[K3PZN-List] FD2007 Initial Report - PSK QRO or equivalent

Curt Milton wb8yyy at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 26 12:03:55 EDT 2007 

Rich

Good thing to question my sanity after putting a lot
of hours working CW, and spending a couple hours
erecting a dipole on a fiberglass pole with W3JJH ....

I am merely saying that we should aim for better
antennas vs. trying to do all in parallel.  The PSK31
station likely could have made the same number of
contacts in 1/3rd the time with better antennas. 
Ditto for phone.  So this is my premise to share
better antennas - and enjoy the rest of FD away from
the rig!  

It would be an interesting analysis to consider (1)
using EOC vs (2) an open field.  I don't think we can
spread the antennas out much further in a field per
the rules.  My premise is with 2 good antennas per
band we can still get enough radio time for each mode.
 I merely suggested the digital/phone sharing since we
probably logged less hours on these modes than CW
during FD.  

I operated all three CW rigs, and we clearly had nice
antennas (thank you W3JJH !) on 80, 40 and 20. 
Supplementing these with 3 more high quality portable
antennas will boost our productivity.  If we had a
nice 20m extended double zepp we could conceivably
have two decent signals on 20m, scheduling 3 modes
across these 2 antennas - and similarly address the
other bands.  

73, curt

--- geobra at att.net wrote:

> Curt,
> What are you talking about?  In 13 rig hours phone
> did 120 QSOs.  Digital can share CW's antennas!  
> Seriously, though, I don't think we need EOC (FTC)
> antennas for a QRP field day, if we go that route
> next year.  Digital was on a portable antenna, phone
> was on a portable antenna and I believe 40m CW was
> also.  And if we don't use EOC (FTC) antennas, the
> antennas can be spread out much farther for less
> interference.  
> I also think that the 60 80m phone contacts in 8
> hours and the 60 40m phone contacts in 5 hours shows
> that phone is a viable (and for us a really
> untapped) way to get QRP QSOs.  I'll bet that if you
> ran 2 QRP phone stations continuously you could
> easily get 300 QSOs, probably 400.
> Rich, N3III
> 
> -------------- Original message from Curt Milton
> <wb8yyy at yahoo.com>: -------------- 
> 
> 
> > John 
> > 
> > Thanks for the nice post. Yes I like to poke a
> little 
> > fun at the digital mode station since it has a
> thirst 
> > for using DC power, and even the power to boost
> its RF 
> > output may not be that great compared to how much
> the 
> > PC uses ! (But I do enjoy working some PSK31 at
> home, 
> > and it will be even more fun now running 30 watts 
> > instead of 5 watts with my K2 ! And last night I 
> > turned on my TT1340 QRP rig, worked a VE2, heard a
> 
> > LY3-station that I could not work, so I did use
> the K2 
> > to work him on 40m). 
> > 
> > Lets see 5 to 50 watts is 10 dB ... 
> > 
> > Maybe we can boost your RF signal next year with a
> 
> > better antenna ! Maybe an extended double zepp
> will 
> > get half of this 10 dB (or more) on 20m compared
> to an 
> > outbacker? And on 40m likely it still would have 
> > about 5 dB gain over an outbacker ? 
> > 
> > Next year I suggest we focus on fewer, better 
> > antennas. It might mean sharing them between
> digital 
> > and phone, but our productivity would go up a
> bunch. 
> > And more time to chat between radio operating. 
> > 
> > And I wonder if a K2 on PSK would output less RF 
> > across the band .... 
> > 
> > Maybe we need a play radio event at the EOC to see
> 
> > what we can do as a rehersal. 
> > 
> > I wonder if there is a way to install halyards at
> the 
> > EOC for easy temporary antenna lifting (??).
> Probably 
> > no as we would have already done it. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- John Hart wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hello to all, 
> > > 
> > > I had a great time at the 2007 Field Day event.
> The 
> > > HF Digital Station was 
> > > a little slow getting started on Saturday due to
> a 
> > > few little technical 
> > > glitches but everything ran smooth all night 
> > > (especially with the 4, 5 or more cups of
> coffee) 
> > > and club member support. 
> > > Batteries are the way to go, but I would like to
> 
> > > have alittle more RF OUT 
> > > maybe 50 watts would be nice on the digital
> modes. 
> > > I guess I will need more 
> > > batteries and MORE AMP-HOURS (you know you
> cann't 
> > > have too many AMP-HOURS 
> > > stored up for these events) . 
> > > 
> > > John, K3KWO 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >From: geobra at att.net 
> > > >Reply-To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club 
> > > 
> > > >To: Carroll County Amateur Radio Club 
> > > 
> > > >Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] FD2007 Initial Report
> 
> > > >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:46:38 +0000 
> > > > 
> > > >Great thanks to John who ran Field Day! 
> > > > 
> > > >Rich, N3III 
> > > > 
> > > >-------------- Original message from W3JJH 
> > > : -------------- 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > QST de W3JJH: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The initial report for FD 2007 is posted at
> . In 
> > > summary, 478 CW 
> > > > > QSOs, 43 on digital, and 72 on Phone, with a
> 
> > > total of 1800 bonus points 
> > > >for a 
> > > > > provisional total of 7370. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you to everyone who helped! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 72 de W3JJH 
> > > > > John 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> >
>
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> the 
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> > > >Training 
> > > > > Center in Westminster. 
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