[ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???

Wed May 21 17:04:39 EDT 2008

It would take beeing able to switch in 15kHz filters in three MF's instead 
of the three 3kHz one. I guess not more than 5% are wiling to pay for it 
even if it can be made at a price.

For me 10m and 6m FM is monitoring a channel. To buy a 7200 and let i stay 
on one FM-channel or possibly scan a few 10 and 6m channels I think i a 
waste. A Yaesu FT-8900 or a Alinco DR-03T together with a DR-06 are 
suitable. My choice is a DR-03T and a 200W transitorised PA for 10m. In the 
car I havve a FT-8900.

I am dissapointed that the IC-2200H is not offererd in 10m version.

Otherwise I think the 746Pro has all that you wanted. Probably just a bit 
more expecive than the 7200.

73 de Anders

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <n6lrv at cox.net>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???

> This can not be the case. The 7200 like so many radios these days is 
> software defined. The
> inclusion of FM and signaling would have resulted in the addition of very 
> little hardware if any
> at all. To produce another multimode/multiband transceiver for amateurs 
> and not include FM &
> signaling is ridiculously stupid. How and why their marketing people would 
> let this get by is
> incomprehensible. The recent increases in 6m activity on all modes is in 
> large part due to these
> multiband/multimode radios. The 7200 would sell much better with it than 
> without. What's really
> ridiculous is that they aren't willing to speak honestly on the subject. 
> When I asked an Icom
> America rep at Dayton about this he shrugged his shoulders and said "I 
> don't know why". Simply
> unacceptable. I'm very disappointed in Icom again.
> Gary
> N6LRV
>
> D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
>> If, as Adam has suggested may be possible, the FM capability
>> had been omitted by Icom's engineers to provide a far more
>> capable HF performance in conditions of intense RF density,
>> then I'd say that the omission of a mode that might interest
>> less than one tenth of a percent of operators was a superb
>> decision!
>>
>> 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
>> Oklahoma City, OK
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:55:13 -0700
>> > From: ve7bgp at shaw.ca
>> > Subject: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???
>> > To: icom at mailman.qth.net
>> >
>> > Hello Icom !!
>> >
>> > Wake-up Where's FM on the new IC-7200? I was shocked by the omission of
>> > that mode. FM was missing on the IC-718. Prior to the IC-718 every 
>> > other
>> > Icom introduced in the past 1/4 Century had FM mode. Even the venerable
>> > old IC-740 had FM as a option. Available as a option also in the IC-745
>> > and low end Rigs IC-725-707. Higher end rigs and the great old IC-735
>> > all had FM Mode standard equipment. What good is having coverage on 6
>> > Meters and completely MISS THE BOAT on the new IC-7200 by leaving off
>> > the FM Mode? That 7200 will be Icom's First Rig to have 6 Meters and
>> > leave off FM Mode. Come On ICOM Even your old IC-726 & IC-728 early 
>> > HF/6
>> > Meter rigs had FM standard equipment! Even the Venerable Old Yaesu
>> > FT-757GX included FM as Standard Equipment and that Classic Celebrates
>> > it's 25th Birthday this Month. I think it was introduced at Dayton '83
>> > and first Advertised in June '83 Issue of TCA Mag. Canada's equivalent
>> > of QST Mag. at that time put out by CARF. The "New" IC-7200 is not 
>> > gonna
>> > create much excitement, and is not very New by leaving off the 
>> > Important
>> > *FM mode for 6 Meter operators. *I'm afraid Yaesu these days are
>> > offering Hams more than Icom in the lower end of rigs. I thought that
>> > new IC-7200 was something exciting when I first saw the Photos at the
>> > Tokyo Ham Fair event last August. That IC-718 is now getting Stale on
>> > the market is now outgunned with Yaesu's FT-450 and FT-897D offerings
>> > doing so well in the "Affordable" market. That new FT-950 Yaesu
>> > introduced at the same time as the IC-7200 was Talked About and is 
>> > still
>> > only "Talked About", was on the Dealers Shelves and in shacks 6 weeks
>> > weeks later. Was the IC-7200 shown at Dayton even working Yet??? or 
>> > just
>> > a stagnant display Item! That FT-950 is giving the now getting stale
>> > "Trouble Prone" TX and Display Backlight failure's Galore IC-746Pro a
>> > good run for It's Money. So far no major Reliability Problems have
>> > cropped up on the new FT-950 like the Dead TX issue of the IC-746 Pro. 
>> > I
>> > am afraid Yaesu today has become No 1 in the marketplace.
>> > 73
>> > Gerry VE7BGP
>> >
>> > Alex wrote:
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message from Gary : --------------
>> >
>> >
>> >> I was very disappointed by the lack of
>> >> FM and signalling (according to the brochure). I found the control 
>> >> head easy to
>> >> use and had every hope of buying a couple 7200's this year but without 
>> >> FM and
>> >> signalling I may not buy at all. What was Icom thinking?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Sounds like it's going to be a replacement for the IC-718 (and the 
>> > IC-78 probably).
>> > I think that the omission of FM is a good thing because then you  don't 
>> > have to design
>> > a rig that has to pass a wide FM signal through its filters. But for 
>> > your application that
>> > may indeed not be a good thing.
>> >
>> > "What, no FM?" Now that is truly an omission of a feature to pack more 
>> > performance
>> > in a small package. ;-)
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > --Alex KR1ST
>> > http://www.kr1st.com
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