[ILQSO] manufactured contacts

[Joe LeKostaj]

Hank,

I am just thinking of actions like persons A and B, working in 
concert, traveling to some location and then working each other from, 
say, 10 feet away and claiming credit. Or doing so while traveling in 
the same vehicle. I consider these actions to be against the spirit 
of the rules.

73,
Joe K9LY



At 4:58 PM -0400 9/23/08, Hank Greeb wrote:
>Joe:
>
>Your use of the term "manufactured contacts" brings up several questions.....
>
>For example, in practically every Field Day in which I've 
>participated during my 57 years of operation, we've always 
>encouraged club members who couldn't make it to the site to give us 
>a contact on as many bands and modes as they could muster.  And, 
>sometimes a member would come out for a picnic held in conjunction 
>with Field Day.  Then, as they member was going home from the 
>picnic, they'd work the club station from his/her mobile on several 
>modes/bands because she/he either wasn't interested in working at 
>the club station or couldn't spare the time.  Are these 
>"manufactured contacts"?
>
>Or, if I advertise on the ILQP and other reflectors that I'll be 
>operating from a certain location, and ask people to look for me, 
>are the resultant contacts "manufactured?"  If I do this for my 
>local club club reflector here in Michigan, specifically stating the 
>time(s) I expect to be on the bands/modes which have the highest 
>probability of having the correct skip - are the resultant contacts 
>"manufactured?"
>
>Or, if I operate from a four county line in South Central Illinois, 
>as I did a couple years ago, and a local ham helps me set up.  Then 
>he goes home and contacts me on two or three bands and modes where 
>he can hear me?  Are these contacts "manufactured?"  I never asked 
>this fellow for a contact - he just "knew" where I was (within a 
>mile of his home), and he decided to get on and work me.
>
>Or, if I'm spotted on a DX cluster, operating from a four county 
>line, and the result is 60 or more contacts (240 Q's in the log 
>book) in the following 30 minutes, are these manufactured contacts?
>
>Or, if I'm mobile, advertise my route and time, and work the same 
>bunch of stations repetitively from each county, are these 
>manufactured contacts?
>
>In each of the above, the "purist" might say the contacts are 
>"manufactured."  Others may differ in interpretation.
>
>73 de n8xx Hg
>
>Joe LeKostaj wrote:
>>To all,
>>
>>Kudos to K9DUR for stating that he will not try to get credit for 
>>Hardin County by working his wife with an HT from the other side of 
>>the campground. This is the spirit of the ILQP that I hope everyone 
>>will abide by.
>>
>>The folks who write the rules may not think of every possible 
>>"exploit" (to use a hacker term) that a person could use to roll up 
>>some easy Qs or mults. The rules committee is not paid enough (!!) 
>>to come up with a completely bulletproof set of rules that 
>>addresses every possible scenario. So, I feel it is up to the 
>>participants to play nice and avoid "manufactured" contacts.
>>
>>73 & have fun,
>>Joe K9LY
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