[K3PZN-List] Antenna Problems
Curt Milton
wb8yyy at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 3 10:18:18 EST 2012
Ray
A G5RV antenna is designed to emphasize its radiation conditions over many bands - not its VSWR.
It is very difficult to make an antenna with a low VSWR on every band at the same time.
For a full-sized G5RV - its VSWR is best on 20m - but even here it may not get close to a 1:1 VSWR.
This website has a plot of VSWR vs frequency. Note it will vary some versus height and installation particulars.
http://www.w8ji.com/g5rv_facts.htm
Looking at this curve with my own eyes - with some kind of antenna tuner - it will be most useful on 20, 40 and 80 meters. On the lower bands the high VSWR is less of a problem because coax loss is lower. To a ham in 'olden times' these were the 3 most important bands. The antenna might also be useful on 12m - but it depends where the resonance lands.
I suggest evaluating your antenna first on 20m - to see if you can find a place where VSWR dips some. If you are using a normal VSWR meter I would check VSWR about every 50 kHz on 20m. If its VSWR does not change and is very high, I might suspect you would have a connection problem.
Finding those dips on 40 and 80m may be a little tougher, so this is why I suggest evaluating 20m first. Keep in mind your antennas behavior will be similar but not at exactly same frequencies to this one.
I agree it is a 'confusing antenna' from its VSWR response. But it should be a very good antenna on 20m, and useful on 40 and 80m. Some day when you want to add 15 and 10m, these are much smaller dipoles and these 2 dipoles can be feed with the same coax feed. I do use one ladder line fed antenna here that uses no coax - and it is useful.
A bit complex - here is another description of this antenna: http://www.qsl.net/aa3px/g5rv.htm -- yes this write up is by G5RV himself.
Meanwhile do not give up on the G5RV antenna - but do figure out if it has a changing VSWR vs. frequency. I emailed the gang since I did not include an attachment, and that they would not type the same info to you. I am good in phone book so call me if you need to talk.
Curt
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From: Ray Wright <razor42 at hughes.net>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Antenna Problems
Sorry changed the subject to antenna problem. Sorry for the additional
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Wright" <razor42 at hughes.net>
To: "Carroll County Amateur Radio Club" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:48 PM
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> hello everyone Ray KB3VWK
>
> Well Kerri Kb3wav and I got a G5RV antenna had got some LMR 400 from Mike
> hooked it all up. I have the antenna at 60ft on both ends and 40ft at the
> feed point. But I am still getting high swr's Any help on correcting
> this
> problem would be greatly appreciated. I am going to work on the ground
> tmw. But would like to know if anyone in the club has a g5rv and how do
> you
> have it set up. It is feed with ladder line and the instructions call
> for
> antenna tunner I am using an ldg 11pro.
>
>
> regards ray
>
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