[JMS] JMS QSL's

Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:31:05 -0600 (CST)

Harry and Gary (sounds like a good beginning for a joke, hi)

Yes, I believe Ralph has the rights to the Millen trademarks.  So he would have to 
give his permission for the use of it on a QSL card.  Although, bless his heart, he 
hasn't sued the JMS for having the "M Gear" logo on our website.  Actually it probably 
good for the business, hi.  By the way all, I think Ralph still has Millen Electronics 
up for sale.  So if you want to become the next Millen here's your chance.

Your right a RED card based on the old Millen Boxes sounds great.  I like the T-Shirt 
idea too.  Perhaps a personal project for someone.  I already take care of the 
embroidered shirts so I will pass on this project.  This type of shirt sounds like a 
possible money maker if released to the general ham population instead of just JMS 
members.  Just like those Collins, ER, National (hey we could ware those) T-shirts.

The QSL printer I used for the W1HRX AWA/JMS event were done by WX9X out in Indiana.  
He comes to most of the swapfest in the Chicago area and does some remarkable work.  I 
did my original art work for that last QSL using Corel Draw.  Everything was done via 
email and they worked it up and sent me proofs to review before anything went to 
press.  WX9X was also one of the lowest cost wise.  I think it would cost us around 
$150-$175 for 2000 cards.  Based on it was $101 for 500 photo cards and I remember it 
was only about $10 for each additional increment of 250 pieces after that.  Today 
there s alot of QSL printing from overseas, even Russia.  Do a search on the web 
sometime for QSL printers and you will see.  The overseas guys look like they do 
fantastics jobs, but when you get done with postage and any delivery delays costs 
would probably be over what we can obtain them from WX9X.  Oh yeah, I think he can 
except just about any graphics format for the art work.  So don't worry if you don't 
have Corel.  I like Corel draw in that it's really a drawing program and not a paint 
or graphics program.  Thus when you create the card it is truly WSIWYG and the screen 
shows you a ruler scale for exact dimensions while you work on it.  Not an advert, but 
you can get Corel version 9 in OEM package (no paper manual) off eBay for around $30 
new.  The package contains Corel Draw, Corel Photo-Paint and a bunch of other 
presentation type applications.  Anyhoot, that's much more information than is 
required in this email (I just get carried away, hi).

Don't forget the cards can be double-sided.  So front could be standard with a report 
area on the reverse side.

73

Don N9OO

P.S.  Gary I've seen many QSL's with the AWA, QCWA and other logos on them.  I suppose 
since a QSL isn't a money making venture they are probably allowed.  The Millen logo 
might be different since it's a company logo and not an organization logo.  Also 
please note the background logo on our JMS membership roster area.  It uses the "M 
Gear" logo within.  I made that a few years back.  However, I think I lost the 
original computer artwork in a system crash.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:40:14 -0800, Harry Blesy wrote:

>I'm for it. Harry Blesy, N9CQX
>< 		Don,
>< 
>< 	Does Ralph have control over the trademark Millen "M Gear" company 
>< logo? I always thought a cool JMS QSL card would be one based on the 
>< design of the Millen red parts boxes from the 50's and 60's, including 
>< the "Designed for Application" slogan. Heck, that would make for a great 
>< tee shirt design as well! It would also be nice to have permission to 
>< use the "M Gear" logo in small format on our own individual QSL cards, 
>< like some use the ARRL diamond in a small corner of their cards. On a 
>< related subject, I wouldn't mind having permission to use the AWA logo 
>< on my QSL cards as well. (I'll have to ask Geoff Bourne and the rest of 
>< the board about that.) Something to think about.....
>< 
>< 	73, Gary - WA4IAM
>< 
>< 
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