[ILQSO] On Lake Carlyle...

millerd18 at yahoo.com millerd18 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 12 19:04:37 EDT 2012 

Hopefully this can end this conversation.

I just went and marked the CLTN-BOND-FAYE corners with an old  mail buoy I kept since my Navy days. Its anchored with a couple of Montgomery Ward chest freezers. 

How I found the exact location is exactly based a combination of copper diving rods; one dipped in silver solder, the other in peanut butter mixed with yellow enamel paint. 

The effect of these rods looks not for magnetic forces radiating from county borders, but actually the reciprocal (theory behind this can be found in the Cleveland Institute of Electronics series on "Transient Analysis, Part II, chapter 4 under Basic Time Domain circuits where Kerchoff's Voltage Law meets Luther's doctrine of transubstanciation.)


The reaction of the rods over water, coupled with everyday confusion, results in the rods not moving together or apart, nor being drawn down or up, but rather, when directly on top of a county line, they coil up violently like hair being singed. (Thus many pairs of rods are needed to triangulate said lines and corners.)

The mail buoy is bright red with a yellow vertical antenna made with the peanut butter rod (it looks like a huge oblong styrofoam bobber.

The antenna tuned up nicely on 10 meters so after a few contacts to the CB'ers in Central America, I decided to put the K9JHQ beacon inside the mail buoy and let it run till ILQP.

If you listen closely on 28.2565Mc, you can hear it beckoning "O Carolan, sail away sail away on Lake Carlyle where 3 counties meet."

73 KM9O


-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Greeb <n8xx at arrl.org>
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:48:56 
To: <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
Reply-To: Illinois QSO Party <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ILQSO] On Lake Carlyle...

Chuck:

Your 2 cents make a lot of sense to me.

But, proper Queen's Englyshe, according to my forth grayde Englyshe 
teechur, would be "that's from where we should be operating."

I like your sediment.  If being on shore at the closest public site the 
"real" corner suffices, and blessed by the powers that be, I'm all for 
it.  I might wander over to the park or marina closest to the corner one 
of the next couple years.  The previous ruling when I was at a four 
corner site was that one should be within 600 feet of the actual 
point.   Any shore line seems farther than 600' from the point, at least 
according to my Rand McNally Road Atlas.

72/73 de n8xx Hg
QRP >99.44% of the time

On 10/12/2012 5:34 PM, KI9A at aol.com wrote:
> Let me re-phrase this a bit...
>   
> maybe 20 years ago, what would a normal ham, who doesn't know jack about
> stars, and navigating, and before gps do in this case?
>   
> The ham would get as close as he thinks it is, and get on the air. Look, I
> understand the rules, but, if the line is a few hundred feet out in the
> water,  and, a state park is onshore, that's where we should be operating from.
>   
> just my 2 cents..
>   
> 73 and cant wait to see everyone next Sunday! Chuck KI9A
>   
>   
> In a message dated 10/12/2012 4:29:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> dpbunte at gmail.com writes:
>
> I know  you said "and don't say GPS", but that is exactly how I would do
> it.   IF your GPS can identify county lines (some do) then it should be
> pretty  easy.
>
> Dave - K9FN
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Zig Markowski  <km9m-zig at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Google Earth, select county  lines and look for the intersects.
>>
>> Chuck <ki9a at aol.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> stupid question...how does one determine where a  county line is on a
>> lake??? lol (and dont say gps...)
>>   >
>>> Sent from my Droid Charge on Verizon 4G LTE
>>   >
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Kevin Anderson  <k9iua at yahoo.com>
>>> To: <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
>>   >Date: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:40:52 AM GMT-0700
>>> Subject:  Re: [ILQSO] On Lake Carlyle...
>>>
>>> As one who usually  does rover operations in the ILQP, I can easily
>> imagine a three-county  maritime rover operation.  This way you wouldn't
>> need to anchor  at the county line intersection, but you could motor to
> the
>> sections  of the lake in each county and operate for an hour from each.
>>    That way, if you are tucked in closer to shore, you wouldn't
> necessarily
>> need to endure the wind and the waves so much.
>>   >
>>> Cheers/73,
>>> Kevin, K9IUA
>>> --
>>   >-------------------------------------
>>> Kevin Anderson, Dubuque  IA USA, K9IUA
>>> k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com
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