[ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???

Wed May 21 23:17:23 EDT 2008

Well - none of that applies here.  Daily net on 6m FM every morning 52.540.  Not
just frustrated TECHS either.  Careful how you apply YOUR situation GLOBALLY.  

Gee - do you think they might include a choice of roofing filters too?

Mike - KD9KC.
El Paso, Tx.
DM61rt

Molon labe. [mo-lone lah-veh] Google it...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Crawford
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:56 PM
> To: ICOM Reflector
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???
> 
> Most of the activity on 6m is SSB. FM is populated by folks 
> with one-or two-channel converted two-way radios.And 4 
> channels of repeater frequencies plus another 4 or 5 simplex 
> channels is not worth it.Most 10m FM operation is by remote 
> base linked to 2m for the folks that can't( or won't) upgrade 
> their license. Looking forward to more info on the 7200.
>                                               Joe W4AAB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary" <n6lrv at cox.net>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???
> 
> 
> > This can not be the case. The 7200 like so many radios 
> these days is 
> > software defined. The inclusion of FM and signaling would have 
> > resulted in the addition of very little hardware if any at all. To 
> > produce another multimode/multiband transceiver for 
> amateurs and not 
> > include FM & signaling is ridiculously stupid. How and why their 
> > marketing people would let this get by is incomprehensible. 
> The recent 
> > increases in 6m activity on all modes is in large part due to these 
> > multiband/multimode radios. The 7200 would sell much better with it 
> > than without. What's really ridiculous is that they aren't 
> willing to 
> > speak honestly on the subject.
> > When I asked an Icom
> > America rep at Dayton about this he shrugged his shoulders 
> and said "I 
> > don't know why". Simply unacceptable. I'm very disappointed in Icom 
> > again.
> > Gary
> > N6LRV
> >
> > D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
> >
> >> If, as Adam has suggested may be possible, the FM 
> capability had been 
> >> omitted by Icom's engineers to provide a far more capable HF 
> >> performance in conditions of intense RF density, then I'd say that 
> >> the omission of a mode that might interest less than one 
> tenth of a 
> >> percent of operators was a superb decision!
> >>
> >> 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
> >> Oklahoma City, OK
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________________________
> >>
> >> > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:55:13 -0700
> >> > From: ve7bgp at shaw.ca
> >> > Subject: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???
> >> > To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> >> >
> >> > Hello Icom !!
> >> >
> >> > Wake-up Where's FM on the new IC-7200? I was shocked by the 
> >> > omission of that mode. FM was missing on the IC-718. 
> Prior to the 
> >> > IC-718 every other Icom introduced in the past 1/4 
> Century had FM 
> >> > mode. Even the venerable old IC-740 had FM as a option. 
> Available 
> >> > as a option also in the IC-745 and low end Rigs 
> IC-725-707. Higher 
> >> > end rigs and the great old IC-735 all had FM Mode standard 
> >> > equipment. What good is having coverage on 6 Meters and 
> completely 
> >> > MISS THE BOAT on the new IC-7200 by leaving off the FM 
> Mode? That 
> >> > 7200 will be Icom's First Rig to have 6 Meters and leave off FM 
> >> > Mode. Come On ICOM Even your old IC-726 & IC-728 early
> >> > HF/6
> >> > Meter rigs had FM standard equipment! Even the Venerable 
> Old Yaesu 
> >> > FT-757GX included FM as Standard Equipment and that Classic 
> >> > Celebrates it's 25th Birthday this Month. I think it was 
> introduced 
> >> > at Dayton '83 and first Advertised in June '83 Issue of TCA Mag. 
> >> > Canada's equivalent of QST Mag. at that time put out by 
> CARF. The 
> >> > "New" IC-7200 is not gonna create much excitement, and 
> is not very 
> >> > New by leaving off the Important *FM mode for 6 Meter operators. 
> >> > *I'm afraid Yaesu these days are offering Hams more than Icom in 
> >> > the lower end of rigs. I thought that new IC-7200 was something 
> >> > exciting when I first saw the Photos at the Tokyo Ham Fair event 
> >> > last August. That IC-718 is now getting Stale on the 
> market is now 
> >> > outgunned with Yaesu's FT-450 and FT-897D offerings 
> doing so well 
> >> > in the "Affordable" market. That new FT-950 Yaesu 
> introduced at the 
> >> > same time as the IC-7200 was Talked About and is still 
> only "Talked 
> >> > About", was on the Dealers Shelves and in shacks 6 weeks weeks 
> >> > later. Was the IC-7200 shown at Dayton even working 
> Yet??? or just 
> >> > a stagnant display Item! That FT-950 is giving the now getting 
> >> > stale "Trouble Prone" TX and Display Backlight failure's Galore 
> >> > IC-746Pro a good run for It's Money. So far no major Reliability 
> >> > Problems have cropped up on the new FT-950 like the Dead 
> TX issue of the IC-746 Pro.
> >> > I
> >> > am afraid Yaesu today has become No 1 in the marketplace.
> >> > 73
> >> > Gerry VE7BGP
> >> >
> >> > Alex wrote:
> >> >
> >> > -------------- Original message from Gary : --------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I was very disappointed by the lack of FM and signalling 
> >> >> (according to the brochure). I found the control head 
> easy to use 
> >> >> and had every hope of buying a couple 7200's this year 
> but without 
> >> >> FM and signalling I may not buy at all. What was Icom thinking?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sounds like it's going to be a replacement for the 
> IC-718 (and the
> >> > IC-78 probably).
> >> > I think that the omission of FM is a good thing because 
> then you  
> >> > don't have to design a rig that has to pass a wide FM signal 
> >> > through its filters. But for your application that may 
> indeed not 
> >> > be a good thing.
> >> >
> >> > "What, no FM?" Now that is truly an omission of a 
> feature to pack 
> >> > more performance in a small package. ;-)
> >> >
> >> > 73,
> >> > --Alex KR1ST
> >> > http://www.kr1st.com
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