[ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!

Mon May 17 10:05:27 EDT 2004

At the risk of being off-topic, my local bicycle shop has a big sign in its window that says Financing Available!  Fortunately, the bike I'm looking at sells for the price of a Pro II.  Gess I'll stick with my 706II for a while.

Tom WB4J

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   1. Re: FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM! (BobK8IA at aol.com)
   2. Re: FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM! (Jan C. Robbins)
   3. Re: Dayton (KA9EES)
   4. Re: FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM! (AA6DX)
   5. Re: FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM! (Tom Norris)
   6. Re: FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM! (Ron Freeman)
   7. Re: FT-9000 - Hello ICOM! (Icom 765)
   8. Re: FT-9000 - Hello ICOM! (George,  W5YR)
   9. Re: FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM! (K9RT at aol.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:43:41 EDT
From: BobK8IA at aol.com
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In a message dated 5/15/2004 12:18:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
mglassman at cinci.rr.com writes:

> soon we
> will be buying our rigs like cars...  24 , 36 , 48 or 60 month financing....
> wow!!! 73  paul w8jn
> 

I've seen this in the custom motorcycle arena for several yrs now, as some 
come in with prices $60K-$100K now....and not everyone in that game is well 
heeled enough to get it on a one shot payment. 84 month and up financing is 
everywhere for those creations. Hobbies are hobbies. ;-)

73, Bob K8IA
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:56:40 -0500
From: "Jan C. Robbins" <swanman at cfu.net>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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Hobbies are hobbies, all right, and some of our fraternity don't seem to 
notice that there is almost no correlation (often, indeed, there is a 
negative correlation) between the amount of DX worked and the amount of 
money spent to do it.  vy 73 to all!  Hope no one strained a bach 
hauling boatanchors home from Dayton. Jan n0JR

BobK8IA at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 5/15/2004 12:18:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
> mglassman at cinci.rr.com writes:
> 
> 
>> soon we
>> will be buying our rigs like cars...  24 , 36 , 48 or 60 month 
>> financing....
>> wow!!! 73  paul w8jn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've seen this in the custom motorcycle arena for several yrs now, as 
> some come in with prices $60K-$100K now....and not everyone in that game 
> is well heeled enough to get it on a one shot payment. 84 month and up 
> financing is everywhere for those creations. Hobbies are hobbies. ;-)
> 
> 
> 73, Bob K8IA
> 
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:32:15 -0500
From: "KA9EES" <KA9EES at insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] Dayton
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
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You were on yer cell phone in the middle of a space when I came by.

73,
Ed KA9EES

Oh, you did have to chase after a piece of paper. :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "paul" <mglassman at cinci.rr.com>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] Dayton

> jim, 4 years in a row with rain..  starting to dampen spirits!  lots of
> empty spaces in the outside flea market. very few people walking the mkt
> this a.m. cold and rainy...  very poor attendance from both sellers and
> buyers. regards  paul w8jn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Vohland" <n9vo at hotmail.com>
> To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:53 AM
> Subject: [ICOM] Dayton
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Well haven't seen any reports from Dayton yet. Only saw 1 vendor that
had
> > any 706 MK II g"s. (AES) So I had to grab one. Decent prices. Personally
> > thought the flea market was down a bit from last year. Plenty of Drake
and
> > Heathkit equip. Most of the Icom equipement they were wanting almost new
> > prices for. Most were still left at the end of the day and looks wet for
> > today.
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 14:32:58 -0700
From: "AA6DX" <aa6dx at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <012e01c43ac4$3407e470$7362ce3f at main>
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Whether it be Ham, Autos, Guns, Stamps, Antiques, whatever... sure is fun!
I -- about 12 years ago -- by happenstance went to a golf equipment store
with a world-wide famous ham .... he was purchasing a new set of clubs.  I'm
no golfer -- at all -- and expected, like ... what, about $500 bux for a
premium set?  What would I know, even though my father was a locally famous
greenskeeper (never played a game of golf in his life!)    Hmmmmmm ...
Titanium, Graphite, Custom, Angle, etc......   Drivers, $300 ea.  -- Woods,
$200 ea. --- Putter, $125 -- Set of Irons, $800  --- Bag, $250 ---now we get
to the CART ..  well, you get the idea.  How much better score did the
fellow get after hitting that little white pill and chasing it around, using
the super duper stuff, or a set he could have picked up at the church bazaar
for 35 smackerooos....  My point is, don't make fun of what I spend on my
ICOM radios, or any other of the ilk.
Towers, Amps, Antennas, Radios, Accessories... like what I said, ain't it
fun!   And, we CAN provide a public service.  Not sure how you would do that
with a multi-thousand dollar set of golf clubs!  (or 55 Chevy, rare Lincoln
penny, fishing gear, or .. heaven forbid .. a BOAT!)   Not knocking at all,
just pointing out ... you who do not see the value in a $13K radio, don't
buy one!  I would, if I could afford.  Wife wants a 57 Chevy though.  =|;?}
(kidding .. had one, went to T Town for Tuck/Roll, in 1963)  The ability of
the operator is paramount in working the DX ... Jan has it right .. `tis not
the dollars spent on the radio.   My "guess" is that --- given a savvy
op --- 98% of the DX worked could be worked with an IC-735, VS the
IC-whatever.   Been there, kinda done that.  Howsoever, I'll take the newer
rig, thank you!  Did not/do not like a lot of rigs because of their
display --- my 706MKIIG is "OK",  but I keep my 736 because it is so easy to
read the fq without putting my reading glasses on my nose.  AND .. guess
what .. I work just as many stations as I did with my 746, etc....Just
adding to the noise...Wanted to go to Dayton, XYL said OK, sorry to hear not
as good as B4.    BUT my contractor was supposed to start tearing the house
apart... did not happen.   Getting a remodel of your home done is quite like
herding cats.   73, Mark AA6DX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan C. Robbins" <swanman at cfu.net>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!

> Hobbies are hobbies, all right, and some of our fraternity don't seem to
> notice that there is almost no correlation (often, indeed, there is a
> negative correlation) between the amount of DX worked and the amount of
> money spent to do it.  vy 73 to all!  Hope no one strained a bach
> hauling boatanchors home from Dayton. Jan n0JR

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:59:57 -0500
From: Tom Norris <r390a at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <p0610051cbccc416517cc@[10.0.1.2]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

How true, Jan

I can make as many contacts on my 756Pro as I can with my 706 or with some
of my homebrew stuff that was basically free from junkbox parts. I don't
have to spend 13 grand. A IC-7800 would be nice though. Dunno about the
Yaesu, I've become an Icom brand loyalist in my old age. hehe

That FTDX at Dayton was housed in a ham proof plexiglas box.
It *looked* like a working radio, but who knows.

But for the price of either the 7800 or the new 9000, I could get
a couple of new commercial spec radios with ALE that would be nice
for use with SHARES. (think the Motorola Micom II with ALE is
around $5700 for the ruggedized model, a bit less for the non ruggedized
version. Prices are 5 years old though. The new Micoms are DSP based
and have a darned good RX.  A slightly used Harris 5000 series can be
had for much less including ATU. No tuning knob on either, just a keypad :-( )

I'll stick with my Icoms, and other junk, since they work.

>Hobbies are hobbies, all right, and some of our fraternity don't 
>seem to notice that there is almost no correlation (often, indeed, 
>there is a negative correlation) between the amount of DX worked and 
>the amount of money spent to do it.  vy 73 to all!  Hope no one 
>strained a bach hauling boatanchors home from Dayton. Jan n0JR
>

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 16:35:24 -0700
From: "Ron Freeman" <k5mm at arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <01af01c43ad5$4c3c45c0$6501a8c0 at Office>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

The IC7800 was introduced in a Ham proof plexiglass box at Dayton two years
ago.  Probably the same box used by Yaesu this year.

Ron K5MM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Norris" <r390a at bellsouth.net>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!

> How true, Jan
>
> I can make as many contacts on my 756Pro as I can with my 706 or with some
> of my homebrew stuff that was basically free from junkbox parts. I don't
> have to spend 13 grand. A IC-7800 would be nice though. Dunno about the
> Yaesu, I've become an Icom brand loyalist in my old age. hehe
>
> That FTDX at Dayton was housed in a ham proof plexiglas box.
> It *looked* like a working radio, but who knows.
>
> But for the price of either the 7800 or the new 9000, I could get
> a couple of new commercial spec radios with ALE that would be nice
> for use with SHARES. (think the Motorola Micom II with ALE is
> around $5700 for the ruggedized model, a bit less for the non ruggedized
> version. Prices are 5 years old though. The new Micoms are DSP based
> and have a darned good RX.  A slightly used Harris 5000 series can be
> had for much less including ATU. No tuning knob on either, just a keypad
:-( )
>
> I'll stick with my Icoms, and other junk, since they work.
>
> >Hobbies are hobbies, all right, and some of our fraternity don't
> >seem to notice that there is almost no correlation (often, indeed,
> >there is a negative correlation) between the amount of DX worked and
> >the amount of money spent to do it.  vy 73 to all!  Hope no one
> >strained a bach hauling boatanchors home from Dayton. Jan n0JR
> >
> ----
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> Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
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>

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:14:19 -0400
From: "Icom 765" <icom765 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!
To: icom at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <BAY99-F16JSFsxf4yp80001260e at hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Yep ... it was smart ... didn't Icom do a similar thing with the 7800 vs. 
the Orion.  Kinda dangled the carrot out there of what might be coming just 
about the time the Orion was to go GA.  Dollar for Dollar I think I'll keep 
my 765 a LONG time.

73, Mike

>From: "paul" <mglassman at cinci.rr.com>
>Reply-To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
>Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:13:45 -0400
>
>by the way.....  it was a working model on display... and i agree with andy
>on one point..  it may give some folks an opportunity to hold up purchasing
>a 7800 until the 9000 is released..  this was a very strategic move on the
>part of yaesu's marketing dept. very smart!!! think about it....  soon we
>will be buying our rigs like cars...  24 , 36 , 48 or 60 month 
>financing....
>wow!!! 73  paul w8jn
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "paul" <mglassman at cinci.rr.com>
>To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!
>
>
> > just got back  from dayton. i am an icom fanatic. the 7800 is awesome..
> > however the 9000 dwarfs the 7800. it comes in a 200 and 400 watt 
>version.
>2
> > meters are analog...  world map is tft and the freq readout is giant
> > digital. and amazing rig . $13,500  73  paul w8jn
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Merrill" <jmerrill1 at adelphia.net>
> > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!
> >
> >
> > Is this one going to cost 13K, too?
> >
> > John N1JM
> > On May 15, 2004, at 12:21 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote:
> >
> > >  At 09:02 AM 5/15/2004, you wrote:
> > >
> > > It's big, got a lot of knobs .. and a map!
> > >
> > > Heh. I think they had to make it big to hold all the knobs!
> > > Goodness. It will be interesting to read the ARRL tests if they can
> > > get both of them on the bench side-by-side.
> > >
> > >  73, Dick
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dick Flanagan K7VC NV SM
> > >  E-mail: k7vc at arrl.org----
> > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> > > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> >
> > ----
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> > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> >
> > ----
> > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>
>----
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:36:19 -0500
From: "George,  W5YR" <w5yr at att.net>
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <066e01c43ae6$3b77e9e0$0402a8c0 at PS>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="Windows-1252"

I kinda agree, Mike. My 765 still sits on the operating desk along with
three others and will likely never leave.

Interesting that I paid more for the 765 in 1990 than I did for my PRO2!
And the PRO2 will run rings around the 765 in every area except QSK.

73, George W5YR
Fairview, TX
w5yr at att.net
http://www.w5yr.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Icom 765" <icom765 at hotmail.com>
To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!

> Yep ... it was smart ... didn't Icom do a similar thing with the 7800 vs.
> the Orion.  Kinda dangled the carrot out there of what might be coming
just
> about the time the Orion was to go GA.  Dollar for Dollar I think I'll
keep
> my 765 a LONG time.
>
> 73, Mike
>
>
> >From: "paul" <mglassman at cinci.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
> >Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:13:45 -0400
> >
> >by the way.....  it was a working model on display... and i agree with
andy
> >on one point..  it may give some folks an opportunity to hold up
purchasing
> >a 7800 until the 9000 is released..  this was a very strategic move on
the
> >part of yaesu's marketing dept. very smart!!! think about it....  soon we
> >will be buying our rigs like cars...  24 , 36 , 48 or 60 month
> >financing....
> >wow!!! 73  paul w8jn
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "paul" <mglassman at cinci.rr.com>
> >To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:06 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!
> >
> >
> > > just got back  from dayton. i am an icom fanatic. the 7800 is
awesome..
> > > however the 9000 dwarfs the 7800. it comes in a 200 and 400 watt
> >version.
> >2
> > > meters are analog...  world map is tft and the freq readout is giant
> > > digital. and amazing rig . $13,500  73  paul w8jn
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Merrill" <jmerrill1 at adelphia.net>
> > > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 - Hello ICOM!
> > >
> > >
> > > Is this one going to cost 13K, too?
> > >
> > > John N1JM
> > > On May 15, 2004, at 12:21 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote:
> > >
> > > >  At 09:02 AM 5/15/2004, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's big, got a lot of knobs .. and a map!
> > > >
> > > > Heh. I think they had to make it big to hold all the knobs!
> > > > Goodness. It will be interesting to read the ARRL tests if they can
> > > > get both of them on the bench side-by-side.
> > > >
> > > >  73, Dick
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dick Flanagan K7VC NV SM
> > > >  E-mail: k7vc at arrl.org----
> > > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > > > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> > > > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> > > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> > > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> >
> >----
> >Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> >Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.316 MHz
> >Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Events.
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> ----
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:01:45 EDT
From: K9RT at aol.com
Subject: Re: [ICOM] FT-9000 -  Hello ICOM!
To: icom at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <113.32c611e4.2dd8c039 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

The Yaesu rep at the booth in Dayton said $11,500 for the 200 w version, 
$13,500 for the 400 w version.
It is uncertain when it will be released, but the assumption was  "sometime  
in 2005".

Dick K9RT

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