From n5ten at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 14 15:49:09 2007
From: n5ten at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Fri Dec 14 16:01:10 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop
Message-ID: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Here is a question I have for you mobile ILQP county
activators:  I have a laptop in the shack that has a
noisy wall-wart/switching PS-it puts noise on various
parts of 20m, and on 80, and probably other bands.  I
am now thinking of trying to run it off of the shack's
PS since that seems to be quiet.  Have you powered
your laptop while roving directly off of 12 volts?  Is
there any special things to look out for, or potential
problems in doing this.  Now I know that the laptop
might take something other than 12 volts,and I will
check into that first and find the proper voltage
adaptor.

I guess you have seen the results of the winter storms
hitting Oklahoma on TV.  I am happy to report that we
were far enough south to avoid the damage.  Our power
never went out, the antennas only got a little coating
of ice on them which melted after a day or so, and
there were only a few tree branches knocked down
around town.  We do have snow forecasted for today and
tomorrow, and it has started raining lightly out.
Still, compared to the rest of Oklahoma, those of us
in Lawton were extremely blessed!

73s John AA5JG


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From n8xx at arrl.org  Fri Dec 14 16:17:25 2007
From: n8xx at arrl.org (Hank Greeb)
Date: Fri Dec 14 16:30:08 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop
In-Reply-To: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4762F2E5.3030603@arrl.org>

My lap top computers use a 17 volt charger, they're powered from 3 3.7 
Volt Lithium Ion or Lithium polymer cells in series, which give 11.1 
volts, but the charging circuit seems to need 16 vols or so to run it.  
In the car I use a Rat Shack DC/DC converter to generate the 17 
volts.....  Both it, and the "wall wart" power supply are quiet on my 
laptop computer.  If either were noisy, I'd put them inside metal boxes 
and use filtering on the input/output rather than figuring out a unique 
power supply.

73 de n8xx Hg

John Geiger wrote:
> Here is a question I have for you mobile ILQP county activators:  I have a laptop in the shack that has a noisy wall-wart/switching PS-it puts noise on various parts of 20m, and on 80, and probably other bands.  I am now thinking of trying to run it off of the shack's PS since that seems to be quiet.  Have you powered your laptop while roving directly off of 12 volts?  Is there any special things to look out for, or potential problems in doing this.  Now I know that the laptop might take something other than 12 volts,and I will check into that first and find the proper voltage adaptor.
>
> I guess you have seen the results of the winter storms hitting Oklahoma on TV.  I am happy to report that we were far enough south to avoid the damage.  Our power never went out, the antennas only got a little coating of ice on them which melted after a day or so, and there were only a few tree branches knocked down around town.  We do have snow forecasted for today and tomorrow, and it has started raining lightly out. Still, compared to the rest of Oklahoma, those of us in Lawton were extremely blessed!
>
> 73s John AA5JG
From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Fri Dec 14 18:16:21 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Fri Dec 14 18:28:35 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop
In-Reply-To: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E93ECAC3@FOSS40.foss.net>

I am using an inverter to run mine, but it is noisy enough that I am
looking for a good alternative!

73, Jim N9JF

-----Original Message-----
From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:49 PM
To: ilqso@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop

Here is a question I have for you mobile ILQP county
activators:  I have a laptop in the shack that has a
noisy wall-wart/switching PS-it puts noise on various
parts of 20m, and on 80, and probably other bands.  I
am now thinking of trying to run it off of the shack's
PS since that seems to be quiet.  Have you powered
your laptop while roving directly off of 12 volts?  Is
there any special things to look out for, or potential
problems in doing this.  Now I know that the laptop
might take something other than 12 volts,and I will
check into that first and find the proper voltage
adaptor.

I guess you have seen the results of the winter storms
hitting Oklahoma on TV.  I am happy to report that we
were far enough south to avoid the damage.  Our power
never went out, the antennas only got a little coating
of ice on them which melted after a day or so, and
there were only a few tree branches knocked down
around town.  We do have snow forecasted for today and
tomorrow, and it has started raining lightly out.
Still, compared to the rest of Oklahoma, those of us
in Lawton were extremely blessed!

73s John AA5JG


 
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From w9ebk at warpnet.net  Fri Dec 14 18:38:15 2007
From: w9ebk at warpnet.net (Donald Pitchford)
Date: Fri Dec 14 18:50:29 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop
In-Reply-To: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <900637.81305.qm@web63303.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2144f70fe0a8d24f101f58603c93f6b6@warpnet.net>

I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop that powers directly from 12VDC. It 
is great as you can hook it to a deep cycle battery and go for the full 
24 hours of Field Day without any noise or worry. Unfortunately, it is 
a 486 and the keyboard is dying. I have been looking around and have 
not yet found a replacement. Either they need around 17 VDC, or the 
people selling them don't have a clue what it needs. The ads and boxes 
aren't much help either. The last I knew Dell was selling a series 
called (something like...) MOBIL. They are laptops designed 
specifically for use in mobile installations. They are extra rugged, 
and I assume powered directly by 12 VDC. I don't know their price 
range, either. Also, IBM makes a series of mini-desktops, that are 
about the size of a think laptop. We use them in some of the banking 
equipment that we sell and service. The price would be astronomical if 
you bought one from my employer, but they should be available on the 
open market. I am keeping my eye open for one of them so I can use it 
with a small monitor for APRS and Field Day logging.

If you MUST use an inverter, MCM sells one that is specifically 
designed for mobile laptop use. It is part # 28-10660. It takes 12 VDC 
in and boosts it to 18 to 24 VDC. I don't know how noisy it is. It 
couldn't be worse than the 12 VDC to 120 VAC inverters I have. One is a 
Triplite, the other a Pyramid. Both cause unacceptable noise levels in 
HF receivers.
Don, W9EBK


On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:49 PM, John Geiger wrote:

> Here is a question I have for you mobile ILQP county
> activators:  I have a laptop in the shack that has a
> noisy wall-wart/switching PS-it puts noise on various
> parts of 20m, and on 80, and probably other bands.  I
> am now thinking of trying to run it off of the shack's
> PS since that seems to be quiet.  Have you powered
> your laptop while roving directly off of 12 volts?  Is
> there any special things to look out for, or potential
> problems in doing this.  Now I know that the laptop
> might take something other than 12 volts,and I will
> check into that first and find the proper voltage
> adaptor.
>
> I guess you have seen the results of the winter storms
> hitting Oklahoma on TV.  I am happy to report that we
> were far enough south to avoid the damage.  Our power
> never went out, the antennas only got a little coating
> of ice on them which melted after a day or so, and
> there were only a few tree branches knocked down
> around town.  We do have snow forecasted for today and
> tomorrow, and it has started raining lightly out.
> Still, compared to the rest of Oklahoma, those of us
> in Lawton were extremely blessed!
>
> 73s John AA5JG

From kj9c at iquest.net  Sat Dec 15 09:51:55 2007
From: kj9c at iquest.net (Mel Crichton)
Date: Sat Dec 15 10:03:58 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop
References: <20071215090130.173AC859CDA@mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <013a01c83f2a$0990f3d0$6400a8c0@meldesktop>

I just went thru this.... I bought an old Compaq Armada cheap but it needed 16 volts minimum,  I tried a Tripp lite inverter and a cheap DC-DC adapter... both caused RFI in the IC-706 mobile.... The Tripp Lite was fine until I started the ignition....

I have been told that the expensive (100 bucks) Lind Electronics DC-DC adapter has no RFI..... but I choose to go with a laptop that will run on 12 volts... unfortunately, I did not find one using Win 98 before ILQP 2007, so I ran my 1999 Sony Vaio with Win XP on 12 volts and tried MM Logger while mobile... not a pretty experience, but the laptop was fine on its own 12 volt circuit (NOT with the rig!!!)... it could draw about 6 amps at times..

So I  just found a Panasonic Toughbook running Win 98 for 70 bucks... they use the 11 volt Panasonic Video Cam battery, and will run on 12 volts DC directly from the car supply without battery.... however, batteries don't charge much from the 12 volt supply, so my intent is to leave the battery OUT except when the ignition is off.... (i.e. push battery in, switch off ignition so the laptop does not crash, then pull battery out after igntion starts again).... The deep cycle marine battery is another good idea for QSO parties and Field Day...

There are MANY laptops (circa 1995-2000) that can run on 12 volts (or even 11 volts) but need 17v  or more to charge their batteries.... if you have a laptop, plug it into the cig lighter outlet, start it up, then pull the battery and see if it continues to run. Before you buy, look up the model number (Google works) and download the manual to get the battery spec.

Mel KJ9C
From k8bb at comcast.net  Sat Dec 15 13:22:11 2007
From: k8bb at comcast.net (k8bb@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Dec 15 13:34:24 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop
References: <20071215090130.173AC859CDA@mailman.qth.net>
	<013a01c83f2a$0990f3d0$6400a8c0@meldesktop>
Message-ID: <002901c83f47$69c427f0$6701a8c0@IBMD9D11941E0B>

I would recommend finding a laptop that will run OK on 12v directly (such as 
what Mel describes) and forget about charging while in use.

For mobile QP use, I use an old Compaq 486 (DOS - NA) that has a coaxial 
12VDC jack right on the back. I then zip-tie the connector to the little 
door over the connector cover to prevent it from getting pulled out, thus 
not needing any internal battery for anything. (Which is good, since the 
computer is probably 10+ years old and the internal battery was toast long 
ago.) This computer makes *no* noise and has proved reliable through several 
Michigan and Ohio QSO Parties, including a couple of first place finishes.

I also have similar experiences with some IBM 600E ThinkPads that I 
"inherited" several a few years ago. These computers run on 15-16VDC, but 
seem to be perfectly happy with the roughly 14v the truck produces when the 
engine is running, and produce no noise. Again, the connector is just a 
regular coaxial DC plug, so I zip-tie it to the connector cover door to 
prevent it from getting pulled out and have never had a problem. (I have not 
used this computer for logging, just for GPS navigation.)

Also, I have not used separate power sources. I have powered these laptops 
from separate (fused) cable runs directly to the Jeep battery, just like the 
radio gear.

73!
Don Chisholm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mel Crichton" <kj9c@iquest.net>
To: <ilqso@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ILQSO] Powering a laptop


I just went thru this.... I bought an old Compaq Armada cheap but it needed 
16 volts minimum,  I tried a Tripp lite inverter and a cheap DC-DC 
adapter... both caused RFI in the IC-706 mobile.... The Tripp Lite was fine 
until I started the ignition....

I have been told that the expensive (100 bucks) Lind Electronics DC-DC 
adapter has no RFI..... but I choose to go with a laptop that will run on 12 
volts... unfortunately, I did not find one using Win 98 before ILQP 2007, so 
I ran my 1999 Sony Vaio with Win XP on 12 volts and tried MM Logger while 
mobile... not a pretty experience, but the laptop was fine on its own 12 
volt circuit (NOT with the rig!!!)... it could draw about 6 amps at times..

So I  just found a Panasonic Toughbook running Win 98 for 70 bucks... they 
use the 11 volt Panasonic Video Cam battery, and will run on 12 volts DC 
directly from the car supply without battery.... however, batteries don't 
charge much from the 12 volt supply, so my intent is to leave the battery 
OUT except when the ignition is off.... (i.e. push battery in, switch off 
ignition so the laptop does not crash, then pull battery out after igntion 
starts again).... The deep cycle marine battery is another good idea for QSO 
parties and Field Day...

There are MANY laptops (circa 1995-2000) that can run on 12 volts (or even 
11 volts) but need 17v  or more to charge their batteries.... if you have a 
laptop, plug it into the cig lighter outlet, start it up, then pull the 
battery and see if it continues to run. Before you buy, look up the model 
number (Google works) and download the manual to get the battery spec.

Mel KJ9C
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From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Sat Dec 15 21:33:03 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Sat Dec 15 21:45:17 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] FW: Powering a laptop (John Geiger)
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E93ECAEA@FOSS40.foss.net>



-----Original Message-----
From: Bob K4MUT [mailto:k4mut@arrl.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:10 PM
To: James Funk
Subject: Powering a laptop (John Geiger)

Jim,
I tried to reply to John via the list, but qth.net rejected it. Could
you please forward to him.

I have some older IBM Thinkpads 600/600e and an Averatec. The IBM ac 
supply puts out 16v, and the Averatec puts out 19v, but I run them
directly from the vehicle aux plug (13+ volts with engine running). This
got rid of the inverter noise. When the voltage drops below about 12.8
volts, the thinkpad beeps and switches to internal battery.

Although the IBM wallwart puts out 16v, the IBM spec sheet says:
battery pack voltage (nominal): 10.8v
operating range: 7-17v

You might want to check the specs on your laptop. Service/maintenance 
manuals are sometimes available at the manufacturer's site, or the info 
you need about voltages may also be in the user manual.

Now to get rid of the gps noise. 

73,
BOB/k4mut

From nn9k at arrl.net  Fri Dec 28 07:56:06 2007
From: nn9k at arrl.net (Peter E. Beedlow)
Date: Fri Dec 28 07:57:35 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
Message-ID: <003a01c84951$02b7d5c0$6c01a8c0@bach>

Thanks WIRC for getting the scores tabulated and posted for the 2007 ILQ in
an extremely timely fashion. We all appreciate your efforts.

Happy New Year to the WIRC and it's members.

Pete, NN9K 


From n5ten at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 28 09:34:07 2007
From: n5ten at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Fri Dec 28 09:35:20 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
In-Reply-To: <003a01c84951$02b7d5c0$6c01a8c0@bach>
Message-ID: <747262.67256.qm@web63307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Wow, that is fast!  I wasn't expecting results for
another couple of months.  This must be the fastest I
have seen results from any contest I have entered. 
Great job guys!

73s John AA5JG
9th Place, outside IL


--- "Peter E. Beedlow" <nn9k@arrl.net> wrote:

> Thanks WIRC for getting the scores tabulated and
> posted for the 2007 ILQ in
> an extremely timely fashion. We all appreciate your
> efforts.
> 
> Happy New Year to the WIRC and it's members.
> 
> Pete, NN9K 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> ILQSO mailing list
> ILQSO@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ilqso
> ILQP webpage:
> http://www.w9awe.org/ILQP.html
> list administrator is Danny NG9R
> for list problems contact ng9r@arrl.net
> 



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From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Fri Dec 28 09:47:57 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Fri Dec 28 09:49:21 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
In-Reply-To: <747262.67256.qm@web63307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <003a01c84951$02b7d5c0$6c01a8c0@bach>
	<747262.67256.qm@web63307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A017@FOSS40.foss.net>

Lots of work by several people!  Thanks, NA9Q, NB9Q, NG9R, AB9DU, NM9C
!!!

73, Jim N9JF

-----Original Message-----
From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:34 AM
To: nn9k@arrl.net; Illinois QSO Party
Subject: Re: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores

Wow, that is fast!  I wasn't expecting results for
another couple of months.  This must be the fastest I
have seen results from any contest I have entered. 
Great job guys!

73s John AA5JG
9th Place, outside IL


--- "Peter E. Beedlow" <nn9k@arrl.net> wrote:

> Thanks WIRC for getting the scores tabulated and
> posted for the 2007 ILQ in
> an extremely timely fashion. We all appreciate your
> efforts.
> 
> Happy New Year to the WIRC and it's members.
> 
> Pete, NN9K 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> ILQSO mailing list
> ILQSO@mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ilqso
> ILQP webpage:
> http://www.w9awe.org/ILQP.html
> list administrator is Danny NG9R
> for list problems contact ng9r@arrl.net
> 



 
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From n5ten at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 28 10:22:49 2007
From: n5ten at yahoo.com (John Geiger)
Date: Fri Dec 28 10:24:02 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
In-Reply-To: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A017@FOSS40.foss.net>
Message-ID: <199627.90023.qm@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I was going to ask you how you do it Jim, since you
are always mobile!  Thanks for the recent counties on
the CHN.

73s John AA5JG

--- James Funk <jfunk@fossnorthamerica.com> wrote:

> Lots of work by several people!  Thanks, NA9Q, NB9Q,
> NG9R, AB9DU, NM9C
> !!!
> 
> 73, Jim N9JF
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> John Geiger
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:34 AM
> To: nn9k@arrl.net; Illinois QSO Party
> Subject: Re: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
> 
> Wow, that is fast!  I wasn't expecting results for
> another couple of months.  This must be the fastest
> I
> have seen results from any contest I have entered. 
> Great job guys!
> 
> 73s John AA5JG
> 9th Place, outside IL
> 
> 
> --- "Peter E. Beedlow" <nn9k@arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks WIRC for getting the scores tabulated and
> > posted for the 2007 ILQ in
> > an extremely timely fashion. We all appreciate
> your
> > efforts.
> > 
> > Happy New Year to the WIRC and it's members.
> > 
> > Pete, NN9K 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > ILQSO mailing list
> > ILQSO@mailman.qth.net
> > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ilqso
> > ILQP webpage:
> > http://www.w9awe.org/ILQP.html
> > list administrator is Danny NG9R
> > for list problems contact ng9r@arrl.net
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
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> ____________
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> 



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From n8xx at arrl.org  Fri Dec 28 10:59:05 2007
From: n8xx at arrl.org (Hank Greeb)
Date: Fri Dec 28 11:01:00 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
In-Reply-To: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A017@FOSS40.foss.net>
References: <003a01c84951$02b7d5c0$6c01a8c0@bach>	<747262.67256.qm@web63307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A017@FOSS40.foss.net>
Message-ID: <47751D49.6030108@arrl.org>


A very appropriate time for the scores to be out - Nice Christmas 
Present from the ILQSO folks.

Note that I didn't get too many folks telling me I was a dupe - even 
with NA9Q being active!

Happy New year!

73 de n8xx Hg  (Operating as N9Q during the 2007 ILQP)

James Funk wrote:
> Lots of work by several people!  Thanks, NA9Q, NB9Q, NG9R, AB9DU, NM9C
> !!!
>
> 73, Jim N9JF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Geiger
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:34 AM
> To: nn9k@arrl.net; Illinois QSO Party
> Subject: Re: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
>
> Wow, that is fast!  I wasn't expecting results for another couple of months.  This must be the fastest I have seen results from any contest I have entered. Great job guys!
>
> 73s John AA5JG
> 9th Place, outside IL
From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Fri Dec 28 20:46:45 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Fri Dec 28 20:48:06 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
In-Reply-To: <199627.90023.qm@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A017@FOSS40.foss.net>
	<199627.90023.qm@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A12E@FOSS40.foss.net>

I don't drive ALL night  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:23 AM
To: Illinois QSO Party
Subject: RE: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores

I was going to ask you how you do it Jim, since you
are always mobile!  Thanks for the recent counties on
the CHN.

73s John AA5JG

--- James Funk <jfunk@fossnorthamerica.com> wrote:

> Lots of work by several people!  Thanks, NA9Q, NB9Q,
> NG9R, AB9DU, NM9C
> !!!
> 
> 73, Jim N9JF
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> John Geiger
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:34 AM
> To: nn9k@arrl.net; Illinois QSO Party
> Subject: Re: [ILQSO] 2007 ILQP scores
> 
> Wow, that is fast!  I wasn't expecting results for
> another couple of months.  This must be the fastest
> I
> have seen results from any contest I have entered. 
> Great job guys!
> 
> 73s John AA5JG
> 9th Place, outside IL
> 
> 
> --- "Peter E. Beedlow" <nn9k@arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks WIRC for getting the scores tabulated and
> > posted for the 2007 ILQ in
> > an extremely timely fashion. We all appreciate
> your
> > efforts.
> > 
> > Happy New Year to the WIRC and it's members.
> > 
> > Pete, NN9K 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://www.w9awe.org/ILQP.html
> > list administrator is Danny NG9R
> > for list problems contact ng9r@arrl.net
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
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From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Sat Dec 29 03:01:19 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Sat Dec 29 03:02:43 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] caveat with logging software
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A13B@FOSS40.foss.net>

Hi All,

N8XX has done a bit of sleuthing regarding a log entry.  He had one
contact in his log submitted to ILQP with a QTH of "COOK" in the raw log
that got translated to "DX" in the Cabrillo file because "COOK" was
entered as the "S/P/C", not the county.  This was Hank's ONLY BUSTED
QSO, by the way, which is pretty remarkable.  I mention this because I
saw a LOT of these and can only assume something similar happened to the
rest of you when "DX" was present as the QTH for Illinois stations you
worked.

Just something else to worry about when using logging software....

After processing the logs, we have a laundry list of other things to
watch, but I'll compile those later....

Now, go have a great 2008!

73, Jim N9JF
From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Sat Dec 29 12:13:22 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Sat Dec 29 12:14:45 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] log checking
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A141@FOSS40.foss.net>

Greetings!

I've received a few inquiries regarding log checking and the fact that
the credited scores are not the same as the claimed scores.   I don't
mind providing details upon request.  Note that this is NOT an automated
process; I have to go through the logs and pull out the details.  I'm
willing to do so on an "as-time-permits" basis.

No one was penalized for unmarked duplicate contacts.  For busted calls
and exchanges, only the incorrect QSO was removed; there were no further
penalties assessed (unlike the major contests).  

There were many "Golden Logs" (no busted callsign or exchange) and
several that were VERY close.  In many cases, there were no score
reductions, yet the claimed score and the credited score are not the
same, simply because some logging programs do not compute the score
correctly for ILQP.

Here are the "Golden Logs":  (this is a BIG list....NICE JOB, troops!)

N9BIL/M (LARGEST IL MOBILE LOG WITH NO BUSTS)
N4VA	   (LARGEST NON-IL WITH NO BUSTS)
W0BH
K5UV
AA5JG
W8WVU
K5OT
K4BAI
K8MR
W1END
NG9R    (LARGEST IL PORTABLE LOG WITH NO BUSTS)
WB8JUI
K3TW
N8II
K3MQ
N9CHA
KD2MX
KF2O
W7GVE
K1TN
K8MM
NM2L
W8TM
N9BT
N9TO
CU2JT    (LARGEST DX LOG WITH NO BUSTS)
KK9DX
K5BZH
KB9LIE
K9LY
W2CVW
WQ9T
W9LO
WA4VAP
N9OH
N9WEW
KA3FZN
OM3DX
K9IUA		(LARGEST IL ROVER LOG WITH NO BUSTS)
W3AG
N4RS
NU7J
K9IJ
AH6EZ
K0RL
W4ZPR
KG9Z
KD9MS
WT9U
KB9YGD
W5QLF
WV7T
W9EEU
N3UA
N2KMA
W8TK
KG9JP
K9FE
N1NN
W7KAM
KU4A
DL6KVA
WB9CHY
WA5ZUP
PA3ARM
HA2MN
WU1B
WD9CNW
N8QE
SM6Z
K2BBQ



From nn9k at arrl.net  Mon Dec 31 13:44:25 2007
From: nn9k at arrl.net (Peter E. Beedlow)
Date: Mon Dec 31 13:45:59 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates
Message-ID: <000601c84bdd$2ae93000$6c01a8c0@bach>

Received mine in the mail this morning, VERY NICE! Thank you.

Pete, NN9K 

From jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com  Mon Dec 31 13:46:31 2007
From: jfunk at fossnorthamerica.com (James Funk)
Date: Mon Dec 31 13:48:06 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates
In-Reply-To: <000601c84bdd$2ae93000$6c01a8c0@bach>
References: <000601c84bdd$2ae93000$6c01a8c0@bach>
Message-ID: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A185@FOSS40.foss.net>

The certificates are an AB9DU creation.  Bob really goes all-out!

Glad you like it.

73, Jim N9JF

-----Original Message-----
From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter E. Beedlow
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:44 PM
To: ILQSO@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates

Received mine in the mail this morning, VERY NICE! Thank you.

Pete, NN9K 

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From n8xx at arrl.org  Mon Dec 31 15:27:07 2007
From: n8xx at arrl.org (Hank Greeb)
Date: Mon Dec 31 15:29:30 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates
In-Reply-To: <25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A185@FOSS40.foss.net>
References: <000601c84bdd$2ae93000$6c01a8c0@bach>
	<25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A185@FOSS40.foss.net>
Message-ID: <4779509B.5060306@arrl.org>

Tnx 4 the nice 5th place certificate for county line portable! 

73 de n8xx Hg

James Funk wrote:
> The certificates are an AB9DU creation.  Bob really goes all-out!
>
> Glad you like it.
>
> 73, Jim N9JF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter E. Beedlow
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:44 PM
> To: ILQSO@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates
>
> Received mine in the mail this morning, VERY NICE! Thank you.
>
> Pete, NN9K 
>   
From k4ub at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 31 18:43:03 2007
From: k4ub at bellsouth.net (k4ub)
Date: Mon Dec 31 18:44:05 2007
Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates
In-Reply-To: <4779509B.5060306@arrl.org>
References: <000601c84bdd$2ae93000$6c01a8c0@bach>	<25550FE81EE6584BAE729C535FA3A6E941A185@FOSS40.foss.net>
	<4779509B.5060306@arrl.org>
Message-ID: <001101c84c06$e315a360$a940ea20$@net>

Got mine today also.
THANKS!
John K4UB

-----Original Message-----
From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net [mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Hank Greeb
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:27 PM
To: Illinois QSO Party
Subject: Re: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates

Tnx 4 the nice 5th place certificate for county line portable! 

73 de n8xx Hg

James Funk wrote:
> The certificates are an AB9DU creation.  Bob really goes all-out!
>
> Glad you like it.
>
> 73, Jim N9JF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:ilqso-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter E. Beedlow
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:44 PM
> To: ILQSO@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [ILQSO] ILQP Certificates
>
> Received mine in the mail this morning, VERY NICE! Thank you.
>
> Pete, NN9K 
>   
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