From geobra at att.net  Mon Feb  2 13:07:21 2009
From: geobra at att.net (Rich Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:07:21 +0000
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest
Message-ID: <020220091807.8184.4987365900002A4D00001FF822218683269B0A02D29B9B0EBF0E9D0D010A09@att.net>

Nice close hamfest not to be held this year.

Rich, N3III
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From: "fgentges at mindspring.com" <fgentges at mindspring.com> 
To: Tacos <tacos at amrad.org> 
Subject: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest 
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:33:50 +0000 


Gaithersburg MD and now the Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest. What 
next? I hope they find a solution. Thanks to the LARG reflector for 
passing this along. 

Do not forget the hamfest at Richmond Va this coming Saturday, Feb 7, at 
the racetrack. 

Frank K0BRA 

> [Original Message] 
> From: Bob Moroney 
> To: FARC Mail List 
> Date: 1/30/2009 10:55:48 PM 
> Subject: [FARC] 2009 Father's Day Hamfest - Canceled 
> 
> 
> As you may already have heard, the 2009 edition of our Father's Day 
> Hamfest has been canceled. 
> 
> As you can imagine, the decision to do this was not an easy one. It was 
> made only after extended discussion among the current officers of the 
> Frederick Amateur Radio Club and other members, who together brought 
> many years of experience with our Hamfest to the table. 
> 
> I personally believe that this decision is in the best interests of our 
> Club at this time, in view of the many factors that have affected 
> Hamfest attendance in general in recent years. 
> 
> But please, let me be clear that our decision only addresses our 2009 
> event. In no way does it mean that the Frederick Amateur Radio Club 
> will never again host another Hamfest. As the saying goes, "Stay tuned 
> for further developments". 
> 
> Realistically, although we may not soon hold another event on the same 
> scale, or on Father's Day, or at the Frederick Fairgrounds, the members 
> of the FARC can certainly pull together to put on future FARC Hamfests 
> and/or similar Ham Radio gatherings and flea market events. 
> 
> Again, stay tuned, and stay involved if you value this aspect of the Ham 
> Radio hobby. 
> 
> For now, the immediate task that we can all help with is to make sure 
> that the local Ham community and others who have supported our Hamfest 
> in the past are made aware of the fact that there will NOT be a Father's 
> Day Hamfest in Frederick this year. 
> 
> This will be difficult, perhaps impossible to do with 100% coverage. I 
> have no doubt that some folks will go into autopilot mode on Father's 
> Day, 6/21/09, and show up at the Fairgrounds in spite of our best 
> efforts. So please help in passing the word. Perhaps we can keep those 
> numbers down, and prevent some frustration. 
> 
> And finally, THANK YOU ALL for your support of the Frederick Amateur 
> Radio Club and the many Father's Day Hamfests we've successfully 
> hosted, along with the other events and efforts we sponsor and 
> participate in. 
> 
> The Frederick Amateur Radio Club will be meeting on Monday, 2/16/09, as 
> usual. Obviously, Topic #1 will be to chart the best way forward from 
> where we are today. 
> 
> If you're not the "stay tuned" type, and would like to help steer our 
> Club into the future, your attendance, participation and input will be 
> more than welcome. 
> 
> 73, Bob K9CMR 
_______________________________________________ 
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http://www.amrad.org/mailman/listinfo/tacos 


From Dave.E.Blank at bge.com  Mon Feb  2 13:52:56 2009
From: Dave.E.Blank at bge.com (Blank, Dave E)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:52:56 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest
Message-ID: <EE571B1BBC6F9646B1E6378A10E5E6F93819DFA0BB@EXM-MSW-01.Ceg.Corp.Net>

I have some hf rigs I will be selling soon. I am currebtly in Kentucky helping with the ice storm.  
David E. Blank

----- Original Message -----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net <k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: CCARC Reflector <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon Feb 02 13:07:21 2009
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest

Nice close hamfest not to be held this year.

Rich, N3III
-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
From: "fgentges at mindspring.com" <fgentges at mindspring.com> 
To: Tacos <tacos at amrad.org> 
Subject: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest 
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:33:50 +0000 


Gaithersburg MD and now the Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest. What 
next? I hope they find a solution. Thanks to the LARG reflector for 
passing this along. 

Do not forget the hamfest at Richmond Va this coming Saturday, Feb 7, at 
the racetrack. 

Frank K0BRA 

> [Original Message] 
> From: Bob Moroney 
> To: FARC Mail List 
> Date: 1/30/2009 10:55:48 PM 
> Subject: [FARC] 2009 Father's Day Hamfest - Canceled 
> 
> 
> As you may already have heard, the 2009 edition of our Father's Day 
> Hamfest has been canceled. 
> 
> As you can imagine, the decision to do this was not an easy one. It was 
> made only after extended discussion among the current officers of the 
> Frederick Amateur Radio Club and other members, who together brought 
> many years of experience with our Hamfest to the table. 
> 
> I personally believe that this decision is in the best interests of our 
> Club at this time, in view of the many factors that have affected 
> Hamfest attendance in general in recent years. 
> 
> But please, let me be clear that our decision only addresses our 2009 
> event. In no way does it mean that the Frederick Amateur Radio Club 
> will never again host another Hamfest. As the saying goes, "Stay tuned 
> for further developments". 
> 
> Realistically, although we may not soon hold another event on the same 
> scale, or on Father's Day, or at the Frederick Fairgrounds, the members 
> of the FARC can certainly pull together to put on future FARC Hamfests 
> and/or similar Ham Radio gatherings and flea market events. 
> 
> Again, stay tuned, and stay involved if you value this aspect of the Ham 
> Radio hobby. 
> 
> For now, the immediate task that we can all help with is to make sure 
> that the local Ham community and others who have supported our Hamfest 
> in the past are made aware of the fact that there will NOT be a Father's 
> Day Hamfest in Frederick this year. 
> 
> This will be difficult, perhaps impossible to do with 100% coverage. I 
> have no doubt that some folks will go into autopilot mode on Father's 
> Day, 6/21/09, and show up at the Fairgrounds in spite of our best 
> efforts. So please help in passing the word. Perhaps we can keep those 
> numbers down, and prevent some frustration. 
> 
> And finally, THANK YOU ALL for your support of the Frederick Amateur 
> Radio Club and the many Father's Day Hamfests we've successfully 
> hosted, along with the other events and efforts we sponsor and 
> participate in. 
> 
> The Frederick Amateur Radio Club will be meeting on Monday, 2/16/09, as 
> usual. Obviously, Topic #1 will be to chart the best way forward from 
> where we are today. 
> 
> If you're not the "stay tuned" type, and would like to help steer our 
> Club into the future, your attendance, participation and input will be 
> more than welcome. 
> 
> 73, Bob K9CMR 
_______________________________________________ 
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Tacos at amrad.org 
http://www.amrad.org/mailman/listinfo/tacos 

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From n3wzr at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  2 16:13:46 2009
From: n3wzr at yahoo.com (Chuck Schertle)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:13:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest
References: <EE571B1BBC6F9646B1E6378A10E5E6F93819DFA0BB@EXM-MSW-01.Ceg.Corp.Net>
Message-ID: <396920.17472.qm@web53805.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Dave

Let me know what you have on the For Sale block. Seems that I have been having a few people asking for rigs here lately.

Chuck Schertle
N3WZR




________________________________
From: "Blank, Dave E" <Dave.E.Blank at bge.com>
To: "k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:52:56 PM
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest

I have some hf rigs I will be selling soon. I am currebtly in Kentucky helping with the ice storm.  
David E. Blank

----- Original Message -----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net <k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: CCARC Reflector <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon Feb 02 13:07:21 2009
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest

Nice close hamfest not to be held this year.

Rich, N3III
-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
From: "fgentges at mindspring.com" <fgentges at mindspring.com> 
To: Tacos <tacos at amrad.org> 
Subject: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest 
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:33:50 +0000 


Gaithersburg MD and now the Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest. What 
next? I hope they find a solution. Thanks to the LARG reflector for 
passing this along. 

Do not forget the hamfest at Richmond Va this coming Saturday, Feb 7, at 
the racetrack. 

Frank K0BRA 

> [Original Message] 
> From: Bob Moroney 
> To: FARC Mail List 
> Date: 1/30/2009 10:55:48 PM 
> Subject: [FARC] 2009 Father's Day Hamfest - Canceled 
> 
> 
> As you may already have heard, the 2009 edition of our Father's Day 
> Hamfest has been canceled. 
> 
> As you can imagine, the decision to do this was not an easy one. It was 
> made only after extended discussion among the current officers of the 
> Frederick Amateur Radio Club and other members, who together brought 
> many years of experience with our Hamfest to the table. 
> 
> I personally believe that this decision is in the best interests of our 
> Club at this time, in view of the many factors that have affected 
> Hamfest attendance in general in recent years. 
> 
> But please, let me be clear that our decision only addresses our 2009 
> event. In no way does it mean that the Frederick Amateur Radio Club 
> will never again host another Hamfest. As the saying goes, "Stay tuned 
> for further developments". 
> 
> Realistically, although we may not soon hold another event on the same 
> scale, or on Father's Day, or at the Frederick Fairgrounds, the members 
> of the FARC can certainly pull together to put on future FARC Hamfests 
> and/or similar Ham Radio gatherings and flea market events. 
> 
> Again, stay tuned, and stay involved if you value this aspect of the Ham 
> Radio hobby. 
> 
> For now, the immediate task that we can all help with is to make sure 
> that the local Ham community and others who have supported our Hamfest 
> in the past are made aware of the fact that there will NOT be a Father's 
> Day Hamfest in Frederick this year. 
> 
> This will be difficult, perhaps impossible to do with 100% coverage. I 
> have no doubt that some folks will go into autopilot mode on Father's 
> Day, 6/21/09, and show up at the Fairgrounds in spite of our best 
> efforts. So please help in passing the word. Perhaps we can keep those 
> numbers down, and prevent some frustration. 
> 
> And finally, THANK YOU ALL for your support of the Frederick Amateur 
> Radio Club and the many Father's Day Hamfests we've successfully 
> hosted, along with the other events and efforts we sponsor and 
> participate in. 
> 
> The Frederick Amateur Radio Club will be meeting on Monday, 2/16/09, as 
> usual. Obviously, Topic #1 will be to chart the best way forward from 
> where we are today. 
> 
> If you're not the "stay tuned" type, and would like to help steer our 
> Club into the future, your attendance, participation and input will be 
> more than welcome. 
> 
> 73, Bob K9CMR 
_______________________________________________ 
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Tacos at amrad.org 
http://www.amrad.org/mailman/listinfo/tacos 

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From Dave.E.Blank at bge.com  Mon Feb  2 17:13:10 2009
From: Dave.E.Blank at bge.com (Blank, Dave E)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:13:10 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest
Message-ID: <EE571B1BBC6F9646B1E6378A10E5E6F93819DFA0BD@EXM-MSW-01.Ceg.Corp.Net>

Will do have right now 2 HF base units and one or two tuners
David E. Blank

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From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net <k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Mon Feb 02 16:13:46 2009
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest

Hey Dave

Let me know what you have on the For Sale block. Seems that I have been having a few people asking for rigs here lately.

Chuck Schertle
N3WZR

________________________________
From: "Blank, Dave E" <Dave.E.Blank at bge.com>
To: "k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:52:56 PM
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest

I have some hf rigs I will be selling soon. I am currebtly in Kentucky helping with the ice storm.
David E. Blank

----- Original Message -----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net> <k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net>>
To: CCARC Reflector <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net<mailto:k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>>
Sent: Mon Feb 02 13:07:21 2009
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FW: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest

Nice close hamfest not to be held this year.

Rich, N3III
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "fgentges at mindspring.com<mailto:fgentges at mindspring.com>" <fgentges at mindspring.com<mailto:fgentges at mindspring.com>>
To: Tacos <tacos at amrad.org<mailto:tacos at amrad.org>>
Subject: Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:33:50 +0000


Gaithersburg MD and now the Fredrick MD Father's Day Hamfest. What
next? I hope they find a solution. Thanks to the LARG reflector for
passing this along.

Do not forget the hamfest at Richmond Va this coming Saturday, Feb 7, at
the racetrack.

Frank K0BRA

> [Original Message]
> From: Bob Moroney
> To: FARC Mail List
> Date: 1/30/2009 10:55:48 PM
> Subject: [FARC] 2009 Father's Day Hamfest - Canceled
>
>
> As you may already have heard, the 2009 edition of our Father's Day
> Hamfest has been canceled.
>
> As you can imagine, the decision to do this was not an easy one. It was
> made only after extended discussion among the current officers of the
> Frederick Amateur Radio Club and other members, who together brought
> many years of experience with our Hamfest to the table.
>
> I personally believe that this decision is in the best interests of our
> Club at this time, in view of the many factors that have affected
> Hamfest attendance in general in recent years.
>
> But please, let me be clear that our decision only addresses our 2009
> event. In no way does it mean that the Frederick Amateur Radio Club
> will never again host another Hamfest. As the saying goes, "Stay tuned
> for further developments".
>
> Realistically, although we may not soon hold another event on the same
> scale, or on Father's Day, or at the Frederick Fairgrounds, the members
> of the FARC can certainly pull together to put on future FARC Hamfests
> and/or similar Ham Radio gatherings and flea market events.
>
> Again, stay tuned, and stay involved if you value this aspect of the Ham
> Radio hobby.
>
> For now, the immediate task that we can all help with is to make sure
> that the local Ham community and others who have supported our Hamfest
> in the past are made aware of the fact that there will NOT be a Father's
> Day Hamfest in Frederick this year.
>
> This will be difficult, perhaps impossible to do with 100% coverage. I
> have no doubt that some folks will go into autopilot mode on Father's
> Day, 6/21/09, and show up at the Fairgrounds in spite of our best
> efforts. So please help in passing the word. Perhaps we can keep those
> numbers down, and prevent some frustration.
>
> And finally, THANK YOU ALL for your support of the Frederick Amateur
> Radio Club and the many Father's Day Hamfests we've successfully
> hosted, along with the other events and efforts we sponsor and
> participate in.
>
> The Frederick Amateur Radio Club will be meeting on Monday, 2/16/09, as
> usual. Obviously, Topic #1 will be to chart the best way forward from
> where we are today.
>
> If you're not the "stay tuned" type, and would like to help steer our
> Club into the future, your attendance, participation and input will be
> more than welcome.
>
> 73, Bob K9CMR
_______________________________________________
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From ke3fl at juno.com  Mon Feb  2 21:47:25 2009
From: ke3fl at juno.com (ke3fl at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:47:25 GMT
Subject: [K3PZN-List] FWD: WinterFest - KE3FL
Message-ID: <20090202.214725.11634.1@webmail12.vgs.untd.com>

Dear Ham

IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN!

On behalf of The Vienna Wireless Society I want to remind you that
WINTERFEST '09 will be held on Sunday, February 22nd on the Annandale
Campus of Northern Virginia Community College.

Also, if you or your organization needs a table, please contact Dennis
Voegler, WA4QMS, at 703-534-2081.

Spread the word amongst your fellow hams.  Please announce the event at
your upcoming meeting.  Help us keep this most important Amateur Radio
tradition alive and well.

All of us hope to see you at Winterfest '09.

73
Ray
KJ4CNN


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From wo3l at comcast.net  Tue Feb  3 19:52:09 2009
From: wo3l at comcast.net (Andy Leeds)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:52:09 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Postponed Board Meeting Canceled
Message-ID: <4988E6B9.1020001@comcast.net>


Based on a large number of the board being unavailable tomorrow evening 
the board meeting has been canceled.

On a side note its election time soon, we are looking for nominations 
for all offices.

Andy

From ke3fl at juno.com  Tue Feb  3 20:16:04 2009
From: ke3fl at juno.com (ke3fl at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:16:04 GMT
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Fw: 2009 Hamfest Calendar Request for Updates
Message-ID: <20090203.201604.14991.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>

I'm assuming our hamfest is Sunday the 25th of October?

Whoever is in charge should contact / update this QSL listing if it hasn't already been done.

73 de ke3fl
Phil

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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  5 16:23:14 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:23:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Operating Activities: ARRL State QSO Party Self-Award
	- First 4 This Weekend !
Message-ID: <486131.6487.qm@web53906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In 2009 the ARRL is encouraging hams to make at least 1 QSO in each state's QSO party -- and literally to make your own reward certificate by adding a 'stamp' for each state.  

This weekend, the first 4 states of the year have their QSO parties:

VT, MN, DE and NM -- 3 out-of-4 states are pretty rare.  

I suspect the action will be on Saturday: late morning and afternoon -- both phone and CW.  

Note if the other operator participates in LOTW, the QSO's also count toward the 2009 Triple-Play Award also !  

It's worth a little fun -- I don't plan on seeking a ARRL triple play certificate myself - but I am watching my score for fun.  

Stay tuned - we may consider our own (easier) version of the Triple Play as a club award !  (in discussion but I have received no feedback yet)

Meanwhile -- I am going to try to make at least one QSO on both CW and SSB to each of these 4 states.  




      

From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  6 15:01:10 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:01:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Feb Meeting Presentation
Message-ID: <797707.35954.qm@web53901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Club member Tom KB3PNU will present Echolink to us.?Hope to see you there!? 
?

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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  6 15:18:44 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Club Project Ideas - Follow-up
Message-ID: <815255.46266.qm@web53909.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Here is my 'complete' list of topics I have generated for possible club consideration as building projects that could be facilitated by the club --

1. battery voltage sensor, was described in the Microwave column of QST -- it has status LEDs.  (status i am considering a prototype, IF i can handle the small IC I have on hand!  it would be simple.  

2. digital mode interface, in particular for use with a 2m FM rig, to facilitate Easypal operation.  (status -- needs to be designed, it should be fairly simple -- we should review the transmit audio and PTT interfaces for the VHF/UHF rigs we each use)

3. Regen receiver.  (status - i have a prototype almost working.  it is clearly an exercise in nostalgia.  honestly, a superhet receiver while taking more parts is actually easier and more useful !  if someone is really interested, i will gladly provide technical info!)

4. Superhet receiver.  if we define a band of interest, likely we can design and kit something inexpensive.  clearly one could do CW and SSB, we would need to evaluate how well it will do PSK31 (status - i could explore how well psk31 works with my breadboard superhet i have)

5. PSK31/CW transceiver for perhaps 80m.  can we really design a cheap enough rig that will do PSK31 as a primary mode, and also include some CW capability ?  it would be a portable unit that could be fieldable with a laptop.  perhaps 80m would be the most useful for ARES use and for QSOs within the county?  could we develop and kit something for something like $40, so we could literally offer kits to interested youth (who have passed their general class exam ?)  status - clearly it needs to be designed!  

6. other ideas ??

literally we need to recruit a small committee of interested persons to move out and further explore, propose and eventually kit the parts required (and provide technical support to builders).  

FYI -- my current/ongoing projects:
1. homebrew QRP receiver, eventual transceiver -- it has a ways to go but basic receiver is working (i may add AGC ...)
2. digital mode interface - for transmit, does PTT based on transmit audio - design from ARRL HB
3. regen receiver - i hope to refine it for 80m operation
4. determining what CW paddle I should buy to upgrade my station ...

73, curt

 


      

From comulada at verizon.net  Sat Feb  7 14:09:01 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:09:01 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
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Curt,

 

Ok, well looks like I have roughly around 80? of RG213 coax, 35? of it
still needs pl259?s installed. I also have 40-50? of what I think is 75?
coax, the stuff that the cable company left coiled on the side of my house.
It?s a really bright orange (it?s the buried type). I haven?t really
used that too much but it should still be useable in some way in the shack,
I hope? 

 

I picked up a roll of 14 gauge stranded wire to build a dipole or few for
the shack. Got it at an electrical supply house and it was $10 cheaper than
Homey depot! Going to most likely build my own insulators and the center
isolator for the antenna but, was wondering if I should really use coax or
order ladder line? I?ve been reading some articles and most are making it
out like ladder line is better suited to dipoles than coax with the need
for a balun and line loss. I don?t think I?ll be going much more than
100? but, my shack is on the opposite side of the house (in the basement)
from the back yard where the antennas will be. It?s definitely cheaper
than coax and I think I would have enough coax for two runs to the back of
the house with what I have. I would have to get or build one or two of the
transformers a couple of the supply houses sell so that I could run ladder
line out side the house and coax inside the shack... 

 

The other thing I have to get or borrow is either an antenna analyzer or a
swr meter to get the dipole resonant on freq. Not sure which I want or need
to do yet. I assume the swr meter would be the best/cheapest bet for my
budget unless someone in the club has an analyzer to use.

 

What?s your experience been or am I analyzing this too much? I really just
want to get on the air without taking a long time to get the perfect
situation that will eventually get frustrating for me. The antenna is the
most important part, I know, but not having a radio won?t do the antenna
in the air any good at all.. The waiting is the hardest part!

 

Anthony

KB3RJH   

 

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From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
qth.net] On Behalf Of Curt Milton
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:39 AM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...

 


Definitely start work on your antenna - and see how far the coax you have
reaches.

 

Generally at a hamfest there is no opportunity to power up a rig, unless
seller brought a battery and mobile antenna.  Your best opportunity is
likely a sale 'from a home.'  But you never know!  

 

I do like the way older rigs have their controls laid out - plus

 

The controls on a rig age more than the electronics -- its the only minor
maladies my TS-140 has!  That is why I wonder if other 20-year old rigs
have the same issue.  My power supply model is Astron RS-20A (since i can
see it from here!)  - its an old fashioned linear supply - black box with
switch on front, fuse in back along with terminals.  After 20 years it
powers my modern rig.  

 

(i did buy a little 7amp astron at a hamfest -- when i plugged it in it
smoked!  the overvoltage protection thingey was what smoked.  i cut it out,
and the think works ... i use it only on the test bench since 7 amps
doesn't power anything above say 20 watts!  

 

I don't have broadband at home, but if you need QST reviews of particular
rigs I can download them and email at work.  

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From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
To: "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 11:04 AM

Thanks for the reply Curt, that?s what I was leaning towards. I am still
looking though and he just mentioned it to me after I said I needed to get
a HF rig now that I have my General ticket but, I am going to try out as
many Rigs as I can before settling on anything specific. I really want to
wait till the Timonium fest to see what?s going to be there. Don?t want to
rush into anything before I go over every possibility. I?ve generally been
the impulse purchase guy and I?m trying to change that so I?m not
disappointed and frustrated with something I didn?t put much thought into.
Still have put something up antenna-wise and probably need some more coax
too. So much to consider...

 

73

 

Anthony 

 

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From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:39 AM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...

 


Anthony

 

let's see if I can give you a little info.  when i bought my first 'modern'
rig in 1989 the IC735 was a nice rig beyond my financial reach (so i bought
a TS-140 and had lot's of fun).  

 

i can email you the arrl review on the IC-735 if you wish.  

 

my own guess at pricing --

 

a 20 amp power supply i presume ? new a bit over $100.  used still worth $
60-70 (and a bit more if it is an Icom brand which doesn't matter that much
- i use a generic Astron)

 

dummy load -- i don't know exactly - maybe $30 or more.  

 

rig - if it is useable shape - i would say $300.  so it looks like a fair
price at a quick glance.  

 

definitely you should operate the rig, and check out the controls.  arrange
for someone to give you a signal report.  try the rig on at least a couple
bands.  


i am trying to remember if this rig has a battery memory issue ?  i thought
there is a malady where this rig loses its operating system - and may
require being fixed at Icom?  likely there is a fix here 'before it happens
- and possibly/maybe likely it is taken care of.  i can't remember if its
redundant batteries or how it works.  

 

the oldness of the rig does give me a creepy feeling not to put too much
into it.  likely the power supply could be used with a new rig.  as i
shared i know my old TS-140 has a couple annoyances.  at $300 it might be a
'good deal' -- hint.  then if it is used for just a few years, you have a
power supply for your next rig!  

 

and it doesn't hurt to ask some one on the new about the seller, off the
net of course!  very likely indeed a ham has a good rig at a fair market
price -- but do a little more homework with help from others!  

 

73, curt

 

PS - the cheapest new rigs are around $600-700.  its getting a power supply
that stretches things a bit


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From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
To: ke3fl at yahoo.com , "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '" <k3pzn-
list at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:54 AM

Was on a net this morning and one of the guys has an Icom 735 he's looking
to sell. I've looked at the reviews on eham and they look pretty positive.
It looks like a nice rig and not a lot of complicated menus to fight with.
He says it's in mint condition and it comes with mic, p/s, dummy load and
manual, if I remember correctly. He said he paid about $800 for it when it
was new and he said he's looking for about $400 for it. Any thoughts on the
Rig, Good/Bad deal? 

73,

Anthony
KB3RJH

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From n3sb at qis.net  Sat Feb  7 15:33:14 2009
From: n3sb at qis.net (n3sb at qis.net)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:33:14 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] CCARC January 2009 Meeting Minutes
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Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Meeting Minutes, 12 January 2009

President Andy Leeds, WO3L called the meeting to order at 7:37 PM. Seventeen
members and no guests were present.

Evening Presentation:

Andy WO3L gave a presentation about his newly installed WiFi system, which he
has set up to provide a data link between two homes.

Announcements:

The next CCARC meeting will be on Monday February 9th 7:30 PM at the Emergency
Services Training Center in Westminster.

>From the mailbag:

The club's mail was briefly reviewed.

Treasurer's Report:

The treasurer's report was presented, detailing current balances, income, and
expenses. The report was accepted by the membership present.

Committee Reports:

DCS - A DCS meeting is scheduled for the Fourth Monday in January.

Station Committee - No report.

Training & Education Committee - Committee still open.

ARES / RACES - A RACES Commex is scheduled Tuesday January 13th. ARES and RACES
are making plans to provide emergency communications support for the
Presidential Inauguration on Janary 20th.

Old Business:

None.

New Business:

None.

Andy WO3L adjourned the meeting at approximately 8:34 PM.

Respectfully submitted;
Steve N3SB
CCARC Secretary




From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  7 16:50:23 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:50:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
Message-ID: <662371.54528.qm@web53912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Anthony
?
good questions, and thankfully they are not too hard - except there is always a bit of 'it depends' involved.? 
?
first, let me know if you are in need of a couple PL259's - and you can pay me back after you acquire some at a future hamfest.? 
?
I suggest starting with the 50 ohm coax.? But don't throw away the other coax as likely it will work for something!? 
?
Ladder line is good stuff, but I would not let it hold you up.? Ladder line does allow antennas to be used on multiple bands -- while coax requires a good match to work well.? 
?
You could make a dipole for a couple bands, say 80 and 40 or 40 and 20 -- and put them in parallel on the same piece of coax.? Advantage here is that you won't need an antenna tuner.? 
?
With ladder line, you could take a 80m dipole and match it on other bands with minimal loss, but this requires a tuner for all bands.? Ladder line also has to be offset inches away from anything metal, since it guides the RF versus keeping it all inside like coax.? 
?
Maybe you can find a ham with a SWR analyzer who can make a house call - but i suggest acquiring a VSWR meter because you need one anyway.? I myself don't own a SWR analyzer, and since it costs almost as much as a good used rig -- I suggest surviving without one!? If a dipole is cut just a little bit longer than the formula, and you check VSWR at both ends of the band, you can figure out if indeed it is too long.? As you shorten it, just wrap it over the dipole until you are sure you don't need it - then you can cut the excess.?? 

Hams will analyze antennas for as long as they are hams!? When I put up my first dipole in 1976, i didn't even have a vswr meter - but tube rigs are more forgiving here.? When I put up my first station in Maryland, I merely hoisted up a pair of dipoles and that is how I got started.? 
?
Assemble your antenna, and when you acquire a rig likely someone can come by and help you adjust your dipole.? Maybe you can find someone closer than me as I live on the opposite end of Carroll Co. !? 
?
I did do a little more research and now I am not sure the IC-735 has a battery-memory loss issue ??? 
?
73, curt

--- On Sat, 2/7/09, ARC <comulada at verizon.net> wrote:


From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
To: "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:09 PM








Curt,
?
Ok, well looks like I have roughly around 80? of RG213 coax, 35? of it still needs pl259?s installed. I also have 40-50? of what I think is 75? coax, the stuff that the cable company left coiled on the side of my house. It?s a really bright orange (it?s the buried type). I haven?t really used that too much but it should still be useable in some way in the shack, I hope? 
?
I picked up a roll of 14 gauge stranded wire to build a dipole or few for the shack. Got it at an electrical supply house and it was $10 cheaper than Homey depot! Going to most likely build my own insulators and the center isolator for the antenna but, was wondering if I should really use coax or order ladder line? I?ve been reading some articles and most are making it out like ladder line is better suited to dipoles than coax with the need for a balun and line loss. I don?t think I?ll be going much more than 100? but, my shack is on the opposite side of the house (in the basement) from the back yard where the antennas will be. It?s definitely cheaper than coax and I think I would have enough coax for two runs to the back of the house with what I have. I would have to get or build one or two of the transformers a couple of the supply houses sell so that I could run ladder line out side the house and coax inside the shack... 
?
The other thing I have to get or borrow is either an antenna analyzer or a swr meter to get the dipole resonant on freq. Not sure which I want or need to do yet. I assume the swr meter would be the best/cheapest bet for my budget unless someone in the club has an analyzer to use.
?
What?s your experience been or am I analyzing this too much? I really just want to get on the air without taking a long time to get the perfect situation that will eventually get frustrating for me. The antenna is the most important part, I know, but not having a radio won?t do the antenna in the air any good at all.. The waiting is the hardest part!
?
Anthony
KB3RJH ??
?



From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Curt Milton
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:39 AM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
?





Definitely start work on your antenna - and see how far the coax you have reaches.

?

Generally at a hamfest there is no opportunity to power up a rig, unless seller brought a battery and mobile antenna.? Your best opportunity is likely a sale 'from a home.'? But you never know!? 

?

I do like the way older rigs have their controls laid out - plus

?

The controls on a rig age more than the electronics -- its the only minor maladies my TS-140 has!? That is why I wonder if other 20-year old rigs have the same issue.? My power supply model is Astron RS-20A (since i can see it from here!)? - its an old fashioned linear supply - black box with switch on front, fuse in back along with terminals.? After 20 years it powers my modern rig.? 

?

(i did buy a little 7amp astron at a hamfest -- when i plugged it in it smoked!? the overvoltage protection thingey was what smoked.? i cut it out, and the think works ... i use it only on the test bench since 7 amps doesn't power anything above say 20 watts!? 

?

I don't have broadband at home, but if you need QST reviews of particular rigs I can download them and email at work.? 

--- On Sat, 1/31/09, ARC <comulada at verizon.net> wrote:


From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
To: "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 11:04 AM


Thanks for the reply Curt, that?s what I was leaning towards. I am still looking though and he just mentioned it to me after I said I needed to get a HF rig now that I have my General ticket but, I am going to try out as many Rigs as I can before settling on anything specific. I really want to wait till the Timonium fest to see what?s going to be there. Don?t want to rush into anything before I go over every possibility. I?ve generally been the impulse purchase guy and I?m trying to change that so I?m not disappointed and frustrated with something I didn?t put much thought into. Still have put something up antenna-wise and probably need some more coax too. So much to consider...
?
73
?
Anthony 
?




From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Curt Milton
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:39 AM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
?





Anthony

?

let's see if I can give you a little info.? when i bought my first 'modern' rig in 1989 the IC735 was a nice rig beyond my financial reach (so i bought a TS-140 and had lot's of fun).? 

?

i can email you the arrl review on the IC-735 if you wish.? 

?

my own guess at pricing --

?

a 20 amp power supply i presume ? new a bit over $100.? used still worth $ 60-70 (and a bit more if it is an Icom brand which doesn't matter that much - i use a generic Astron)

?

dummy load -- i don't know exactly - maybe $30 or more.? 

?

rig - if it is useable shape - i would say $300.? so it looks like a fair price at a quick glance.? 

?

definitely you should operate the rig, and check out the controls.? arrange for someone to give you a signal report.? try the rig on at least a couple bands.? 


i am trying to remember if this rig has a battery memory issue ?? i thought there is a malady where this rig loses its operating system - and may require being fixed at Icom?? likely there is a fix here 'before it happens - and possibly/maybe likely it is taken care of.? i can't remember if its redundant batteries or how it works.? 

?

the oldness of the rig does give me a creepy feeling not to put too much into it.? likely the power supply could be used with a new rig.? as i shared i know my old TS-140 has a couple annoyances.? at $300 it might be a 'good deal' -- hint.? then if it is used for just a few years, you have a power supply for your next rig!? 

?

and it doesn't hurt to ask some one on the new about the seller, off the net of course!? very likely indeed a ham has a good rig at a fair market price -- but do a little more homework with help from others!? 

?

73, curt

?

PS - the cheapest new rigs are around $600-700.? its getting a power supply that stretches things a bit


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From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
To: ke3fl at yahoo.com , "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:54 AM

Was on a net this morning and one of the guys has an Icom 735 he's looking
to sell. I've looked at the reviews on eham and they look pretty positive.
It looks like a nice rig and not a lot of complicated menus to fight with.
He says it's in mint condition and it comes with mic, p/s, dummy load and
manual, if I remember correctly. He said he paid about $800 for it when it
was new and he said he's looking for about $400 for it. Any thoughts on the
Rig, Good/Bad deal? 

73,

Anthony
KB3RJH

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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:52:18 +0000 (UTC)
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From, Jeff Edmondson / W3JSE,  Curt Gave You Good Advice ,But  I Will Throw My 2 Cents In Also. Suggest Starting With a 40 Meter  Inverted Vee.You Can Operate  40 / 20 / 15 Meters And Occasionally 28 Mhz . The Old Rule Of Thumb Is 468 Divided By Freq In Mhz. Thus A 40 Meter Inverted Vee Will Be Close With Each Leg Of The  Vee Wire Being 32.5 Feet For An Actual Total Of 65 Feet. Assuming The Dipole Is Center Fed With A  Feedline Coax To A 1:1 Balun At A 45 Degree Angle . Leave Your Wire A Little Longer And Adjust As Necessary. A Manufactured Balun For 1:1 Should Be Around  $26.00 Give Or Take With A Male  Connection To Couple With Your PL 259 Connector On Your  Coax Feedline   Or Perhaps Make Your Own Balun By Using 18-21 Feet Of Coax Wrapped Around A Cylindrical Form To Choke The Rf. This Would Give You A Nice 1/2 Wave Antenna. We Will Keep A Eye Out For You On A Good Used Hf Rig. Anthony 73 CUL GE SK KB3RJH DE W3JSE K
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From mellema at qis.net  Sat Feb  7 21:35:06 2009
From: mellema at qis.net (Bill Mellema)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:35:06 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
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Anthony:

Curt is giving you some very good advice....I have a SWR bridge that you
can have..glad to help.

You can give me a call and we can make arrangements for you to get it.

Welcome to the hobby..

73's

Bill N3WM
410-861-9366





Curt Milton wrote:
> Anthony
> good questions, and thankfully they are not too hard - except there is
> always a bit of 'it depends' involved.
> first, let me know if you are in need of a couple PL259's - and you
> can pay me back after you acquire some at a future hamfest.
> I suggest starting with the 50 ohm coax. But don't throw away the
> other coax as likely it will work for something!
> Ladder line is good stuff, but I would not let it hold you up. Ladder
> line does allow antennas to be used on multiple bands -- while coax
> requires a good match to work well.
> You could make a dipole for a couple bands, say 80 and 40 or 40 and 20
> -- and put them in parallel on the same piece of coax. Advantage here
> is that you won't need an antenna tuner.
> With ladder line, you could take a 80m dipole and match it on other
> bands with minimal loss, but this requires a tuner for all bands.
> Ladder line also has to be offset inches away from anything metal,
> since it guides the RF versus keeping it all inside like coax.
> Maybe you can find a ham with a SWR analyzer who can make a house call
> - but i suggest acquiring a VSWR meter because you need one anyway. I
> myself don't own a SWR analyzer, and since it costs almost as much as
> a good used rig -- I suggest surviving without one! If a dipole is cut
> just a little bit longer than the formula, and you check VSWR at both
> ends of the band, you can figure out if indeed it is too long. As you
> shorten it, just wrap it over the dipole until you are sure you don't
> need it - then you can cut the excess.
> Hams will analyze antennas for as long as they are hams! When I put up
> my first dipole in 1976, i didn't even have a vswr meter - but tube
> rigs are more forgiving here. When I put up my first station in
> Maryland, I merely hoisted up a pair of dipoles and that is how I got
> started.
> Assemble your antenna, and when you acquire a rig likely someone can
> come by and help you adjust your dipole. Maybe you can find someone
> closer than me as I live on the opposite end of Carroll Co. !
> I did do a little more research and now I am not sure the IC-735 has a
> battery-memory loss issue ??
> 73, curt
>
> --- On *Sat, 2/7/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>     Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>     To: "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>     Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:09 PM
>
>     Curt,
>
>     Ok, well looks like I have roughly around 80? of RG213 coax, 35?
>     of it still needs pl259?s installed. I also have 40-50? of what I
>     think is 75? coax, the stuff that the cable company left coiled on
>     the side of my house. It?s a really bright orange (it?s the buried
>     type). I haven?t really used that too much but it should still be
>     useable in some way in the shack, I hope?
>
>     I picked up a roll of 14 gauge stranded wire to build a dipole or
>     few for the shack. Got it at an electrical supply house and it was
>     $10 cheaper than Homey depot! Going to most likely build my own
>     insulators and the center isolator for the antenna but, was
>     wondering if I should really use coax or order ladder line? I?ve
>     been reading some articles and most are making it out like ladder
>     line is better suited to dipoles than coax with the need for a
>     balun and line loss. I don?t think I?ll be going much more than
>     100? but, my shack is on the opposite side of the house (in the
>     basement) from the back yard where the antennas will be. It?s
>     definitely cheaper than coax and I think I would have enough coax
>     for two runs to the back of the house with what I have. I would
>     have to get or build one or two of the transformers a couple of
>     the supply houses sell so that I could run ladder line out side
>     the house and coax inside the shack...
>
>     The other thing I have to get or borrow is either an antenna
>     analyzer or a swr meter to get the dipole resonant on freq. Not
>     sure which I want or need to do yet. I assume the swr meter would
>     be the best/cheapest bet for my budget unless someone in the club
>     has an analyzer to use.
>
>     What?s your experience been or am I analyzing this too much? I
>     really just want to get on the air without taking a long time to
>     get the perfect situation that will eventually get frustrating for
>     me. The antenna is the most important part, I know, but not having
>     a radio won?t do the antenna in the air any good at all.. The
>     waiting is the hardest part!
>
>     Anthony
>
>     KB3RJH
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:39 AM
>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
>     Definitely start work on your antenna - and see how far the coax
>     you have reaches.
>
>     Generally at a hamfest there is no opportunity to power up a rig,
>     unless seller brought a battery and mobile antenna. Your best
>     opportunity is likely a sale 'from a home.' But you never know!
>
>     I do like the way older rigs have their controls laid out - plus
>
>     The controls on a rig age more than the electronics -- its the
>     only minor maladies my TS-140 has! That is why I wonder if other
>     20-year old rigs have the same issue. My power supply model is
>     Astron RS-20A (since i can see it from here!) - its an old
>     fashioned linear supply - black box with switch on front, fuse in
>     back along with terminals. After 20 years it powers my modern rig.
>
>     (i did buy a little 7amp astron at a hamfest -- when i plugged it
>     in it smoked! the overvoltage protection thingey was what smoked.
>     i cut it out, and the think works ... i use it only on the test
>     bench since 7 amps doesn't power anything above say 20 watts!
>
>     I don't have broadband at home, but if you need QST reviews of
>     particular rigs I can download them and email at work.
>
>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>         Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>         To: "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 11:04 AM
>
>         Thanks for the reply Curt, that?s what I was leaning towards.
>         I am still looking though and he just mentioned it to me after
>         I said I needed to get a HF rig now that I have my General
>         ticket but, I am going to try out as many Rigs as I can before
>         settling on anything specific. I really want to wait till the
>         Timonium fest to see what?s going to be there. Don?t want to
>         rush into anything before I go over every possibility. I?ve
>         generally been the impulse purchase guy and I?m trying to
>         change that so I?m not disappointed and frustrated with
>         something I didn?t put much thought into. Still have put
>         something up antenna-wise and probably need some more coax
>         too. So much to consider...
>
>         73
>
>     Anthony
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:39 AM
>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
>     Anthony
>
>     let's see if I can give you a little info. when i bought my first
>     'modern' rig in 1989 the IC735 was a nice rig beyond my financial
>     reach (so i bought a TS-140 and had lot's of fun).
>
>     i can email you the arrl review on the IC-735 if you wish.
>
>     my own guess at pricing --
>
>     a 20 amp power supply i presume ? new a bit over $100. used still
>     worth $ 60-70 (and a bit more if it is an Icom brand which doesn't
>     matter that much - i use a generic Astron)
>
>     dummy load -- i don't know exactly - maybe $30 or more.
>
>     rig - if it is useable shape - i would say $300. so it looks like
>     a fair price at a quick glance.
>
>     definitely you should operate the rig, and check out the controls.
>     arrange for someone to give you a signal report. try the rig on at
>     least a couple bands.
>
>
>     i am trying to remember if this rig has a battery memory issue ? i
>     thought there is a malady where this rig loses its operating
>     system - and may require being fixed at Icom? likely there is a
>     fix here 'before it happens - and possibly/maybe likely it is
>     taken care of. i can't remember if its redundant batteries or how
>     it works.
>
>     the oldness of the rig does give me a creepy feeling not to put
>     too much into it. likely the power supply could be used with a new
>     rig. as i shared i know my old TS-140 has a couple annoyances. at
>     $300 it might be a 'good deal' -- hint. then if it is used for
>     just a few years, you have a power supply for your next rig!
>
>     and it doesn't hurt to ask some one on the new about the seller,
>     off the net of course! very likely indeed a ham has a good rig at
>     a fair market price -- but do a little more homework with help
>     from others!
>
>     73, curt
>
>     PS - the cheapest new rigs are around $600-700. its getting a
>     power supply that stretches things a bit
>
>
>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>         Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>         To: ke3fl at yahoo.com , "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:54 AM
>
>     Was on a net this morning and one of the guys has an Icom 735 he's
>     looking
>     to sell. I've looked at the reviews on eham and they look pretty
>     positive.
>     It looks like a nice rig and not a lot of complicated menus to
>     fight with.
>     He says it's in mint condition and it comes with mic, p/s, dummy
>     load and
>     manual, if I remember correctly. He said he paid about $800 for it
>     when it
>     was new and he said he's looking for about $400 for it. Any
>     thoughts on the
>     Rig, Good/Bad deal?
>
>     73,
>
>     Anthony
>     KB3RJH
>
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From comulada at verizon.net  Sat Feb  7 21:40:21 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:40:21 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Wire Antenna
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Thanks Jeff,

 

I've been ramping up trying to keep busy until I get enough to spend on a HF
rig but until then I'm doing everything else to get ready for it. I have a
28' mast that I'll be using to put up a dipole. I can put up a 40 meter
dipole between the mast and the trees on the other side of my lot about that
high. The dipole would be radiating (if I'm correct) in an east to west
direction since the wire points north to south. I also need to get another
guy ring so I can tie the mast down @ the top as well as in the middle too
and hopefully get a pulley for the top of the mast to make raising and
lowering the antenna easier.  I have a top hat for it but, it's plastic and
I'm not sure how durable it is. I also plan on eventually putting my 5
element 2 meter beam up there as well with a light duty rotator. The mast
should be able to handle that with the proper guying. I've been told the
aluminum masts can withstand 90mph sustained winds but that will go down
with the rotator and beam on it I'm sure. I ultimately want to take the mast
up to 45-50' by anchoring it to the house and guying. Then I should be able
to get the other side of the dipole up over top of the tallest beach tree in
the back yard which is at least 40' tall. That will get it over the houses
and obstructions won't interfere so much. I just have to make sure the
antenna is tuned so I'm not on the edge of the roof trimming wires. 

 

I've been looking all over the net for one but, everything on eham or qrz is
either above my budget, sold or doesn't look worth buying and all the rigs
worth buying on eBay have 15 people bidding on them already, I'm really not
interested in buying from eBay anyway, too many crooks and I really don't
want to get burned by someone I most likely won't be able to contact again!
S'ok though, I (in all reality) have time on my hands and I'm just trying
not to rush into a bad deal...

 

 

  _____  

From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
seadog2400 at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 6:52 PM
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Subject: [K3PZN-List] Wire Antenna

 

From, Jeff Edmondson / W3JSE,  Curt Gave You Good Advice ,But  I Will Throw
My 2 Cents In Also. Suggest Starting With a 40 Meter  Inverted Vee.You Can
Operate  40 / 20 / 15 Meters And Occasionally 28 Mhz . The Old Rule Of Thumb
Is 468 Divided By Freq In Mhz. Thus A 40 Meter Inverted Vee Will Be Close
With Each Leg Of The  Vee Wire Being 32.5 Feet For An Actual Total Of 65
Feet. Assuming The Dipole Is Center Fed With A  Feedline Coax To A 1:1 Balun
At A 45 Degree Angle . Leave Your Wire A Little Longer And Adjust As
Necessary. A Manufactured Balun For 1:1 Should Be Around  $26.00 Give Or
Take With A Male  Connection To Couple With Your PL 259 Connector On Your
Coax Feedline   Or Perhaps Make Your Own Balun By Using 18-21 Feet Of Coax
Wrapped Around A Cylindrical Form To Choke The Rf. This Would Give You A
Nice 1/2 Wave Antenna. We Will Keep A Eye Out For You On A Good Used Hf Rig.
Anthony 73 CUL GE SK KB3RJH DE W3JSE K

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From comulada at verizon.net  Sat Feb  7 21:47:15 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:47:15 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
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Wow! Thanks Bill, if possible, as long as you are going to the meeting
tomorrow (it is tomorrow, right?!?)? I'm 90% sure I'll be there so, just
bring it with and I'll take it then. I'm sure glad that I'm getting the
help I was looking for. Curt and Jeff have been very helpful with this so
far and my hat's off to them!

73 

Anthony
KB3RJH 

-----Original Message-----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Mellema
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:35 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...

Anthony:

Curt is giving you some very good advice....I have a SWR bridge that you
can have..glad to help.

You can give me a call and we can make arrangements for you to get it.

Welcome to the hobby..

73's

Bill N3WM
410-861-9366





Curt Milton wrote:
> Anthony
> good questions, and thankfully they are not too hard - except there is
> always a bit of 'it depends' involved.
> first, let me know if you are in need of a couple PL259's - and you
> can pay me back after you acquire some at a future hamfest.
> I suggest starting with the 50 ohm coax. But don't throw away the
> other coax as likely it will work for something!
> Ladder line is good stuff, but I would not let it hold you up. Ladder
> line does allow antennas to be used on multiple bands -- while coax
> requires a good match to work well.
> You could make a dipole for a couple bands, say 80 and 40 or 40 and 20
> -- and put them in parallel on the same piece of coax. Advantage here
> is that you won't need an antenna tuner.
> With ladder line, you could take a 80m dipole and match it on other
> bands with minimal loss, but this requires a tuner for all bands.
> Ladder line also has to be offset inches away from anything metal,
> since it guides the RF versus keeping it all inside like coax.
> Maybe you can find a ham with a SWR analyzer who can make a house call
> - but i suggest acquiring a VSWR meter because you need one anyway. I
> myself don't own a SWR analyzer, and since it costs almost as much as
> a good used rig -- I suggest surviving without one! If a dipole is cut
> just a little bit longer than the formula, and you check VSWR at both
> ends of the band, you can figure out if indeed it is too long. As you
> shorten it, just wrap it over the dipole until you are sure you don't
> need it - then you can cut the excess.
> Hams will analyze antennas for as long as they are hams! When I put up
> my first dipole in 1976, i didn't even have a vswr meter - but tube
> rigs are more forgiving here. When I put up my first station in
> Maryland, I merely hoisted up a pair of dipoles and that is how I got
> started.
> Assemble your antenna, and when you acquire a rig likely someone can
> come by and help you adjust your dipole. Maybe you can find someone
> closer than me as I live on the opposite end of Carroll Co. !
> I did do a little more research and now I am not sure the IC-735 has a
> battery-memory loss issue ??
> 73, curt
>
> --- On *Sat, 2/7/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>     Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>     To: "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>     Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:09 PM
>
>     Curt,
>
>     Ok, well looks like I have roughly around 80? of RG213 coax, 35?
>     of it still needs pl259?s installed. I also have 40-50? of what I
>     think is 75? coax, the stuff that the cable company left coiled on
>     the side of my house. It?s a really bright orange (it?s the buried
>     type). I haven?t really used that too much but it should still be
>     useable in some way in the shack, I hope?
>
>     I picked up a roll of 14 gauge stranded wire to build a dipole or
>     few for the shack. Got it at an electrical supply house and it was
>     $10 cheaper than Homey depot! Going to most likely build my own
>     insulators and the center isolator for the antenna but, was
>     wondering if I should really use coax or order ladder line? I?ve
>     been reading some articles and most are making it out like ladder
>     line is better suited to dipoles than coax with the need for a
>     balun and line loss. I don?t think I?ll be going much more than
>     100? but, my shack is on the opposite side of the house (in the
>     basement) from the back yard where the antennas will be. It?s
>     definitely cheaper than coax and I think I would have enough coax
>     for two runs to the back of the house with what I have. I would
>     have to get or build one or two of the transformers a couple of
>     the supply houses sell so that I could run ladder line out side
>     the house and coax inside the shack...
>
>     The other thing I have to get or borrow is either an antenna
>     analyzer or a swr meter to get the dipole resonant on freq. Not
>     sure which I want or need to do yet. I assume the swr meter would
>     be the best/cheapest bet for my budget unless someone in the club
>     has an analyzer to use.
>
>     What?s your experience been or am I analyzing this too much? I
>     really just want to get on the air without taking a long time to
>     get the perfect situation that will eventually get frustrating for
>     me. The antenna is the most important part, I know, but not having
>     a radio won?t do the antenna in the air any good at all.. The
>     waiting is the hardest part!
>
>     Anthony
>
>     KB3RJH
>
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:39 AM
>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
>     Definitely start work on your antenna - and see how far the coax
>     you have reaches.
>
>     Generally at a hamfest there is no opportunity to power up a rig,
>     unless seller brought a battery and mobile antenna. Your best
>     opportunity is likely a sale 'from a home.' But you never know!
>
>     I do like the way older rigs have their controls laid out - plus
>
>     The controls on a rig age more than the electronics -- its the
>     only minor maladies my TS-140 has! That is why I wonder if other
>     20-year old rigs have the same issue. My power supply model is
>     Astron RS-20A (since i can see it from here!) - its an old
>     fashioned linear supply - black box with switch on front, fuse in
>     back along with terminals. After 20 years it powers my modern rig.
>
>     (i did buy a little 7amp astron at a hamfest -- when i plugged it
>     in it smoked! the overvoltage protection thingey was what smoked.
>     i cut it out, and the think works ... i use it only on the test
>     bench since 7 amps doesn't power anything above say 20 watts!
>
>     I don't have broadband at home, but if you need QST reviews of
>     particular rigs I can download them and email at work.
>
>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>         Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>         To: "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 11:04 AM
>
>         Thanks for the reply Curt, that?s what I was leaning towards.
>         I am still looking though and he just mentioned it to me after
>         I said I needed to get a HF rig now that I have my General
>         ticket but, I am going to try out as many Rigs as I can before
>         settling on anything specific. I really want to wait till the
>         Timonium fest to see what?s going to be there. Don?t want to
>         rush into anything before I go over every possibility. I?ve
>         generally been the impulse purchase guy and I?m trying to
>         change that so I?m not disappointed and frustrated with
>         something I didn?t put much thought into. Still have put
>         something up antenna-wise and probably need some more coax
>         too. So much to consider...
>
>         73
>
>     Anthony
>
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:39 AM
>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
>     Anthony
>
>     let's see if I can give you a little info. when i bought my first
>     'modern' rig in 1989 the IC735 was a nice rig beyond my financial
>     reach (so i bought a TS-140 and had lot's of fun).
>
>     i can email you the arrl review on the IC-735 if you wish.
>
>     my own guess at pricing --
>
>     a 20 amp power supply i presume ? new a bit over $100. used still
>     worth $ 60-70 (and a bit more if it is an Icom brand which doesn't
>     matter that much - i use a generic Astron)
>
>     dummy load -- i don't know exactly - maybe $30 or more.
>
>     rig - if it is useable shape - i would say $300. so it looks like
>     a fair price at a quick glance.
>
>     definitely you should operate the rig, and check out the controls.
>     arrange for someone to give you a signal report. try the rig on at
>     least a couple bands.
>
>
>     i am trying to remember if this rig has a battery memory issue ? i
>     thought there is a malady where this rig loses its operating
>     system - and may require being fixed at Icom? likely there is a
>     fix here 'before it happens - and possibly/maybe likely it is
>     taken care of. i can't remember if its redundant batteries or how
>     it works.
>
>     the oldness of the rig does give me a creepy feeling not to put
>     too much into it. likely the power supply could be used with a new
>     rig. as i shared i know my old TS-140 has a couple annoyances. at
>     $300 it might be a 'good deal' -- hint. then if it is used for
>     just a few years, you have a power supply for your next rig!
>
>     and it doesn't hurt to ask some one on the new about the seller,
>     off the net of course! very likely indeed a ham has a good rig at
>     a fair market price -- but do a little more homework with help
>     from others!
>
>     73, curt
>
>     PS - the cheapest new rigs are around $600-700. its getting a
>     power supply that stretches things a bit
>
>
>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>         Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>         To: ke3fl at yahoo.com , "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:54 AM
>
>     Was on a net this morning and one of the guys has an Icom 735 he's
>     looking
>     to sell. I've looked at the reviews on eham and they look pretty
>     positive.
>     It looks like a nice rig and not a lot of complicated menus to
>     fight with.
>     He says it's in mint condition and it comes with mic, p/s, dummy
>     load and
>     manual, if I remember correctly. He said he paid about $800 for it
>     when it
>     was new and he said he's looking for about $400 for it. Any
>     thoughts on the
>     Rig, Good/Bad deal?
>
>     73,
>
>     Anthony
>     KB3RJH
>
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From mellema at qis.net  Sun Feb  8 11:43:08 2009
From: mellema at qis.net (Bill Mellema)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:43:08 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
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Anthony


Very good...see ya at the meeting...


Bill N3WM

ARC wrote:
> Wow! Thanks Bill, if possible, as long as you are going to the meeting
> tomorrow (it is tomorrow, right?!?)? I'm 90% sure I'll be there so, just
> bring it with and I'll take it then. I'm sure glad that I'm getting the
> help I was looking for. Curt and Jeff have been very helpful with this so
> far and my hat's off to them!
>
> 73 
>
> Anthony
> KB3RJH 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
> qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Mellema
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:35 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
> Anthony:
>
> Curt is giving you some very good advice....I have a SWR bridge that you
> can have..glad to help.
>
> You can give me a call and we can make arrangements for you to get it.
>
> Welcome to the hobby..
>
> 73's
>
> Bill N3WM
> 410-861-9366
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt Milton wrote:
>   
>> Anthony
>> good questions, and thankfully they are not too hard - except there is
>> always a bit of 'it depends' involved.
>> first, let me know if you are in need of a couple PL259's - and you
>> can pay me back after you acquire some at a future hamfest.
>> I suggest starting with the 50 ohm coax. But don't throw away the
>> other coax as likely it will work for something!
>> Ladder line is good stuff, but I would not let it hold you up. Ladder
>> line does allow antennas to be used on multiple bands -- while coax
>> requires a good match to work well.
>> You could make a dipole for a couple bands, say 80 and 40 or 40 and 20
>> -- and put them in parallel on the same piece of coax. Advantage here
>> is that you won't need an antenna tuner.
>> With ladder line, you could take a 80m dipole and match it on other
>> bands with minimal loss, but this requires a tuner for all bands.
>> Ladder line also has to be offset inches away from anything metal,
>> since it guides the RF versus keeping it all inside like coax.
>> Maybe you can find a ham with a SWR analyzer who can make a house call
>> - but i suggest acquiring a VSWR meter because you need one anyway. I
>> myself don't own a SWR analyzer, and since it costs almost as much as
>> a good used rig -- I suggest surviving without one! If a dipole is cut
>> just a little bit longer than the formula, and you check VSWR at both
>> ends of the band, you can figure out if indeed it is too long. As you
>> shorten it, just wrap it over the dipole until you are sure you don't
>> need it - then you can cut the excess.
>> Hams will analyze antennas for as long as they are hams! When I put up
>> my first dipole in 1976, i didn't even have a vswr meter - but tube
>> rigs are more forgiving here. When I put up my first station in
>> Maryland, I merely hoisted up a pair of dipoles and that is how I got
>> started.
>> Assemble your antenna, and when you acquire a rig likely someone can
>> come by and help you adjust your dipole. Maybe you can find someone
>> closer than me as I live on the opposite end of Carroll Co. !
>> I did do a little more research and now I am not sure the IC-735 has a
>> battery-memory loss issue ??
>> 73, curt
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 2/7/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>>     Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>     To: "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>     Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:09 PM
>>
>>     Curt,
>>
>>     Ok, well looks like I have roughly around 80? of RG213 coax, 35?
>>     of it still needs pl259?s installed. I also have 40-50? of what I
>>     think is 75? coax, the stuff that the cable company left coiled on
>>     the side of my house. It?s a really bright orange (it?s the buried
>>     type). I haven?t really used that too much but it should still be
>>     useable in some way in the shack, I hope?
>>
>>     I picked up a roll of 14 gauge stranded wire to build a dipole or
>>     few for the shack. Got it at an electrical supply house and it was
>>     $10 cheaper than Homey depot! Going to most likely build my own
>>     insulators and the center isolator for the antenna but, was
>>     wondering if I should really use coax or order ladder line? I?ve
>>     been reading some articles and most are making it out like ladder
>>     line is better suited to dipoles than coax with the need for a
>>     balun and line loss. I don?t think I?ll be going much more than
>>     100? but, my shack is on the opposite side of the house (in the
>>     basement) from the back yard where the antennas will be. It?s
>>     definitely cheaper than coax and I think I would have enough coax
>>     for two runs to the back of the house with what I have. I would
>>     have to get or build one or two of the transformers a couple of
>>     the supply houses sell so that I could run ladder line out side
>>     the house and coax inside the shack...
>>
>>     The other thing I have to get or borrow is either an antenna
>>     analyzer or a swr meter to get the dipole resonant on freq. Not
>>     sure which I want or need to do yet. I assume the swr meter would
>>     be the best/cheapest bet for my budget unless someone in the club
>>     has an analyzer to use.
>>
>>     What?s your experience been or am I analyzing this too much? I
>>     really just want to get on the air without taking a long time to
>>     get the perfect situation that will eventually get frustrating for
>>     me. The antenna is the most important part, I know, but not having
>>     a radio won?t do the antenna in the air any good at all.. The
>>     waiting is the hardest part!
>>
>>     Anthony
>>
>>     KB3RJH
>>
>>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
> --
>   
>>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:39 AM
>>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>
>>     Definitely start work on your antenna - and see how far the coax
>>     you have reaches.
>>
>>     Generally at a hamfest there is no opportunity to power up a rig,
>>     unless seller brought a battery and mobile antenna. Your best
>>     opportunity is likely a sale 'from a home.' But you never know!
>>
>>     I do like the way older rigs have their controls laid out - plus
>>
>>     The controls on a rig age more than the electronics -- its the
>>     only minor maladies my TS-140 has! That is why I wonder if other
>>     20-year old rigs have the same issue. My power supply model is
>>     Astron RS-20A (since i can see it from here!) - its an old
>>     fashioned linear supply - black box with switch on front, fuse in
>>     back along with terminals. After 20 years it powers my modern rig.
>>
>>     (i did buy a little 7amp astron at a hamfest -- when i plugged it
>>     in it smoked! the overvoltage protection thingey was what smoked.
>>     i cut it out, and the think works ... i use it only on the test
>>     bench since 7 amps doesn't power anything above say 20 watts!
>>
>>     I don't have broadband at home, but if you need QST reviews of
>>     particular rigs I can download them and email at work.
>>
>>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>>         Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>         To: "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 11:04 AM
>>
>>         Thanks for the reply Curt, that?s what I was leaning towards.
>>         I am still looking though and he just mentioned it to me after
>>         I said I needed to get a HF rig now that I have my General
>>         ticket but, I am going to try out as many Rigs as I can before
>>         settling on anything specific. I really want to wait till the
>>         Timonium fest to see what?s going to be there. Don?t want to
>>         rush into anything before I go over every possibility. I?ve
>>         generally been the impulse purchase guy and I?m trying to
>>         change that so I?m not disappointed and frustrated with
>>         something I didn?t put much thought into. Still have put
>>         something up antenna-wise and probably need some more coax
>>         too. So much to consider...
>>
>>         73
>>
>>     Anthony
>>
>>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
> --
>   
>>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:39 AM
>>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>
>>     Anthony
>>
>>     let's see if I can give you a little info. when i bought my first
>>     'modern' rig in 1989 the IC735 was a nice rig beyond my financial
>>     reach (so i bought a TS-140 and had lot's of fun).
>>
>>     i can email you the arrl review on the IC-735 if you wish.
>>
>>     my own guess at pricing --
>>
>>     a 20 amp power supply i presume ? new a bit over $100. used still
>>     worth $ 60-70 (and a bit more if it is an Icom brand which doesn't
>>     matter that much - i use a generic Astron)
>>
>>     dummy load -- i don't know exactly - maybe $30 or more.
>>
>>     rig - if it is useable shape - i would say $300. so it looks like
>>     a fair price at a quick glance.
>>
>>     definitely you should operate the rig, and check out the controls.
>>     arrange for someone to give you a signal report. try the rig on at
>>     least a couple bands.
>>
>>
>>     i am trying to remember if this rig has a battery memory issue ? i
>>     thought there is a malady where this rig loses its operating
>>     system - and may require being fixed at Icom? likely there is a
>>     fix here 'before it happens - and possibly/maybe likely it is
>>     taken care of. i can't remember if its redundant batteries or how
>>     it works.
>>
>>     the oldness of the rig does give me a creepy feeling not to put
>>     too much into it. likely the power supply could be used with a new
>>     rig. as i shared i know my old TS-140 has a couple annoyances. at
>>     $300 it might be a 'good deal' -- hint. then if it is used for
>>     just a few years, you have a power supply for your next rig!
>>
>>     and it doesn't hurt to ask some one on the new about the seller,
>>     off the net of course! very likely indeed a ham has a good rig at
>>     a fair market price -- but do a little more homework with help
>>     from others!
>>
>>     73, curt
>>
>>     PS - the cheapest new rigs are around $600-700. its getting a
>>     power supply that stretches things a bit
>>
>>
>>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>>         Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>         To: ke3fl at yahoo.com , "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:54 AM
>>
>>     Was on a net this morning and one of the guys has an Icom 735 he's
>>     looking
>>     to sell. I've looked at the reviews on eham and they look pretty
>>     positive.
>>     It looks like a nice rig and not a lot of complicated menus to
>>     fight with.
>>     He says it's in mint condition and it comes with mic, p/s, dummy
>>     load and
>>     manual, if I remember correctly. He said he paid about $800 for it
>>     when it
>>     was new and he said he's looking for about $400 for it. Any
>>     thoughts on the
>>     Rig, Good/Bad deal?
>>
>>     73,
>>
>>     Anthony
>>     KB3RJH
>>
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From mellema at qis.net  Sun Feb  8 12:27:06 2009
From: mellema at qis.net (Bill Mellema)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:27:06 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
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Anthony:

I dug out the SWR Meter and discovered it is designed for CB operation
and will only handle up to 10 Watts. . I checked it out and it just
won't handle higher power.

I think someone mentioned to you that SWR bridges are cheap enough on
the used market, you'll just have to keep your eyes open.,


73's

Bill N3WM








ARC wrote:
> Wow! Thanks Bill, if possible, as long as you are going to the meeting
> tomorrow (it is tomorrow, right?!?)? I'm 90% sure I'll be there so, just
> bring it with and I'll take it then. I'm sure glad that I'm getting the
> help I was looking for. Curt and Jeff have been very helpful with this so
> far and my hat's off to them!
>
> 73 
>
> Anthony
> KB3RJH 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
> qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Mellema
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:35 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
> Anthony:
>
> Curt is giving you some very good advice....I have a SWR bridge that you
> can have..glad to help.
>
> You can give me a call and we can make arrangements for you to get it.
>
> Welcome to the hobby..
>
> 73's
>
> Bill N3WM
> 410-861-9366
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt Milton wrote:
>   
>> Anthony
>> good questions, and thankfully they are not too hard - except there is
>> always a bit of 'it depends' involved.
>> first, let me know if you are in need of a couple PL259's - and you
>> can pay me back after you acquire some at a future hamfest.
>> I suggest starting with the 50 ohm coax. But don't throw away the
>> other coax as likely it will work for something!
>> Ladder line is good stuff, but I would not let it hold you up. Ladder
>> line does allow antennas to be used on multiple bands -- while coax
>> requires a good match to work well.
>> You could make a dipole for a couple bands, say 80 and 40 or 40 and 20
>> -- and put them in parallel on the same piece of coax. Advantage here
>> is that you won't need an antenna tuner.
>> With ladder line, you could take a 80m dipole and match it on other
>> bands with minimal loss, but this requires a tuner for all bands.
>> Ladder line also has to be offset inches away from anything metal,
>> since it guides the RF versus keeping it all inside like coax.
>> Maybe you can find a ham with a SWR analyzer who can make a house call
>> - but i suggest acquiring a VSWR meter because you need one anyway. I
>> myself don't own a SWR analyzer, and since it costs almost as much as
>> a good used rig -- I suggest surviving without one! If a dipole is cut
>> just a little bit longer than the formula, and you check VSWR at both
>> ends of the band, you can figure out if indeed it is too long. As you
>> shorten it, just wrap it over the dipole until you are sure you don't
>> need it - then you can cut the excess.
>> Hams will analyze antennas for as long as they are hams! When I put up
>> my first dipole in 1976, i didn't even have a vswr meter - but tube
>> rigs are more forgiving here. When I put up my first station in
>> Maryland, I merely hoisted up a pair of dipoles and that is how I got
>> started.
>> Assemble your antenna, and when you acquire a rig likely someone can
>> come by and help you adjust your dipole. Maybe you can find someone
>> closer than me as I live on the opposite end of Carroll Co. !
>> I did do a little more research and now I am not sure the IC-735 has a
>> battery-memory loss issue ??
>> 73, curt
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 2/7/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>>     Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>     To: "'Carroll County Amateur Radio Club'" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>     Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:09 PM
>>
>>     Curt,
>>
>>     Ok, well looks like I have roughly around 80? of RG213 coax, 35?
>>     of it still needs pl259?s installed. I also have 40-50? of what I
>>     think is 75? coax, the stuff that the cable company left coiled on
>>     the side of my house. It?s a really bright orange (it?s the buried
>>     type). I haven?t really used that too much but it should still be
>>     useable in some way in the shack, I hope?
>>
>>     I picked up a roll of 14 gauge stranded wire to build a dipole or
>>     few for the shack. Got it at an electrical supply house and it was
>>     $10 cheaper than Homey depot! Going to most likely build my own
>>     insulators and the center isolator for the antenna but, was
>>     wondering if I should really use coax or order ladder line? I?ve
>>     been reading some articles and most are making it out like ladder
>>     line is better suited to dipoles than coax with the need for a
>>     balun and line loss. I don?t think I?ll be going much more than
>>     100? but, my shack is on the opposite side of the house (in the
>>     basement) from the back yard where the antennas will be. It?s
>>     definitely cheaper than coax and I think I would have enough coax
>>     for two runs to the back of the house with what I have. I would
>>     have to get or build one or two of the transformers a couple of
>>     the supply houses sell so that I could run ladder line out side
>>     the house and coax inside the shack...
>>
>>     The other thing I have to get or borrow is either an antenna
>>     analyzer or a swr meter to get the dipole resonant on freq. Not
>>     sure which I want or need to do yet. I assume the swr meter would
>>     be the best/cheapest bet for my budget unless someone in the club
>>     has an analyzer to use.
>>
>>     What?s your experience been or am I analyzing this too much? I
>>     really just want to get on the air without taking a long time to
>>     get the perfect situation that will eventually get frustrating for
>>     me. The antenna is the most important part, I know, but not having
>>     a radio won?t do the antenna in the air any good at all.. The
>>     waiting is the hardest part!
>>
>>     Anthony
>>
>>     KB3RJH
>>
>>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
> --
>   
>>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:39 AM
>>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>
>>     Definitely start work on your antenna - and see how far the coax
>>     you have reaches.
>>
>>     Generally at a hamfest there is no opportunity to power up a rig,
>>     unless seller brought a battery and mobile antenna. Your best
>>     opportunity is likely a sale 'from a home.' But you never know!
>>
>>     I do like the way older rigs have their controls laid out - plus
>>
>>     The controls on a rig age more than the electronics -- its the
>>     only minor maladies my TS-140 has! That is why I wonder if other
>>     20-year old rigs have the same issue. My power supply model is
>>     Astron RS-20A (since i can see it from here!) - its an old
>>     fashioned linear supply - black box with switch on front, fuse in
>>     back along with terminals. After 20 years it powers my modern rig.
>>
>>     (i did buy a little 7amp astron at a hamfest -- when i plugged it
>>     in it smoked! the overvoltage protection thingey was what smoked.
>>     i cut it out, and the think works ... i use it only on the test
>>     bench since 7 amps doesn't power anything above say 20 watts!
>>
>>     I don't have broadband at home, but if you need QST reviews of
>>     particular rigs I can download them and email at work.
>>
>>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>>         Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>         To: "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 11:04 AM
>>
>>         Thanks for the reply Curt, that?s what I was leaning towards.
>>         I am still looking though and he just mentioned it to me after
>>         I said I needed to get a HF rig now that I have my General
>>         ticket but, I am going to try out as many Rigs as I can before
>>         settling on anything specific. I really want to wait till the
>>         Timonium fest to see what?s going to be there. Don?t want to
>>         rush into anything before I go over every possibility. I?ve
>>         generally been the impulse purchase guy and I?m trying to
>>         change that so I?m not disappointed and frustrated with
>>         something I didn?t put much thought into. Still have put
>>         something up antenna-wise and probably need some more coax
>>         too. So much to consider...
>>
>>         73
>>
>>     Anthony
>>
>>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     
> --
>   
>>     *From:* k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>     [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Curt Milton
>>     *Sent:* Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:39 AM
>>     *To:* Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
>>     *Subject:* Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>
>>     Anthony
>>
>>     let's see if I can give you a little info. when i bought my first
>>     'modern' rig in 1989 the IC735 was a nice rig beyond my financial
>>     reach (so i bought a TS-140 and had lot's of fun).
>>
>>     i can email you the arrl review on the IC-735 if you wish.
>>
>>     my own guess at pricing --
>>
>>     a 20 amp power supply i presume ? new a bit over $100. used still
>>     worth $ 60-70 (and a bit more if it is an Icom brand which doesn't
>>     matter that much - i use a generic Astron)
>>
>>     dummy load -- i don't know exactly - maybe $30 or more.
>>
>>     rig - if it is useable shape - i would say $300. so it looks like
>>     a fair price at a quick glance.
>>
>>     definitely you should operate the rig, and check out the controls.
>>     arrange for someone to give you a signal report. try the rig on at
>>     least a couple bands.
>>
>>
>>     i am trying to remember if this rig has a battery memory issue ? i
>>     thought there is a malady where this rig loses its operating
>>     system - and may require being fixed at Icom? likely there is a
>>     fix here 'before it happens - and possibly/maybe likely it is
>>     taken care of. i can't remember if its redundant batteries or how
>>     it works.
>>
>>     the oldness of the rig does give me a creepy feeling not to put
>>     too much into it. likely the power supply could be used with a new
>>     rig. as i shared i know my old TS-140 has a couple annoyances. at
>>     $300 it might be a 'good deal' -- hint. then if it is used for
>>     just a few years, you have a power supply for your next rig!
>>
>>     and it doesn't hurt to ask some one on the new about the seller,
>>     off the net of course! very likely indeed a ham has a good rig at
>>     a fair market price -- but do a little more homework with help
>>     from others!
>>
>>     73, curt
>>
>>     PS - the cheapest new rigs are around $600-700. its getting a
>>     power supply that stretches things a bit
>>
>>
>>     --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, ARC /<comulada at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: ARC <comulada at verizon.net>
>>         Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>>         To: ke3fl at yahoo.com , "' Carroll County Amateur Radio Club '"
>>         <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
>>         Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:54 AM
>>
>>     Was on a net this morning and one of the guys has an Icom 735 he's
>>     looking
>>     to sell. I've looked at the reviews on eham and they look pretty
>>     positive.
>>     It looks like a nice rig and not a lot of complicated menus to
>>     fight with.
>>     He says it's in mint condition and it comes with mic, p/s, dummy
>>     load and
>>     manual, if I remember correctly. He said he paid about $800 for it
>>     when it
>>     was new and he said he's looking for about $400 for it. Any
>>     thoughts on the
>>     Rig, Good/Bad deal?
>>
>>     73,
>>
>>     Anthony
>>     




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From comulada at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 12:57:29 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (A Comulada)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:57:29 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
Message-ID: <0KER00LVXDT17OO0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>

No problem, I actually have one for CB but it is in bad shape. Thanks for the thought anyway...

73

Anthony
KB3RJH


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Mellema <mellema at qis.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:27 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...

Anthony:

I dug out the SWR Meter and discovered it is designed for CB operation
and will only handle up to 10 Watts. . I checked it out and it just
won't handle higher power.

I think someone mentioned to you that SWR bridges are cheap enough on
the used market, you'll just have to keep your eyes open.,


73's

Bill N3WM








ARC wrote:
> Wow! Thanks Bill, if possible, as long as you are going to the meeting
> tomorrow (it is tomorrow, right?!?)? I'm 90% sure I'll be there so, just
> bring it with and I'll take it then. I'm sure glad that I'm getting the
> help I was looking for. Curt and Jeff have been very helpful with this so
> far and my hat's off to them!
>
> 73 
>
> Anthony
> KB3RJH 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.
> qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Mellema
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:35 PM
> To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
>
> Anthony:
>
> Curt is giving you some very good advice....I have a SWR bridge that you
> can have..glad to help.
>
> You can give me a call and we can make arrangements for you to get it.
>
> Welcome to the hobby..
>
> 73's
>
> Bill N3WM
> 410-861-9366
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt Milton wrote:
>   
>> Anthony
>> good questions, and thankfully they are not too hard - except there is
>> always a bit of 'it depends' involved.
>> first, let me know if you are in need of a couple PL259's - and you
>> can pa

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From j.f.tracey at verizon.net  Sun Feb  8 15:39:49 2009
From: j.f.tracey at verizon.net (Joe Tracey)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:39:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Club Project Ideas - Follow-up
Message-ID: <19143935.225304.1234125589184.JavaMail.root@vms070.mailsrvcs.net>

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From n3ii at hotmail.com  Sun Feb  8 17:25:32 2009
From: n3ii at hotmail.com (Dave Blanchard)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:25:32 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] HF Rig
Message-ID: <BAY139-DS49492B12BB3B757F322CD92BF0@phx.gbl>

I have an Icom  IC-751A available for $380 if anyone is interested

              Dave 

From comulada at verizon.net  Mon Feb  9 07:43:03 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:43:03 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
In-Reply-To: <662371.54528.qm@web53912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <662371.54528.qm@web53912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F492931A352D4A1A9462B5F0331D877D@hal9000>

Found someone who is freecycling 32 12v 12ah batteries. Not sure if they are
any good but, if they are, would these be useable for any club projects or
some tied together for backup power? I sent a note inquiring but haven't
gotten a reply back yet...

 

73

 

Anthony

KB3RJH 

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From kb3jqq at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  9 18:31:41 2009
From: kb3jqq at yahoo.com (Scott, KB3JQQ)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Icom 735 opinions...
In-Reply-To: <F492931A352D4A1A9462B5F0331D877D@hal9000>
Message-ID: <824299.22106.qm@web33506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Found someone who is freecycling 32 12v 12ah batteries. Not
> sure if they are
> any good but, if they are, would these be useable for any
> club projects or
> some tied together for backup power? I sent a note
> inquiring but haven't
> gotten a reply back yet...


Those are rather small but if you parallel them you can get
a quite a bit of reserve power. Don't skimp on wire size for
12 volt applications. It only takes a small bit of resistance
to limit the current available and that spot will heat up quick!


      

From n3sb at qis.net  Tue Feb 10 11:41:53 2009
From: n3sb at qis.net (n3sb at qis.net)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:41:53 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] RACES Drill this evening
Message-ID: <1234284113.4991ae512d56e@webmail.qis.net>



Folks;

There's a RACES drill this evening - 7:30 PM at the EOC. If anyone can make it
please contact Al Caho directly via email -- acaho at ccg.carr.org -- by 3:00 PM
today; otherwise he'll plan on spending the evening with his family.

I'm headed out of town on business so I will not be attending.

73; Steve, N3SB


From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 10 12:54:08 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:54:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] 2009 Club Operating Award ??  Feedback appreciated
Message-ID: <940447.66722.qm@web53905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In 2009 the ARRL has the Triple Play Award (work all 50 states on Phone, RTTY, and CW).  Triple-play status is tracked on LOTW under 'Awards' 

If there is club interest, we could do our 'own version' - adapted by members of an awards committee.  Some of the requirements can be tongue-in-cheek (but real for OUR award):

Perhaps we can amend 'triple play' with something like:

(a) participant choice to eliminate up to 8 (??) states from the USA (for sake of the award)
(b) eliminate one of the modes, and perhaps lighten the load on a second mode ?
(c) given the triple play, get extra points for an HF QSO with any station having a triple letter suffix ?? (examples N3III, WB8YYY, i think i worked W5AAA this weekend ....)
(d) ??

of course we could add endorsements for WAS on each mode achieved, or WAS mixed mode ...

cost to club = some nice paper !  

we could get someone to design a much nicer certificate than the Triple Play !  we could award them at the club holiday party !  

does anyone want to join me in forming a committee, and presenting a proposal to the club board ??

Definitely we want to develop the rules soon rather than in December.  

73, curt


---------------------------

Triple Play: (in spirit of full disclosure -- my current score is 70 out-of 150 possible, mostly gotten in the ARRL RTTY and 160m contests .... I have zero on Phone, but I did make some SSB QSO's this weekend)

Different -- State QSO Party Award -- this one is self tracking/print your own certificate.  I am confident I will miss a few !  I did work MN, NM, VT and DE this past weekend but the latter 2 were tough to find ! 

Note if YYY or III QSO does count for a few extra states, it won't help the score of either N3III or WB8YYY !!  




      

From kevin at inscoe.org  Thu Feb 12 15:04:21 2009
From: kevin at inscoe.org (Kevin P. Inscoe)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:04:21 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Orlando
Message-ID: <499480C5.60407@inscoe.org>

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Looking forward to saying hi to my Baltimore ham friends at Hamcation
this year. Will be there Saturday.

Regards & 73
- --
Kevin P. Inscoe                       Amateur Radio Call Sign: KE3VIN
Deltona, FL 32738                                28.9497N by 81.1952W
kevin [at] inscoe [dot] org                    http://kevininscoe.com
GPG 0x61288D53                                          Skype: ke3vin













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From dtjay at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 12 17:11:03 2009
From: dtjay at yahoo.com (John Yost)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:11:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Heathkit TV
In-Reply-To: <499480C5.60407@inscoe.org>
Message-ID: <64603.44946.qm@web45111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Free.

It has 25" screen with large "Mediterranean" wooden cabinet (31"H,48"W,26"D).

New picture tube - less than 25 hours operation on it.

With all manuals.

I built it in 1972, so it is old technology.

John
K3YJP

410-848-3493
?



      
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From kb3jqq at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 12 18:46:20 2009
From: kb3jqq at yahoo.com (Scott, KB3JQQ)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:46:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] 2009 Club Operating Award ?? Feedback appreciated
In-Reply-To: <940447.66722.qm@web53905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <442858.57080.qm@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> (c) given the triple play, get extra points for an HF QSO
> with any station having a triple letter suffix ?? (examples
> N3III, WB8YYY, i think i worked W5AAA this weekend ....)
> (d) ??

How about mobiles or suffixes with a double?


      

From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 20 12:58:38 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:58:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Technical Project Idea - Maybe - PSK31+CW Rig -
	Schematic Found
Message-ID: <150465.99042.qm@web53910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I had just about given up the vision of kitting a low cost QRP rig that members (and prospective members, particularly youth) could build (or we build for them) that would do both PSK-31 (primary function) and CW (secondary function) -- PSK of course occurs at set frequencies, and a few kHz of QSY is sane for minimal CW capability.  a few watts can communicate effectively on these modes, and the power supply could be simple!  

Warbler is around $60 and does PSK-31 only on 80m.  We would need to be lower cost and/or dual function to be interesting.  Warblers often have a long lead time .... 

I discovered this simple PSK rig posted by KD1JV, well known rig designer:

http://kd1jv.qrpradio.com/PSKTX/SIMPLEPSKTX.HTM

The rig has its quirks -- like requiring user to operate on a fixed PSK31 freq -- maybe this could be remedied by a VXO ?  

Essentially all the stuff is here also for a CW transmitter, and a receiver -- but some ability to QSY (tune) a little is required.  

Rig could be simpler if designed for 80m operation ?  That would eliminate one of the SA612 mixers (it is used to mix two xtals to get to 20 meters).  

If anyone wants to use their technical skills, join me in analyzing this circuit to see if we could refine it into a 'beginner rig.'  I see PSK-31 as a critical requirement, and useful as a first-mode for a new ham.  

If a rig emerges, we could consider kitting a decent sized lot and building a couple extras that could serve as gifts (or discounted) to youth?  That is if we can develop a useful low cost rig ??

Definitely we should explore best band to implement a simple rig with available (cheap) crystals - maybe i shouldn't throw out the second SA612 so quickly!  VXO using one of the xtals might be the trick?  

If this idea is sound (or we come up with a different approach), a big if, I would hope to form a small design team amongst us to make it happen.  Yes if we are onto something, Steve KD1JV certainly could be enlisted to review our thoughts.  

Reviewers - look for holes in my logic, challenges, and something might emerge.  



      

From twimsatt at wimsatt.truepath.com  Fri Feb 20 13:55:11 2009
From: twimsatt at wimsatt.truepath.com (twimsatt at wimsatt.truepath.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:55:11 -0800
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Fwd: Section-wide Echolink Net
Message-ID: <20090220105511.11222yhtnxfcmrgg@207.158.10.13>

FYI!

Tom
KB3PNU
Wimsatt Website:
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     Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:21:27 -0500 (EST)
     From: "ARRL MDC Section" <memberlist at www.arrl.org>
Reply-To: "ARRL MDC Section" <memberlist at www.arrl.org>
  Subject: Section-wide Echolink Net
       To: twimsatt at wimsatt.truepath.com

Tonight, Friday February 20 at 8:00 pm will be our regular third Friday
Echolink net.

Everyone is encouraged to check in either via Echolink on the WASH_DC
node 6154 server or via one of the local repeaters that is placed in
Echolink mode so you can check in via RF.

This is a net that everyone is welcome to check in and share what's
going on in your club or ARES group with others in the section.

Tell us what you've been up to, share information about upcoming events
or ask questions.  It's open to all.  For more about Echolink, please
click:  <http://www.echolink.org>,

73,

Jim Cross WI3N
SM MDC

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From comulada at verizon.net  Mon Feb 23 07:03:47 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:03:47 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Shack/fest Update...
Message-ID: <1F4D914F27F34EF9B111B96B3ED67438@hal9000>

Well, I did it, found a decent rig to purchase yesterday. I looked this
morning on eham to see what everyone has been paying for the rig and what
the comments were, I think I got a good deal. I got a Kenwood TS-180s with
matching speaker and power supply and desk mic. Every review I've read on
this unit says it's a great and solid performer. It's simple for me to start
out with so that's a plus. I really was looking at an IC-706MKIIG at the
fest but when I saw the Kenwood complete for less than the Icom, I went for
it! It was part of the silent key estate sale that the fest was putting on.
Also got a good deal on a Bearcat BC895XLT trunking scanner, a 2 meter
vertical (homebrew) and a 5/8 wave antenna for the car plus some pl-259's
and insulators. I also got 100' of RG-213 and 100' of LMR-400. Going to use
the existing RG-213 for the HF and the LMR for the UHF/VHF later on...There
was some nice looking hard-line for sale out in the parking lot but it went
so quick, I didn't get a chance to look at it. Oh, did manage to pick up a
parts bin with some good capacitor and resistor values. Many of the tables
were open for price negotiations but some were unyielding on their
merchandise. 

 

All in all, the fest was a success for me and it seemed to be an ok day for
the fest as well (was pretty packed). The tailgaters were snowed out but,
that was to be expected.

 

 

Managed to get my mast up last night but it was so dag-on windy, I couldn't
get the dipole up in the air. So I'm going to try again tonight and maybe
I'll have success?!? Then I can give Pete his analyzer back and start making
some contacts!!!!...

 

73's

 

Anthony

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From wb8yyy at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 24 12:32:17 2009
From: wb8yyy at yahoo.com (Curt Milton)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:32:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Turn On Rig - Discover a New Place !
Message-ID: <741372.16600.qm@web53910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This morning I woke early, so I got to the rig as the sun was rising.  As expected, VK's were there on 40m CW.  Tuning around -- T27OU -- reasonable signal on my vertical -- QSO in log.  I had to turn on the PC to see identity of T2 = Tulavu = 3700 miles away in continent 'OC'

Other than South Pacific I had no clue -- turns out this place wasn't a country when I was in high school.  Its the world's 4th smallest nation in land area .... less people than Carroll County.  

Lesson?  Take a few minutes on the web to learn a little about the people and places behind the call signs .... and turn on your radio more often at dawn!  

---------------
ARRL CW contest this past weekend was fun.  Minor league operator with minor league station with limited time managed 480 QSO's and nearly 200 multipliers ... nice to work from ZL to VQ9 on 20m with a vertical and 100 watts.  Even a few minutes in the RTTY contest a week ago was enjoyable.  

Take care and enjoy what the ionosphere gives.  73 curt



      

From comulada at verizon.net  Wed Feb 25 07:27:36 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:27:36 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Turn On Rig - Discover a New Place !
In-Reply-To: <741372.16600.qm@web53910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <741372.16600.qm@web53910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E2FDAC4658A149EC91F7F5A277C5874D@hal9000>

Well, I'm just about to the point to where the rig will be on the air this
weekend for sure. I got my line up in the trees last night thanks to one of
my neighbors with a compound bow. We took the head off the arrow and poked a
hole through a tennis ball. Tied a string to the ball, inserted the arrow
and 3rd attempt made it up about 40' in the tree. There are still some
branches from other trees interfering so I'll have to figure out how to get
around them. The dipoles are a little high for the frequencies I want so a
little bit of wire needs to come off of each to get them where I want. Did a
little bit of listening last night and I was picking up stations in
Colorado, Chicago, South America and this morning a qrp station from the
Caribbean too (British west indies on 10 watts!)! I didn't write any of the
call signs down but, the Kenwood sounds great so far! Just have to sure up
the ground to the rig and the lightning arrestor for the coax. Stayed up
till around midnight last night putting PL-259s on the RG-213 I got at the
fest and a little cable routing through my walls (to the xyl's dismay after
9pm). I can almost taste it!

73's

Anthony
KB3RJH 

-----Original Message-----
From: k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net
[mailto:k3pzn-list-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Curt Milton
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:32 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Turn On Rig - Discover a New Place !

This morning I woke early, so I got to the rig as the sun was rising.  As
expected, VK's were there on 40m CW.  Tuning around -- T27OU -- reasonable
signal on my vertical -- QSO in log.  I had to turn on the PC to see
identity of T2 = Tulavu = 3700 miles away in continent 'OC'

Other than South Pacific I had no clue -- turns out this place wasn't a
country when I was in high school.  Its the world's 4th smallest nation in
land area .... less people than Carroll County.  

Lesson?  Take a few minutes on the web to learn a little about the people
and places behind the call signs .... and turn on your radio more often at
dawn!  

---------------
ARRL CW contest this past weekend was fun.  Minor league operator with minor
league station with limited time managed 480 QSO's and nearly 200
multipliers ... nice to work from ZL to VQ9 on 20m with a vertical and 100
watts.  Even a few minutes in the RTTY contest a week ago was enjoyable.  

Take care and enjoy what the ionosphere gives.  73 curt



      
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From comulada at verizon.net  Wed Feb 25 07:32:41 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:32:41 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have????
Message-ID: <D9FC43AC9B454170B9240AC8D814240E@hal9000>

I'm looking for a BNC male to SO-239 adapter. I got this scanner and it's
BNC in the back...Anyone have an extra I can buy off them and pickup
sometime this week?

 

73's

 

Anthony

KB3RJH

 


From mortonph at comcast.net  Wed Feb 25 12:01:03 2009
From: mortonph at comcast.net (Peter Morton)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:01:03 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have????
In-Reply-To: <D9FC43AC9B454170B9240AC8D814240E@hal9000>
References: <D9FC43AC9B454170B9240AC8D814240E@hal9000>
Message-ID: <5D5F1A339FE7423D93FDD1DB94CA180D@ToshibaLaptop>

Anthony-

I have male-bnc to female-UHF adapters.  Also have a tennis ball launcher 
(large sling shot) with fishing reel attached.  You are welcome to borrow.

-Pete (W3GVX)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ARC" <comulada at verizon.net>
To: "Carroll County Amature Radio Group" <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:32 AM
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have????


> I'm looking for a BNC male to SO-239 adapter. I got this scanner and it's
> BNC in the back...Anyone have an extra I can buy off them and pickup
> sometime this week?
>
>
>
> 73's
>
>
>
> Anthony
>
> KB3RJH
>
>
>
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From patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov  Wed Feb 25 13:29:29 2009
From: patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov (Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680))
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:29:29 -0600
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have?? > RF Connector Adapters
In-Reply-To: <D9FC43AC9B454170B9240AC8D814240E@hal9000>
References: <D9FC43AC9B454170B9240AC8D814240E@hal9000>
Message-ID: <DB6DC3EEF796694FAAB392432C8B12C4F52180@NDMSEVS36B.ndc.nasa.gov>

RE: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have?? > BNC-UHF Adapter

Hi Anthony,

Good to see you on the MDC Section Net 
Conference on EchoLink last week!  

If all else fails then try the RF Connection 
of Gaithersburg, Md. via mail order:  

The R.F. Connection
213 N. Frederick Ave. Suite 11-W
Gaithersburg, MD 20877
USA

Tech Support: (301) 840-5477
Orders:       (800) 783-2666
24 hour Fax:  (301) 869-3680

E-mail address: rfc at therfc.com

Web Pages:
http://therfc.com/

See the pictures at 
http://therfc.com/bnc.htm or 
http://therfc.com/uhf.htm and 
http://therfc.com/adapt.htm
to make sure you got the male vs. female 
correctly identified on the BNC connector.  
FYI, the rubber flex antenna to your old HT, 
for example, uses a male, whereas the 
connector mounted to the HT itself is a 
female type.  Of course you know that an 
SO-239 is a SOcket or female, as opposed to 
the PL-259 which is a PLug, but I digress.  

(Cuz it seems that the general public 
uses plug and socket interchangably when 
talking 120 VAC electrical outlets and 
extension chords!)  

What timing.  I am expecting a shipment of 
N-type and SMA adapters from them at home 
today!  

Hope this helps others as well.  

Cheers,

Pat
N8PK


Mr. Patrick L. Kilroy
Integration & Test Manager
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Building 5, Mail Code 568
Greenbelt, Maryland 20771
Phone: +1-301-286-1984
E-mail: Patrick.L.Kilroy at nasa.gov
Web: http://patkilroy.com/simsat/3/ (outreach)


-----Original Message-----
From: ARC [mailto:comulada at verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:33 AM
To: Carroll County Amature Radio Group
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have????

I'm looking for a BNC male to SO-239 adapter. I got this scanner and
it's
BNC in the back...Anyone have an extra I can buy off them and pickup
sometime this week?

 

73's

 

Anthony

KB3RJH

 



From comulada at verizon.net  Wed Feb 25 14:19:26 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (A Comulada)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:19:26 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have?? > RF Connector Adapters
Message-ID: <0KFM00F1EZ0DX7P1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net>

Excellent, I will commit that to the address book. 

I did manage to find one though... I hope to be scanning the freqs tonight!

73

Anthony
KB3RJH

-----Original Message-----
From: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:29 PM
To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club <k3pzn-list at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have?? > RF Connector Adapters

RE: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have?? > BNC-UHF Adapter

Hi Anthony,

Good to see you on the MDC Section Net 
Conference on EchoLink last week!  

If all else fails then try the RF Connection 
of Gaithersburg, Md. via mail order:  

The R.F. Connection
213 N. Frederick Ave. Suite 11-W
Gaithersburg, MD 20877
USA

Tech Support: (301) 840-5477
Orders:       (800) 783-2666
24 hour Fax:  (301) 869-3680

E-mail address: rfc at therfc.com

Web Pages:
http://therfc.com/

See the pictures at 
http://therfc.com/bnc.htm or 


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From kb3jqq at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 25 22:54:14 2009
From: kb3jqq at yahoo.com (Scott, KB3JQQ)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:54:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Turn On Rig - Discover a New Place !
In-Reply-To: <E2FDAC4658A149EC91F7F5A277C5874D@hal9000>
Message-ID: <461449.67668.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> The dipoles are a little high for the
> frequencies I want so a
> little bit of wire needs to come off of each to get them
> where I want.


More wire is a lower resonant frequency while less wire is a
higher resonant frequency. It's an inverse relationship.

Wavelength in meters = 300/Freq
1/4 wavelength = 234/Freq (this is one half of a half wave dipole)

In realty, since the speed of electrons down a wire is a percentage
of the speed of light (the velocity factor), the wire length for
any given frequency will be longer then calculated.


      

From kb3jqq at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 25 22:59:09 2009
From: kb3jqq at yahoo.com (Scott, KB3JQQ)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:59:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Does anyone have????
In-Reply-To: <D9FC43AC9B454170B9240AC8D814240E@hal9000>
Message-ID: <941124.69655.qm@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


> I'm looking for a BNC male to SO-239 adapter. I got this
> scanner and it's
> BNC in the back...Anyone have an extra I can buy off them
> and pickup
> sometime this week?

The one I use for my scanner is (male BNC to SO-239)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062626

The other direction is (BNC female to PL-259)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103319

Your choice: $5.99


      

From comulada at verizon.net  Sat Feb 28 20:20:48 2009
From: comulada at verizon.net (ARC)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:20:48 -0500
Subject: [K3PZN-List] Success!!!
Message-ID: <09652DF2E41E429D80A4D0B29D88A390@hal9000>

Ok, thanks to Pete for helping me today. I was really getting worried about
not making a contact but, I took my rig over to Pete's house today and he
showed me how to get it running right and as a result, made my first HF
contact on 40 meters tonight! It was a DX contact with I2VRN in Milan, Italy
@ 7:50pm (00:50 UTC). I was floored that he actually heard me @ 4246 miles
from my QTH! His signal report for me started out at 5 and 7 and ended up at
5 and 9 so, needless to say, I'm still ecstatic!!! Time to go make some more
contacts!!! 

 

73,

 

Anthony

KB3RJH


