[ICOM] PRO III

[Ken Kinyon]

Hi,
Don't you guys have a MARS/CAP mailing list?   I spent enough time in the
military to know that anything they are involved in is going to be mostly AFU. I
don't need to read all this.  I am involved in Amateur radio.
;<)
73,
Ken W7TS

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>[mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of David Nagel
>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 13:25
>To: ICOM Reflector
>Subject: RE: [ICOM] PRO III
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>Adam Farson <farson at shaw.ca> wrote: Hi Dave,
>
>I live "north of the border", so none of this affects me. But it seems that
>the new NTIA specs are much more stringent than ITU-R Recommendation
>SM328-10 (Spectra and Bandwidth of Emissions). I shall have to look into
>this when time permits. For example: It is interesting that the IC-M802,
>which is fully compliant with FCC Part 90 and ITU-R, is now no longer
>NTIA-compliant.
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>My supposition as to the requirements is that NTIA has to put 2KG in a
>1KG bag due to Congress selling off government spectrum.
>As to NTIA being more stringent than the ITU, they can.
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>I have some additional comments:
>
>1. Surely, hams who are also MARS or CAP R/O's will not necessarily dispose
>of their amateur HF transceivers, as they can still use these on the amateur
>bands.
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>No one has said that. I have 5 HF radios that I used for CAP. Only one
>is currently usable and that is at 5 watts output.
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>2. I tend to agree with Mac's observation that many MARS/CAP and USCGA
>members will "vote with their feet" on this change.
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>They will be missed but remember they are volunteers not inducted
>members and can come and go as they please.
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>3. Perhaps the motive is something other than spectrum refarming. To my
>knowledge, there has not been any spectrum auction activity in the bands
>below 30 MHz. Due to the potential impact on international allocations,
>reassignment of HF spectrum is not all that simple.
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>Whether or not the NTIA is still bound to enforce these requirements
>as set by Congress
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>To get back on topic: A recent check on major dealers' used-equipment pages
>did not turn up a single used 756Pro3.
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>I'd still like one but can't afford one, even a used one. HI HI.
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>Cheers for now, 73,
>Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
>Behalf Of David Nagel
>Sent: 05 March 2007 06:27
>To: ICOM Reflector
>Subject: RE: [ICOM] PRO III
>
>Adam;
>
>If you go to < https://ntc.cap.af.mil/comm/equipment/equipment.cfm > you can
>view all the compliant radios useable in CAP and the reason for the
>noncompliance of the formerly compliant ones.
>.
>Basically the change that killed ham radio in CAP was the "TX unwanted
>emissions".
>The new specification is: 43+10log(Px) or 5 watts = 49.98dB, 50 w = 59.98dB,
>100 w = 63dB, 125 w = 63.9dB
>
>Icom specifies 40dB at 100 watts. However if you limit the TX to 5 watts the
>radio is in compliance. The limitation is most likely of no consequence but
>still a limitation and places the radios in the noncompliant box.
>
>If you are in CAP you will have to wait until next year (2008) when e are
>scheduled to receive Motorola Micom II HF stations in quantity. Until then
>good luck.
>
>Dave Nagel
>INWG/Group North DC
>RF 41
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>Adam Farson  wrote: Hi Dave,
>
>What was the nature of the spec change?
>
>Cheers for now, 73,
>Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
>Behalf Of David Nagel
>Sent: 04 March 2007 19:35
>To: ICOM Reflector
>Subject: Re: [ICOM] PRO III
>
>Bob;
>
>A lot of the rigs most likely were used in CAP/MARS service. A recent change
>in specifications by NTIA removed almost all ham rigs from use by those
>groups. About the only rig still valid is the Yeasu FT-817/ND. Then only
>because they are 5 watt rigs.
>
>Dave WD9BDZ
>
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>AD5VJ  Bob  wrote: Why am I seeing so many ProIII's up
>for sale and/or trade. Is Icom coming out with a new rig I am not aware of?
>
>  73 fer nw es gud DX,
>QSL VIA: BUR, LotW, e-QSL
>Bob AD5VJ
>Old calls: WY5L/KH3-KE5CTY-N5IET
>http://www.ad5vj.com/
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>FISTS: # 12637, SKCC# 2369
>10X# 37210, FP#-1141
>SMIRK#-5177, RARS #-149
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