[ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???

[Gary]

Perhaps in your area but no in mine. There are networks of 6m repeaters and FM
users throughout Southern California and Texas for example.
Gary
N6LRV

John Geiger wrote:

> I am sorry to disagree with one statement, but I don't believe that many
> people are NOT going to buy a 7200 just because it doesn't contain FM.
> Besides, there just isn't that much FM activity on 6m.  98% of it is on SSB.
> I have made a few 6 meter FM QSOs, but not that many.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary" <n6lrv at cox.net>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???
>
> > This can not be the case. The 7200 like so many radios these days is
> software defined. The
> > inclusion of FM and signaling would have resulted in the addition of very
> little hardware if any
> > at all. To produce another multimode/multiband transceiver for amateurs
> and not include FM &
> > signaling is ridiculously stupid. How and why their marketing people would
> let this get by is
> > incomprehensible. The recent increases in 6m activity on all modes is in
> large part due to these
> > multiband/multimode radios. The 7200 would sell much better with it than
> without. What's really
> > ridiculous is that they aren't willing to speak honestly on the subject.
> When I asked an Icom
> > America rep at Dayton about this he shrugged his shoulders and said "I
> don't know why". Simply
> > unacceptable. I'm very disappointed in Icom again.
> > Gary
> > N6LRV
> >
> > D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
> >
> > > If, as Adam has suggested may be possible, the FM capability
> > > had been omitted by Icom's engineers to provide a far more
> > > capable HF performance in conditions of intense RF density,
> > > then I'd say that the omission of a mode that might interest
> > > less than one tenth of a percent of operators was a superb
> > > decision!
> > >
> > > 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
> > > Oklahoma City, OK
> > >
> > >
> > > ___________________________________
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:55:13 -0700
> > > > From: ve7bgp at shaw.ca
> > > > Subject: [ICOM] Icom 7200 at Dayton Big Disappointment???
> > > > To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> > > >
> > > > Hello Icom !!
> > > >
> > > > Wake-up Where's FM on the new IC-7200? I was shocked by the omission
> of
> > > > that mode. FM was missing on the IC-718. Prior to the IC-718 every
> other
> > > > Icom introduced in the past 1/4 Century had FM mode. Even the
> venerable
> > > > old IC-740 had FM as a option. Available as a option also in the
> IC-745
> > > > and low end Rigs IC-725-707. Higher end rigs and the great old IC-735
> > > > all had FM Mode standard equipment. What good is having coverage on 6
> > > > Meters and completely MISS THE BOAT on the new IC-7200 by leaving off
> > > > the FM Mode? That 7200 will be Icom's First Rig to have 6 Meters and
> > > > leave off FM Mode. Come On ICOM Even your old IC-726 & IC-728 early
> HF/6
> > > > Meter rigs had FM standard equipment! Even the Venerable Old Yaesu
> > > > FT-757GX included FM as Standard Equipment and that Classic Celebrates
> > > > it's 25th Birthday this Month. I think it was introduced at Dayton '83
> > > > and first Advertised in June '83 Issue of TCA Mag. Canada's equivalent
> > > > of QST Mag. at that time put out by CARF. The "New" IC-7200 is not
> gonna
> > > > create much excitement, and is not very New by leaving off the
> Important
> > > > *FM mode for 6 Meter operators. *I'm afraid Yaesu these days are
> > > > offering Hams more than Icom in the lower end of rigs. I thought that
> > > > new IC-7200 was something exciting when I first saw the Photos at the
> > > > Tokyo Ham Fair event last August. That IC-718 is now getting Stale on
> > > > the market is now outgunned with Yaesu's FT-450 and FT-897D offerings
> > > > doing so well in the "Affordable" market. That new FT-950 Yaesu
> > > > introduced at the same time as the IC-7200 was Talked About and is
> still
> > > > only "Talked About", was on the Dealers Shelves and in shacks 6 weeks
> > > > weeks later. Was the IC-7200 shown at Dayton even working Yet??? or
> just
> > > > a stagnant display Item! That FT-950 is giving the now getting stale
> > > > "Trouble Prone" TX and Display Backlight failure's Galore IC-746Pro a
> > > > good run for It's Money. So far no major Reliability Problems have
> > > > cropped up on the new FT-950 like the Dead TX issue of the IC-746 Pro.
> I
> > > > am afraid Yaesu today has become No 1 in the marketplace.
> > > > 73
> > > > Gerry VE7BGP
> > > >
> > > > Alex wrote:
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message from Gary : --------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I was very disappointed by the lack of
> > > >> FM and signalling (according to the brochure). I found the control
> head easy to
> > > >> use and had every hope of buying a couple 7200's this year but
> without FM and
> > > >> signalling I may not buy at all. What was Icom thinking?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like it's going to be a replacement for the IC-718 (and the
> IC-78 probably).
> > > > I think that the omission of FM is a good thing because then you
> don't have to design
> > > > a rig that has to pass a wide FM signal through its filters. But for
> your application that
> > > > may indeed not be a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > "What, no FM?" Now that is truly an omission of a feature to pack more
> performance
> > > > in a small package. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > --Alex KR1ST
> > > > http://www.kr1st.com
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