[ICOM] Pro 2 vs. 746 Pro

[Jeff Frank]

Dave - Maybe I didn't look closely enough at the scope I saw. Didn't know it 
was so detailed that you can actually tell how wide a guy is. I know for six 
meters it can be helpful but I'm only on HF (up until now anyway). I've got 
a FT-1000 and am bored with it after 12 years.  Everybody says the FT-1000 
is a great rig but I always thought it was noisy. Been on the air since 1960 
and I've had many rigs in many locations. In reality, the rig I enjoy 
listening to the most for ssb is my trusty old TS820 because of it's low 
noise level (of course it's single conversion rx).
Jeff -KX2P


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e at comcast.net>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] Pro 2 vs. 746 Pro


> You'll see!!
> I've had years of operating regular rigs...from boatanchors (when they 
> were
> new!!) then, a TS520, 830,850, Yaesu's Icom's etc etc. I even had the 
> scope
> thing in the form of a SB620 hooked to my old Heath stuff...and a SM220
> hooked to my Kenwood stuff.  They were not the same thing as the Pro's
> scope.  The old heath and kenwood are just a pretty picture of moving
> blips...that don't mean much.
> On the Icom, for example...you are sitting on 6 meters...mostly dead band.
> You can see the static on the scope. All of a sudden, about an inch away
> from the middle there is a peak...you can put a marker on that spot, and
> tune so the marker comes to the center...there is your tuner-upper (or 
> CQer)
> right on your freq.
> With a regular rig, you'd never have found that guy!!
> In contest situations, you can use the scope to search for clear spots to 
> go
> and claim the frequency for CQing.
> In addition, you can also use the scope to see how wide someone
> is...although I could honestly care less!!
> The Pro also has a ton of other features...some of which I still have not
> played with!!  I won't go into them 'cuz I don't know which of them the 
> 746
> also has!
> By the way... are you stepping up from another rig??
> Keep in mind, as soon as the Pro III is in stores, there will be plenty of
> 'as-new' Pro II's on the used market!!
> ...Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Frank" <jafrank at nyc.rr.com>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Pro 2 vs. 746 Pro
>
>
>> Thanks Dave - What you say makes sense. Just not sure about the scope.
> I've
>> seen it and have a hard time accepting it's going to be useful to me for
> hf
>> work. One guy told me it's good if you're doing something else and are
>> waiting for a signal to appear on a closed band (like 15 at night). I
> guess
>> it would help in a frantic contest situation to know where the activity 
>> is
>> if you're hunting for a better band at the time. Otherwise it looked to 
>> me
>> like somebody took a can a green paint and threw it against a wall.
>> Jeff - KX2P
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e at comcast.net>
>> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Pro 2 vs. 746 Pro
>>
>>
>> > Jeff... I have a 756Pro. I don't have the 746, but I think the answer 
>> > is
> a
>> > no brainer.
>> > The Pro2 is a better radio.
>> > Even if the performance were the same....Once you start using the
>> > 'fish-finder', you will not want to be without it!
>> > I passed on the ProII....not much differance. But, I may be tempted by
> the
>> > ProIII.
>> > Sad thing though...for essentially the same rig..the price will be near
>> > double what I paid for my Pro a few years ago!
>> > ...Dave
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Jeff Frank" <jafrank at nyc.rr.com>
>> > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:59 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ICOM] Pro 2 vs. 746 Pro
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Gus - Thanks for the lead to the Sherwood web-site. Haven't seen that
> one
>> >> yet. But from what I've read, performance isn't always exactly
> correlated
>> >> with "numbers" and some argue that tests for esesentially analogue
> radios
>> >> don't always apply well for more dsp designs. I'm looking more for
> actual
>> > on
>> >> the air experiences with the Pro2 vs. 746Pro. But thanks.
>> >> Jeff - KX2P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Augie Hansen" <augie.hansen at comcast.net>
>> >> To: "Icom Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:08 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Pro 2 vs. 746 Pro
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On 10/6/04 7:31 AM, "Jeff Frank" <jafrank at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm trying to decide between buying the Pro 2 or the 746 Pro. Read
>> >> >> just
>> >> >> about
>> >> >> everything I could find on the internet about it. Besides the
>> > difference
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> extra features and price, some technical types have been saying the
>> >> >> Pro
>> > 2
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> a more "bullet-proof" front end against very strong signals than
> does
>> > the
>> >> >> 746
>> >> >> Pro. I like working 40 meters (ssb and cw) at night, as well as and
>> > some
>> >> >> contest activity, so that could be an important factor for me. Does
>> >> >> anyone
>> >> >> have any experience with both those radios under very strong signal
>> >> >> conditions?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Jeff,
>> >> >
>> >> > Given your intended use you want a radio that has good dynamic range
>> >> > characteristics. Check out Rob Sherwood's comparison chart on his 
>> >> > web
>> >> > page:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.sherweng.com/presentation.html
>> >> >
>> >> > The close-in (2KHz) is particularly critical to CW contest 
>> >> > operators.
> I
>> >> > have
>> >> > an Elecraft K2 and an old, but still very capable Drake R4C with the
>> >> > Sherwood mods. Both have exceptional dynamic range characteristics.
>> >> >
>> >> > The two Icom radios you are looking at have virtually the same DR
>> >> > numbers --
>> >> > good, but not great. A 2KHz number of 80 or higher is preferred. So
>> >> > your
>> >> > choice will probably be based more on cost vs. features (dual watch,
>> >> > etc.).
>> >> >
>> >> > 73, Gus Hansen
>> >> > KB0YH at arrl.net
>> >> >
>> >> >
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