[ILQSO] Logging in The ILQP

Mon Nov 14 22:33:48 EST 2011

Multiple-county stations working other multiple-county stations really isn't a problem.  You just multiply to get the number of QSO's:

N9FN (4-counties) works WI9X (4 counties) = total of 16 QSOs for each.

What gets hairy is when ROVERS work stations from a county line or corner and then work the same station on the same band-mode on another line or corner that includes one of the original counties:

N9JF/R works KO1U from the SHEL.  Then N9JF/R stops on the SHEL/CHRS line and KO1U calls again (he still needs CHRS).  N9JF/R's log has to be culled to get rid of the dupe for KO1U from SHEL.  But...again....that is not the fault of the software.

Yes, I'll talk to someone clever when I get a chance.  In the meantime, keep the logs coming.  Most of them are in the Master Log and ready for final checking and scoring.  Hope to have them done by the end of the year.

73, Jim N9JF

-----Original Message-----
From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Gardner
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 8:31 PM
To: Illinois QSO Party
Subject: Re: [ILQSO] Logging in The ILQP

Joe,

The answer to your question about dupes, is that there are no dupes. The reason is that an IL station counts each communication with another station as one  QSO for each county he sends. Thus, if he is on a 4-county corner, your one QSO with him is logged as four QSOs, one per county. 

An real example should make this clear:

N9LF (me, in Indiana) works N9FN in IL - on the CHAM/DOUG/EDGR/VERM corner.

N9FN sends me four counties and I send him IN.

I log one QSO, noting that I sent IN and received four counties, namely CHAM/DOUG/EDGR/VERM.

N9FN, logs one QSO, noting my IN, but also that he SENT four.

Now between us humans, this seems like one QSO (non-contesters might claim it wasn't even that, but let's not go down that path...).  To the log checking process, that really was four distinct QSOs...
N9FN in CHAM to N9LF in IN.
N9FN in DOUG to N9LF in IN.
N9FN in EDGR to N9LF in IN.
N9FN in VERM to N9LF in IN.

So just as an IL mobile can work you again when he changes counties, so can a fixed/portable/mobile on a county line/corner (without all the bother of actually moving).

Hopefully, that makes it a bit clearer (it isn't easy describing this in email - I need a whiteboard).

Now, consider the scoring when N9FN (on that same corner) works an IL station on another county corner, say NN9K at WHTE/OGLE/LEE.  How many QSOs is that?   This is one example where writing log checking software gets a bit tricky.

Please understand that I do not speak for or on behalf of N9JF or any of the ILQP organizers.

Tim - N9LF
(log checker for INQP)

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From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
To: ilqso at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:48 AM
Subject: [ILQSO] Logging in The ILQP

I had a blast in the ILQP a few weeks ago.  Being an ex pat (I grew up 
and first became licensed in Schaumburg) IL always will be a somewhat 
home to me.

This contest is very similar in format to the WIQP.  But with the 
Multiple counties thing being the only difference. Really.

In the rules it says,

"Contacts with/by stations at the border of 2 counties count as 2 
counties and 2 QSOs; the border of 3 (or 4) counties count as 3 (or 4) 
counties and 3 (or 4) QSOs."

Being out of the state it was easy to do the logging when some IL 
station was on a county line, Ya just logged them twice or more times 
with the different county entered, so the logging program would accept 
it just fine. And I in Wisconsin get a quick multiple QSO's and possible 
new mults.

But it to me is not clear as to how does a qso like this work for the IL 
station?

Example.

Say the IL station is on two counties.  I work him from here in Sauk 
County WI.  I get two Qso's And whatever mults that are new.

But how is this worked for the IL station?

I assume it counts as two QSO's Or does it?  And then How does the IL 
station log it so it doesn't end up looking like a dupe? Because it may 
be worth two different easily logged QSO's for me.  but on His end it is 
two sontacts with me in WI with the same county and it for every 
practical reason looks like a dupe.  How does that work? And how does 
one make any logging program accept it and not call it a dupe?

Joe WB9SBD

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