[ICOM] Re:Icom 735 antenna tuner controller
Leon
leonardp14 at cox.net
Sat Jun 11 17:50:36 EDT 2005
Thanks all for the info on the controller
Now if I could only find it
I had it in the back room but things got moved around
Would like to sell it
Leon,
WA7ZXZ
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> 1. PW1 ATU operation when powered down. (Adam Farson)
> 2. Icom 735 auto antenna unit (Leon)
> 3. Icom 735 antenna tuner (Leon)
> 4. Want: Interface Calble OPC-478 (Boyd)
> 5. Re: Steppir with ICOM radios (Jerry K3BZ)
> 6. Re: ICOM marine/ham radios (Geo. Brooks, N7HPE)
> 7. Re: ICOM marine/ham radios (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604)
> 8. RE: ICOM marine/ham radios (Gary Fiber)
> 9. Re: ICOM marine/ham radios (Gary Fiber)
> 10. RE: Icom 735 auto antenna unit (J. Coote)
> 11. Re: ICOM marine/ham radios (David J. Ring, Jr.)
> 12. Re: ICOM marine/ham radios (Gary Fiber)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:38:37 -0700
> From: Adam Farson <farson at shaw.ca>
> Subject: [ICOM] PW1 ATU operation when powered down.
> To: Icom Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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> Here is a correction to my previous posting on this topic (apologies all
> around.)
>
> When the main PSU is off, the ATU bypass relays (RL1 and RL2, C-NET
Board)
> release and simply bypass the ATU altogether. The ATU will operate only if
> the main PSU is on, whether the PA stage is on-line or in standby. 60W
> minimum drive is required for correct ATU operation.
>
> Cheers for now, 73,
> Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:25:33 -0700
> From: "Leon" <leonardp14 at cox.net>
> Subject: [ICOM] Icom 735 auto antenna unit
> To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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> I used to have an Icom735 and had the Icom AH3 (I think) auto antenna
tuner
>
> With a unit that went between the 735 and antenna tuner 735 needed this
unit to run the antenna tuner
>
> Was wondering what the Icom called this unit
>
> I still have it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:42:59 -0700
> From: "Leon" <leonardp14 at cox.net>
> Subject: [ICOM] Icom 735 antenna tuner
> To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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> I found it its called the controller.
>
> Leon
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:52:59 -0700
> From: Boyd <snowbird at direcway.com>
> Subject: [ICOM] Want: Interface Calble OPC-478
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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> I am looking for a Interface Cable for the R-5, R-10 ect. It is a
> Model # OPC-478
>
> Thanks,
> Boyd W6DSB
>
> Reply to: snowbird at direcway.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:19:45 -0400
> From: "Jerry K3BZ" <k3bz at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Steppir with ICOM radios
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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> Yep, the SteppIR controllers... verticals and yagis.... al work well with
> the ICONM interface. I'm using a 3L with a 756ProII... works perfectly.
> 73, Jerry K3BZ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Merrill" <john.merrill at wivb.com>
> To: "ICOM" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:11 PM
> Subject: [ICOM] Steppir with ICOM radios
>
>
> > Anyone out there using a Steppir antenna interfaced to an ICOM radio?
> > Working ok? I'm thinking of getting the BigIR vertical.
> >
> > 73,
> > John N1JM
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:21:56 -0700
> From: "Geo. Brooks, N7HPE" <geo.brooks at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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> I am not commenting on the legal aspects one way or another but I recently
> had an opportunity to buy an IC-M710 with the ham option factory
installed.
> As I researched the utility of this radio for ham operation I talked to
> several users who advised against it because of the very cumbersome
details
> of operation for ham use. The radio does not have a VFO and freqencies
must
> be entered by keyboard (if not in memory.) Going up or down 5 takes
> forever. I did not purchase it for my boat.
>
> I have been told but have not personally confirmed that the newer IC-M802
> resolves that issue.
>
> I do have an IC-706MKII(G)/AH-2 on the boat, this radio is not modified.
>
> 73, George, N7HPE
> My boat's position: http://map.findu.com/n7hpe-8
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:33:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 <faunt at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <200506111933.j5BJX4h25314 at panix3.panix.com>
>
>
> I could be wrong but, I believe this is true only if the marine HF is
> REQUIRED for SOLAS. If the marine HF is not required, as is the case
> for most yachts, then a shared radio is acceptable, I've been told.
>
> Take a look at http://hfradio.com. and get in touch with Don, who
> sells radios set up for just this. He's also a very active amateur.
>
> I'm not on the inside of this, but have looked at it a bit.
>
> 73, doug
>
> From: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:19:32 -0400
>
> Jerry,
>
> Your correct - except here's the bad news - FCC regulations require the
> "amateur radio" and the "marine radio" to be two separate
installations -
> which can share the (1) power supply and (2) antenna. No matter how
you
> slice it, you can't make a dual radio except if it completely separate.
> Separate but occupying the same box would be an interesting argument
though.
> However it would mean you had two independant transmitters and two
> independant receivers in one box.
>
> 73
>
> David N1EA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Flanders" <jeflanders at comcast.net>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
>
>
> To be "completely legal", as you intend, you probably need two separate
> radios (at least, in the USA). Modding the M710 as Dick suggests allows
its
> legal use on the ham bands by hams, but it would no longer be legal for
> marine freqs (mods would kill the type acceptance approval). I think
you
> can't do it with one radio unless some mfr actually markets a legal
> dual-purpose radio.
>
> Jerry W4UK
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:17:37 -0700
> From: Gary Fiber <gfiber at comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050611130849.020b16a0 at mail.comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Adam,
>
> As I remember there were some timing differences between the amateur and
> marine tuners. I ran a " converted " AT-120 for quite some time mobile. I
> had to remove a resistor and cap and disable a chip, not the micro but
> another that was in the AT-120. Then it worked fine with the IC-706MKII.
> Not doing the modification would not allow the tuner to turn off with the
> tune button otherwise it worked just fine. One I modified the tuner it
> worked as the AH-2 / 3 / 4 would but it would tune from 80 to 10 meters on
> an 8 foot whip. Not real efficient but I was on the air.
>
> The AH-3 should work with the M-710 just fine so far as I remember.
>
> The M-710 works wonderfully in the amateur bands and is accurate to 20 Hz
> per FCC Part 80 to end rules requires the marine ssb to be. Thats where
the
> FCC gets the converted amateur rigs most can't hold the 20Hz specification
> and the FCC gets many for being off frequency. Then you have to present
> documents to the FCC you had the radio repaired by a licensed technician
> or face a fine so you basically give yourself up.when you make that
report.
> Unless the licensed tech will provide false documents. Not many would do
> that I sure would not, would not want to lay my GROL on the line.
>
> The only difficulty is the programming as it only operates from memory
> channels and you have to program both the transmit and receive frequency
in
> even if they are the same as is generally the case.
>
> Gary K8IZ
>
> >As I recall, the AT-120 and AT-130 couplers are fairly similar to the
AH-3,
> >and use the same control protocol from the radio set. Do you know whether
an
> >AH-3 will work with the IC-M710? I suspect it probably will, but as I do
not
> >have access to either piece of gear, I cannot verify my hunch.
> >Cheers for now, 73,
> >Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>
> Gary Fiber K8IZ
> GROL PG-19-6691
> Washington State Resident
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:23:02 -0700
> From: Gary Fiber <gfiber at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050611131858.02124600 at mail.comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Last I knew Doug you are correct. A pleasure vessel can do most anything
> with the marine ssb, operate amateur or marine. A vessel for hire is where
> you need two stations to operate on the Marine SSB and Amateur radio bands
> due to SOLAS. For those who don't know SOLAS is Safety Of Life At Sea. Of
> course Great Lakes and inland waterway rules are different.
>
> Gary K8IZ
>
> >I could be wrong but, I believe this is true only if the marine HF is
> >REQUIRED for SOLAS. If the marine HF is not required, as is the case
> >for most yachts, then a shared radio is acceptable, I've been told.
> >Take a look at http://hfradio.com. and get in touch with Don, who
> >sells radios set up for just this. He's also a very active amateur.
> >I'm not on the inside of this, but have looked at it a bit.
> >73, doug
>
> Gary Fiber K8IZ
> GROL PG-19-6691
> Washington State Resident
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:17:21 -0700
> From: "J. Coote" <TSCM at jps.net>
> Subject: RE: [ICOM] Icom 735 auto antenna unit
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <OCEJKAMADJMKIEKGMBMDGEHICJAA.TSCM at jps.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I think it was called the controller.
> BTW- the AH2 wire antenna tuner would work with IC-728 (Maybe some other
> Icoms)
> without the need of the controller.
> Jay
> AAR9QM/W6CJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Leon
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:26 AM
> To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [ICOM] Icom 735 auto antenna unit
>
>
> I used to have an Icom735 and had the Icom AH3 (I think) auto antenna
tuner
>
> With a unit that went between the 735 and antenna tuner 735 needed this
> unit to run the antenna tuner
>
> Was wondering what the Icom called this unit
>
> I still have it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leon
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:27:20 -0400
> From: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <027001c56ec4$018a8db0$06c707cf at n1eakb0rqnicu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sorry, Doug. Good try, but the regulations are regulations! If the
station
> is licensed, it is subject to the very same regulations.
>
> I've had people say that it doesn't qualify - because it is a pleasure
> craft! Can you believe that? Next we will be having separate categories
> for fishing boats, tankers, bulkers, container ships - when will the list
> end. It doesn't: stations on marine vessels - both voluntary equipped
and
> those equipped by law - are subject to type approval of part 80. Small
> vessels are exempt from licensing on vhf, but all hf equipped stations are
> subject to the FCC rules and regulations - and those of ITU - including
> requirement of a GROL or higher license for maintainance.
>
> Of course the telling line is that the USCG has abandoned voluntary
> stations - those are the ones on pleasure craft and the FCC now longer
> (since it moved out of the ports) does radio inspections - except when it
> wants to. The FCC has bowed out of the radio field - in marine - but
> retains the authority. A bit strange - but this is Washington, DC.
>
> 73
>
> David N1EA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604" <faunt at panix.com>
> To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
>
>
>
> I could be wrong but, I believe this is true only if the marine HF is
> REQUIRED for SOLAS. If the marine HF is not required, as is the case
> for most yachts, then a shared radio is acceptable, I've been told.
>
> Take a look at http://hfradio.com. and get in touch with Don, who
> sells radios set up for just this. He's also a very active amateur.
>
> I'm not on the inside of this, but have looked at it a bit.
>
> 73, doug
>
> From: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:19:32 -0400
>
> Jerry,
>
> Your correct - except here's the bad news - FCC regulations require the
> "amateur radio" and the "marine radio" to be two separate
installations -
> which can share the (1) power supply and (2) antenna. No matter how
you
> slice it, you can't make a dual radio except if it completely separate.
> Separate but occupying the same box would be an interesting argument
> though.
> However it would mean you had two independant transmitters and two
> independant receivers in one box.
>
> 73
>
> David N1EA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Flanders" <jeflanders at comcast.net>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
>
>
> To be "completely legal", as you intend, you probably need two separate
> radios (at least, in the USA). Modding the M710 as Dick suggests allows
> its
> legal use on the ham bands by hams, but it would no longer be legal for
> marine freqs (mods would kill the type acceptance approval). I think
you
> can't do it with one radio unless some mfr actually markets a legal
> dual-purpose radio.
>
> Jerry W4UK
>
>
>
>
> ----
> Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:43:03 -0700
> From: Gary Fiber <gfiber at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050611133545.02086b10 at mail.comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> David,
>
> I know this is way off topic about Icom equipment. What rule for Pleasure
> vessels you could operate amateur using your Part 80 Type Accepted Marine
> SSB. It seems to me when you were for hire or over a certain length then
> two separate stations were required. I am hard pressed for the rule
myself,
> am looking but not finding it either way actually but for years at Icom
> thats what we discussed at many tech support meetings since we did not
want
> to give out incorrect advice. SOLAS was involved with the 2 separate
> station requirement and I suspect now GMDSS is also involves still would
> like to read the rune so I know too.
> Last I knew the marine transceivers VHF< HF Radar all needed a GROL. Those
> with Telegraphy capabilities like the Icom M700TY had to be serviced by a
> holder of a Radiotelegraph license.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary K8IZ
>
> At 01:27 PM 6/11/2005, you wrote:
> >Sorry, Doug. Good try, but the regulations are regulations! If the
station
> >is licensed, it is subject to the very same regulations.
> >
> >I've had people say that it doesn't qualify - because it is a pleasure
> >craft! Can you believe that? Next we will be having separate categories
> >for fishing boats, tankers, bulkers, container ships - when will the list
> >end. It doesn't: stations on marine vessels - both voluntary equipped
and
> >those equipped by law - are subject to type approval of part 80. Small
> >vessels are exempt from licensing on vhf, but all hf equipped stations
are
> >subject to the FCC rules and regulations - and those of ITU - including
> >requirement of a GROL or higher license for maintainance.
> >
> >Of course the telling line is that the USCG has abandoned voluntary
> >stations - those are the ones on pleasure craft and the FCC now longer
> >(since it moved out of the ports) does radio inspections - except when it
> >wants to. The FCC has bowed out of the radio field - in marine - but
> >retains the authority. A bit strange - but this is Washington, DC.
> >
> >73
> >
> >David N1EA
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604" <faunt at panix.com>
> >To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:33 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> >
> >
> >
> >I could be wrong but, I believe this is true only if the marine HF is
> >REQUIRED for SOLAS. If the marine HF is not required, as is the case
> >for most yachts, then a shared radio is acceptable, I've been told.
> >
> >Take a look at http://hfradio.com. and get in touch with Don, who
> >sells radios set up for just this. He's also a very active amateur.
> >
> >I'm not on the inside of this, but have looked at it a bit.
> >
> >73, doug
> >
> > From: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
> > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:19:32 -0400
> >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Your correct - except here's the bad news - FCC regulations require
the
> > "amateur radio" and the "marine radio" to be two separate
installations -
> > which can share the (1) power supply and (2) antenna. No matter how
you
> > slice it, you can't make a dual radio except if it completely
separate.
> > Separate but occupying the same box would be an interesting argument
> >though.
> > However it would mean you had two independant transmitters and two
> > independant receivers in one box.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > David N1EA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Flanders" <jeflanders at comcast.net>
> > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
> >
> >
> > To be "completely legal", as you intend, you probably need two
separate
> > radios (at least, in the USA). Modding the M710 as Dick suggests
allows
> >its
> > legal use on the ham bands by hams, but it would no longer be legal
for
> > marine freqs (mods would kill the type acceptance approval). I think
you
> > can't do it with one radio unless some mfr actually markets a legal
> > dual-purpose radio.
> >
> > Jerry W4UK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----
> >Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> >Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> >Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> >
> >
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> >Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> >Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> >Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>
> Gary Fiber K8IZ
> GROL PG-19-6691
> Washington State Resident
>
>
>
>
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