[ICOM] proll review from e-ham [he dont know how to use it]

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Hey Watt--

I'm old-65--but not that old!!  ;-))

Hope all US Icomers are having a great Turkey Day!

Andy  K5VM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N5NF Watt" <WattGee at sbcglobal.net>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] proll review from e-ham [he dont know how to use it]


> Yaaa Did you ever try to start a model T in the winter time in Wisconsin? 
> If
> not you have'nt lived yet. Watt n5nf
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "w3jo" <w3jo at msn.com>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] proll review from e-ham [he dont know how to use it]
>
>
>>      I want to voice my opinion and it is the Icom Proll is by far the
> best
>> radio I have ever owned in my 54 years as an active ham. Not trying to
> start
>> an out of control situation, just putting my opinion here.
>>
>>                                                     73, Joe...W3JO ex
> W3QKV
>>
>>
>>
>> > And the best cars were made when you had to hand crank them. No noisy
>> > starter motors! ;-)
>> >
>> > Andy K5VM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >    Hi I have an IC756 proII for 2 years now.
>> > > I  started off with the 756 and skipped the pro1.
>> > > I had the idea that all  the bugs would be out by now. Unfortenately
>> Icom
>> > > produced a radio which is  of bad quality considering the expensive
>> price
>> > > tag I
>> > > paid for it.
>> > > It  was advertised as the best of the best.
>> > > Any way if I listen 15 minutes  to the audio my ears start to get
> tired
>> > > because of the DSP sound.
>> > > The  DSP is bad disigned since it produces a sort of high frequency
>> noise
>> > > of
>> > > about 10Khz or so.
>> > > If I use the notch filter and adjust it manual, I  get rid of the
> noise.
>> > > To get rid of the bad audio, Icom introduced 2  bandpass curves. A
> soft
>> > > and a
>> > > sharp filter.
>> > > The soft filter sounds  better, but makes the filter narrower and I
>> loose
>> > > signal.
>> > > When compared  with my TS850, the 756proII has a lot to learn.
>> > > Sensitivity: I really  need to have the preamp no 2 switched on and
> that
>> > > makes the IP3 of the  radio bad. Again, the TS850 wins here easy.
>> > > Any body can make a radio  with a high IP3 if they put an attenuator
>> > > infront
>> > > of the radio.
>> > > IP3  should be measured with all preamps on.
>> > >
>> > > I have been loyal to ICOM  for many years but I feel that I have been
>> > > tricked
>> > > by them.
>> > >
>> > > Would I  buy on other Icom ?
>> > > No, I would suggest they solve this problem  first.
>> > >
>> > > The least you could expect from a transceiver is decent  audio where
> you
>> > > could listen to me.
>> > >
>> > > This case is not on its  own.
>> > > Hans PA1HR told me he had the same problem and sold its  756proII and
> he
>> > > bought a second hand IC775.
>> > > Why don't they make any  radios any more like that.
>> > >
>> > > Lets get a way from these digital  filters.
>> > > The best radios are made between 1990 and 2000.
>> > >
>> > > Ron  VK4KDD/VK6KDD
>> > >
>> > > PS check out this site and  compare:
>> > > http://dk9vz.com/rx.htm
>> > >
>> > > Any solutions please email  to
>> > > rmeiring at bigpond.net.au
>> > >
>> > > ----
>> > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
>> > > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
>> > > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
>> > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
>> > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
>> Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
>> Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>
> ----
> Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>