[Johnson] Johnson Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
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> 1. Re: Valiant rebuild (Glen Zook via Johnson)
> 2. Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs (Robert Sauvan)
> 3. Re: Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs (David Harmon)
> 4. Re: Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs (Robert Sauvan)
> 5. Re: Valiant rebuild (A Lawrence Fibich)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 16:03:09 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Glen Zook via Johnson <johnson at mailman.qth.net>
> To: A Lawrence Fibich <lfibich at sbcglobal.net>, Larry Oneets
> <oneets123 at gmail.com>, "Johnson at mailman.qth.net"
> <Johnson at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Johnson] Valiant rebuild
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> NFPA NEC (National Electrical Code) calls for a fuse in the "hot" (black)
> wire. ?In general, it is not a good idea to fuse the "neutral" (white) wire
> because, if only the fuse in the "neutral" blows, there will still be line
> voltage present in the unit.?Glen, K9STH
>
> Website: http://k9sth.net
> From: A Lawrence Fibich <lfibich at sbcglobal.net>
> To: Larry Oneets <oneets123 at gmail.com>; "Johnson at mailman.qth.net" <
> Johnson at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Johnson] Valiant rebuild
>
> With the questions about the fuse/s - got me to thinking and I just wired
> -- take a 3 prong plug - cut the female part off - splice in a couple of
> inline fuses - and then put into an electrical box and connect to a 3 prong
> dual electrical plug-in socket - with a cover. ?Then you have 2 electrical
> receptacles with fuse/d protection... occurred to me I have a couple of
> Heathkit units that are not fused/protected - plugging them into such will
> protect them as well. ? THANKS for getting me thinking. ?Of course with
> this ?arrangement - no need to rewire/cut holes, etc., in your units to
> have them fused.
> Larry F.AF6LF
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 13:57:49 -0600
> From: Robert Sauvan <rsauvan at beyondbb.com>
> To: johnson at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Johnson] Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs
> Message-ID: <55622D3D.5020600 at beyondbb.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> Still working on the Valiant. I have now torn the vfo covers off and
> rebuilt the original owners rebuilt coupler. I spent 4 hours doing this
> to get the vfo dial to finally work without freezing up. It was a
> combination of round head screws touching inside the vfo box and most of
> all a case of binding when you would tighten the big brass nut holding
> the coupler/dial assembly to the front panel. It was just a matter of
> putting a large star washer between the gear box nut and the backside of
> the front panel. As with anything, it never seems to go back together
> quite like it came apart. I just couldnt figure out why the front panel
> would not sit flat like one would assume when reinstalling. It was
> leaving a very small space between the front panel and the gear box nut
> and when you tightened it up it would freeze up the mechanism. It is now
> fixed for good and the radio is back on the operating bench.
>
> While I was inside this thing though. I noticed a green wire coming from
> the right jewel light on the front of the radio. It is cut and just
> wound around the other wires coming from the bulb.Under the chassis I
> notice a green wire going up into the top side of the chassis but cant
> see it coming out. Looks as if it might be buried in a harness. Until I
> get more time to look at the schematic, Im not sure what this wire is
> all about. My questions is whether or not the jewel light on the left
> side is supposed to ever turn on? The bulb on the right turns on when I
> go into transmit but the left bulb never does. Maybe this cut green wire
> is the culprit. The left bulb does have wiring going to it. My Ranger
> has two bulbs but the right one is a dummy light. Doesnt have any wiring
> to it. Also, I have noticed on You Tube videos a couple of the radios I
> have seen, have a green jewel on the left side. Can anyone clarify that?
> Mine is red just like the one on the right. Can anyone tell me when thir
> bulbs turn on if they even do?
>
> BTW- havent blown any fuses yet. Knock on wood!!
>
> Thanks-Bob-W0YBS
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 15:50:23 -0500
> From: "David Harmon" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <johnson at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Johnson] Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> The left light comes on when you turn on the filaments.
> The right light comes on when you transmit.
>
> I have 2 Rangers a Valiant and a 500.
> Only the Valiant has a green light on the left....it is factory assembled.
> I have often wondered why the left lamp was sometimes not wired....doesn't
> make sense to me.
> I wired them all and they work correctly....but I would like to have some
> more green jewels.
> Yours is likely one of those units that must have been missing the lamp
> holder in the kit.
> Most of the Johnson gear was in kit form so perhaps they forgot that part.
> You can check the schematic and hook er' up.
> You can dwnld an assembly manual from BAMA....this will show the wiring
> harness diagram and save you a lot of time.
>
>
> 73
>
> David Harmon
> K6XYZ
> Sperry, OK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnson [mailto:johnson-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert
> Sauvan
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:58 PM
> To: johnson at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Johnson] Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs
>
> Still working on the Valiant. I have now torn the vfo covers off and
> rebuilt
> the original owners rebuilt coupler. I spent 4 hours doing this to get the
> vfo dial to finally work without freezing up. It was a combination of round
> head screws touching inside the vfo box and most of all a case of binding
> when you would tighten the big brass nut holding the coupler/dial assembly
> to the front panel. It was just a matter of putting a large star washer
> between the gear box nut and the backside of the front panel. As with
> anything, it never seems to go back together quite like it came apart. I
> just couldnt figure out why the front panel would not sit flat like one
> would assume when reinstalling. It was leaving a very small space between
> the front panel and the gear box nut and when you tightened it up it would
> freeze up the mechanism. It is now fixed for good and the radio is back on
> the operating bench.
>
> While I was inside this thing though. I noticed a green wire coming from
> the
> right jewel light on the front of the radio. It is cut and just wound
> around
> the other wires coming from the bulb.Under the chassis I notice a green
> wire
> going up into the top side of the chassis but cant see it coming out. Looks
> as if it might be buried in a harness. Until I get more time to look at the
> schematic, Im not sure what this wire is all about. My questions is whether
> or not the jewel light on the left side is supposed to ever turn on? The
> bulb on the right turns on when I go into transmit but the left bulb never
> does. Maybe this cut green wire is the culprit. The left bulb does have
> wiring going to it. My Ranger has two bulbs but the right one is a dummy
> light. Doesnt have any wiring to it. Also, I have noticed on You Tube
> videos
> a couple of the radios I have seen, have a green jewel on the left side.
> Can
> anyone clarify that?
> Mine is red just like the one on the right. Can anyone tell me when thir
> bulbs turn on if they even do?
>
> BTW- havent blown any fuses yet. Knock on wood!!
>
> Thanks-Bob-W0YBS
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 16:49:31 -0600
> From: Robert Sauvan <rsauvan at beyondbb.com>
> To: johnson at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Johnson] Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs
> Message-ID: <5562557B.5060607 at beyondbb.com>
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>
> Thanks Dave,
> I just sat down with the manual and will try to figure it out. This was
> a kit radio since everything is nuts and bolts. I would like to get the
> lights working properly. I also seem to only have lighting on the left
> side of the dial so I dont know if that is normal or not. Will have to
> look into that as well. If you find a source for the "green" jewel I
> would love to have one too.
>
> Thanks-Bob-W0YBS
>
> On 5/24/2015 2:50 PM, David Harmon wrote:
> > The left light comes on when you turn on the filaments.
> > The right light comes on when you transmit.
> >
> > I have 2 Rangers a Valiant and a 500.
> > Only the Valiant has a green light on the left....it is factory
> assembled.
> > I have often wondered why the left lamp was sometimes not
> wired....doesn't
> > make sense to me.
> > I wired them all and they work correctly....but I would like to have some
> > more green jewels.
> > Yours is likely one of those units that must have been missing the lamp
> > holder in the kit.
> > Most of the Johnson gear was in kit form so perhaps they forgot that
> part.
> > You can check the schematic and hook er' up.
> > You can dwnld an assembly manual from BAMA....this will show the wiring
> > harness diagram and save you a lot of time.
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> > David Harmon
> > K6XYZ
> > Sperry, OK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnson [mailto:johnson-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Robert
> > Sauvan
> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:58 PM
> > To: johnson at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Johnson] Valiant power on and transmit jewel bulbs
> >
> > Still working on the Valiant. I have now torn the vfo covers off and
> rebuilt
> > the original owners rebuilt coupler. I spent 4 hours doing this to get
> the
> > vfo dial to finally work without freezing up. It was a combination of
> round
> > head screws touching inside the vfo box and most of all a case of binding
> > when you would tighten the big brass nut holding the coupler/dial
> assembly
> > to the front panel. It was just a matter of putting a large star washer
> > between the gear box nut and the backside of the front panel. As with
> > anything, it never seems to go back together quite like it came apart. I
> > just couldnt figure out why the front panel would not sit flat like one
> > would assume when reinstalling. It was leaving a very small space between
> > the front panel and the gear box nut and when you tightened it up it
> would
> > freeze up the mechanism. It is now fixed for good and the radio is back
> on
> > the operating bench.
> >
> > While I was inside this thing though. I noticed a green wire coming from
> the
> > right jewel light on the front of the radio. It is cut and just wound
> around
> > the other wires coming from the bulb.Under the chassis I notice a green
> wire
> > going up into the top side of the chassis but cant see it coming out.
> Looks
> > as if it might be buried in a harness. Until I get more time to look at
> the
> > schematic, Im not sure what this wire is all about. My questions is
> whether
> > or not the jewel light on the left side is supposed to ever turn on? The
> > bulb on the right turns on when I go into transmit but the left bulb
> never
> > does. Maybe this cut green wire is the culprit. The left bulb does have
> > wiring going to it. My Ranger has two bulbs but the right one is a dummy
> > light. Doesnt have any wiring to it. Also, I have noticed on You Tube
> videos
> > a couple of the radios I have seen, have a green jewel on the left side.
> Can
> > anyone clarify that?
> > Mine is red just like the one on the right. Can anyone tell me when thir
> > bulbs turn on if they even do?
> >
> > BTW- havent blown any fuses yet. Knock on wood!!
> >
> > Thanks-Bob-W0YBS
> > ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 04:23:32 +0000 (UTC)
> From: A Lawrence Fibich <lfibich at sbcglobal.net>
> To: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>, JOHNSON LIST
> <johnson at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Johnson] Valiant rebuild
> Message-ID:
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> Good point Glen,,, so loose the fuse on the white (ground) wire. - or
> jumper it if you use a twin fused line. However, chances are the black line
> fuse would blow and the white line fuse redundancy that is really not
> needed -- yes the 'box' would be at ground potential not unlike the "old 2
> line/wire" house AC line wiring in which the white was ground/ed... ?But
> the idea is still that this would/will provide a fused line instead of
> putting a fuse on the 'black' side within the unit... ?and of course the
> fuse would protect better than the 'house' AC line fuse/circuit breaker -
> e.g. of a much lower current rating.I suggested this for those who had some
> difficulty/problem putting/mounting a fuse inside the unit.
> Larry?AF6LF
>
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:03 AM, Glen Zook via Johnson <
> johnson at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> NFPA NEC (National Electrical Code) calls for a fuse in the "hot" (black)
> wire. ?In general, it is not a good idea to fuse the "neutral" (white) wire
> because, if only the fuse in the "neutral" blows, there will still be line
> voltage present in the unit.?Glen, K9STH
>
> Website: http://k9sth.net
> ? ? ? From: A Lawrence Fibich <lfibich at sbcglobal.net>
> To: Larry Oneets <oneets123 at gmail.com>; "Johnson at mailman.qth.net" <
> Johnson at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Johnson] Valiant rebuild
> ?
> With the questions about the fuse/s - got me to thinking and I just wired
> -- take a 3 prong plug - cut the female part off - splice in a couple of
> inline fuses - and then put into an electrical box and connect to a 3 prong
> dual electrical plug-in socket - with a cover. ?Then you have 2 electrical
> receptacles with fuse/d protection... occurred to me I have a couple of
> Heathkit units that are not fused/protected - plugging them into such will
> protect them as well. ? THANKS for getting me thinking. ?Of course with
> this ?arrangement - no need to rewire/cut holes, etc., in your units to
> have them fused.
> Larry F.AF6LF
>
>
> ?
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