 on 20 meter SSB.  The phase 
noise of the radio when transmitting jammed the 20 meter CW station.  
The antennas of the two stations were too close to each other.  So, this 
year it is important to keep the two antennas well separated and 
oriented 90 deg to each other to minimize the problem.  The K3 has less 
transmitter phase noise than the FT-DX3000.

-Pete, W3GVX

On 6/20/2014 8:53 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
> Hi Pete
>
> so both radios were hooked up to two separate alinco power supplies which
> were also hooked up to two other radios.   Just now we think we have found
> out where the surge came from the doublet up at 100 ft shows signs of a hit
> of some sort wires are melted.  still have good swr's on the antenna    But
> yeah Pete didnt we have the k3 in the RV last year?
>
> ray
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ray-
>>
>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>
>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>>   I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at last
>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd have
>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>
>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>
>>
>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>
>>> The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>> nothing
>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>>> was
>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>
>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From j.f.tracey at verizon.net  Sat Jun 21 06:42:14 2014
From: j.f.tracey at verizon.net (Joe Tracey)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 05:42:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
Message-ID: <12820889.174224.1403347334583.JavaMail.root@vznit170134>


From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 08:56:11 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:56:11 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
In-Reply-To: <53A50EA8.1020602@comcast.net>
References: <CALhMAA4ftuq_OdF-Pit2whx2UdYVxaQZx+RiTEVBosQDg9rkeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
	<CALhMAA79T=VO1K2R4AWP0FSFQHr5Kf0nmA1xApS9pKJCxVDv1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<53A50EA8.1020602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CALhMAA6TpVZnu3jL3=zi5RjeWKBACe2a_KdZx+wJvMSRFzFAVA@mail.gmail.com>

from doublet to mfj tuner (fried) from tuner to alpha delta coax switch
surge protector which was set to common.  to a rf protector to the radio.


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:

> So, what was the doublet connected to?  Ground, or a radio, or nothing?
>
> Last year you and Keri used my FT-DX3000 on 20 meter SSB.  The phase noise
> of the radio when transmitting jammed the 20 meter CW station.  The
> antennas of the two stations were too close to each other.  So, this year
> it is important to keep the two antennas well separated and oriented 90 deg
> to each other to minimize the problem.  The K3 has less transmitter phase
> noise than the FT-DX3000.
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
>
> On 6/20/2014 8:53 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>
>> Hi Pete
>>
>> so both radios were hooked up to two separate alinco power supplies which
>> were also hooked up to two other radios.   Just now we think we have found
>> out where the surge came from the doublet up at 100 ft shows signs of a
>> hit
>> of some sort wires are melted.  still have good swr's on the antenna
>>  But
>> yeah Pete didnt we have the k3 in the RV last year?
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Ray-
>>>
>>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>>
>>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>>>   I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at
>>> last
>>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd
>>> have
>>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>>
>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>  The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>>> nothing
>>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>>>> was
>>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>>
>>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> K3PZN-List mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/k3pzn-list
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun 21 15:00:34 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Philip Karras via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:00:34 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6138.1403273004.15074.k3pzn-list@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <1403377234.56433.YahooMailBasic@web122404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I won't be able to come & play this year. The family is taking me away.

73 de KE3FL,
Phil
AEC Carroll County
OES, ORS, & VE
http://cs.yrex.com/ke3fl
Karras' Corner: http://blog.solidsignal.com/content.php/1005-karras-corner


From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 20:20:04 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:20:04 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] SUBJECT FIELD DAY
Message-ID: <CALhMAA5h9znNT_CQ6fqWGM7rT+Zrnwy9h3HR5EuOmJxwVS8Z9g@mail.gmail.com>

loaded  the two ab577's  mosely tm33a  and will load rest of the mast
friday night so they dont get wet.

ray

From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 20:16:54 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 20:16:54 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
In-Reply-To: <53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
References: <CALhMAA4ftuq_OdF-Pit2whx2UdYVxaQZx+RiTEVBosQDg9rkeQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CALhMAA78eiDMMJeQYKh5heBQeZW=V5W9DaiHBoNVgVHybkkTOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pete

When are you heading to TX?  If ok yeah I would like to pick up the k3 Rig
for Kerri.  Please let me know if you can still do that.

ray



On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ray-
>
> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>
> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>  I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at last
> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd have
> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
>
> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>
>> The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>> nothing
>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>> was
>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>
>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/k3pzn-list
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 09:10:44 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:10:44 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
In-Reply-To: <CALhMAA78eiDMMJeQYKh5heBQeZW=V5W9DaiHBoNVgVHybkkTOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALhMAA4ftuq_OdF-Pit2whx2UdYVxaQZx+RiTEVBosQDg9rkeQ@mail.gmail.com>	<53A43EF0.7070206@comcast.net>
	<CALhMAA78eiDMMJeQYKh5heBQeZW=V5W9DaiHBoNVgVHybkkTOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53A82754.4040408@comcast.net>

Ray-

I'm leaving early tomorrow morning (Tuesday).  If not convenient for you 
to pick the K3 up today, I can drop it off with n3sb or wo3l to bring to 
FD.  I'll also provide a Samlec power supply and Heil headset.

You will need a computer with a serial port (RS232) or a USB-to-serial 
converter to run N1MM with the K3.  The laptop I provided last year 
stopped working.

I'll set up the K3/P3 today for SSB operation with my Heil headset. I 
normally use the K3 for CW and digital modes.

N3SB has a K3 and WB8YYY has a K2 so I'm sure they are willing to assist 
if needed.

Let me know soon your plans.

[Some consider the club's TS-850 a better SSB rig than the K3, at least 
in audio quality.]

-Pete, W3GVX


On 6/22/2014 8:16 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
> Hello Pete
>
> When are you heading to TX?  If ok yeah I would like to pick up the k3 Rig
> for Kerri.  Please let me know if you can still do that.
>
> ray
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ray-
>>
>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>
>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>>   I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at last
>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd have
>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>
>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>
>>
>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>
>>> The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>> nothing
>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>>> was
>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>
>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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>>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 23 09:18:45 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:18:45 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] No CCARC field day participation for WX3B this year
Message-ID: <1403529525.58400.YahooMailNeo@web161504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,

An unexpected opportunity intersected with my family life this weekend and I have changed my plans and will not be participating in CCARC field day this year.
My apologies to my field day partners at K3PZN/Gamber for the short notice of this cancellation.

This year, there will be sporadic operations - mostly on 20 or 40 meters from the WX3B field day site in Timonium, MD! ?

73,?

Jim Nitzberg ? WX3B (and will be WX3B in field day this year)

From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 23 09:52:21 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:52:21 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] No CCARC field day participation for WX3B this year
In-Reply-To: <1403529525.58400.YahooMailNeo@web161504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1403529525.58400.YahooMailNeo@web161504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1403531541.219.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Jim

QSL - enjoy your time of blessing with your human connections.??

we'll also forgive your signal if it isn't S9+30 dB.? 


take care

73 Curt



On Monday, June 23, 2014 9:18 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
 


Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,

An unexpected opportunity intersected with my family life this weekend and I have changed my plans and will not be participating in CCARC field day this year.
My apologies to my field day partners at K3PZN/Gamber for the short notice of this cancellation.

This year, there will be sporadic operations - mostly on 20 or 40 meters from the WX3B field day site in Timonium, MD! ?

73,?

Jim Nitzberg ? WX3B (and will be WX3B in field day this year)
______________________________________________________________

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From wo3l at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 10:02:01 2014
From: wo3l at comcast.net (wo3l)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:02:01 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] No CCARC field day participation for WX3B this year
Message-ID: <r8d4hoc5u14xjohkkyf5v8eo.1403532121765@email.android.com>

Looking at the wx for the weekend I see low 80's with storms all weekend. ?Consider the station plan with the number of participants and if it still makes sense. Everthing that is set up has to get taken down and that's often when labor is short.?

Andy


Sent from my Galaxy S?III

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> </div><div>Date:06/23/2014  09:52  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: James Nitzberg <wx3b at yahoo.com>, Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> </div><div>Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] No CCARC field day participation for WX3B this year </div><div>
</div>Jim

QSL - enjoy your time of blessing with your human connections.  

we'll also forgive your signal if it isn't S9+30 dB.  


take care

73 Curt



On Monday, June 23, 2014 9:18 AM, James Nitzberg via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:



Dear CCARC field day enthusiasts,

An unexpected opportunity intersected with my family life this weekend and I have changed my plans and will not be participating in CCARC field day this year.
My apologies to my field day partners at K3PZN/Gamber for the short notice of this cancellation.

This year, there will be sporadic operations - mostly on 20 or 40 meters from the WX3B field day site in Timonium, MD!  

73, 

Jim Nitzberg   WX3B (and will be WX3B in field day this year)
______________________________________________________________

73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 15:26:59 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:26:59 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Ray-

I have the K3/P3 packed in a box with the Samlec power supply, Heil 
headset, foot switch, cables, etc.  Everything is set up and checked out.

Let me know if you are coming tonight or if I should give to someone to 
bring to FD.

-Pete, W3GVX


On 6/23/2014 9:10 AM, Peter Morton wrote:
> Ray-
>
> I'm leaving early tomorrow morning (Tuesday).  If not convenient for 
> you to pick the K3 up today, I can drop it off with n3sb or wo3l to 
> bring to FD.  I'll also provide a Samlec power supply and Heil headset.
>
> You will need a computer with a serial port (RS232) or a USB-to-serial 
> converter to run N1MM with the K3.  The laptop I provided last year 
> stopped working.
>
> I'll set up the K3/P3 today for SSB operation with my Heil headset. I 
> normally use the K3 for CW and digital modes.
>
> N3SB has a K3 and WB8YYY has a K2 so I'm sure they are willing to 
> assist if needed.
>
> Let me know soon your plans.
>
> [Some consider the club's TS-850 a better SSB rig than the K3, at 
> least in audio quality.]
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
>
> On 6/22/2014 8:16 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>> Hello Pete
>>
>> When are you heading to TX?  If ok yeah I would like to pick up the 
>> k3 Rig
>> for Kerri.  Please let me know if you can still do that.
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ray-
>>>
>>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>>
>>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 
>>> rig.
>>>   I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues 
>>> at last
>>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so 
>>> you'd have
>>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>>
>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>> The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>>> nothing
>>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply 
>>>> that
>>>> was
>>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m 
>>>> rig and
>>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>>
>>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 23 15:44:19 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:44:19 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + + (latest configuration)
Message-ID: <1403552659.44340.YahooMailNeo@web162906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>



*** We need to build a roster of available operators for our HF stations.? We will have the two SSB stations sheltered and I don't expect dreadful temps for the outdoor stations.? 


1. SSB#1??? 20/15m SSB host=KB3WAV, yagi from Ray and I think a rig from Pete? (K3)
2. SSB#2??? 40/80m SSB host=KB3VWK, wires from Ray, rig=TBD

3. 20/80m CW N3SB
4. 10m SSB/CW, 40/15m CW host=W3JJH???? (will integrate solar)


+ N3VOP VHF
+ N8PK satellite
+ KF3AK/KB3QMO traffic and training


KEY THEME -- Flexible Rapid Timely Deployment.? we have no other choice!? 
we are sharing the site with a flea market saturday morning that will 
linger into the early afternoon.? Our club trustee Andy has directed we 
not attempt any setup prior to 9 am saturday, and even this appears 
questionable we can do much.? 


Suggested Optional Concept --? origin is osmosis from much club discussion!? very easy now with 4A


mitigate 20m co-site QRM

- start KB3WAV station on 15m if we have some propagation, transition later to 20m
- start N3SB station on 20m, transition to 80m opposite of Kerri (and maybe even use 10m if there is propagation)


N1MM is preferred logging package that all 4 of us are using, it allows operators to not need training for each rig.? 


These are mere recommendations that may reflect everyone's thinking.??

Oh yes -- we are going to need some kind of welcome station to great 
on-lookers who may be still here when we deploy -- to answer 'what are 
these crazy people doing?'? 'does being around all this RF so long cause this kind of behavior?'? 73


Curt
unofficial communicator

From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 18:21:33 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:21:33 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Pete tell me a good time to come over tonight I look up your address on qrz
and head over or you can leave it with Andy or Steve if you want.
thanks so very much Ray


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ray-
>
> I'm leaving early tomorrow morning (Tuesday).  If not convenient for you
> to pick the K3 up today, I can drop it off with n3sb or wo3l to bring to
> FD.  I'll also provide a Samlec power supply and Heil headset.
>
> You will need a computer with a serial port (RS232) or a USB-to-serial
> converter to run N1MM with the K3.  The laptop I provided last year stopped
> working.
>
> I'll set up the K3/P3 today for SSB operation with my Heil headset. I
> normally use the K3 for CW and digital modes.
>
> N3SB has a K3 and WB8YYY has a K2 so I'm sure they are willing to assist
> if needed.
>
> Let me know soon your plans.
>
> [Some consider the club's TS-850 a better SSB rig than the K3, at least in
> audio quality.]
>
> -Pete, W3GVX
>
>
>
> On 6/22/2014 8:16 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>
>> Hello Pete
>>
>> When are you heading to TX?  If ok yeah I would like to pick up the k3 Rig
>> for Kerri.  Please let me know if you can still do that.
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Ray-
>>>
>>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>>
>>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>>>   I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at
>>> last
>>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd
>>> have
>>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>>
>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>  The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>>> nothing
>>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>>>> was
>>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>>
>>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 18:30:11 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:30:11 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Ray-

You are welcome to pick up the K3 tonight.  Any time is okay before 
10:00 p.m.  Rising early in the morn to catch our flight.

My cell is 410-236-2825.  Address is 2700 Valiant Knights Drive, 
Finksburg, 21048.  Look for my tower.

-Pete


On 6/23/2014 6:21 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
> Pete tell me a good time to come over tonight I look up your address on qrz
> and head over or you can leave it with Andy or Steve if you want.
> thanks so very much Ray
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ray-
>>
>> I'm leaving early tomorrow morning (Tuesday).  If not convenient for you
>> to pick the K3 up today, I can drop it off with n3sb or wo3l to bring to
>> FD.  I'll also provide a Samlec power supply and Heil headset.
>>
>> You will need a computer with a serial port (RS232) or a USB-to-serial
>> converter to run N1MM with the K3.  The laptop I provided last year stopped
>> working.
>>
>> I'll set up the K3/P3 today for SSB operation with my Heil headset. I
>> normally use the K3 for CW and digital modes.
>>
>> N3SB has a K3 and WB8YYY has a K2 so I'm sure they are willing to assist
>> if needed.
>>
>> Let me know soon your plans.
>>
>> [Some consider the club's TS-850 a better SSB rig than the K3, at least in
>> audio quality.]
>>
>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/22/2014 8:16 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Pete
>>>
>>> When are you heading to TX?  If ok yeah I would like to pick up the k3 Rig
>>> for Kerri.  Please let me know if you can still do that.
>>>
>>> ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Ray-
>>>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>>>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>>>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>>>
>>>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3 rig.
>>>>    I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues at
>>>> last
>>>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd
>>>> have
>>>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>>>
>>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply that
>>>>> was
>>>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig and
>>>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>>>
>>>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> K3PZN-List mailing list
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 18:47:51 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:47:51 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + + (latest configuration)
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No problem on the ab577 kerri and I can have it up and down in under an
hour each way with help even shorter and thats being conservative.  With
equipment slated to be on top maybe even less.  I have a DXQC antenna for
80m but I would guess with a tuner you could get 40m to tune. I can also
bring a carolina windom will need tuner for that for sure.  I do have two
tuners, one ldg auto and one mfj manual.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

>
>
> *** We need to build a roster of available operators for our HF stations.
> We will have the two SSB stations sheltered and I don't expect dreadful
> temps for the outdoor stations.
>
>
> 1. SSB#1    20/15m SSB host=KB3WAV, yagi from Ray and I think a rig from
> Pete  (K3)
> 2. SSB#2    40/80m SSB host=KB3VWK, wires from Ray, rig=TBD
>
> 3. 20/80m CW N3SB
> 4. 10m SSB/CW, 40/15m CW host=W3JJH     (will integrate solar)
>
>
> + N3VOP VHF
> + N8PK satellite
> + KF3AK/KB3QMO traffic and training
>
>
> KEY THEME -- Flexible Rapid Timely Deployment.  we have no other choice!
> we are sharing the site with a flea market saturday morning that will
> linger into the early afternoon.  Our club trustee Andy has directed we
> not attempt any setup prior to 9 am saturday, and even this appears
> questionable we can do much.
>
>
> Suggested Optional Concept --  origin is osmosis from much club
> discussion!  very easy now with 4A
>
>
> mitigate 20m co-site QRM
>
> - start KB3WAV station on 15m if we have some propagation, transition
> later to 20m
> - start N3SB station on 20m, transition to 80m opposite of Kerri (and
> maybe even use 10m if there is propagation)
>
>
> N1MM is preferred logging package that all 4 of us are using, it allows
> operators to not need training for each rig.
>
>
> These are mere recommendations that may reflect everyone's thinking.
>
> Oh yes -- we are going to need some kind of welcome station to great
> on-lookers who may be still here when we deploy -- to answer 'what are
> these crazy people doing?'  'does being around all this RF so long cause
> this kind of behavior?'  73
>
>
> Curt
> unofficial communicator
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
> ______________________________________________________________
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 23 19:44:52 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:44:52 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + + (latest configuration)
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Yeah I know you well enough that you need a ab577 experience to enjoy FD.? I was merely thinking to put a 40m dipole in parallel with the 80m one.? One mast and 2 coaxes to get 2 rigs onto 5 bands, with your yagi.? 

Strategy may be to get you shack fully assembled before we can raise the ab577 as soon as flea market traffic allows.

Curt

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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 21:50:17 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:50:17 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Thanks Pete for use of the K3.  So Andy I may need to borrow the clubs HF
radio or do you all think my yasue ft 840 will be able to handle it?


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ray-
>
> You are welcome to pick up the K3 tonight.  Any time is okay before 10:00
> p.m.  Rising early in the morn to catch our flight.
>
> My cell is 410-236-2825.  Address is 2700 Valiant Knights Drive,
> Finksburg, 21048.  Look for my tower.
>
> -Pete
>
>
>
> On 6/23/2014 6:21 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>
>> Pete tell me a good time to come over tonight I look up your address on
>> qrz
>> and head over or you can leave it with Andy or Steve if you want.
>> thanks so very much Ray
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Ray-
>>>
>>> I'm leaving early tomorrow morning (Tuesday).  If not convenient for you
>>> to pick the K3 up today, I can drop it off with n3sb or wo3l to bring to
>>> FD.  I'll also provide a Samlec power supply and Heil headset.
>>>
>>> You will need a computer with a serial port (RS232) or a USB-to-serial
>>> converter to run N1MM with the K3.  The laptop I provided last year
>>> stopped
>>> working.
>>>
>>> I'll set up the K3/P3 today for SSB operation with my Heil headset. I
>>> normally use the K3 for CW and digital modes.
>>>
>>> N3SB has a K3 and WB8YYY has a K2 so I'm sure they are willing to assist
>>> if needed.
>>>
>>> Let me know soon your plans.
>>>
>>> [Some consider the club's TS-850 a better SSB rig than the K3, at least
>>> in
>>> audio quality.]
>>>
>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/22/2014 8:16 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello Pete
>>>>
>>>> When are you heading to TX?  If ok yeah I would like to pick up the k3
>>>> Rig
>>>> for Kerri.  Please let me know if you can still do that.
>>>>
>>>> ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Peter Morton <mortonph at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Ray-
>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious about your FT-897 failures.  Were you using an external DC
>>>>> supply or were you using the optional Yaesu supply that mounts in the
>>>>> battery compartment (at least partially in the battery compartment).
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be in Texas over FD weekend.  You are welcome to use my K3/P3
>>>>> rig.
>>>>>    I'd offer you the FT-DX3000 but it had co-band interference issues
>>>>> at
>>>>> last
>>>>> year's FD.  The laptop I provided last year is on the fritz, so you'd
>>>>> have
>>>>> to find another computer to run N1MM.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Pete, W3GVX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/19/2014 7:09 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   The storms last night took out both of my yasue 897s so I will have
>>>>>
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> for FD gang.  they were hooked up to anything but the power supply
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> hooked up to a surge protected circuit.  Heres the kicker the 2m rig
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> old yasue 840 good to still up and running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ray kb3vwk sniff sniff
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From mortonph at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 22:00:57 2014
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:00:57 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + + (latest configuration)
In-Reply-To: <CALhMAA7zW--UD2h5-Cm4mN-JEjTYS9RByEKeNDCbSZyPo+71nw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <53A8DBD9.3050005@comcast.net>

Curt-

I gave the 40-meter dipole you used last year to N3SB to bring to FD 
this year in case it is needed.  I also gave N3SB an 80-meter OCF dipole 
that I think he plans to use.

-Pete, W3GVX


On 6/23/2014 6:47 PM, Ray Wright wrote:
> No problem on the ab577 kerri and I can have it up and down in under an
> hour each way with help even shorter and thats being conservative.  With
> equipment slated to be on top maybe even less.  I have a DXQC antenna for
> 80m but I would guess with a tuner you could get 40m to tune. I can also
> bring a carolina windom will need tuner for that for sure.  I do have two
> tuners, one ldg auto and one mfj manual.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
> k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> *** We need to build a roster of available operators for our HF stations.
>> We will have the two SSB stations sheltered and I don't expect dreadful
>> temps for the outdoor stations.
>>
>>
>> 1. SSB#1    20/15m SSB host=KB3WAV, yagi from Ray and I think a rig from
>> Pete  (K3)
>> 2. SSB#2    40/80m SSB host=KB3VWK, wires from Ray, rig=TBD
>>
>> 3. 20/80m CW N3SB
>> 4. 10m SSB/CW, 40/15m CW host=W3JJH     (will integrate solar)
>>
>>
>> + N3VOP VHF
>> + N8PK satellite
>> + KF3AK/KB3QMO traffic and training
>>
>>
>> KEY THEME -- Flexible Rapid Timely Deployment.  we have no other choice!
>> we are sharing the site with a flea market saturday morning that will
>> linger into the early afternoon.  Our club trustee Andy has directed we
>> not attempt any setup prior to 9 am saturday, and even this appears
>> questionable we can do much.
>>
>>
>> Suggested Optional Concept --  origin is osmosis from much club
>> discussion!  very easy now with 4A
>>
>>
>> mitigate 20m co-site QRM
>>
>> - start KB3WAV station on 15m if we have some propagation, transition
>> later to 20m
>> - start N3SB station on 20m, transition to 80m opposite of Kerri (and
>> maybe even use 10m if there is propagation)
>>
>>
>> N1MM is preferred logging package that all 4 of us are using, it allows
>> operators to not need training for each rig.
>>
>>
>> These are mere recommendations that may reflect everyone's thinking.
>>
>> Oh yes -- we are going to need some kind of welcome station to great
>> on-lookers who may be still here when we deploy -- to answer 'what are
>> these crazy people doing?'  'does being around all this RF so long cause
>> this kind of behavior?'  73
>>
>>
>> Curt
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 23 22:04:33 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:04:33 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
In-Reply-To: <CALhMAA4u4ZcL2ejZ8-oHmF40xeDpEKmdD4R50tzgOpBsMqdhMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1403575473.52126.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web162905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Sounds like you are after a second rig for ssb.? I could bring my ft950 for this, or maybe someone will offer something newer.? I don't have a heil style headset but I sm thinking you do thst would fit the ft950.? 

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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 23 22:12:10 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:12:10 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD 4A + + + (latest configuration)
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Pete

Thanks a bunch for supplying a very nice rig and those antennas.? I am confident 4 stations csn come together.? Enjoy your travel to the big state.

Curt

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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 22:23:01 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:23:01 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Hey Curt I will take you up on the FT950 does it have a modular plug in for
the mic?  I bet the heil head set we have for the ft 897 would fit?


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Sounds like you are after a second rig for ssb.  I could bring my ft950
> for this, or maybe someone will offer something newer.  I don't have a heil
> style headset but I sm thinking you do thst would fit the ft950.
>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun 24 14:31:02 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:31:02 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] subject storms last night
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Ray

The FT-950 uses a standard (8? pin) microphone connector, so you have me thinking with your use of the term 'modular' that the FT-897 uses an ethernet style connector like an FM mobile rig?? Yikes - we would have a mismatch -- and I don't remember the club owning any Yaesu rigs? ? 


Curt



On Monday, June 23, 2014 10:31 PM, Ray Wright <kb3vwk at gmail.com> wrote:
 


Hey Curt I will take you up on the FT950 does it have a modular plug in for the mic?? I bet the heil head set we have for the ft 897 would fit?? 




On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

Sounds like you are after a second rig for ssb.? I could bring my ft950 for this, or maybe someone will offer something newer.? I don't have a heil style headset but I sm thinking you do thst would fit the ft950.?
>
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From kf3ak at arrl.net  Tue Jun 24 21:08:57 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:08:57 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
Message-ID: <000601cf9012$0b08f060$211ad120$@arrl.net>

Have any plans been made for an evening meal (picnic, order-in, brown bag or
what) on Saturday at Field Day?  

 

I invited the CC Office of Emergency Management personnel to our site and
promised them a picnic dinner.  If there are no plans, then I must retract
that offer (or treat them at the nearby Royal Farms.it will be worth it if
some or all come out).

 

73,

Tony KF3AK


From wo3l at comcast.net  Tue Jun 24 21:30:44 2014
From: wo3l at comcast.net (Andy Leeds)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:30:44 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
In-Reply-To: <000601cf9012$0b08f060$211ad120$@arrl.net>
References: <000601cf9012$0b08f060$211ad120$@arrl.net>
Message-ID: <53AA2644.9070802@comcast.net>

I'm likely going to be late at work all week, and perhaps have to put in 
some time over the weekend to make a deadline so I can't cook this year.

If nobody wants to cook we should poll those present and get some 
agreeable takeout.

Andy

On 6/24/2014 9:08 PM, Tony KF3AK wrote:
> Have any plans been made for an evening meal (picnic, order-in, brown bag or
> what) on Saturday at Field Day?
>
>
>
> I invited the CC Office of Emergency Management personnel to our site and
> promised them a picnic dinner.  If there are no plans, then I must retract
> that offer (or treat them at the nearby Royal Farms.it will be worth it if
> some or all come out).
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Tony KF3AK
>
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 22:21:19 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:21:19 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
In-Reply-To: <000601cf9012$0b08f060$211ad120$@arrl.net>
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what time were u thinking Tony?


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:

> Have any plans been made for an evening meal (picnic, order-in, brown bag
> or
> what) on Saturday at Field Day?
>
>
>
> I invited the CC Office of Emergency Management personnel to our site and
> promised them a picnic dinner.  If there are no plans, then I must retract
> that offer (or treat them at the nearby Royal Farms.it will be worth it if
> some or all come out).
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Tony KF3AK
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Tue Jun 24 23:17:47 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:17:47 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
In-Reply-To: <CALhMAA6HO-s=13Y6Ak6jD0=Fzv5TsMQY=5FUG4whwvJ-DNhaHw@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes so far participants are scarce other than those arranging stations.? Anyone out there?? A rough current headcount for our 4 plus 3 operating positions is around 10.? How large is this crew you invited?? 

I sure hope someone else is coming to our FD.? I confess I have not actively invited others this year.? 

Curt

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From kf3ak at arrl.net  Wed Jun 25 11:00:40 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:00:40 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
In-Reply-To: <CALhMAA6HO-s=13Y6Ak6jD0=Fzv5TsMQY=5FUG4whwvJ-DNhaHw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CALhMAA6HO-s=13Y6Ak6jD0=Fzv5TsMQY=5FUG4whwvJ-DNhaHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01cf9086$3b1f7b10$b15e7130$@arrl.net>

Curt and Ray,

It was an invitation to the four EM people (Scott Campbell, Doug Brown,
Valerie Hawkins and Kendra Lindenberg) and their families to visit our site
on Saturday after 2pm.  A picnic dinner would likely be served between 6 and
7.   If there will not be a picnic dinner, let me know quickly and I will
get back to them with that change in plans.  

I did not ask for a RSVP.  Doug Brown responded with regrets...he'll be on
vacation.  

It would be nice to have a picnic (like last year's, but it takes
volunteers).

TNX ES 73,
Tony

 

-----Original Message-----
From: K3PZN-List [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 22:21
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)

what time were u thinking Tony?


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:

> Have any plans been made for an evening meal (picnic, order-in, brown 
> bag or
> what) on Saturday at Field Day?
>
>
>
> I invited the CC Office of Emergency Management personnel to our site 
> and promised them a picnic dinner.  If there are no plans, then I must 
> retract that offer (or treat them at the nearby Royal Farms.it will be 
> worth it if some or all come out).
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Tony KF3AK
>
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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Wed Jun 25 11:55:38 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:55:38 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Satellite Pass List FYI
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130DCAE3@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>


Satellite Pass Predictions by N8PK
Derived on Wed June 25, 2014

WinAos   QTH: -77.0/39.4   T#: 13327   Sat.: 9 [Standard]
 ----------------------------------------------------------
     Day     Object       AOS (L) LOS Period maxEl   AZ
 ----------------------------------------------------------
 28.06.2014  FO-29        09:05 09:24    19   27  004 - 231
 28.06.2014  FUNCUBE-1 (AO10:49 11:01    12   23  025 - 166
 28.06.2014  ISS          11:04 11:14    10   19  198 - 063
 28.06.2014  AO-73        11:13 11:25    12   43  019 - 179
 28.06.2014  FUNCUBE-1 (AO12:25 12:37    12   27  000 - 220
 28.06.2014  ISS          12:40 12:51    11   40  246 - 050
 28.06.2014  AO-73        12:50 13:00    10   16  353 - 235

 ************************ FD STARTS ***********************

 28.06.2014  ISS          14:18 14:28    10   13  285 - 052
 28.06.2014  AO-07        14:40 14:59    19   19  109 - 353
 28.06.2014  ISS          15:57 16:05    08   11  312 - 067
 28.06.2014  AO-07        16:30 16:52    22   84  158 - 344
 28.06.2014  VO-52        17:05 17:15    10   12  118 - 009
 28.06.2014  FO-29        17:31 17:49    18   27  126 - 356
 28.06.2014  ISS          17:33 17:44    11   26  313 - 104
 28.06.2014  AO-07        18:25 18:45    20   19  209 - 331
 28.06.2014  VO-52        18:40 18:52    12   58  175 - 345
 28.06.2014  ISS          19:10 19:20    10   38  301 - 146
 28.06.2014  FO-29        19:14 19:34    20   62  176 - 345
 28.06.2014  SO-50        20:44 20:57    13   49  197 - 037
 28.06.2014  FO-29        21:04 21:18    14   09  234 - 328
 28.06.2014  FUNCUBE-1 (AO21:45 21:57    12   20  129 - 001
 28.06.2014  AO-73        22:08 22:21    13   34  144 - 357
 28.06.2014  SO-50        22:25 22:38    13   19  250 - 024
 28.06.2014  FUNCUBE-1 (AO23:20 23:33    13   38  185 - 340
 28.06.2014  AO-73        23:45 23:57    12   22  199 - 335
 

 WinAos   QTH: -77.0/39.4   T#: 13328   Sat.: 9 [Standard]
 ----------------------------------------------------------
     Day     Object       AOS (L) LOS Period maxEl   AZ
 ----------------------------------------------------------
 29.06.2014  SO-50        03:36 03:46    10   07  346 - 080
 29.06.2014  AO-07        04:33 04:53    20   30  026 - 166
 29.06.2014  SO-50        05:16 05:30    14   38  334 - 130
 29.06.2014  AO-07        06:25 06:47    22   58  013 - 213
 29.06.2014  FO-29        06:26 06:44    18   25  025 - 158
 29.06.2014  VO-52        06:27 06:38    11   24  027 - 166
 29.06.2014  SO-50        06:57 07:10    13   25  314 - 179
 29.06.2014  VO-52        08:02 08:14    12   25  359 - 220
 29.06.2014  FO-29        08:10 08:30    20   61  009 - 207
 29.06.2014  AO-07        08:19 08:36    17   13  003 - 263
 29.06.2014  FO-29        09:56 10:11    15   12  357 - 258
 29.06.2014  ISS          10:16 10:24    08   11  183 - 071
 29.06.2014  FUNCUBE-1 (AO11:11 11:23    12   40  020 - 178
 29.06.2014  AO-73        11:35 11:48    13   79  013 - 192
 29.06.2014  ISS          11:51 12:02    11   74  234 - 052
 29.06.2014  FUNCUBE-1 (AO12:47 12:58    11   16  354 - 233
 29.06.2014  AO-73        13:12 13:21    09   09  345 - 248
 29.06.2014  ISS          13:29 13:38    09   16  277 - 047
 29.06.2014  AO-07        13:44 13:58    14   07  079 - 358

************************ FD ENDS ***********************

 29.06.2014  ISS          15:07 15:16    09   10  308 - 063
 29.06.2014  AO-07        15:31 15:52    21   39  133 - 349
 29.06.2014  FO-29        16:38 16:53    15   12  099 - 003
 29.06.2014  ISS          16:44 16:54    10   19  315 - 093
 29.06.2014  VO-52        17:20 17:31    11   17  126 ? 002


Satellite Pass Predictions by N8PK
Wed June 25, 2014






From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 25 13:17:23 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:17:23 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Satellite Pass List FYI
In-Reply-To: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130DCAE3@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130DCAE3@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <1403716643.56414.YahooMailNeo@web162901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Pat

wow - plenty of opportunity for the one satellite QSO we 'need' -- not that I want to reduce the fun factor.? 


I did read the satellite article for last years FD in QST -- recommended reading for anyone.? 


How large of a crew do you need each pass for operating?? I presume one to point the antenna and one to operate -- maybe someone else to monitor the pass on the PC?? Let's arrange for a sufficient team per pass opportunity.? After N8PK scores our critical goal -- maybe we have someone who wishes to make our 'back-up' contacts.??

other than N3VOP, maybe not much satellite experience amongst us (I did RS-12 and RS-10 a long time ago .....)


I suggest a small training module (that can even be emailed) that could include the QST article or whatever, and then a short lecture by N8PK.? (not a bad thing to have 2 training modules in our FD).? Of course include the nuances of using a linear transponder, and our 'less likelihood' of succeeded in the FM bird (ok N8PK might even score there ....).? 


should be fun .... thanks for bringing the stuff and knowledge.? 


Curt



On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:00 PM, "Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680)" <patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov> wrote:
 



Satellite Pass Predictions by N8PK
Derived on Wed June 25, 2014

WinAos?  QTH: -77.0/39.4?  T#: 13327?  Sat.: 9 [Standard]
----------------------------------------------------------
? ?  Day? ?  Object? ? ?  AOS (L) LOS Period maxEl?  AZ
----------------------------------------------------------
28.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 09:05 09:24? ? 19?  27? 004 - 231
28.06.2014? FUNCUBE-1 (AO10:49 11:01? ? 12?  23? 025 - 166
28.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 11:04 11:14? ? 10?  19? 198 - 063
28.06.2014? AO-73? ? ? ? 11:13 11:25? ? 12?  43? 019 - 179
28.06.2014? FUNCUBE-1 (AO12:25 12:37? ? 12?  27? 000 - 220
28.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 12:40 12:51? ? 11?  40? 246 - 050
28.06.2014? AO-73? ? ? ? 12:50 13:00? ? 10?  16? 353 - 235

************************ FD STARTS ***********************

28.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 14:18 14:28? ? 10?  13? 285 - 052
28.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 14:40 14:59? ? 19?  19? 109 - 353
28.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 15:57 16:05? ? 08?  11? 312 - 067
28.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 16:30 16:52? ? 22?  84? 158 - 344
28.06.2014? VO-52? ? ? ? 17:05 17:15? ? 10?  12? 118 - 009
28.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 17:31 17:49? ? 18?  27? 126 - 356
28.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 17:33 17:44? ? 11?  26? 313 - 104
28.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 18:25 18:45? ? 20?  19? 209 - 331
28.06.2014? VO-52? ? ? ? 18:40 18:52? ? 12?  58? 175 - 345
28.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 19:10 19:20? ? 10?  38? 301 - 146
28.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 19:14 19:34? ? 20?  62? 176 - 345
28.06.2014? SO-50? ? ? ? 20:44 20:57? ? 13?  49? 197 - 037
28.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 21:04 21:18? ? 14?  09? 234 - 328
28.06.2014? FUNCUBE-1 (AO21:45 21:57? ? 12?  20? 129 - 001
28.06.2014? AO-73? ? ? ? 22:08 22:21? ? 13?  34? 144 - 357
28.06.2014? SO-50? ? ? ? 22:25 22:38? ? 13?  19? 250 - 024
28.06.2014? FUNCUBE-1 (AO23:20 23:33? ? 13?  38? 185 - 340
28.06.2014? AO-73? ? ? ? 23:45 23:57? ? 12?  22? 199 - 335


WinAos?  QTH: -77.0/39.4?  T#: 13328?  Sat.: 9 [Standard]
----------------------------------------------------------
? ?  Day? ?  Object? ? ?  AOS (L) LOS Period maxEl?  AZ
----------------------------------------------------------
29.06.2014? SO-50? ? ? ? 03:36 03:46? ? 10?  07? 346 - 080
29.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 04:33 04:53? ? 20?  30? 026 - 166
29.06.2014? SO-50? ? ? ? 05:16 05:30? ? 14?  38? 334 - 130
29.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 06:25 06:47? ? 22?  58? 013 - 213
29.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 06:26 06:44? ? 18?  25? 025 - 158
29.06.2014? VO-52? ? ? ? 06:27 06:38? ? 11?  24? 027 - 166
29.06.2014? SO-50? ? ? ? 06:57 07:10? ? 13?  25? 314 - 179
29.06.2014? VO-52? ? ? ? 08:02 08:14? ? 12?  25? 359 - 220
29.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 08:10 08:30? ? 20?  61? 009 - 207
29.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 08:19 08:36? ? 17?  13? 003 - 263
29.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 09:56 10:11? ? 15?  12? 357 - 258
29.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 10:16 10:24? ? 08?  11? 183 - 071
29.06.2014? FUNCUBE-1 (AO11:11 11:23? ? 12?  40? 020 - 178
29.06.2014? AO-73? ? ? ? 11:35 11:48? ? 13?  79? 013 - 192
29.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 11:51 12:02? ? 11?  74? 234 - 052
29.06.2014? FUNCUBE-1 (AO12:47 12:58? ? 11?  16? 354 - 233
29.06.2014? AO-73? ? ? ? 13:12 13:21? ? 09?  09? 345 - 248
29.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 13:29 13:38? ? 09?  16? 277 - 047
29.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 13:44 13:58? ? 14?  07? 079 - 358

************************ FD ENDS ***********************

29.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 15:07 15:16? ? 09?  10? 308 - 063
29.06.2014? AO-07? ? ? ? 15:31 15:52? ? 21?  39? 133 - 349
29.06.2014? FO-29? ? ? ? 16:38 16:53? ? 15?  12? 099 - 003
29.06.2014? ISS? ? ? ? ? 16:44 16:54? ? 10?  19? 315 - 093
29.06.2014? VO-52? ? ? ? 17:20 17:31? ? 11?  17? 126 ? 002


Satellite Pass Predictions by N8PK
Wed June 25, 2014





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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Wed Jun 25 14:22:04 2014
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:22:04 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List]  Re: FD Satellite Pass List FYI
Message-ID: <93D3FE0754D2B24588F04EF0DDAA1D130DCB4D@NDMSMBX302.ndc.nasa.gov>

Hi Curt and all,

Good points made, thank you.

The core satellite station set up and ops will be
a two-person team, and I found my assistant
just recently!  Once we complete the very long
set up and get acclamated to all the new gear
(and we make a contact or two) then we will
open the station wide for satellite ops training,
including one "formal session" for FD bonus
points, if desired.

My assistant is a young ham who is an intern
of mine at work.  Matt Davis, KB3TVB, lives in
Ellicott City and just graduated from McDonough
(High) School in Owings Mills, Md. (the same HS
as our CCARC wonder boy, Andy Leeds, WO3L)!
See https://www.mcdonogh.org/

I'm looking forward to introducing Matt to
everyone.  He has his General Class ticket,
and is working on his Extra.  This fall he is
heading to USC in Los Angeles to study
a hybrid curriculum of Computer Science/
Computer Engineering/Electrical Engineering.

Maybe he will also help keep our logging
Network running throughout the FD
weekend!?!!

STATION CONFIGURATION
Whoa.  Let's just say we will achieve total
automation shortly after FD if not during.
At least as far as antenna pointing control
and Doppler tracking/corrections on the fly.
This station is a part of a CubeSat portable
ground station for training NASA interns
and others.


REQUIRED READING

All K3PZN Field Day participants are urged

to download this FD package and read or

page through as much as possible the PDF

called "Full 2014 ARRL Field Day Information

Packet" found under the dropdown link called

"Rules, Entry Forms and Info Packets" at:

http://www.arrl.org/field-day


PLEASE REVIEW THE SECTION ON BONUS

POINTS and print the Bonus Points check

list, and bring it with you.  A little plotting

or planning can go a long way too!


Let the fun begin!


Cheers,


Pat

N8PK




From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 25 16:23:57 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:23:57 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Roster (updates appreciated) for our 4A + + +
	operation
Message-ID: <1403727837.3132.YahooMailNeo@web162902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

KB3VWK??? 80/40m SSB
KB3WAV??? 20/15m SSB
N3SB??? ??? 80/20m CW
W3JJH??? ?? 10m SSB, 40/15m CW
N3VOP??? ??? VHF? (also will operate SSB on HF ... hint to not exile Mike to VHF if those bands are not propagating!)
N8PK??? ??? Satellite
KB3TVB??? Satellite
KF3AK??? ?? Traffic
KB3QMO??? Traffic
WB8YYY??? CW/SSB available op
WO3L??? ??? SSB available op
AK3Z??? ????? SSB avaialble op (presumed I have not heard from John that he is not coming to FD)

Additions are highly welcome - email me ASAP even if you are uncertain.? Need to know for the dinner count also.? (I count 12 folk thus far).? 


73 Curt

From himself at wjjhoge.net  Wed Jun 25 18:02:45 2014
From: himself at wjjhoge.net (John Hoge)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:02:45 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Roster (updates appreciated) for our 4A + +
	+	operation
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Curt,

The Argonaut VI has a USB port for control. The manual can be  
downloaded from tentec.com. There are reports on the reflector of  
successful use with N1MM.

We can add KB3GHE as a phone op on Saturday.

73 de W3JJH

Quoting Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>:

> KB3VWK??? 80/40m SSB
> KB3WAV??? 20/15m SSB
> N3SB??? ??? 80/20m CW
> W3JJH??? ?? 10m SSB, 40/15m CW
> N3VOP??? ??? VHF? (also will operate SSB on HF ... hint to not exile  
>  Mike to VHF if those bands are not propagating!)
> N8PK??? ??? Satellite
> KB3TVB??? Satellite
> KF3AK??? ?? Traffic
> KB3QMO??? Traffic
> WB8YYY??? CW/SSB available op
> WO3L??? ??? SSB available op
> AK3Z??? ????? SSB avaialble op (presumed I have not heard from John   
> that he is not coming to FD)
>
> Additions are highly welcome - email me ASAP even if you are   
> uncertain.? Need to know for the dinner count also.? (I count 12   
> folk thus far).?
>
>
> 73 Curt
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 18:42:01 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:42:01 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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Hello All  there was some talk about going out friday night to put fence
poles out and get some ideal for station placement is that still a plan?

ray


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <
k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Yes so far participants are scarce other than those arranging stations.
> Anyone out there?  A rough current headcount for our 4 plus 3 operating
> positions is around 10.  How large is this crew you invited?
>
> I sure hope someone else is coming to our FD.  I confess I have not
> actively invited others this year.
>
> Curt
>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 25 19:17:27 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:17:27 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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Ray

I believe we agreed to qrt until WO3L authorizes.? The flea market likely expects availability of 100 percent of the site until activity diminishes.? I don't have this info formally but it can be readily discerned.? 

Yes how to move your RV into a useful spot saturday morning does sound like a challenge.? I don't know if anyone has additional info?

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


From hamster749 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 19:21:43 2014
From: hamster749 at comcast.net (John Chesley)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:21:43 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Roster (updates appreciated) for our 4A + +
	+	operation
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Message-ID: <001501cf90cc$3a009ac0$ae01d040$@net>

Curt and All,

Please accept my apologies, but I will have to play my "availability" by
ear.  My family responsibilities have increased and just got my Dad
recovered from an illness.  This means I will not be available at all on
Sunday and if I am available at all on Saturday may only be able to stop by
at night, long after the "picnic" coals have cooled.

My suggestion is that you wait until late afternoon to determine who will
actually be present for dinner and what they will eat.  Then just go out and
pick up appropriate foods.  This approach will give everyone maximum
operating time.  With a headcount of 10 or less it is probably a good way to
go.  Just my two cents. Perhaps you will have food provided by the other
event you are co-locating with? 

It looks like you are in good hands this year with a good crew and have some
nice plans.    

John, AK3Z

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Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Roster (updates appreciated) for our 4A + + +
operation

KB3VWK??? 80/40m SSB
KB3WAV??? 20/15m SSB
N3SB??? ??? 80/20m CW
W3JJH??? ?? 10m SSB, 40/15m CW
N3VOP??? ??? VHF? (also will operate SSB on HF ... hint to not exile Mike to
VHF if those bands are not propagating!) N8PK??? ??? Satellite KB3TVB???
Satellite KF3AK??? ?? Traffic KB3QMO??? Traffic WB8YYY??? CW/SSB available
op WO3L??? ??? SSB available op AK3Z??? ????? SSB avaialble op (presumed I
have not heard from John that he is not coming to FD)

Additions are highly welcome - email me ASAP even if you are uncertain.?
Need to know for the dinner count also.? (I count 12 folk thus far).? 


73 Curt
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From n3vop at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 25 20:11:37 2014
From: n3vop at hotmail.com (Michael Fisher)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:11:37 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN -- VHF & Digital
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I had planned on doing 6M and maybe some digital (RTTY & PSK) on the HF bands.The QSO's for digital are like CW (double the points) so I think we can get more bang for the buck in the digital mode.I could setup both stations - if someone wanted to take a chair and make some Q's with me. 
Share your thoughts here and we can talk about it face to face on Friday evening.
Mike   N3VOP 		 	   		  

From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Wed Jun 25 20:37:47 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:37:47 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] K3PZN -- VHF & Digital
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Mike

if you wish to also set up digital I have no aversion to being 5A -- my input is to seek to operate all rigs for at least 50% of the available time.? if you have the gear we can decide Saturday before we kick off.? 


as we may end up being tighter than desired let me think thru when to schedule digital bands. 


glad to see the traffic tonite on FD.? 


Curt



On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 8:24 PM, Michael Fisher <n3vop at hotmail.com> wrote:
 




I had planned on doing 6M and maybe some digital (RTTY & PSK) on the HF bands.The QSO's for digital are like CW (double the points) so I think we can get more bang for the buck in the digital mode.I could setup both stations - if someone wanted to take a chair and make some Q's with me. 
Share your thoughts here and we can talk about it face to face on Friday evening.
Mike?  N3VOP ??? ???  ??? ?  ??? ??? ? 
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Fri Jun 27 11:48:55 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:48:55 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Roster (updates appreciated) for our 4A + +
	+	operation
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	<001501cf90cc$3a009ac0$ae01d040$@net>
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Very small adjustment to operator roster -- we still have a place for YOU also to join us!? 


We may decide to go 5A and add Digital modes, with N3VOP also providing this rig/antenna/PC.? we can decide this near the FD kick-off.? 


Here is what I suggest for our operating concept -- to avoid mutual QRM and ease our installation nuances some:

Station??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? 2 pm??? ??? ??? ??? ~ 8 pm?????????? Sunday
? 

1. 80/40 SSB?????????????? 40??????????????????? either??????????? either
2. 20/15 SSB ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 15??????????????????? 20??????????????? either
3. 80/20 CW ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 20 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 80 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? either? (mostly opposite of #2)
4. 10 SSB/40/15 CW??? any?????????????????? any????????????? any ?? (this station is running lower power)
5. digital ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 40 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 40/80 ? ? ? ? ?? 40/20

while 5 transmitters is less desirable you can see the above should work pretty good.? we really need to keep digital off of 20m the first day to keep up CW and SSB rates.? By Sunday we'll just need to work together.? 


I hope to operate W3JJH's rig when he needs a break, but I will gladly operate a little at anyone's rig.? I hope some other members show up so we can let them operate.? 


As KF3AK is such a great operator, it would make my day to get him on 40 or 80m SSB making contacts for a half hour or so.? 


Where is WX3F ? We also have a KH6 in our midst. ? ? 


KB3VWK??? 80/40m SSB
KB3WAV??? 20/15m SSB
N3SB??? ??? 80/20m CW
W3JJH??? ?? 10m SSB, 40/15m CW
N3VOP??? ??? VHF? (also will operate SSB on HF ... hint to not exile Mike to VHF if those bands are not propagating!)
N8PK??? ??? Satellite
KB3TVB??? Satellite
KF3AK??? ?? Traffic
KB3QMO??? Traffic? (did I see that Dave isn't coming?)

KB3GHE??? SSB available op
WB8YYY??? CW/SSB available op
WO3L??? ??? SSB available op
AK3Z??? ????? SSB available op (very scarce so get him a rig whenever he can make it)

Additions
 are highly welcome - email me ASAP even if you are uncertain.? Need to 
know for the dinner count also.??? 


73 Curt


On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:21 PM, John Chesley <hamster749 at comcast.net> wrote:
 


Curt and All,

Please accept my apologies, but I will have to play my "availability" by
ear.? My family responsibilities have increased and just got my Dad
recovered from an illness.? This means I will not be available at all on
Sunday and if I am available at all on Saturday may only be able to stop by
at night, long after the "picnic" coals have cooled.

My suggestion is that you wait until late afternoon to determine who will
actually be present for dinner and what they will eat.? Then just go out and
pick up appropriate foods.? This approach will give everyone maximum
operating time.? With a headcount of 10 or less it is probably a good way to
go.? Just my two cents. Perhaps you will have food provided by the other
event you are co-locating with? 

It looks like you are in good hands this year with a good crew and have some
nice plans.? ? 

John, AK3Z


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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:24 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Roster (updates appreciated) for our 4A + + +
operation

KB3VWK??? 80/40m SSB
KB3WAV??? 20/15m SSB
N3SB??? ??? 80/20m CW
W3JJH??? ?? 10m SSB, 40/15m CW
N3VOP??? ??? VHF? (also will operate SSB on HF ... hint to not exile Mike to
VHF if those bands are not propagating!) N8PK??? ??? Satellite KB3TVB???
Satellite KF3AK??? ?? Traffic KB3QMO??? Traffic WB8YYY??? CW/SSB available
op WO3L??? ??? SSB available op AK3Z??? ????? SSB avaialble op (presumed I
have not heard from John that he is not coming to FD)

Additions are highly welcome - email me ASAP even if you are uncertain.?
Need to know for the dinner count also.? (I count 12 folk thus far).? 


73 Curt
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From kb3vwk at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 07:16:57 2014
From: kb3vwk at gmail.com (Ray Wright)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 07:16:57 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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Hello all  well today is the big day.  Field day upon which all other radio
days are measured.  So the trailer is big do you all want us to bring in
for a cook out?  We might bring it anyway kerri likes hotdogs cooked on the
grill

ray


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:

> Have any plans been made for an evening meal (picnic, order-in, brown bag
> or
> what) on Saturday at Field Day?
>
>
>
> I invited the CC Office of Emergency Management personnel to our site and
> promised them a picnic dinner.  If there are no plans, then I must retract
> that offer (or treat them at the nearby Royal Farms.it will be worth it if
> some or all come out).
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Tony KF3AK
>
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Sat Jun 28 07:48:37 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:48:37 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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Ray

If there is room, sure you can bring the grill.? Sounds like we may launch the radios at 2 pm and figure out dinner soon after.? Coffee sunday morning is next challenge.?? 

Curt

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From himself at wjjhoge.net  Sat Jun 28 08:14:04 2014
From: himself at wjjhoge.net (John Hoge)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 07:14:04 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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Curt,

What time do plan to arrive at Gamber?

A run to Dunkin' Donuts for coffee, bagels, and donuts has worked well  
on Sunday in the past.

73 de W3JJH
John

Quoting Curt Milton via K3PZN-List <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>:

> Ray
>
> If there is room, sure you can bring the grill.? Sounds like we may   
> launch the radios at 2 pm and figure out dinner soon after.? Coffee   
> sunday morning is next challenge.??
>
> Curt
>
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From himself at wjjhoge.net  Sat Jun 28 08:20:50 2014
From: himself at wjjhoge.net (John Hoge)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 07:20:50 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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Curt,

I did a dry run setup of the 10/15m antenna, the radio (no computer),  
and the solar array in the front yard this morning. I was up and  
running in less than a half hour. If there are no computer related  
glitches, we can be on the air by 2pm if we start setup at 1 pm. The  
40/15 antenna and generator power can be added as we go along.

73 de W3JJH
John

From kf3ak at arrl.net  Sat Jun 28 10:22:55 2014
From: kf3ak at arrl.net (Tony KF3AK)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:22:55 -0400
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)
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What's not to like about hotdogs on the grill?   Hoo-RAY for Kerri!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 07:17
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Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Field Day dinner plans (or not)

Hello all  well today is the big day.  Field day upon which all other radio
days are measured.  So the trailer is big do you all want us to bring in for
a cook out?  We might bring it anyway kerri likes hotdogs cooked on the
grill

ray


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Tony KF3AK <kf3ak at arrl.net> wrote:

> Have any plans been made for an evening meal (picnic, order-in, brown 
> bag or
> what) on Saturday at Field Day?
>
>
>
> I invited the CC Office of Emergency Management personnel to our site 
> and promised them a picnic dinner.  If there are no plans, then I must 
> retract that offer (or treat them at the nearby Royal Farms.it will be 
> worth it if some or all come out).
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Tony KF3AK
>
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>
> 73 de K3PZN Westminster, MD
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From k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net  Mon Jun 30 12:00:09 2014
From: k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net (Curt Milton via K3PZN-List)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:00:09 -0700
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FD Wrap-Up: It's the Experience Dude!
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Some wire antennas, a rocket launcher + yagi, a mil mast, some antenna improvising -- a nice RV shelter - some nice radios -- decent ions -- low enough QRN -- reasonable temperatures and no rain -- no issues integrating with the VFD's other event --?things generally worked.? 



1. We had lots of visitors -- including a few former members stopping by.?? FD is a much greater draw than our meetings.? 

2. We had a young guy stop by that saw our yagi on rocket-launcher -- its good for more than making a big signal !? He asked if he could set up his rig for a few QSOs ... wow a little box I have seen in QST and a nice tube with a vertical inside.? He installed and made some Q's.? There is indeed a future for amateur radio!? 

3. It was fun to use a new rig!? W3JJH brought a Argonaut VI.? My report for CW operating - wow.? Very good receive audio, nice selectivity from its adjustable DSP, easy to operate with minimal training, nice fast enough QSY to other bands, nice QSK.? Its 10 watts made it to W6 many times just fine.? We operated many hours on battery/solar.? 

4. Phone ops enjoyed the K3 and FT-950.? 

5. Kerri, Ray and Mike had their Rocketlauncher fix.? Also we elevated the low band phone antenna with it.??
6. Kerri and Ray saved the day for feeding our masses !??
7. W3JJH, N3SB and WB8YYY somehow successfully integrated a rig, PC and antenna -- with a dual power source for the rig.??
8. An eclectic mix of diverse ham radio activities just plane works !? Much more interesting than a one-dimensional FD.? 


While we can lament much, let's not go there!? 


Ok for everyone's benefit -- a few 'minor' things:

1. Need to have cables and drivers in place for PC to talk with the rig.? Our SSB ops 'suffered' without a bandmap.? Root cause understandable as they used rigs others had supplied.? 

2. Spread out more with antennas.? A pair of HF antennas were too close -- but we managed.?
3. If in doubt, provide a means to send CW as a back-up plan.? 

4. Always leverage diverse skills amongst the team

Yikes -- I wish we had provided a visitor log -- but maybe those of us with available non-volatile mental RAM can recreate the list?

NEED -- please email me -- 

1. Station logs -- just send me what it is on your computer or a summary by band/mode
2. Backing for bonus points we should claim
3. We'll do our scoring duty.? Keep in mind OUR SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE scored very high.? 


Strategy?? Need to seek some 'positive bounce' in our club follow-through.? My simple ideas:? (likely you have better ones!)

a. Advance our capabilities for moving traffic -- further Winlink and plug into Mesh-Net Wi-Fi ?? 

b. Nurture 'geek' activities for those few of us into that stuff
c. Explore a plan B for perhaps a future 'inclement' FD
d. Further our connection with other clubs?? 

e. Long Range: by some scheme could we find a place for a remote operable HF station?? would provide emcomm for a local disaster or support someone else's disaster.? at off-times it could serve aging population that might live where they can't have a radio.? ok perhaps unrelated to FD, well except for class F participation someday.? 


73 CUL Curt

